Gun Them Down (UPDATED)

Gun the death panel-loving pigs down.

It’s on.

They had their warning, they didn’t listen.

Now let them drown in their own blood.

Unless, of course, you feel that living under Cuban “health” care isn’t all that bad. In which case you ought to do the world a favor and shoot yourself as well, because you’re just too fucking ignorant to live.

Oh, and if you think that’s “too radical”, here’s what you have in wait for you if you don’t bend over and embrace the PelosiCare bill that your House Traitors just passed:

Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

A quarter million dollars in fines and five years (a felony) in prison if you don’t buy the public “option”. That’s one heck of an “option” isn’t it? Don’t say you don’t have a choice. You can either do what the National Socialist Democrat Workers’ Party Fascists tell you to do or you can “choose” a quarter million dollars in fines and five years behind bars.

Here’s another choice, you Democrat fascist fuckholes: You can either lock yourselves up in a garage and suck carbon monoxide, or We The People will come find you and blow the back of your heads off courtesy of a 12 gauge double aught shot through your kissers.

Pick one.

Sic Semper Tyrannis.

Kill them all. Now.

UPDATE: Seriously, though. Now that the Cathartic Ranting is over, could somebody please tell us how we’re ever going to get the attention of our self-anointed Lords and Masters in DC, because obviously they don’t give two shits what their actual constituents think about their public “option” tyranny.

Myself, I’m thinking tar, feathers and rails.

One thing is for sure: If that abomination of a take-over of one sixth of our economy accompanied by a multi-trillion dollar deficit guaranteed to grow beyond even the most pessimistic estimates once gummint get to fucking it up as they’ve fucked up every single government program in the history of our nation is passed, our grandchildren’s great-grandchildren will be paying off the debt with no hope of ever actually getting done.

AND what was once the most advanced healthcare system in the world will become just another horror show along the lines of the NHS and every single OTHER government-controlled healthcare system.

I could tell you a thing or two about the wonders of living under one of those. Wait, I’ve done that numerous times. Obviously eye-witness accounts don’t count for much anymore.

Thatisall.

85 comments

  1. 51
    LC Rurik says:

    In regards to LC Ted’s comment @ 51:

    You are certainly correct. It will not work. But it will demarcate who stands where and what is happening. Eager promiscuity, playing coy, reluctant yielding under pressure, and screaming bloody rape! while squirming are all points along the same continuum of being fucked. But the entire context and significance changes.

  2. 52
    LC Don_M says:

    LC Rurik sez:

    Might it not be time for the Catholic clergy to lay the ban of interdict upon all Democrats? No sacraments or liturgy. And excommunication for all elected officials who supported this health (sic) bill?

    I’m afraid they’re too busy smarting from those brand-spankin’-new sets of bus treads on their backs. That’s the thanks they get for supporting the HC bill with the Stupak abortion-ban amendment attached. At little more than a day after the vote, it seems the Regressive Party’s liars couldn’t renege on that concession fast enough. Why faithful Catholics persist in voting for this pack of lowlife dirtbags is beyond me.

    Dear Bishops: When you walk in shit, it sticks to your shoes. Please try to remember that the next time you’re tempted to support anything the Regressives want.

  3. 53

    In regards to LC Alric’s comment @ 41: While these clips may have been taken from various news reports, they are far too numerous. I truly believe they are indicators of inability on the jugeared marxist to avoid slipping up in public speech.
    In regards to LC Ted’s comment @ 49: As I said over at mine in agreement, the taqiyya is embraced by the demoncraps as quickly (or more) than the mooselips.

  4. 54
    LC PrimEviL says:

    This is nothing less than a act of war against the working class.

    Tax them into poverty, levy mandates they cannot possibly meet, then criminalize to remove any remaining vestige of rights they may have retained.

    Such tyranny cannot be tolerated. It is anathema to all this Country once stood for.

    The ballot box is stuffed. The soapbox ignored, and the Jury box reduced to a sad joke.

    There is only one box left.

    Obeying the law a farce, for the Law has become a terroristic infliction.

    There is only one box left.

    Remaining in peace, a delusion, for they make war upon us.

    There is only one box left.

    Remaining loyal to them a fool’s parade. For they have none for us.

    There is only one box left.

    Retaining any respect for their humanity, position, or office; preposterous, for they have none for us.

