About Fucking Time. Almost, Sort of…

Dear Leader has finally figured out he can’t vote “present” on this one (from They Who Must Not Be Linked™.)

WASHINGTON – After months of debate, dithering (fixed it for ya- crunch) President Barack Obama will spell out a costly Afghanistan war expansion to a skeptical public Tuesday night, coupling an infusion of as many as 35,000 more troops with a vow that there will be no endless U.S. commitment. His first orders have already been made: at least one group of Marines who will be in place by Christmas.

Merry Christmas you bastards. (USMC= U Suckers Missed Christmas). Have to give Obama half credit on this one, at least he agreed to most of what Gen. McChrystal had requested. I would have gladly congratulated him and even praised him if he hadn’t felt the need to throw in the prerequisite caveat about “ending” the war. He just can’t bring himself to be an actual leader and say and do what’s necessary to actually win the fucking war. No, instead he has to take what could have been a resounding moment of moral strength and destroy it by throwing a bone to his leftist base. Well, close Bambi, real close. I was about to make a lot of peoples heads explode by complimenting you.

Obama has said that he prefers “not to hand off anything to the next president”

Already looking at 2012 are we?

and that his strategy will “put us on a path toward ending the war.”

Would your universe implode if you were to just once in your wretched, cursed, Presidency, use the word “victory”? Let me clue ya in on something; wars don’t “end”, they are won or lost. Your choice, pick one.

Before Obama’s call to Britain’s Gordon Brown, the prime minister announced that 500 more U.K. troops would arrive in southern Afghanistan next month — making a British total of about 10,000 in the country. And French President Nicolas Sarkozy, whose nation has more than 3,000 in Afghanistan, said French troops would stay “as long as necessary” to stabilize the country.

Do you hear that Bambi? The Fwench *minor spit* are more committed to victory than you are! Do you realize how bad that is? Do you have any fucking clue how far down you have dragged the greatest nation on the Earth when the Fwench have more balls than you do? Breaking news; Chesty Puller is digging his way out of his grave so he can kick you square in the nuts.

Obama’s war escalation includes sending 30,000 to 35,000 more American forces into Afghanistan in a graduated deployment over the next year, on top of the 71,000 already there.

Spend our grandchildren into economic serfdom, destroy the greatest health care system the world has ever known, usurp the Constitution by appointing unaccountable czars to control every facet of our lives, bow and scrape before monarchs, belittle and denigrate our nation, all have to done NOW, THERE IS NO TIME! IT’S A CRISIS! Make the effort to save western civilization and defeat the Isamofascists bent on our destruction, take your time, no rush. News flash for ya Ear Leader, wars aren’t won with graduated deployments. They are won through bold and decisive actions. You may need to find a dictionary to look up the meaning of those words when used in a context other than advancing a radical socialist agenda.

He also will deliver a deeper explanation of why he believes the U.S. must continue to fight more than eight years after the war was started following the Sept. 11 attacks by al-Qaida terrorists based in Afghanistan.

Because we have to score a decisive victory against the forces of evil?

He will emphasize that Afghan security forces need more time, more schooling and more U.S. combat backup to be up to the job on their own, (There also will be a fresh focus on training Afghan forces to take over the fight and allow the Americans to leave. – ibid)  and he will make tougher demands on the governments of Pakistan as well as Afghanistan.

Damn, had my hopes up there for a minute. Nope, instead of the decisive victory we need, the troop increase is seen as only a means to our eventual withdrawal, not our eventual victory. So instead of a rousing justification and Churchillian call to victory that a “war weary” nation needs, his speech will be yet another tepid, milquetoast promise of a gradual defeat and a chance to once again insult and belittle our allies.

On a few of the bigger questions most on the minds of increasingly restive members of Congress and the public, such as how much the additional $30 billion to $35 billion cost will balloon the already skyrocketed federal deficit, how long the U.S. commitment will continue and how it will wind down, Obama was expected to make references without offering specifics.

Because that would once again call for a decisive stand on the issue, something he is genetically incapable of. Let me answer those questions for ya Hussein. The $30-35 billion is an expenditure required to meet the federal government’s Constitutionally mandated obligation to provide for the common defense. It will not balloon the skyrocketing federal deficit because effective immediately all federal expenditures not expressly authorized by the Constitution of the United States are hereby ended. The resulting budgetary surplus will be spent on winning the Long War, and once and forever obliterating the threat of radical Islam. All surplus revenues will be immediately returned to the people of the United States in the form of a permanent tax cut to a flat 5% of income, until such time as the 16th Amendment can be repealed. The U.S. commitment will continue until victory is achieved and will “wind down” with a victory parade conducted on a road constructed with the skulls of our vanquished enemy. Hows them for some specifics?

