We are pretty sure that when LC Hilljohnny said this in a comments thread:
I am waiting for someone on the left to point out that jared was the victim of the evil gun that forced him to shoot those people and therefor we need more laws restricting law abideing citizens.
…he was demonstrating the proper use of a rhetorical question as he can’t possibly have doubted that it would be coming. And boy, has it ever come. The Brady Bunchers have managed to pile on to the corpses from Tucson too now, grabbing for whatever body parts they can still rip off and wave around in the air like meaty, bloody banners. As, for instance, the terminally demented dorkweasel, Richard Cohen, of the Washington Compost:
I had a teacher in college who used to ask, Who discovered America?
Of course, back when Dickie went to college, that question belonged in the “current events” category.
He would offer some choices. They were Amerigo Vespucci, Christopher Columbus or the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria. The answer he wanted was the three ships with which eventually someone would have discovered the New World and without which everyone would have remained in Spain.
Because, as we all know, if those three ships hadn’t existed, nobody else would have bothered to ever set sail and go west in search of new land and/or sea routes. Similarly, if Isaac Newton had never been born, we still wouldn’t know about gravity.
All three answers are wrong, of course. The first European to discover America (mainland America and not some rum-soaked sand bank in the Carribean) was Leif Eriksson, some five hundred years before Cristobal Colon shat his first set of tights. And Leif’s ship wasn’t called Nina, Pinta or Santa Maria, we’re fair certain.
It is no different with the tragedy in Tucson.
You know what? He has a point. Without the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria, everybody would’ve stayed in Spain, America would have never been discovered and there would have been no Tucson.
Quick! Ban Christopher Columbus!
Hate speech and madness were part of the mix,
Try “madness” for $1,000 and you’ve almost got it.
but it was the gun and our insane gun laws that resulted in six deaths.
“Gun Law Murders Six, Film at Eleven!”
We need to get those crazy gun laws off the streets, wandering around waving their sections, clauses and sub-clauses menacingly at innocent citizens!
Until we come to grips with that, as a nation, we remain armed and dangerous.
Until Dickie gets back on his meds he’ll remain dumb and incoherent.
The American culture, the American gun culture, insists on a constitutional right to bear arms
Actually, the Constitution insists on a Constitutional right to bear arms. Hence the word “Constitutional”, Dickie. How are your “English as a Second Language” classes working out for you? Obviously not too well.
– even concealed weapons such as a Glock 19 semiautomatic handgun capable of doing immense damage.
We didn’t know that the Glock 19 comes in both a concealed and un-concealed version. Amazing what you can learn from reading a Dickie Cohen column!
A 22-year-old man, already hallucinating on the Internet, making no sense in his classes and booted from school for his strange ways, can buy such a killing device almost on the spot.
Well, he can IF he happens to live in a city where law enforcement is run by a senile old fart like Clarence Nudnik, who apparently has a policy of ignoring death threats and numerous other complaints. If Tucson had been better served by not having Old Man Moses in charge of the Sheriff’s Dept., then Loughney would’ve set off enough alarm bells on his NICS check to burst eardrums five counties away.
If he is crazy, then so are we.
Quit using the royal “we”, Dickie.
we should turn our attention to the one element in this tragedy that can be controlled: easy access to guns.
I was born and raised in a country with some of the most insanely restrictive gun laws known to mankind. Average time to acquire a gun anyway if you wanted one? Between 30 minutes and an hour. Yes, I tried and yes, it worked. So best of luck with that “restricting access” scheme of yours.
After all, enough ought to be enough. Rifles can kill (John F. Kennedy, for instance), but most homicides committed using firearms – more than 70 percent – are the work of handguns
Let’s not wake Dickie up from his nap and start explaining the prevalence of handguns vs long guns and how that might have something to do with those statistics of his.
But hey, using that “logic” of his, considering how vanishingly small a percentage of homicides are committed with howitzers, RPGs and vintage German MGs, can I have my MG42 now, please? Put it over there, right next to my 155mm howitzer.
The handgun is wonderfully effective. It’s little and it’s lethal.
So is Andrew Sullivan’s cock. And your point?
Gun statistics are nothing less than astonishing. According to the Brady Campaign, an advocacy group, “more Americans were killed with guns in the 18-year period between 1979 and 1997 (651,697) than were killed in battle in all wars since 1775 (650,858).” Even recognizing that some of those deaths were suicides or accidents, the gun is what did it. Had it not been handy, a death might have been avoided.
Operative word “might.” Oh, and you need to subtract the number of deaths that represent a would-be murderer killed by his intended victim because the latter did have a gun. You see, Dickie, without those guns your “astonishing number” would have been at least as high and quite likely more than a little bit higher. See “Virginia Tech, What if the Innocent Students Had Been Armed?”
Little in life is easy or open-and-shut. There is probably no getting rid of all guns,
So let’s restrict access to them to violent criminals? Brilliant, Dickie, just brilliant.
there is no denying their appeal,
Particularly not if you’re a little old lady facing two grown burglars in the middle of the night. G-d made man, Sam Colt made men equal.
and there is no use ignoring the Second Amendment.