    There is only one box left.

    Take a deep breath. Let it half out, hold it. Squeeze the trigger.

  5. 55
    LC PrimEviL says:

    Myself, I’m thinking tar, feathers and rails.

    It’s already too late for that. I’m thinking a couple dozen batteries of 24-pounder rifle-guns on the Mall, pointed at Capitol hell, er, hill.

  6. 56
    Muzzy says:

    A quarter million dollars in fines and five years (a felony) in prison if you don’t buy the public “option”. That’s one heck of an “option” isn’t it?

    I just have one quick question about this. If I choose not to purchase private health care because I don’t think I’ll need it, and then I have a massive heart attack which necessitates open heart surgery and weeks of treatment during which time I run up a bill of, say, half a million dollars, who pays for it if I’m unable to do so? If I successfully declare bankruptcy as soon as I get out of hospital, isn’t the cost absorbed by the taxpayers? Isn’t requiring people to purchase a health plan of some sort kinda like requiring people to get car insurance?

  7. 57

    Isn’t requiring people to purchase a health plan of some sort kinda like requiring people to get car insurance?

    Muzzy, you ignorant slut, to keep it simple for you: “No”. If you’re really that fucking stupid, you really should stop stealing oxygen from poor, oppressed amoebas and just kill yourself for the good of Mother Gaia.

  8. 58
    Princess Natasha, Decadent Delicious Deviant says:

    Muzzy sez:

    A quarter million dollars in fines and five years (a felony) in prison if you don’t buy the public “option”. That’s one heck of an “option” isn’t it?

    I just have one quick question about this. If I choose not to purchase private health care because I don’t think I’ll need it, and then I have a massive heart attack which necessitates open heart surgery and weeks of treatment during which time I run up a bill of, say, half a million dollars, who pays for it if I’m unable to do so? If I successfully declare bankruptcy as soon as I get out of hospital, isn’t the cost absorbed by the taxpayers? Isn’t requiring people to purchase a health plan of some sort kinda like requiring people to get car insurance?

    To threaten people with jail if they don’t buy insurance is absurd. It is a declaration of war on citizens. There are so many things wrong with government having any say in this, it is difficult to find a point at which to start…

    If you do have a massive heart attack without insurance, it should not be unloaded on taxpayers, anyway. Private charities, maybe… But this scenario (here are the left’s favorite “lifeboat ethics” arguments, again) is no reason to saddle me with this fucking bullshit. Your health, your problem, but it’s none of the tyrants’ business and none of mine. However, if anyone I know ever had health bills they couldn’t handle, and I was in a position to help, I would. Without any government intervention.

    But I will be goddamned if some skank-ass piece of shit government bureaucrat tells me to buy insurance at the point of a gun, especially while he is exempt from such a law.

  9. 59

    The lovely Princess Natasha wrote:

    Otherwise, by that token, we’ll be equating our Founding Fathers with pisslamic splodeydopes.

    Almost every single one of Odumbo’s colleagues, mentors and Whorehouse Czars would take umbrage at that statement. How DARE you besmirch the good name of splodeydopers everywhere by comparing them to those crusty old white terrorists & oppressors!

    :em01: :em99: :em01: :em99:

  10. 60
    Muzzy says:

    Muzzy, you ignorant slut, to keep it simple for you: “No”. If you’re really that fucking stupid, you really should stop stealing oxygen from poor, oppressed amoebas and just kill yourself for the good of Mother Gaia.

    B.C. you preposterous spunk gargling troglodyte, you haven’t answered my question. If you think I’m gonna be put off by mere bluster then you really should admit defeat, concede that you have failed at life, arrange for your own immolation on a pyre of the Helen Thomas scheisse magazines you had to get shipped in from Germany, and have your ashes shot into space so as not to befoul the eco-system.

    In regards to Princess Natasha, Decadent Delicious Deviant’s comment @ :

    To threaten people with jail if they don’t buy insurance is absurd. It is a declaration of war on citizens. There are so many things wrong with government having any say in this, it is difficult to find a point at which to start…

    But this is what I don’t get. Doesn’t the government threaten people with jail already if they don’t have car insurance?

    If you do have a massive heart attack without insurance, it should not be unloaded on taxpayers, anyway.

