Hey, Look Over There!

As we witness otherwise intelligent people utterly ignoring the fact that the NSA has been proven to take a dump on the 4th Amendment (treason, anybody?) and focus instead on the peccadilloes of Edward Snowden because, hey, he’s kind of a douchebag, isn’t he?

I don’t fucking care if he’s a transgendered polar bear pole dancing in Hong Kong, what I care about is the facts that he revealed, facts that have since been confirmed. What to do about him is another matter altogether.

But I have to laugh, bitterly, when I hear Stacy McCain utter something as inane as this:

During an online discussion Monday, the man who leaked hundreds of pages of classified documents about the National Security Agency‘s surveillance program accused the U.S. government of “nakedly, aggressively criminal acts” and said he fled to Hong Kong because American authorities would prevent him from getting a fair trial.
Edward Snowden, who came forward June 9 to identify him as the source of the NSA leaks, also denounced President Obama for preventing investigations of “systemic violations of law,” and suggested the U.S. government might try “to cover this up by jailing or murdering me.” …
In his online Q-and-A hosted by the British Guardian newspaper, Snowden said U.S. officials are lying about government surveillance programs. ”Seeing someone in the position of James Clapper — the Director of National Intelligence — baldly lying to the public without repercussion is the evidence of a subverted democracy,” Snowden said. “The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.”

Right: Don’t trust the president. Don’t trust Gen. Clapper.

Don’t trust America’s “subverted democracy.”

Let’s trust “Wolfking Awesomefox” instead.

No. Don’t trust them. You should know. They have been lying about every single thing they’ve ever talked about since the Lying King usurped power, so why the everloving fuck should anything, anything they say carry any weight whatsoever with anybody who has more than two synapses to rub together? Give me one good reason, Stacy, please.

At this point in our nation’s history, it’s fairly safe to assume that everything that oozes out of a government scuzzfuck’s mouth is a lie. You’ll only be wrong 0.00001% of the time.

But let’s trust Lying Fuck Gen. Clap, why don’t we? It’s just about as pleasant as the VD he was named after. “Trust the president?” Are you fucking KIDDING ME??? Because, hey, the guy calling him a liar is a geek and speaks geek speak, which is what geeks do. You ever met a geek, Stacy?

Not that it matters if Snowden is a fucking deluded douchefucker or not, what matters is what was revealed, not who revealed it.

But if you’d rather believe a spokeswhore of an utterly dishonored misadministration with more counts of actual treason on their rap sheet than anybody in history over a geek who likes to come up with fancy nicks for himself, then go right the fuck ahead.

Thatisall.

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watchyerlane
watchyerlane

FOIST!!!! That has been my point from the start. THe information revealed is larger than the individual revealing it. When a government goes rogue like ours has, no one in its employ is under any obligation to honor any Omerta made. In fact, EVERY one of those trough sucking swine has the obligation to US…the ones who REALLY sign their… Read more »

The Irish Dragon
The Irish Dragon

Snowden is also a fucking traitor. He’s no different from Manning. I defy anyone here to say I trust the government or worse, the POS in the Oval Office, but I’m getting really fucking tired of people lionizing this piece of shit who ran to the fucking CHINESE with information that he gave his word to keep secret. There are… Read more »

Mark12A
Mark12A

Combine this little cluster-fuck with the full-blown attack on patriotic Americans by the IRS…one wonders who the NSA or their puppet masters believe who the real “terrorists” are. I call “BULLSHIT” on the government using this program to fight Islamofascist terrorism. This is to identify members of the American resistance and ensure the tyrants know who they connect with.

watchyerlane
watchyerlane

I am calm. I am not lionizing this guy but why do we feel we need to obey laws this government refuses to? You want Snowden to obey laws of a government who itself refuses to observe those same laws? This administration has essentially wiped its ass with the Constitution but yet folks reserve their anger for the guy who… Read more »

I don’t think many of us here are saying this guy is some sort of hero. But we do NOTtrust this government either. When you look at all the scandals in their totality you must come to the conclusion that tyranny now reigns in the USA and can only assume that this data mining is not for our benefit. Tell… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Pick a target.
Plan.
Prepare.
Surveillance. .
Practice.
Practice More.
Act.

They are in a war with us already.
Pay’em back.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Irish – just… no. You opine for a nation that’s dead. The rule of law is done in this country. There is no going back now. America is dead. It’s gone. Nothing is going to bring it back to life – the meat is hopelessly rotted, infested with maggots. It’s time to burn the corpse and build something else from… Read more »

The Irish Dragon
The Irish Dragon

Have Americans been put in camps yet? They were in the ’40s. Do you have to have a particular stamp to do business? That was Wilson. We survived Wilson, we survived twelve fucking years of FDR, we survived LBJ, we survived Carter. I’m sure the Republic was declared dead many times then, as well. The Clintons got their hands on… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

I’ve said this before, but it seems to bear repeating… It is good and important that the American people know what is being done – in many cases ‘to them’ – without their consent, by their own government. It is good and important to know how this matter further demonstrates the specific and in-detail-deliberately illegal SOP of this administration, (now… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

“Put aside your emotions, step back, get some perspective.” Let’s talk about perspective… The leftists in power on both sides of the snake make FDR look like a piker. My first vote was cast against Johnson – I’ve seen plenty, and will be my own judge when it comes to “perspective.” Don’t assume that you have a monopoly on dealing… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

HempRopeAndStreetlight @ # 10: Perfectly said.