Why not? You liberals have been doing just that for decades. Why stop the insanity now?
But amendments can be repealed and then reworded (long guns only?) and somehow made to conform to the 21st century.
Best of luck with that. But hey, we’ll give you points for being the first liberal we’ve ever heard suggest using the Constitutionally provided method instead of activist judges and penumbras, emanations and brain farts.
I have in the past admitted a sometime yen to have a handgun for protection – I have twice been burglarized, once while I was in the house – but my own moderate paranoia cannot make me duck the obvious.
Twice burglarized and you still consider yourself “moderately paranoid” for worrying about protection? Really now? You know, Dickie, it’s not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Six people are dead and 14 wounded in Arizona not just because a man went crazy or political rhetoric has gotten too raw, but because they were shot. It’s the gun that did it.
So absent Loughner, it would have still happened?
Damn, that’s some powerful shit they serve you at the nursing home, Dickie. Would you mind sharing?
But first, let me go lock up all of my firearms before they sneak up and shoot me.
Asshat.
Thatisall.
Now that the crooks know for sure that Dickie doesn’t have a gun, they’ll probably return for the third time.
Yep. And Mayor Bloomerpants, here in Gotham, gave a solemnly constipated press conference today, saying that the Tucson shooter could never have killed all those people if guns weren’t available to him. What the bastard sailed past is the fact that New York’s population of law-abiding citizens has ALREADY been castrated, ALREADY been stripped of our Constitutional rights. I mean,… Read more »
I had to post this, off topic. Thomas Sowell, in today’s Jewish World Review, said that when Gingrich and the Republicans put the brakes on Clintoon in the 1990s, and got blamed for shutting down the government, this is what really happened: The Republicans INCREASED THE BUDGET, but NOT by as MUCH as Clintoon wanted. So CLINTON SHUT DOWN THE… Read more »
Loony Left Agenda: 1. Tragedy happens involving someone with a gun. 2. Blame Fox. 3. Blame Talk Radio. 4. Blame the Republicans. 5. Blame Guns. In other words, blame everyone and everything except the lunatic that actually committed the crime. What next, a call to ban kitchen knives? Sharp sticks? Blunt Objects, Dangerous Sports… Hell, next my ass will be… Read more »
*sigh* They don’t waste any time, do they? Never let an incident go to waste. I wonder
what they would be gibbering about if Loughner had used a geologist’s hammer.
Its not just Guns we have to worry about. Id bet $100 that the Libs use this to rebirth the “Fairness Doctrine”
Gladiator, you’re a bit late to the party. U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in Congress, said Sunday the deadly shooting in Arizona should get the country thinking about what’s acceptable to say publicly and when people should keep their mouths shut. The shooting is cause for the country to rethink parameters on free speech, Clyburn said from his… Read more »
NR Pax says: Gladiator, you’re a bit late to the party. U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in Congress, said Sunday the deadly shooting in Arizona should get the country thinking about what’s acceptable to say publicly and when people should keep their mouths shut. The shooting is cause for the country to rethink parameters on free speech, Clyburn… Read more »
If Arizona bans guns, then illegal guns in Arizona will become every bit as rare as illegal Mexicans.
i believe Mr. Cohen may have set a new record for consecutive backflips through his asshole. oth here’s a little gun pron to get the sour taste out.
Response to LC Xealot @:
Sorry. It’s a real story. You think the man would have waited for the funerals to be over with.
for what it’s worth I left the bloke a little comment. No illusions that it’ll be actually read, but to this Kraut it simply is too obvious that gun control does not and cannot work because it targets the wrong subset of society. We effectively disarmed our people and what did we become ? A nation of victims. Dear Mr.… Read more »
Response to LC Panzermann @:
Very well said, but sadly will not penatrate a liberals mind or beliefs, too much common sense
It seems that Mark Halperin of Time magazine thinks we should keep quiet and “turn the other cheek” instead of defending ourselves against liberal moonbat onslaught. Here’s the exchange between Halperin and Joe Scarborough on MSNBC: “I just want to single out one thing. I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far. I’m worried about… Read more »
The shiteatingasswipepisspantsmodda-fuckin’ double standards are SO fuckin’ obvious it’s sickening!! Remember how quickly after the Ft. Hood shootings our exalted self-anointed royalty in DC were calling for “calming down” and not to blame any group or people for it. That crime was committed by, of course, a billygoat-blowingmuzzy of Middle Eastern descent. SO….. we were’nt to immediately blame anyone, just… Read more »
That really needed a spew alert, Boss.
Nice hat trick, btw. Insulting, offensive, and probably hate speech to boot.
*tallies a few extra points*
Bear in mind that while some of these folks are actually stupid, the campaign is really quite rational. Keep repeating something until it is accepted. Other here have provided many examples. The end goal is to impose socialism from the top down. If not by legislation then by judicial fiat failing that agitation and propaganda will put it back onto… Read more »
Response to LC Proud Infidel @:
Well said.
Little in life is easy or open-and-shut. There is probably no getting rid of all guns, Well, there might be, but the irony is that it would take lots of guns, and even more body bags to get there. I guess Dickey didn’t want to fess up to that nasty little truth. But amendments can be repealed and then reworded… Read more »
Response to LC hilljohnny, possom poker @:
There were guns in that picture?
