Was it Even “Body Armor” in the First Place?

In addition to what LC single stack has already mentioned in a most compelling way in this thread (that the AR-15 of the Aurora Beast was chambered for 22LR instead of .223), we now also learn that the “body armor” that he was allegedly wearing might not have been body armor at all.

Both items obviously serve to answer the question as to where the beast got “all of that money” from as A) 22LR is cheap enough that you almost get it thrown at you when you go ammo shopping and B) there’s quite the price diff when it comes to “tactical vests” vs. “full body armor.”

And then there’s the whole issue that the LameStream Midiots are trying to puff up out of thin air, namely that “body armor on murderers means that carrying for self-defense is pointless so the NRA can all shut up now, neener”, the kind of incandescent idiocy that only a mediot journaljizzt can come up with. Andy at Ace’s stomps wonderfully on that bullshit, so we urge you to go read it for yourselves.

All of the points he makes are spot on, but there’s one missing, one that His Imperial Majesty realizes has been missing everybloodywhere, and that is that body armor, even the real kind, isn’t an Impervious Force Field of Awesome as some would love for you to think.

Yes, it most certainly is capable of turning a penetrating, killing shot into a non-lethal one, the key here being the word “penetrating.”

What it doesn’t do, outside of Hollyweird movies which is where journaljizzmers get all of their knowledge about weapons and armor from, is make that giant heap of lovely kinetic energy that your body just intercepted zip through a rift in the space-time continuum to an alternate universe where it can dissipate without consequence to you.

You’re still going to feel every single joule of that impact, trust us on that one. Depending on the projectile involved, that can be quite the punch to your meat sack and, even though your body armor may save you from actually dying, that kick in the chest is still going to get your attention in unpleasant ways. At a minimum, it’s going to knock you straight out of your OODA loop for a bit while your neurological “WTF?” response travels from the point of impact to your brain group housing.

Which is rather important from a law-abiding CHL holder’s point of view, as he or she most likely isn’t carrying a single shot 18th century relic. He or she now, apart from having drawn the murderer’s attention away from unarmed innocents, has a nice little window of opportunity through which a nice, trouble-ending shot to the turnip can be fired. Or more than one. Nothing says “problem solved” more definitively than a mess of bloody gray matter mixed with bone splinters where the goblin’s head once was.

Remember, children: “Two to center mass, one to the noggin.” If the target is unarmored, the first two will likely take care of business. If the target is armored, the first two will disrupt the target for long enough that the third shot will settle the issue at hand.

But don’t let that stop you from unloading the rest of the magazine, just to be on the safe side.

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FrankOK
FrankOK

Whe the two bandits held up to Bank of America on the left coast before cashing in a few years ago, one of my questions was “why did the dumbass cops go to a gunstore and grab ARs”? As stated by His Royal Highness, every bit of a projo’s energy is necessarily expended in its “braking” by body armor. The… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

I’ve mentioned that in other forums where some gun grabbing liberal dirtbag says “Well he had on a bullet proof vest! He would still be able to shoot more people!” Umm no dimbulb. Although it hasn’t happened to me, (Knock on Obama’s head wood), it’s like getting hit with a hammer. It may not go through, but you are going… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

You’re still going to feel every single joule of that impact, trust us on that one. Depending on the projectile involved, that can be quite the punch to your meat sack and, even though your body armor may save you from actually dying, that kick in the chest is still going to get your attention in unpleasant ways. At a… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

Both items obviously serve to answer the question as to where the beast got “all of that money” from

It appears that he got a 26 THOUSAND dollar grant from the National Institute of Health. It was to pay his tuition and a stipend.

I bet they do some better vetting in the future.

Link here.

IgnatiusHood
IgnatiusHood

Misha: That explains the 100rd magazine and the jam. The 22lr I have used in the past looks just like an AR and is a riot to shoot. Pain in the ass to reload and it jams, and jams, and jams. Now the .223 AR I have used is not as *fun* to shoot, you only get 30rds and they… Read more »

dasbow
dasbow

LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. @ #:

I bet they don’t. It is the gubment, after all.

