SCOTUS to the People…FUCK YOU

No matter what your opinion of gay marriage (I’m opposed) all Americans MUST have equal protections under the Constitution.

Having said that, the people of California voted, I say again, VOTED that they opposed gay marriage, giving voice to their beliefs.  When the gay lobby filed suit to overturn the vote the NSDWP Apparatchiks that control Sacramento refused to represent the will of the people, as is their lawful duty is required of them to do.  So the group that put the Prop 8 on the ballot picked up the sword and shield to do the work that the Constitutionally elected officials refused to do under the law.

Well, the SCOTUS just said FUCK YOUR RIGHTS AND BELIEFS.  Jefferson was right when he said:

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

The government no longer fears the people nor does it any longer respect it’s rights and views.  Things are going to get very ugly.

Update:  David Boies is saying that they are going to get gay marriage imposed on all of America…Good luck with that in the Bible Belt states…The bitter gun clinging ones.

Update II:  S&W beat earning estimates by two on sales that were over double from the same period last year.

This is not a people hording guns because of a possible ban…this is a country preparing for war.

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angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

The next “Big Thing” for the homosexual groups will be trying to force churches, especially the Catholic Church into performing gay marriages. I have no doubt they will try and accuse the Church of some phony civil rights charge. The would love to see a bishop or a cardinal perp walked into a federal court. What they fail to understand… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #:

Never underestimate the fanaticism of a true Fascist. Instead of Jews this time it’ll be Christians and Conservatives they’ll try to drag off to the showers, and no, that’s not hyperbole.

I’m not much of a Christian and I’m sort of a constitutional conservative. I won’t go to the showers without a fight!
:em07:

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Speaking legally here is how they will attack the churches Angry – don’t want to marry same sex couples?

No Tax Exempt status for you.

Watch the churches roll over en-mass.

No pun intended.

Just watch.

I’d imagine that if the politicos and judges responsible for this business had to bury some loved ones or colleagues this all might slow some.

Hypothetically.

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

No Tax Exempt status for you.
Watch the churches roll over en-mass.

If they tried to force this, they will see violence that will make what the RIF’s do seem mild in comparison, and a lot more competently done as well.

No suicide bombings of course since that is a sin.

LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge
LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge

If gays want the right to be robbed of half their stuff, be saddled with someone else’s college debt, and lose custody of their kids the moment their partner decides they’re ‘not haaaaapy’, they can have it.

But I agree, Prop 8 is legal. See the 10th Amendment.

JonB
JonB

The left (a.k.a. traitors) are going for broke in this next few years. They have to. This is their chance to claim final victory over those who dare to adhere to morals and the truth. They know very well the backlash against them would be severe if they were to fail. Unfortunately that is not in the cards. God has… Read more »

Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut
Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut

Having said that, the people of California voted, I say again, VOTED that they opposed gay marriage, giving voice to their beliefs. Serious question. If the people of California voted (I say again, VOTED) to ban gays from driving or owning property, would you object? What if they VOTED to deprive gay people of police protection? I’m absolutely serious. What… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

If they tried to force this, they will see violence that will make what the RIF’s do seem mild in comparison, and a lot more competently done as well. Then I earnestly hope they continue with their plans to do exactly that. No I don’t want to see American churches shuttered, and places of worship perverted. But I sure as… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Muzzy – Imperial Ignorant Slut says: Having said that, the people of California voted, I say again, VOTED that they opposed gay marriage, giving voice to their beliefs. Serious question. If the people of California voted (I say again, VOTED) to ban gays from driving or owning property, would you object? What if they VOTED to deprive gay people of… Read more »

BamaJack
BamaJack

BLAH BLAH BLAH….. Here we go again with the badass internet tough-guy routine. The fact is, nobody is going to do SHIT. Everytime something doesn’t go our way, I read about how “you’re all preparing for war” , or just “waiting for the first shot”. None of you even have the balls to do anything, and if you did, you… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

@ #13 – Sorry, Jaybear, but from where I sit, the police in this country have long since lost the mandate of heaven. I fear interacting with law enforcement far more than I’m afraid of Ice-Dog and Ray-Ray. Stop and think about that. All things being equal. I’d rather have to interact with a criminal thug, than have to deal… Read more »

Leftism brought slavery, secession and sedition years ago. Now it brings wealth redistribution, corruption, and perversion . Amongst other calamities.