    Maybe it shouldn’t. However, the regrettable fact is that at the moment taxpayers do have to foot the bill when people who choose not to get insurance suddenly find themselves in over their heads with medical bills. The question is, will requiring people to get some form of health insurance help with that? I can’t see why it wouldn’t. As I said, the same logic works with car insurance.

  11. 61
    Princess Natasha, Decadent Delicious Deviant says:

    Muzzy sez:

    But this is what I don’t get. Doesn’t the government threaten people with jail already if they don’t have car insurance?

    They do, and I think it is sick and wrong. The government is, first and foremost, a punitive organ. Punishment should only happen after an actual violation happens, as in, someone steals or crashes my vehicle, or attacks me, or robs me. It is not a violation not to have a certain piece of paper, or not to have purchased some plan. It hurts noone. The potential (“something bad may happen”) is not the actual. Laws based on imaginary scenarios are an abomination. No “what if” or “ahead of time” should be a basis for law. If some loser bashes up my car and refuses to pay, that’s when the government can step in and punish him. Not before. All this “just in case” legislation is a violation of my individual rights, it is an intrusion on my independence as a citizen, NOT a subject. You cannot safeguard yourself from all the “what-ifs” by imposing all this absurd shit on people. Life is risky. Get used to it.

  12. 62
    Princess Natasha, Decadent Delicious Deviant says:

    BC, Imperial Torturer sez:

    Almost every single one of Odumbo’s colleagues, mentors and Whorehouse Czars would take umbrage at that statement. How DARE you besmirch the good name of splodeydopers everywhere by comparing them to those crusty old white terrorists & oppressors!

    BC, you are right. We have some sick motherfuckers usurping the power in this country. Well, let them take their socialism, their totalitarianism and their pisslam and cram it up their asses. I want none of it.

  13. 63

    Muzzy, you festering condom of lemming semen, you’re not even worth wasting Misha’s bandwidth on. The reason I was so short with my answer to you is that all of this has been already explained to you and your idiotic, Marxist nut-snuggling ilk— ad nauseum.

    YOU may wish to live under the tender ministrations of FidelCare™, but most of us on this side of the pond, who enjoy the most advanced medical system in the world, choose not to. Now, go be a good little Ho Chi Minh acolyte and put a bullet in your head. It’s For The Children™, after all.

  14. 64

    Muzzy sez:

    But this is what I don’t get. Doesn’t the government threaten people with jail already if they don’t have car insurance?

    OK, I’ll make it real simple for you, Muzzy (you ignorant slut): You don’t have to drive a car. Driving a car is a choice. Being allowed to drive a car on public roads is a privilege. You pay for that privilege through gas taxes, registration fees (the roads have to be maintained and it’s only fair that the ones using them get to be the ones paying for them), and you are also, being a participant in traffic, required to have insurance in order to cover the expenses of others if you cause an accident. Mind you, you’re not required to have full coverage, you’re only required to have liability coverage. If you kill or maim yourself, that’s your problem. But if you kill or maim some innocent third party, then that has to be covered too. By you, if you’re the guilty party.

    If all of this seem onerous, you have the option to not drive, to not own a car and to drive the bus, ride a train, call a cab, bicycle or fucking walk. You don’t have to pay all of those fees, premiums and taxes. All you have to do is to not drive and they all go away.

    Now, healthcare and government “mandate.” Under that tyrannical rule, you have to pay for insurance by virtue of being born and still breathing. You don’t have a “choice” in being born and, unless you’re an advocate for euthanasia of anti-social elements, you don’t have a choice in being alive. But merely by being alive, the government believes that it can threaten you with jail in order to get you to buy a product that you might not want.

    Also, living is not a privilege. It is a RIGHT. One of the very few true rights that exist. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness property.

    Beginning to see the difference between liability car insurance and mandatory health care insurance? The only way I can “opt out” of the latter is by killing myself. Even to a servile Brit, that ought to raise a red flag or two.

  15. 65
    Muzzy says:

    Muzzy, you festering condom of lemming semen, you’re not even worth wasting Misha’s bandwidth on.

    And you are not worthy of the jock lint under my taint, yet I persist in trying to educate you. It’s like trying to kick water uphill but I do it anyway, because I love people.

    The reason I was so short with my answer to you is that all of this has been already explained to you and your idiotic, Marxist nut-snuggling ilk— ad nauseum.