Qoheleth
Qoheleth

“It appears that he got a 26 THOUSAND dollar grant from the National Institute of Health. It was to pay his tuition and a stipend.” Hoddam. ATF makes you buy your guns before you take them off the grid and carry them back to Mexico under the radar. NIH gives you a grant so Uncle Sugar can buy your guns… Read more »

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper

Does his wardrobe and choice of ammo really matter? As far as media and their ‘reporting’ go, definitely. As far as Bozo the psycho goes, dress him up in a clown suit to compliment his stylish hair, then… take his ass out back, make him dig a hole, and put a bullet in his head. Then fill the hole in… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

I always taught this catchy phrase: “Two to the chest, one to the head, even the Jolly Green Giant falls dead”.

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

Does his wardrobe and choice of ammo really matter?

In a word – Yes it does- there is “body armor” and there is, miltary grade body armor – I carried the second in both Iraq and the ‘ghan — which if I have my facts straight here you cannot obtain the military grad stuff commerically.

LC MosinFiend
LC MosinFiend

FrankOK says: Whe the two bandits held up to Bank of America on the left coast before cashing in a few years ago, one of my questions was “why did the dumbass cops go to a gunstore and grab ARs”? As stated by His Royal Highness, every bit of a projo’s energy is necessarily expended in its “braking” by body… Read more »

LC 0311 Sir Crunchie I.M.H., K.o.E.
LC 0311 Sir Crunchie I.M.H., K.o.E.

FrankOK says: The 5.56/.223 pieces of shit the fuzz grabbed from the gun store, as high as these two were, probably served better to piss them off than get their attention. Those rifles were actually never used in that firefight as the cop who grabbed them got back too late. But, the second perp was brought down by SWAT who… Read more »

rickn8or
rickn8or

always taught this catchy phrase: “Two to the chest, one to the head, even the Jolly Green Giant falls dead”. I always heard it as “Two to the chest, one to the head, do it again if the bastard ain’t dead.” But yeah, all the familiar people are coming out of the same holes, spouting the same stuff. For example… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

LC 0311 Sir Crunchie I.M.H., K.o.E. @ #: Is that the “standard” 5.56 ball or the 5.56 SS109? As we know what happens on certain shooting ranges with the SS109…… Everyday I get e-mails from companies offering “mil-spec” armor. Carriers and plates. I’ve seen video and photo’s of the helmets after taking a 9MM, kinda keeps your head brain in… Read more »

Boryon
Boryon

LC LOBO says: Or are we just at that point in America where a man cannot be a man, he has to be a metrosexual. I fully blame shit like this on A. The shooter, and B. The liberal “teachers” who spewed that being a man is a bad thing, along with how evil Amerikkka really is. Fucking commies. Some… Read more »

Kristophr, LC
Kristophr, LC

Where did this no armor and .22lr bullshit come from?

Here is the stuff he was wearing … a Kevlar helmit, and a rifle-grade trauma plate and holder.

Here is the police press conference audio … they specifically identified it as an AR-15, and that he was shooting .223 ammo.

Please don’t repeat internet bullshit without providing actual proof.

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper

That’s not necessarily a genuine PASGT brain bucket.

Draven32
Draven32

I remember in Basic the demonstration of how bulletproof a PASGT is. One of the drill SGT’s show one repeatedly with an M-16. I also remember how it flew about ten feet with each hit. The drill sgts stressed that it WILL stop bullets, but it will ring your head lie a bell every hit, and you’ll be lucky if… Read more »

Kristophr, LC
Kristophr, LC

draven: It’s enough to stop a pistol round.

Gunsniper: I wouldn’t bet my life that he got rooked with an airsoft replica by some gunshow reptile.

Draven32
Draven32

Kristopher, LC says:

draven: It’s enough to stop a pistol round.
Gunsniper: I wouldn’t bet my life that he got rooked with an airsoft replica by some gunshow reptile.

It will stop a rifle round, just won’t be comfortable doin it

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

Local “news” station, NBC if you can wrap yer head around it, has found out about the “body armor”.
Then again, NBC ???? :em03:

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

Lobo, those are local guys, not network. So, they may still have some pride in their work and may want to actually inform their viewers. As for the “body armor”, wow, he spent a whopping $100 for the armor. Kristopher, I think you owe some apologies. If what he was wearing as “body armor” is what is showing on the… Read more »

rickn8or
rickn8or

Besides, I have seen cops make mistakes, not know what they were talking about, and outright lie their asses off. I think this might be a case of the latter.

You don’t think they’re trying to build a case that cops should be “the only ones” allowed to wear body armor in public do you?

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

rickn8or @ #:

You don’t think they’re trying to build a case that cops should be “the only ones” allowed to wear body armor in public do you?

I think that’s already the case in a few states, like Massachusetts.