There is always an event that kicks off a revolt. It will happen here as well. But timing is everything.

LC SecondMouse
LC SecondMouse

The way I see it, the progressives have managed to destroy marriage for most of the nation’s African-American community, so maybe this will improve the numbers just a tiny bit. I do believe that ‘We the People’ have an interest in this decision, insofar as there was once common knowledge that a traditional marriage was seen as beneficial to society… Read more »

Emperor Misha I
Emperor Misha I

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says: makes me think that the morons are running the show now not the intelligent ideaological scholars that used to post all the time…… Well Jay, I like to at least pretend that I’m still running the show around here, although my lack of creativity lately surely might lead a reasonable person to start… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

“When God desires to destroy a thing, he entrusts its destruction to the thing itself. Every bad institution of this world ends by suicide.” – Victor Hugo Now to address a sore point that has bugged me for a while, for those of you that are advocating killing people in their homes and shooting cops and all that other bullshit… Read more »

Emperor Misha I
Emperor Misha I

LC SecondMouse says: Yet we make these changes without full consideration of where we might find ourselves later, having loosened the bonds that have supported our cultural priorities. If the court should rule today that a marriage between any two consenting adults is legal, what happens when the number increases to three? Seven? Forty-six? Family members? Farm animals? Children? It’s… Read more »

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

So the homosexual lobby won the day – fine. But don’t tell me this whole ‘equal rights’ crap is some sort of heroic argument for truth justice and the American way, because it’s based on rank hypocrisy from the very get go. You can dress up and couch this argument in all the pretty sounding words you wish “equality’ ‘fairness’… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

The sheepdogs are also stocking up on grub and drinks to wash it down with. The only business booming more than weapons and munitions is emergency preparedness gear and shelf-stable food.

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

Short version: We wanted to A) make sure that we had a ready supply of future babies to carry on our nation and B) we wanted to make sure that those babies grew up in a stable environment and became future productive citizens. And on a lighter note – and TOTALLY off topic – Don’t blame me for a decrease… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

angrywebmaster @ #:

I won’t go to the showers without a fight!

Aww, you’re gonna make Glenn Beck cry. He wants us to go to the showers with a smile.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC George, Apocryphal Prophet @ #:

See the 10th Amendment.

Oh, wait. You’re serious. In that case, let us laugh even harder.
– The Federal Government

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondant @ #:

“Don’t blame me for a decrease in new citizens.”

Don’t blame me, either. It’s not *my* fault that I’m homely and that women have “standards.”

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

On a more serious note: when did marriage become all that important to the homosexual community? It wasn’t that long ago that they were using terms like “breeder” and demanding that straights should stay the hell out of their more libertine lifestyle, thankyouverymuch.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

I don’t think most self respecting gay people do give a shit.

This is a wedge issue and it’s being thumped to to draw attention away from other more pressing matters. Media would much rather cover this than… well… dead ambassadors, hundreds of dead Mexicans, and the IRS being used as a weapon to assault free minded folks…

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

Just lemme know when I can marry my Bible and guns. LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondant @ #: LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #: I’m 36 and have *sigh* three stepkids, and a two going on to three year old that calls me Pops. No, we’re not married, the kids respect me more than they do… Read more »

sigh…this shit is still happening here in Oz too. I couldn’t give a flying fuck either way, but what pisses me off is the wasted time the reps WE pay take up while debating the issue. Do or don’t, but for fucks sake just get on with it and get back to running our country (if you can call it… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

JonB says: God has turned his back on America, and its citizens will reap what they have sown (via action or inaction). Actually, it’s the other way around. In the 60’s, we as a nation essentially told God, “Screw you. We’re gonna do what WE want to do.” We took God out of schools and society, and made abortion legal.… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

S&W beat earning estimates by two on sales that were over double from the same period last year.

This is not a people hording guns because of a possible ban…this is a country preparing for war.

Those who think not can go get the popcorn and sodas.

