Yep, LTC West, that About Sums it Up, Sir

Thanks to LC Gunsniper.

I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?

At this point one might think that LTC West’s position is the same as our initial response “Hell Yeah, way to go, cocksuckers deserved it!” and nothing more. Not so:

“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

“Without a teleprompter.” You have to love a guy who can insert a devastating snipe into any discussion on any subject whatsoever, BWHAHAHAHAHA!

It all sums up to “was it wrong? Yes. Should everybody get their knickers in a wad as if this little incident was a combination of My Lai, Malmedy, Auschwitz and the Rape of Nanking all rolled into one as some pundits have been hyperventilating? No. It was wrong, the guilty should be properly and appropriately punished and, oh by the way:

“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

I wouldn’t go quite that far, everybody is certainly entitled to their opinion whether they’ve been in The Suck or not (although the latter group does have a perspective that the former can never have), it’s just that in some quarters it has gone from disapproval to F-5 hysteria. But I get the sentiment.

Thatisall.

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LC Wil, S.C.E.
LC Wil, S.C.E.
January 13, 2012 19:56

Is it too late to get Allen West into the primaries? :em03:

SoCalOilMan, K.o.E.
SoCalOilMan, K.o.E.
January 13, 2012 20:04

LTC West is one of those on the sidelines that we look at and keep going “Why are we stuck with these retreads and RINO’s?” All the young guns in the party that would have made this a fun primary are building up their resume before a run. I just hope they are not corrupted by the system, or that… Read more »

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
January 13, 2012 21:14

SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. says: or that there still is a system 4 years from now. Exactly! I’ve heard that Rand Paul, Rubio, Ryan, West and few other promising prospects anticipate getting in the mix in 2016. Only problem is, there won’t be a mix to get into in 2016. Screw the resume-building … none of us want professional politicians anyway! That’s… Read more »

LC hilljohnny
LC hilljohnny
January 13, 2012 22:53

It all sums up to “was it wrong?

my first question would be is it true? it would be easy to dress up and make a video. if it true they should have their asses thoroughly wrung out for being stupid enough to make and post a video. if it is a fake someone needs a stomping.

Iacobus
Iacobus
January 13, 2012 22:58

A recent issue of VFW magazine had an article on the disconnect between the military and civilians. According to a Pew Research report: (74%) of the American public felt it was perfectly fair and acceptable for armed forces personnel to make all the sacrifices to defend the nation. That is, “just being part of the military,” respondents said. Translation: The… Read more »

Tallulah
Tallulah
January 13, 2012 23:34

LTC West is spot on, but rather than have our boys apologize, I would give them a medal of commendation. Piss is too good for those murdering scum. I’ve got the blues tonight, Rotties. I was thinking that we’ve already passed the Tipping Point. I had that clammy feeling when I saw how even Bush was truckling to the moslem… Read more »

LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
January 14, 2012 00:16

Tallulah @ #7:
I mostly agree with you, but would not go quite so far as to award them a medal … unless they could establish they had the foresight to chow down on ham first, so their urine was full of pork trypthophans; in which case the medal would be fully deserved! :em01:

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper
January 14, 2012 00:58

Nuke the place from orbit. It’s the only way to make sure.

Iron Meteorite about 100 yards long

Mass Driver

Tracking and targeting system locked in on the beltway

A shitload of assembly required.

LC Old Dog
LC Old Dog
January 14, 2012 04:32

I will stick by my comment on a previous thread! Let the PSG handle this with references to the LT for UCMJ punishment! In this and previous threads there has been much discussion of Morality! Clearly stated I and Friar Jim have different definitions of Morality! He has his, so does event branch different of all Religions on Earth. I… Read more »

LC Old Dog
LC Old Dog
January 14, 2012 04:37

LC Gunsniper @ #:
Sir,

I direct you to “Never So Few; Endgame 2”.

Nuff Said!

LC Panzermann
LC Panzermann
January 14, 2012 04:42

Tallulah @ #: Believe me when I say this as the token Kraut around here, but America is still there. It might not look like a Norman Rockwell painting, but it still is the shining city on a hill. It is still built on rocks stronger than anything else in the Western world, it is still filled with people from… Read more »

Elephant Man
Elephant Man
January 14, 2012 05:15

Thanks to the marvels of video technology, every incident that would ordinarily warrant an ass chewing by a sergeant and some form of punishment like latrine digging or something along those lines turns into a national scandal. Should those Marines be punished for having a moment of “knuckleheadetry”? I say yes. Should they be crucified as a lot of handwringing… Read more »

Elephant Man
Elephant Man
January 14, 2012 06:00

Tallulah @ #: I wouldn’t get too depressed because this country has an innate indomitable spirit that won’t be squelched easily. LC Panzermann alluded to this spirit in his comment. Americans have tendency to get complacent but when roused, have a capacity to come back with a vengeance. For example, back in the Thirties, the consensus in german and japanese… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator
January 14, 2012 09:48

Elephant Man says: I remember posting a similar comment here at The Rott back in the dark days following the election of The Chosen One when despair was rampant and a certain resident pot stirrer was laughing and crowing with glee. AND I FOUND HIS THEMESONG !!! (h/t Sir George) I am the very model of a modern left wing… Read more »