    I think the real reason you were short with your answer is because you were stunned by the preposterously righteous bitchslapping I administered with my giant cock of logic.

    *WHOOPAH!*
    smack!

    YOU may wish to live under the tender ministrations of FidelCare™, but most of us on this side of the pond, who enjoy the most advanced medical system in the world, choose not to.

    I already live under eeeevil “socialised medicine” and it treats me pretty darn well. Sorry if this is inconvenient. On the other hand, I know I’d have trouble getting health insurance in the U.S. (especially in the South, where intelligence and a low bmi are both pre-existing conditions). It makes no odds to me, but I know which system I prefer.

    Now, go be a good little Ho Chi Minh acolyte and put a bullet in your head. It’s For The Children™, after all.

    I’m sure there are easier ways to get down to your level. Howabout I take a piss on an electrical outlet and bang my head off the keyboard from the involuntary spasm and see if I still run rings around you? :p

  16. 66
    Muzzy says:

    Misha (you pompous ass :em02: ) wrote: :

    OK, I’ll make it real simple for you, Muzzy (you ignorant slut): You don’t have to drive a car. Driving a car is a choice.

    First off, thanks for the response. Secondly, yes, you can “opt out” of the liability you can cause to others on the road by simply not driving, however it’s a more complicated matter when it comes to health care.

    If you have a medical emergency, and are uninsured, they can’t turn you away. Not even if you’re flat broke. That means that other people are going to end up paying for you. Merely by being alive, and having a human body, and inhabiting a society with sympathetic humans, there is a risk that other people will have to pay for your health care.

    The only way you can get around that is to adopt a strict policy of turning away everyone at emergency rooms who don’t have insurance or don’t have enough cash to pay for the procedures up front. But the vast majority of people in our society don’t have the stomach to enforce that. That’s why requiring people to possess some form of health insurance is a good idea.

  17. 67
    Light29ID says:

    In regards to Muzzy’s comment @ :

    My ex Mother-in-Law had to have the plug pulled because she didn’t have arteries left from the

    previous five bypasses that she had on the taxpayers dime.

    Tell me why I have to pay for a women who smoked four packs of cigs a fucking day????

    Give me a good a g-tdamn reason…and helping my fellow man flies as far as a wet fart.

  18. 68
    Muzzy says:

    Tell me why I have to pay for a women who smoked four packs of cigs a fucking day????

    Give me a good a g-tdamn reason…and helping my fellow man flies as far as a wet fart.

    Dunno. Why should you pay for anything? Why should your neighbour have to pay for the socialised fire brigade to rescue your stuff if your house burns down? It’s all about give and take. Society decides where to draw the line. If you don’t like it, emigrate.

  19. 69

    Muzzy sez:

    If you have a medical emergency, and are uninsured, they can’t turn you away. Not even if you’re flat broke. That means that other people are going to end up paying for you.

    Right. And we have a system in place already that works quite well in that respect. It’s called charity. It’s called being human. It’s called giving a shit. Nobody, and I do mean nobody, gets turned away as it is. And we’ve been managing quite well with that system in place since time immemorial. It’s a perfect example of something that ain’t broke and thus doesn’t need fixing.

    And it’s dirt cheap. Catastrophic care is covered. By somebody. It always has been and it hasn’t created a multi-trillion dollar government budget item. Because people give a shit. You see somebody in need who can’t afford paying for it, you either make a payment plan or, much more commonly, just waive your fees entirely. I see it every day. I’ve been the beneficiary of it even when I could pay. The doc would just say “hey, both of your kids are sick but we’re only charging for one visit”, “hey, those drugs are expensive, but I got a handful of samples you can have” or even, one time, “don’t worry. This one’s on the house.”

    And that’s for somebody who isn’t about to go broke. Imagine the charity shown to people who are.

    You see, Muzzy (you ignorant slut), this isn’t about “fixing a problem” because there isn’t one. Nobody, contrary to what the EUroweenie idea of American Health Care is (and don’t feel too ashamed. I believed it too until I actually got here), gets left in a ditch to die because their credit rating was too poor.

    And it works. It always has. Because it’s very, very cost-efficient. Get government involved, on the other hand, and you immediately have 90% overpaid, underworked administrative chiefs and almost no Indians.