The president’s review was anchored by 10 extensive war council meetings, starting on Sept. 13, that featured a debate between a counterinsurgency strategy focused on protecting the local population and building up the Afghanistan government or a more limited counterterrorism strategy Joe Bidens sooper secret soooper special magical Ninja strategy.

The former was referred to as “The Surge” when we actually had an administration that knew how to fight a war. The latter is only one minor step above sending the FBI in to Nuristan to arrest the Taliban.

The final product is neither, though it leans more toward counterinsurgency.

Almost there Bambi, but not quite.

The length of the process drew sharp barbs. Less than two months in, Vice President Dick Cheney accused Obama of “dithering,” beginning a drumbeat of criticism from Republicans. The White House shot back that the administration Cheney helped lead had given inordinate attention to Iraq while turning its back on Afghanistan.

You own this issue now Bambi, you can’t blame Bush forever. Quick strategy primer for you. We focused on Iraq because it was an easier theater to fight the hirabi in, and because Iraq was the key to Iran, the true center of gravity in this war. Iran was a present that was handed to you on a silver platter by seven years of the blood sweat and toil of men far superior to anything you could ever even aspire to be. A gift which you squandered when you preferred to once again vote “present” and “bear witness” to the savage repression of the aspiring democracy activists we have cultivated for so long. You “bore witness” rather than giving the Iranians the real support, material or moral, they needed to overthrow the Mullah’s. Now we are no closer to toppling the Khomenist Regime in Tehran than we were in 1979. Yep, that’s some powerful change you foisted on us you mulim fellating cocksucker.

In recent days, leading Democrats have talked of setting tough conditions on deeper U.S. involvement, or even staging outright opposition.

The Fifth Column scum resorting to type, ensuring that there will be no chance of an American victory in yet another war.

Obama spent much of Monday and Tuesday on the phone, outlining his plan — minus many specifics — for the leaders of France, Britain, Germany, Russia, China, India, Denmark, Poland and others.

Still in campaign mode. Vague platitudes, no hard policies or details. Probably for the best. Any discussion of details would show how totally clue bereft he is.

A briefing for dozens of lawmakers was planned for Tuesday afternoon, just before Obama left for New York to give his speech against a military backdrop photo-op.

*Heavy sigh*. Somethings never change. The men and institutions which adopt the warrior ethos so that others may live in peace is nothing more than so much stage dressing to the Immaculate One™.

So close. I so badly wished that I would be able to sing Teh Ones™ praises and give him a hearty pat on the back for finally doing something worthy of his Oval Office predecessors. But alas, it is not to be.

Well, at least it’s nice to know that there are still some constants in the Age of Obama.

30 comments

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    LC Old Dog says:

    cruchie, I think Chesty has already dug his way out. He’s just waiting for Patton to finish swimming back from Europe so they can team up and do it properly.

    :em04:

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    Barth Dacron says:

    Lame fucking no edit button-having website… :em95:

    Oh well.

    Crunchie- doing the Fisking Americans won’t do.

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    tweell says:

    I have explained endlessly to libs that Iraq was essential to being able to win in Afghanistan. Saddam’s fall took an enemy away, and the humble pilgrims of the Religion of Peace went to Iraq instead of Afghanistan. In Iraq, our supply lines were short and cheap. Our mechanized forces dominated the plains and systematically slaughtered muj until even they figured out that going to Iraq meant dying (and the Iraqis finally got a clue or died as well). This gave our forces in Afghanistan time to build up bases and equipment, get some locals behind us, learn the best ways to fight in that mountainous area, etc. Now it’s surge time, since all those ‘pilgrims’ are going to Afghanistan. Beat them, and Iran is going to be seriously in trouble, with unfriendlies on either side of them. Lose, and we can expect to see a nuke on our soil in the next five years.

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    Library Czar says:

    The pResident made a decision? Be still my beating heart. Prayers go out to all service members worldwide. Gd watch over them as obongo is totally clueless. Gd save our republic.