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

@Irish Dragon – “Swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign -and domestic-.” Note that little bit there on the end, ‘and domestic’. And, let’s be brutally honest. Snowden didn’t reveal a goddamn thing we didn’t already suspect. He -confirmed- it. And, unlike Manning, he didn’t do it cause his feewings were hurt,… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC & IB RightWingRocker
LC & IB RightWingRocker

“The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.”

Douchebag or not, this is an undeniable truth.

RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek
LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician @ #: Sure – and doing what’s right doesn’t always work out well for you – hasn’t always for me… Character is knowing that and doing what’s right anyway. It is unreasonable to think that you’re going to break laws – particularly these kinds of laws – and then expect to get a ‘pass’… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

LC MuscleDaddy says: …..Or we could put this aside & get on to the bigger problem. And I don’t know how long it will be, nor who it will be that speaks the exact words we need to hear that will start the party. Nor, for that matter, how we will hear it. As pissed as so many of us… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

There’s safety and/or a good buck in parroting the party line. Why question the very establishment that provides you with an easy life? It’s much the same as another McCain said – there is nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. Or, as the Computer said in Paranoia: You are in error. No one is screaming. Thank you for your… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

watchyerlane @ #:

the ones who REALLY sign their paychecks

Then the Federal Reserve is the ultimate boss, since they are the ones generating most of the government’s money. Tax receipts don’t even begin to cover it.

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

The Irish Dragon says: Snowden is also a fucking traitor. He’s no different from Manning. Sorry, but you’re wrong. Manning stole nearly a million documents, and released them willy nilly for no other reason than he was pissed off at the Army for not showing him the respect he felt he deserved. He didn’t care that he compromised sources, assets,… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC & IB RightWingRocker @ #: “The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.” Douchebag or not, this is an undeniable truth. Unfortunately, in the eyes of the Supreme Court, you consent by the mere act of being born here (or becoming naturalized), and that consent can only be revoked through the rather lengthy and… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

LC Roguetek says: And, let’s be brutally honest. Snowden didn’t reveal a goddamn thing we didn’t already suspect. He -confirmed- it. And, unlike Manning, he didn’t do it cause his feewings were hurt, as Manning admits to, but because he believed that what the NSA was doing was -wrong-. I’d also note, he’s not released anything that’s put american or… Read more »

LC Fei Long
LC Fei Long

Whooooops, I impersonate a video game Bruce Lee clone character on the Internet. Looks like I don’t have any credibility, guys!

Terrapod
Terrapod

Lived under socialist rule up to age 18 – check Seen Argentina go belly up economically 4 times in my lifetime – check Worked 7 years for extended visits and land, air and water travel in the peoples paradise of the PRC to places no round eye had reached before – check Been shaken down by third world corrupt officials… Read more »

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

Hemp: Follow the thought process from all of these four guys: http://www.dethguild.com/follow-the-tought-process-here/ Now if Dethguild would discern the difference between “its” & “it’s”… Fa: There’s safety and/or a good buck in parroting the party line. Why question the very establishment that provides you with an easy life? I suspect that doesn’t apply to most of us here. Unfortunately, in the… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Xystus @ #: “Consent” =/= citizenship. As a rhetorical point, maybe not; under the law of the land, it does. The government is not bound to individuals in any way. Individuals are bound to the government. I suspect that doesn’t apply to most of us here. True enough. Like as not, most lack both the connections necessary to profit… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Emperor Misha I @ #: Illegitimate government is NOT government, no matter how much force it has to put behind its claim to legitimacy. Sure, they are powerful enough to FORCE you or at least make your life very unpleasant if you resist, but that does NOT make their authority in any way legitimate. Of course, therein lies the rub….… Read more »

bruce
bruce

we can trust president bongo because he would never use the nsa,irs,epa, or osha to punish his political “enemies.this fucking traitor needs rope and a light post with some assembly.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2013/06/evidence-for-ugly-proposition.html Evidence For An Ugly Proposition: I’m a bit pressed this morning, so I’ll make this quick and blunt: The federal government: – Has decided to ignore the Constitution, – Is in the process of suppressing dissent by force, – And can no longer be stopped by peaceful means. If you’re new to these ideas, you may rest assured, Gentle… Read more »

bruce
bruce

snownden saw what happened to other whistleblowers so he went to the press.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

http://www.dailypundit.com/?p=73079 Those who kneejerk that Ed Snowden is a traitor for exposing the cancerous state over-reach currently expanding at a mind-boggling pace are traitors themselves to the motivating ideals and spiritual foundations of the United States Constitution. Moreover, they’re suicidal idiots, because whether they understand it or not, they are hoping that Leviathan devours them last. The correct remedy is… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

Snowdens a HERO. Period.And if history deems otherwise, we ALL lose

LC Sir M - Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E.
LC Sir M - Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E.

They will charge him with treason and sedition. The Obama administration’s solution for this whistleblower, is to execute him, as quickly as possible.

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

LC Sir M – Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E. says: They will charge him with treason and sedition. The Obama administration’s solution for this whistleblower, is to execute him, as quickly as possible. LC Sir M – Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E. Greenwald: Obama administration known for targeting whistleblowers Glenn Greenwald, columnist for The Guardian, discusses Edward Snowden’s decision to be a whistleblower and… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

I hope they have as much luck with Snowden as they have had in bringing to jail the Benghazi killers and the fast and furious truths.
Perhaps those are the files the Obe calls treason.