LC hilljohnny
LC hilljohnny

oh let’s keep harping on rights that do not exist for anyone. I had to get a license to get married. it’s a privilege not a right. or shall we push for equal rights for the blind to have a drivers license. i’m just glad I don’t have to renew my marriage license every two years. disclaimers A. I don’t… Read more »

Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut
Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut

jaybear wrote: come on man, that is not a serious question….it’s just silly. I was convinced that the majority got it wrong in the last election. I believe that Constitutional rights belong to Americans and the American people, not cis-gendered people or LGBT people or whatever sub-category you on the left want to compartmentalize everyone into. We are Americans….period…..all Americans… Read more »

LC_Salgak
LC_Salgak

There IS, however, a bright side to this.

Consider the sheer entertainment value of two “screaming queens” in a knock-down, drag-out (LITERALLY!!) divorce battle. . . :em05:

LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge
LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge

Why should banks be forced to lend to gay couples at the same rate as straights? Shouldn’t they have the right to examine the statistics and consider that maybe one group, having a higher divorce rate, represents a risk that ought to be covered?

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

As a practical matter, get ready for *a lot* of laws to be rewritten. For example, if a child is born to a married couple, the child is deemed, as a matter of law, to be the offspring of the father. Male homosexual couple – both now on the hook for child support. Female homosexual couple – neither are. The… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

One thing I will side with muslims on and that is neither of us approves of the homosexual lifestyle. I just don´t agree with how they (muslims)solve the problem. (execution)

That said, how can any gay person support the democrats, in light of the democrats support of all things Islam???

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Emperor Misha I @ #: Sheesh. I don’t have a problem judging everybody else I meet based on who they are, I don’t give a shit about what job they have, what religion they have, what skin color they have, what size shoes they wear, so why in the name of Cthulhu would I automatically call somebody The Enemy™ just… Read more »

Emperor Misha I
Emperor Misha I

LC Roguetek says: He’s still going to kick in your door, shoot your dog, and bust out your teeth because the alternative is to lose his job, and go back to being one of the powerless proles. He will, without blinking an eye, herd you into a fucking rail car. We know this, because it’s happened. Over and over again,… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

that may be so, Misha. But we both know there will -never- be any accountability enforced on those who enforce the law. Ain’t gonna happen, no how. Who’s gonna enforce -that- law? And ‘good cops’, or even ‘so-so’ cops are becoming a vanishing breed, buried under a tidal wave of entitled goons. The house is dirty. Don’t try to convince… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

The point of my statement isn’t ‘how much my life sucks/sucked/may suck in the future’ But of course, you knew that. As usual, you’ll always grab the cheap Ad Hom, and bypass the actual debate. the -point- of my statement is that the various tentacles of Leviathan, and the tentacle known as ‘law enforcement’ in particular, treat people -very differently-… Read more »

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

LC Roguetek:

And the great part? the poor people wont fight back. They -cant-. They don’t have the tools (money, and influence).

Not my idea of tools for fighting. If I’m in trouble, I’d rather it be for something I actually did. As Capt. Picard said:

If we’re to be damned, let’s be damned for what we actually are.

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

LC Xystus @ #:

Yes, the tools needed to fight effectively in court are influence, and money. I never said this was a good thing, only that it was a true thing.

We can hate it all we want ( I certainly do) but it won’t change the fact that that’s just the way things are.

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator
LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Oh, I forgot. 3. The people of The United States of America will, at some point, reject the over-reach of our political ‘Masters’. The police will be used as a blunt instrument to beat the proles back into line. 4. The proles know this, which is why you have such a strong anti-police sentiment these days. 5. Said proles are… Read more »

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

LC Roguetek:

Yes, the tools needed to fight effectively in court are influence, and money.