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    Tweel, excellent summary my friend. Those are all points I have been making in much wordier, less succinct and concise, spread out and disjointed venues. Bravo. :em69:

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    It isn’t like there has been any real hurry in Afghanistan up until now — it was pretty much ignored for the past seven years, another couple of months to see where we are and to come up with a plan really isn’t that big of a deal.

    Except that the iron is hot now Deej. Our efforts at “winning hearts and minds” are paying off and A-stan is ripe for a population centric COIN (Surge if you will). A-stan wasn’t a priority because as I have said before, Iraq was the battlefield the hajis were flocking too, by our own choosing. It was a better battlefield for us to fight in, one more suited to our strengths. Meanwhile A-stan was in the shaping process, laying the groundwork for a successful COIN effort if it was required. With the Muj defeat in Iraq, their new battlefield is A-stan. That’s where the haji’s are flocking to now. That’s why A-stan is so important now, where as a few years ago it was secondary.

    I am actually glad that Obama took his time to access the the issue of Afghanistan by defining the goals and coming up with a plan to achieve that goal.

    What goal Deej? The only thing he has talked about is withdrawal and ending the war. The goal should be VICTORY. And he was given the “plan to achieve that goal” by his Generals. You know, the guys he talked shit about vicariously through “leaks” from his administration.

    What exactly is “victory” as it relates to what we are doing in Afghanistan?

    The same as we defined it in Iraq, a stable government and a population united against the radicals. And victory in A-stan is just a step towards the ultimate win in the war, which is a defeated Iran. Remember, the campaigns in Iraq and A-stan are just two fronts in the same war against Radical Islam.

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    Didja forget where the “Give us more, Oh Emperor!” button is again, Crunchie?
    :em01: :em99: :em01: :em99:

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    another couple of months to see where we are and to come up with a plan really isn’t that big of a deal.

    Unless you’re a Marine in Helmand fighting and dieing while Obama decides whether or not to fight the war or to go home. Pretty big fucking deal then Deej. Everything else he does is tinged by “CRISIS!”. Why such careful deliberations over the one thing that does require quick, decisive action?

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    Waaaaaay the fook OT, but I wanted to get a “Date/Time” stamp on this for posterity’s sake. :em93:

    Climatologist Product Safety Commission warning that went unheeded by Jones, Mann, Hansen, et al.

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    Didja forget where the “Give us more, Oh Emperor!” button is again, Crunchie?

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I pulled a Misha :-). Good thing I had a bucket full of cast iron balls when I came to this site, because the way y’all bust em I needed a good supply. :em99:

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    LC hilljohnny says:

    Would your universe implode if you were to just once in your wretched, cursed, Presidency, use the word “victory”? Let me clue ya in on something; wars don’t “end”, they are won or lost. Your choice, pick one.

    does anyone remember we are not fighting Afghanistan. it’s the war against Islamic terrorist that Mr. Obama is doing his best to end (not win). his devotion to his coreligionists should not come as a shock to us. Mr. Obama is in a very delicate position trying to balance the need to maintain appearances with his dwindling base in the U.S. while not doing to much damage to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

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    LC Rurik says:

    General McChrystal asked ofr 40,000 troops as a minimum. He said he really needed 60,000 for a good chance of success. So, Bend Over is giving his chosen general less than the minimum number of troops needed. If early rumors are correct, 34,000 is only 85%. It appears that BO is trying to lose the war while making an inadequate effort so that he can divert blame to his fall-guy of a general.

    Trying to destroy the pre-revolutionary Army (and Marines) is exactly what you would expect of a Leninist. It is what Lenin and Trotsky began doing during the summer of 1917. After the October Coup they accelerated the process, forcing out, or killing most of the non-radical officers, replacing them with radicals as soon as possible.
    BO’s seeming incompetence makes sense, if you postulate a long term plan for a Civilian National Security Corps, as large and well equipped as the army, which I think has been repeatedly mentioned already.

    Is DingleBarak a Leninist? He mother was was a sympathizer, as were his Grandpa and Grandma. As was his father figure, “Uncle Frank” Davis, who was a CPUSA organizer. By his own statement, he sought out the most radical associates in his schools. It is uvery unlikely that he has never had any influence by any figure who was not a Leninist (either Party member of fellow traveler). He has never been exposed to any alternative view. Some heretics were predicting this sort of trouble from early in 2008. When the building starts to take shape according to the blueprint, it should suggest that events are not entirely happenstance.