    Then, with a government mandate, all of a sudden everybody has to pay for everything. I don’t just have to pay for some poor indigent feller who needs life-saving emergency care, I now have to pay for his sex change operation, his nose job and his wife’s boob job too.

    I also get to pay for every gorram sniffle he ever gets because everything, including a common cold which would have resolved itself nicely without intervention, is “free.” I get to pay for several hundred thousand bureaucrats writing up “guidelines” for treatment that they’re nowhere near competent enough to have an opinion on. I get to pay for politicians buying votes with “free” cosmetic surgery for everyone.

    And I get to pay for every damn pre-existing condition there is, which is no different from going without car insurance (hey, your example) until your car gets totaled. Insurance is a savings plan. It’s something you pay into in case something happens in the future, whether it happens or not.

    Nationalized Hell Care is like setting fire to your house, then buying fire insurance the day after.

  20. 70
    LC Subotai Bahadur says:

    #59 Muzzy

    The penalty for driving without insurance [which since liability for an auto accident includes medical costs and therefore can easily be equivalent to or exceed your hypothetical cost for the heart attack] is a misdemeanor. Which in this country is < 1 year in jail universally by definition, and generally less than $1000 fine. The actual penalty is revocation of the ability to drive [legally driving is a state granted privilege and not a right].

    Following your template, lack of health insurance would be punished by revocation of a state granted privilege to breathe.

    Assuming that your wish is granted and the Almighty State controls health care; bankruptcy does not discharge debts owed to the government. Otherwise, the billions of dollars of student loans would never be repaid, let alone tax liabilities.

    You owe the State, or a hospital, money; they sue and try to collect. Keep in mind that as things stand now, the rare case that you posit is a drop in the bucket. Hospitals routinely have to write off vastly larger sums regularly that they expend provide services to illegal aliens. It is not like people are going to go out of their way to have a heart attack for the pleasure of screwing over the government.

    We have experience with this here. Once you discount illegal aliens, the largest group of uninsured are those 18-25 not covered by their parents’ insurance who can afford insurance but think that they are invulnerable. And fortunately, in most cases they are. Sometimes they are wrong, but not often because that age group is usually healthy and God looks after fools. As they get older and life forces more real responsibility on them they almost always grow up and amongst other things get health insurance for themselves and their new families. Incidentally, the next largest group of uninsured are those who are already eligible for one or another free health care program such as Medicaid and who are too lazy to sign up for benefits due them.

    We have a population of 307,898,287, as of 1849 hrs my local time, in this country. If you take out illegal aliens [which most Americans believe should be the way it is], those who can afford health insurance but who refuse to get it, and those who are already eligible for free care; we have about 5-7 million nationwide at most who do not have insurance, cannot afford it, and who do not have access to it.

    Take the 7 million figure. That is 2.27 % of the population AT MOST. There are other ways of fixing this, rather than enslaving 97% + of the population and spending $2 trillion at conservative estimates while destroying the best medical system in the world. Our state controlled media refuses to cover [and the Democrats refuse to allow to be discussed in Congress] the alternative Republican plan which is not based on compulsion and which covers more people for a fraction of the cost of the Socialist plan. While I have to admit that we get more accurate news about many or our domestic political matters from your papers than from our state controlled media, which will not criticize the regime; I’m pretty sure that your media has not covered that.

    Until you can demonstrate some knowledge of our history, our legal system, our government, and hopefully something resembling at least a tolerance for, if not a love of, Liberty; I’m going to agree with BC.

    LC Subotai Bahadur

  21. 71

    I’ll say it again: I wish they would just drop this shit already and get on to something more important first, such as the economy.

    I agree, Dave— like getting the government out of the way and letting the capitalists get back to making the country work.

    BTW, you did hear that the ChiComs have now bought up a large number of leases to the vast, deep-water oil fields in the Gulf of Mexico, didn’t you? U.S. oil companies (Read: US) will be buying OUR oil from the ChiComs instead of drilling for it ourselves. That’s some real Hope & Change for ya’, right there.
    :em72:

  22. 72
    Lc Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    Muzzy THE IGNORANT SLUT sez:

    But this is what I don’t get. Doesn’t the government threaten people with jail already if they don’t have car insurance?