LC FORGER - Monster Hunter
LC FORGER - Monster Hunter
January 14, 2012 10:18

Misha sez – …everybody is certainly entitled to their opinion whether they’ve been in The Suck or not… Opinions are like assholes, everybody’s got one… An intelligent being would know to comment on things that they have knowledge/experience of. If you haven’t experienced The Suck, your opinion of The Suck means about as much as the Charmin I wiped my… Read more »

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper
January 14, 2012 11:39

LC Old Dog @ #:

Thanks for the link. Bookmarked. :em01:

LC Proud Infidel
LC Proud Infidel
January 14, 2012 11:43

The only punishment necessary for this would be a summarized Article 15, a nice old-school, heavy duty ass-chewing for filming and posting that, and a week of shit-burning or sandbag duty. Hell, next we’ll hear of GIs rubbing the tips of their rounds in bacon grease before they load them into their mags, or rubbing it across the ammo belt… Read more »

LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech, Imperial Photographer, K.o.E.
LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech, Imperial Photographer, K.o.E.
January 14, 2012 12:02

Every Good Scout will see that the last smokin’ coals are extinguished when they break camp.

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
January 14, 2012 13:11

Emperor Misha I says: And give them 4 years in that corrosive swamp of villainy and I’m willing to bet you that they won’t be who they are today. That was the point of the rest of my post … “professional politicians” (a.k.a. those corrupted by the good ol’ boy network of DC) are not who we want running the… Read more »

GGE
GGE
January 14, 2012 17:16

I am in full agreement with the LtCOL.
I have never been knee deep in Teh Suck, but I have been an NCO. What I said on the last thread regarding this matter still stands. What goes on patrol, stays on patrol.

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster
January 14, 2012 19:05

I just wrote up my two cents and posted it a few minutes ago. (With a link back to this fine internet publication) One of the things I discovered was that a CNN Contributor announced her support for the Marines by saying she would drop trou and “Pee on the Taliban.” Apparently she set off a firestorm among the Progressives… Read more »

Tallulah
Tallulah
January 14, 2012 22:04

LC Panzermann @ #:

Thanks, Panzermann, I needed that. More than you know.

Tallulah
Tallulah
January 14, 2012 22:06

LC Gladiator @ #:

I cannot lose an argument, so why don’t you get used to it.
I won’t concede a single point, even if there’s no truth in it.
No matter what you say to me, I’ll post back an ad-homenim.
Regardless of the things you do, you’re all BushHitler’s supermen

Gilbert and Sullivan would be proud!!!

brilliant

LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
January 14, 2012 23:50

I have not had the full suck, but enough of the taste to understand and defend those who have. I stand squarely with Old Dog, Forger and others. But I also wish to compare and contrast pissing on a dead muslim with “desecrating” him with pork products – General Pershing call your JAG. Or with my much-anticipated chance to piss… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator
January 15, 2012 13:17

Oh come on now you pisslamic goat-fuckers and your liberal progressive pansy assed sympathizers. You want to see a REAL atrocitity? Try this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsgspDyTxDc&has_verified=1

WARNING to GLORs= VERY graphic, visit at your own risk

Iacobus
Iacobus
January 15, 2012 13:53

LC Gladiator says: Oh come on now you pisslamic goat-fuckers and your liberal progressive pansy assed sympathizers. You want to see a REAL atrocitity? Try this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsgspDyTxDc&has_verified=1 WARNING to GLORs= VERY graphic, visit at your own risk Don’t stop there: Nick Berg, Eugene Armstrong, Kenneth Bigley, Thomas Tucker and Kristian Menchaca (the two U.S. soldiers)…the list goes on and on…… Read more »

bruce
bruce
January 15, 2012 14:17

Pershing would wrap them in pig skin stuff them full of bacon then drop the dead raghead off at a raghead village.today we try to pretend that muzzies are humans,they are not.my nephew was kill in afghanistan by bongo’s rule of engagement when we should kill every mullah and adult male we can.when i was a young paratrooper in viet… Read more »

LC SmokeyBehr
LC SmokeyBehr
January 15, 2012 17:32

I’ve never been in The Suck, but I know enough to say a hearty “Fuck you” to all the whiny bitches who are complaining about a few of Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children giving a Golden Shower to a couple of dead Tangos. Where was their outrage when our soldiers were getting dragged trough the streets, beheaded or hung from bridges… Read more »

Princess Natasha, Imperial Koch-monger
Princess Natasha, Imperial Koch-monger
January 15, 2012 23:16

The taliban mutants probably were a lot cleaner and smelled better after the Marines pissed on them. Hell, if I were in charge, I’d order them to take a #2 on them, but for the love of G-d, NOT to take any pictures! :em05:

LC MosinFiend
LC MosinFiend
January 16, 2012 00:14

:em02: Eh…Marines took the skulls of Japanese soldiers during WWII as war trophies and no one gave a fuck back then. This is kid’s stuff in comparison, and anyone who has their thongs in a bunch about it just needs to cowboy the fuck up.