    Since BO thinks it is adequate to give Genreal McChrystal only 85% of the minimum troops needed, I suggest that when he flies off to Oslo, for his Noballs Peace Bribe, Air Force One should be fueled-up with only 85% of the JP-4 needed to get there.

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    LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion says:

    Im not happy at all with the amount of time taken to make this “decision”. This was a NO FUCKING BRAINER….. I mean literally… you dont have to be a rocket scientist to decide to send more personnel to CONTINUE to do what they have been doing there for years. All you LE Instructor Types out there….. DynCorp, & MPRI will be hiring reaaaaaallll soon for thier training missions I bet. We been training those goofs over there for the past years… and they still need more training….

    And Tweel is 100% correct, its now or we will absolutly postively no two ways about it get nuked…… instead to the 98% chance of being nuked that we are running at on a regular basis. Im thinking the sheep will fgure it out when Baltimore has a nice mushroom cloud over it….. even though a mid west city would be better… that way the wind could blow the fallout to the east….

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    lc purple raider says:

    As was his father figure, “Uncle Frank” Davis, who was a CPUSA organizer.

    I don’t think the Majic Marxist called Frank Marshall Davis “uncle.”

    There are reports out there that Obama called him Daddy.

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    Buffer Overrun is STILL finding out how in-over-his-tukkus he really is, but can still afford to be such a gentleman as to let the enemy see his warplan in high definition.

    IF there’s one good thing ’bout our surge, it would be that there will be plenty to shoot at, what with the occupying terr’s having BEGAN their surge on bo’s inauguration day.

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    LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion says:

    Well ….. winters just about here…. and the operational tempo will be impacted by the climate specially in the mntns. Thanks Bama for doubling the Talibans re-fit and re-supply time. How many MONTHS did he jack around with this decision?

    Obviously Bama has no understanding of the concept of “overwhelming force” when it comes to warfare. Instead this a-holes going to go with a feed em into a meat grinder approach. When we are successful, it wont be because of the admins contributions to the effort, it will be despite of, and due to the professionalism of the BEST FUCKING FIGHTING FORCE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!

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    LC FreedomFighter says:

    Its all a show just like the KSM trial.

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    Sir Fresh Sign says:

    Obama, a Science Buff, Is Washington’s Mr. Spock

    PHOTOSHOP ALERT
    PHOTOSHOP ALERT…..

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    wyseguy says:

    What I’m starting to find amusing is now the liberal media is all atwitter about deficits. Where was all this fiscal responsibility when porkulus was rammed down our throats? Where is the concern about deficits in the debate over health care? Where was the talk about deficits when we were bailing out the banks and auto industry? Running up deficits in those cases seem to be perfectly acceptable. I guess it continues to fit the liberal narrative. Deficits == bad when discussing the military fighting to end those who wish to do us harm and sweeping their diseased ideology down the sewer of history’s failed belief systems. Deficits == good when talking about wealth redistribution and “social justice” as the only valid economic outcome.

    If these people had control 70 years ago, we’d all be speaking German today.
    If these people had control 50 years ago, we’d all be speaking Russian today.

    I’m no tactician, but these half measures to win wars since Korea is just plain stupid (and yes, I’m looking at GWB too). If we’re not taking the field of battle to not just win but to etch forever in the minds of our enemies, and their fellow travelers, that it was utter stupidity to ever side against us in the first place, then we’re not going into it with the right attitude and we shouldn’t commit our forces to such a cause. You don’t field “just enough to get the job done”, you field an overwhelming force and pound them relentlessly into submission. You replace their diseased methods of governance with ones based on equality and the rule of law and win their women and children to peaceful ways. You give them no quarter and show them no mercy. Then, when it is all over, you welcome home the soldiers as heroes and help nurse their wounds (physical and mental).

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    harleycowboy says:

    Already looking at 2012 are we?

    48% of the population plus another 50% can’t wait that long. RESIGN NOW!!!!!!

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    In case you hadn’t paid attention to the history of Afghanistan, ‘victory’ has always eluded those who sought it.

    Hmm,, the history flunk-out lectures history.
    Howd Deej-fully arrogant.

    We’ve paid attention to Afghan history, thakyew, and that’s how we know why the others have failed.