Response to NR Pax @: Unfortunately, when the liberal/Dem machine talks about “when to keep your mouth shut” what they mean is, “when you disagree with us”. Heaven forbid that they maybe turn down their hate speech. Of course, much like Vt or any other example one cares to name, I have not heard a word along the lines of,… Read more »
Don’t forget Bob BRADY has written a bill banning such “hate speech”. Apparently he missed the reading of the constitution the other day when he asked “Why would you be against it?” He MEANT that shit. WHY WOULD YOU BE AGAINST CENSORING SPEECH?
Yeah, no. We are against it because IT AIN’T RIGHT and IT DON’T WORK moron.
Here’s hoping that I never say something so stupid the Emperor will dissect it and shred it to pieces. BECAUSE HE RULES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev6uKDfe7mw&feature=fvst
In Seventeen eighty seven I’m told…
Uhhh.. sorry that was a rickroll; here’s the real deal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TXJRZ4CFc
Here’s some good news. most Americans aren’t buying the “rhetoric = shooting” bullshit meme.
LC Panzermann says: Furthermore, gun control has taken away the average citizen’s ability to defend himself from violent attack and has over 4 decades produced a mindset that is completely dependent on government protection and support, not only for protection but also for sustainment. Lc ORWN engine builder for Rottie Racing says: Response to LC Panzermann @: Very well said,… Read more »
The shooting is cause for the country to rethink parameters on free speech, Clyburn said from his office, just blocks from the South Carolina Statehouse. Stupid jackass. Either you have free speech, or you don’t, and the Constitution is pretty clear on the matter. Maybe Clyburn should have paid more attention when, ironically, Rep. Giffords read the First Amendment in… Read more »
Heh, another Dem hypocrite opens his mouth. Forgetting what he said last October. “Ex-Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pa….”it is incumbent on all Americans to create an atmosphere of civility and respect in which political discourse can flow freely, without fear of violent confrontation.” Wasn’t nearly so civil when speaking of Fl. Gubernatorial Candidate Scott Brown(R). “That Scott down there that’s running… Read more »
U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in Congress, said Sunday the deadly shooting in Arizona should get the country thinking about what’s acceptable to say publicly and when people should keep their mouths shut. So Gibby shouldn’t have responded to Loughner’s question about the meaning of language with a derisive or dismissive comment in Spanish–when pols encounter a somewhat… Read more »
One of the people who tackled this scumbag had a CCW with him. Said he did not shoot because he was afraid of hitting someone else.
wasn’t it our founding fathers or some that followed shortly after that insisted on our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms? I do know that it wasn’t American gun culture. Hell, back when that amendment was added, most everyone had guns.
Oh, there is this tendency for the libtards to call Tea-Partiers teabaggers. Well, I say that it is better to be the teabagger than the teabagee. And the libtards have been taking the the teabag with extreme regularity.
@Mish – had to share this on Facebook. I actually giggled when I read this. And I don’t giggle. Great job, dude!
The American culture, the American gun culture, insists on a constitutional right to bear arms No…the Constitution and the Second Amendment were around before said “gun culture” existed. It acknowledges that it already exists in our G-d given right to defend our lives and property….just as it acknowledges that Government doesn’t have the right to censor free speech. The Constitution… Read more »
Response to Library Czar @:
hadnt heard about ccw involvement–as described, sounds highly responsible, fast-thinking, and heroic. more proof that those who take responsibility to carry are answering a higher calling. speakimg of, lets keep up the prayers for the vics and their families.
Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere says: That really needed a spew alert, Boss. *Bows* Thanks, Consigliere, I was beginning to wonder if anybody would notice. Tough crowd around here. Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere says: Nice hat trick, btw. Insulting, offensive, and probably hate speech to boot. *tallies a few extra points* I immediately denounce myself for this blatant display of hatist, hateful, hatespeechy… Read more »
The Jimmy Kimmel Show piled on tonight, about those badass Republicans reading the Constitution.
Kimmel snottily remarked in his show teaser, “The Republican Congress is going old-school: back to the ORIGINAL Constitution. Women, Minorities, I hope you don’t miss having the right to vote!”
Hi-fucking-larious. Yep, that’s just what those badass Republicans are up to!
VonZorch Imperial Researcher says:
The more I watch gun control efforts both in America and Europe, the more I tend to agree. State dependency is at least a facilitator if not a prerequisite for socialism.
Response to LC Panzermann @: Absolutely correct. Remember that inconvenient “consent of the governed” thing… I did gain some insight through a very sad conversation last night. My wife teaches at a private liberal arts college, One of her faculty asked me yesterday if I would at least taking that “horrible” (Molon Labe) bumper sticker off my car. If not… Read more »
Hi LC’s and Pups Looks like I had it pegged. WSJ validated my hunch that Looney Jared fits the same mold as the Virginia Tech slayer as an unemployed alienated 100% social reject. So all anti-gunners, pols, pundits, psychologists, fortune tellers, and stand up comics are out to lunch again. And we all know they aren’t reading this because this… Read more »
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