I wasn’t referring to court battles.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Roguetek @ #: 2. Due to a complete lack of consequences for bad behavior, Police officers who -should- be fired, arrested, tried, and jailed… are not. They’re left in place to continue to taint the culture of law enforcement. The best example of that? The famed “Exclusionary Rule”. Violation of an accused’s Constitutional rights simply prevents the use of… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Also… DA’s who file stupid cases… like this one. http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Texas-teen-charged-with-making-terroristic-threat-after-online-joke-212931111.html TL, DR version – Kid makes dumb comment about shooting up a school ,and eating his victims hearts, followed by ‘lol, j/k’ Canadian woman gets panties in knot, googles the boy down, and calls the cops. He’s looking at 8 years. Can someone explain to me, in small words, how… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

LC Roguetek @ #: Can someone explain to me, in small words, how this managed to get to this point without someone involved saying ‘this is fucking retarded, we need to stop’? Because we let it happen. You want to stop this? It’s to late now to go through the system. For this case, a large group of people need… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Roguetek @ #: Can someone explain to me, in small words, how this managed to get to this point without someone involved saying ‘this is fucking retarded, we need to stop’? Money, power, and hubris. Money – there’s a good buck in the outrage market, especially on the Left side, but the pundits on the Right probably aren’t pinching… Read more »

Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut
Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut

jaybear: but you have no problem with an all encompassing federal government deciding issues like this? against the majority will of the people? If not majority rule then what? a monarchy? I believe that everybody should be allowed to do exactly as they please in all aspects of life provided that they don’t infringe on anybody else’s rights in the… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Muzzy – Imperial Ignorant Slut says: I believe that everybody should be allowed to do exactly as they please in all aspects of life provided that they don’t infringe on anybody else’s rights in the process. All drugs should be legal. Prostitution should be legal. Businesses should be allowed to treat with one another in any way they deem mutually… Read more »

Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut
Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut

Jaybear wrote: Great, tell that to the all intrusive government that you have in the majority of European countries and what we are in the process of establishing here. Consider them told. Don’t worry, they listen to me 🙂 there is a flip side to that…..if we, aka the majority, cannot tell them what they can do or accept then… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Muzzy – Imperial Ignorant Slut says: Unless you mean to argue that no racist, anti-semetic, or otherwise prejudiced dictator could possibly win a majority of any national vote, you should, I think, concur that allowing the majority to decide what minorities can and cannot do is potentially a recipe for disaster. we seem to have a lot of common ground… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

what would you replace majority rule with?

Well, there is this Emperor I know that may be available.
:em05:
:em01:

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

angrywebmaster says:

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:
what would you replace majority rule with?
Well, there is this Emperor I know that may be available.

angrywebmaster recently posted..Has Sarah Palin had it with the GOP?

I’ll design the campaign banners and signs…..

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

I’ll design the campaign banners and signs…..

And so begins the “Draft Misha!” movement :em01:

Emperor Misha I
Emperor Misha I

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says: thanks Boss, was hoping that I would get your attention with that rant. You bet, Jay. Not just because it was a righteous one, but also because it cuts close to home because, G-d knows, I have found myself pushed to the very extremes of hyperbole and beyond by my anger at what… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

Emperor Misha I @ #:

It’d be fun though. Poor oppo research goons will die from exhaustion with all of the material they’ll have to work with.

And the research wouldn’t mean much since you wouldn’t try to walk away from it.

“Yep, I said that and I meant it. Next question?” :em07:

Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut
Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut

Jaybear wrote: we seem to have a lot of common ground here, but again I beg the question….. what would you replace majority rule with? For the vast bulk of things? Absolutely nothing. Majority rule is, generally speaking, the sensible way to go. The massive exception, however, is when we’re talking about civil rights. The majority has no place whatsoever… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Muzzy – Imperial Ignorant Slut says: The massive exception, however, is when we’re talking about civil rights. The majority has no place whatsoever deciding that. In fact, I think that to talk about who should decide what rights groups X, Y, and Z are allowed to have is to think about the issue in the wrong way. No group, not… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

LAS VEGAS (CN) – Henderson police arrested a family for refusing to let officers use their homes as lookouts for a domestic violence investigation of their neighbors, the family claims in court. Thems some nice cops there. “On the morning of July 10th, 2011, officers from the Henderson Police Department responded to a domestic violence call at a neighbor’s residence,”… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

because it’s pertinent over here, as well…

This..

http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2013/07/cradle-and-grave-of-liberty-part-deux.html

This is why you’re the fucking bad guys. Read the comments, especially.