    But this is where you are wrong, THE STATES force you to buy car insurance, different mandates from state to state, not the full weight of the Federal Government. and thats where it should be.

    You don’t buy car insurance, a small fine if you are pulled over, mandating health insurance and if you don’t purchase, AND IT’S A FEDERAL CRIME

  23. 73

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery sez:

    the revolution will not be televised

    Not with the msmidiots in charge, no.

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    Elephant Man says:

    I sense something bigger and more sinister at play here. The demoRats HAVE to know that they are cutting their own political throats by going against the will of American citizens like this….they just have to know that, so why would they continue down this road?

    I understand your concern but my instincts tell me that the donks are doing this because they think they’re untouchable.

    They’ve swallowed all the media hype and they figure that they’re safe behind the Obama “hope and change” charade.

    Their arrogance mirrors that of their predecessors in 1993 and it’s going to bite them in their collective asses….again.

  25. 75

    Elephant Man sez:

    I understand your concern but my instincts tell me that the donks are doing this because they think they’re untouchable.

    They’ve swallowed all the media hype and they figure that they’re safe behind the Obama “hope and change” charade.

    Their arrogance mirrors that of their predecessors in 1993 and it’s going to bite them in their collective asses….again.

    I do hope you’re right sir, but I just don’t see anyone stepping up to take charge ala Newt Gingrich in ’93

  26. 76

    Problem is that the rethuglicons think that they must work center left. The bulk of America is getting sick of center left. We get some honest to Bob conservatives that are well spoken, we can take the Congress and the White House. Flush grade.

  27. 77

    Elephant Man sez:

    Their arrogance mirrors that of their predecessors in 1993 and it’s going to bite them in their collective asses….again.

    Let us pray. And that we get some who’ll stay that way.

  28. 78
    Lc Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician sez:

    Isn’t there some pesky Amendment to that effect? Oh yeah, the 10th.

    Could You imagine if the feds got involved with car insurance?

    I’d have to have mandatory full coverage insurance on my 96 Ford Contour that I paid 300.00 bucks for.
    that I drive 5 minutes to work in

  29. 79
    Tallulah says:

    I would add, to those responding to Muzzy and his/her point about car insurance, that two wrongs don’t make a right.

    I’m somewhat comforted (bleakly, tho) that so many of you see this as being as dire as I do. I was heartsick; didn’t even visit or post on my usual blogs.

    There is almost nothing (military and police being an exception) that the gubmint runs better than the private citizens. If you love public housing, you’ll love socialized medicine. Why is that so hard for the retards to understand?

    And our biggest problem isn’t the bozo-in-chief: it’s all the ignorant retards who voted for him. Even allowing for the vote fraud (I’d estimate 3-5%, based on his storm troops’ antics in the Dem caucuses), that’s a dismayingly huge number of “citizens” who either have no idea what the hell our nation is about, or who are out to tear us down and rebuild us in their socialist/slave state image.

    My sister died this April, in a hospice, after a long fight with liver cancer; my mother died this October in a hospital after a long fight with Alzheimer’s + pancreatic cancer (she was begging to die). I have some bitter resentments against the insurance companies: Blue Cross Blue Shield (Tenn.) refused to pay her hospice bill — on the grounds that she [miraculously] awoke from her coma and therefore she must not have needed hospice care anyway! (She couldn’t get on the chamber pot without help, and was getting continuous O2 and glucose.) Our father, who was paying a fortune to keep my mother with private-duty nurses 12 hours a day (he took the other 12-hour shift, every blessed day, and never left her side), got shafted with the bill for the hospice. The ICU doctors, the hospice doctors, and the lawyers all agreed we had an ironclad case, but BCBS just kept stonewalling.

    My own insurance co. still owes me $600 goddamn dollars for a pneumonia attack while out of town — TWO YEARS ago. I’m going to write a letter to the insurance commissioner and file a complaint. I’m sick of this. In the last 15 years or so, the insurance cos. have started scaly tactics like making you jump through extra hoops, denying legitimate claims a routine three times before paying (only the most persistent make it through that winnowing process), and paying a contemptibly small portion of said claims. They can really exhaust you, especially if you have a debilitating illness.