    So, in playing along with the lofty logic, I’ll allow:
    You’re right.
    Though, other people were fighting other people with other strategies, equipment and troops for other reasons.
    The russians wanted a satellite, we want them to stop training terrorists.

    ‘Never been done, therefor, ‘must be impossible.

    :em99: :em99: :em99: :em99: :em99: :em99: :em99:

    Dude! That’s why we sent American Troops!
    They have a long history of doing JUST THAT!

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    LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion says:

    WELL SAID CHEAP! :em04:

    So if I get this straight.. DJ sez that if Bin Laden had been KIA or captured then Iraq would have never occured? Riiiiiiiigggghhhhtt….hmmmmmm….and how did Sadam enter the Al-Q equation to begin with?

    The Answer to the Taliban lays in a post above regarding how war is waged…….the key is Pakistan…… as long as we allow them to operate cross border we will be at a deficit…. but as stated we can accomplish the mission.

    mark your history book DJ.. we will prevail. Asscrack will no longer be a country that provides, aides, and comforts assholes that have declared war on us. As far as “corrupt” that depends on your definition….. you are familiar with the concept of Baksheesh?

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    M167A1 says:

    In regards to tweell’s comment @ :

    Well said Tweell.

    Took us 12 years to begin to clean Iraq up.. Hopefully we don’t just half ass this too.

    Just because its hard, dosn’t mean you don’t have to do it.

    Just because its hard dosn’t mean skippping it won’t end up wose.

    DH

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    LC SleepTech:Resident Rac(ial)(ist?) Mutt says:

    Okay, I just have this little question to ask:

    What exactly is “victory” as it relates to what we are doing in Afghanistan? The last I looked, we aren’t actually at war with Afghanistan or any other nation for that matter.

    “Victory” is forcing your opponent to acknowledge your absolute superiority over them and to leave them with the knowing that, if they ever again rise against you, they will be annihilated.

    You are right in one aspect. We are NOT at war with A-Stan. We are at war with Pislam. There is no mild, moderate or radical Pislam, there is ONLY Pislam.

    That is what we are at war with.

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    The last blockquote @34 was blockquoted incorrectly :em03:

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    LC Robohobo says:

    DJ said:

    What exactly is “victory” as it relates to what we are doing in Afghanistan?

    Victory in ANY conflict may not be what you think it is. According to Col. Peters, it is when the other guy declares that they will not fight any longer. It is not when WE say we win, it is when THEY say we win.

    With that said, The Won tonight told the Taliban, al Qaeda and the resistant Afghan warlords when they will have won, when we will fight no more. Starting in late summer 2011, we are declaring THEIR victory and beginning to withdraw.

    That simple enough for ya?

    If I were the bad guys in Afghanistan, I would put on a slow, low level conflict that tapered off, oh, say about late spring 2011 than then ceases by the late summer of that year. Then the “enemy” (read us) can declare “victory” and leave the country to the locals. About that time the REAL genocide and ethnic cleansing will start. A civil war the likes of which has not been seen there for a long time. It may also be that Pakistan, or a The Won says, Pokeystun, will also fall to the Jihadists.

    pResident Pantywaist just showed his real and abiding cluelessness.

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    LC Rurik says:

    In regards to SoCalOilMan, LC’s comment @34 :

    I got a slightly different take form his speech reading from the TOTUS. He wants our allies to make up the difference in troop requirements, so if it goes wrong, we blame the other countries.

    But by anouncing our intent and forecast date of withdrawal, he virtually assures that no sane western leader will commit so much as a rifle platoon with reinforcing engineer section to the venture. Thus failure is still fore-ordained.
    We also note that he intenfds to send the additional 30,000 troops over gradually, drawn out over a period months, further minimizing thier usefulness by dissipating any shock through numbers effect. Even further, instead of the rumored 34,000 troops, it has been cut to 30,000 – and still falling? – well below General McChrystal’s minimum.

    Very clearly, Obttfuck is setting up his generals to fail. The troops? “They’re just a bunch of Redneck Crackers, good riddance!”

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    LC hilljohnny says:

    LC Rurik sez:

    Even further, instead of the rumored 34,000 troops, it has been cut to 30,000 – and still falling? – well below General McChrystal’s minimum.

    now that makes me wonder if the reason for the delay was to find and remove any troops that might be supporters of Mr. Obama. wouldn’t want to risk losing any more of his base.

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