    Still, I oppose government-run health care, root and branch. It will end up, inevitably, like the Pruitt-Igoe housing project: designed by the bloodless, soulless le Corbusier, it turned into a squalid congeries of hives of crime and filth. When the minders had a town hall for the tenants, they asked them what they wanted to do to improve the complex. To a person, they stood on their chairs and started shouting “Blow it UP! Blow it UP! Blow it UP!!!”

    And so they did.

    But we can’t blow up the country. We can sure as shit turn it into Detroit, though. Now wouldn’t that be special?

  30. 80
    Tallulah says:

    Not le Corbusier. The nearly as soulless Minoru Yamasaki. Same mindset though. Vast concrete expanses surrounding Soviet worker housing blocs.

    See photos:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt-Igoe

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    TeamDub says:

    In regards to LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician’s comment @ :
    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician sez:

    You may find this of interest: http://www.joinden.com/

    Yes. Yes indeed.

    That was quite the strongly worded rant, Emperor… strong enough to jolt me out of my years-long lurkitude. It’s comforting to know that there are still those out there who feel this country and its ideals are worth fighting for – even, perhaps, domestically.

    Dum spiramus tuebimur

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    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology says:

    CPL0341 sez:

    The only problem is getting out the word about jury nullification. As described on http://www.jurybox.org, judges don’t like it when defense attorneys bring it up, threatening contempt of court or worse, so most defense attorneys never bring it up, or try to cajole the juries in that direction without coming out and saying “you have the right to judge the law as well as the person on trial.” I recommend that all faithful members of the Rottweilian Empire inform themselves about jury nullification and try to get the word out. Jury nullification helped bring an end to slavery and prohibition, and it is our last hope before resorting to arms.

    I had jury duty about two years ago; during the vetting process, the judge flat-out told us that our job was to decide what happened; his job was to decide the law. “Anyone got a problem with that?” Of course, I did, and stated so. Within an hour, I was wandering a shopping mall looking for ways to kill time.

    The case in question involved a shifty Mexican who was being charged with his fourth or fifth count of grand theft auto; I didn’t feel as if my dismissal was going to jeopardize the freedom of an innocent. That said, I wondered how one could legitimately remain on a jury when confronted with such a judge?

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    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology says:

    jimmytheclaw sez:

    well its begun mrs claw was just denied a refill of her eye drops (for glaucoma) because medicare no longer will pay for them. they were very effective and now we have to find something cheaper that medicare will cover.

    Brimonidine tartrate? (I think the brand-name moniker is Alphagan™.)

    Someone here also had an inquiry on iron supplements. There are three common iron salts* on the market: ferrous gluconate, ferrous sulfate and ferrous fumarate. (“Salt” refers to the molecular vehicle which aids in drug absorption; it has nothing to do with table salt, despite what retarded Mexicans high on welfare entitlements may think.)

    The %-age of iron absorbed from these three is 12%, 20% and 33%, respectively. In other words, 300 mg of ferrous fumarate yields about 100 mg of elemental iron. Constiptation and stomach upset are the most common side effects, but they can be attenuated by taking the iron supplement with food.

    Food, however, tends to hinder iron absorption. I have yet to quantify this hinderance in objective terms; ditto for Vitamin C’s increased effect on iron absorption. It’s possible that taking one’s iron with food *and* Vitamin C could result in effectively the same absorption levels as just iron alone, but without the GI distress; this is where my research is currently aimed.

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    CPL0341 says:

    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology sez:

    I had jury duty about two years ago; during the vetting process, the judge flat-out told us that our job was to decide what happened; his job was to decide the law. “Anyone got a problem with that?”
    [snip]
    That said, I wondered how one could legitimately remain on a jury when confronted with such a judge?

    Two things you can do:
    1) Ask politely: “I’m a little confused, your honor. According to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in US v. Moylan, ‘If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit.’ With all due respect, your honor, can you please explain why in your court the jury does not have the power that the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals said that we do?” Doing so will then a) get you removed from the jury but at the same time b) inform the other jurors.

    2) Say nothing and sit on the jury. The kangaroo courtmasters do not have the power under the Constitution to throw out an acquittal, only a guilty verdict. Obviously in your case, the scumsucker would have been found guilty by a jury of blind mute commies, but in all other cases… unless directly questioned about my knowledge of jury nullification where I have to tell the truth, I’m keeping my yap shut unless presented with a #1 situation.

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