A Stimulating Idea

While IM’ing with LC Azygos, part of the conversation was about the RINO Red Herring™ being tossed up by a certain Closet Communist from NY, one Peter King. He was hoisting the GFW Guppy Flag™ over the supposedly vast number of “illegal” guns being bought by the Messican drug cartels and those guns being used on both sides of the border.  Well, during the course of the conversation, a simple, yet brilliant, idea began to materialize.  Let’s just call it “Operation Border Stimulation™”, shall we?  Below, we shall outline the plan in all of its simplistic beauty.  (We’ll try to keep the sentences short and full of “un-nuanced” language, so that even the mouth-breathers among us can understand.)

Step 1: The US border states (California, Arizona, New Mexico & Texas) take a few of their billions of Teh One’s Porkulus Package™ and buy several thousand miles of US-produced steel fence and the assorted hardware that goes along with it. Also, as part of this first step, buy millions of dollars worth of US-produced surveillance equipment, patrol vehicles and guns.

Step 2: These border states then hire thousands of unemployed US citizens to install a double fence along the entire border between the US and Mexico, leaving enough space in-between for a heavily-mined “No Man’s Land”. Also, as part of this second step, hire thousands of US citizens to install and maintain the high-tech surveillance equipment.

Step 3: After the fence is installed, hire thousands of US citizens (preferably military vets) to patrol the fence, driving US-built vehicles, and enforce the border and keep out illegal aliens, drug cartels and, possibly, would-be terrorists trying to sneak across. Give them orders to shoot, on-sight, anyone attempting to cross the border illegally, using US-built guns. No exceptions.

Step 4: Hire thousands of law enforcement officers to round up illegal aliens across the US and ship them back across the border, using, of course, US-built buses.

Now, for all of you slobbering Obamaniacs® out there, let us lay out exactly how this would stimulate our economy, massively slash our deficit and, subsequently, free up billions upon billions of dollars of resources (money, time, equipment, fuel, etc.) that could be used For Teh Chillllren™ of America.

1. The purchase of the thousands of miles of steel fence & materials, made in the US, would help out US steel manufacturers and, subsequently, all of the industries that go about supporting them. (Mining, transportation, energy, etc.) Employment numbers go up in all steel producing areas and the areas that support them.

2. The installation of the thousands of miles of fence, by US citizens, would employ thousands of unemployed construction workers hurt by the down-turn in the housing industry, thus freeing up hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars and, as an added bonus, add to the tax coffers by bringing in more income taxes.

3. The high-tech surveillance systems, made in the US, would employ thousands people in high-tech jobs, from the manufacturing, installation and maintenance of the systems. These jobs would, in turn, stimulate all of the businesses that support the high-tech industry. (Mining, transportation, energy, etc.)

4. The hiring of thousands of US citizens to patrol the fence would give returning vets well-paying jobs and, in turn, keep their skills honed, should they be needed in future conflicts elsewhere in the world.

5. The purchase of the patrol vehicles and buses used to deport the illegal aliens would help out the ailing US auto industry, thus putting US auto workers back to work and adding money to the tax coffers.

6. After word gets around Messico and the rest of the Turd World Shitholes™ that reside south of the border that one will summarily die, should one attempt to illegally enter the US, 99.99% of those considering the pros and cons of such an attempt will decide that it’s just not worth it. This will, in turn, make it easier for the Border Patrol officers to do their job, since there will be less of a flow of those attempting to illegally enter the US. This will, in turn, free up resources to process the paperwork of those trying to get into the US legally.

7. Having the millions of illegal aliens out of the country will tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars on health care costs by cutting down on the massive numbers of illegal aliens flooding our ER’s and ‘free’ health clinics.

8. Having the illegal aliens gone will free up millions of jobs in the construction, services and other industries to be filled by unemployed US citizens, thus taking millions of US citizens off the unemployment rolls and putting them back on the tax payer rolls.

9. Having millions of illegal aliens off the US streets will massively reduce crime (Murders, rapes, burglaries, theft, drug running, etc.), thus saving needless suffering, both monetarily & emotionally, of US citizens and freeing up law enforcement resources and prison space for our very own homegrown felons.

10. Having millions of illegal aliens off the US roads will cut down on the number of illegal aliens who drive illegally and without insurance, thus cutting down on the massive costs of auto accidents (monetary, physical & emotional), helping to keep our insurance companies solvent and keeping down costs to US citizens for their insurance coverage. It will also massively free up EMS & law enforcement resources to deal with the needs of US citizens.

11. Having millions of illegal aliens and their offspring out of the US would free up tens, if not hundreds, of billions of dollars, annually, on “free” housing, food, clothing, education, medical and any other number of services that they suck up that could be used to improve the lives of children of US citizens.

12. Stopping the massive flow of illegal aliens across the border would prevent the thousands of tons of garbage that are annually dumped in the pristine natural areas of the southwestern US, thus helping out Mother Gaia™. It would also cut down exponentially on the amount of trash dumped all over the country by the Turd Worlders™ as they fan out across this beautiful land.

These are just a few of the savings & stimulations that would be realized by wisely investing a relatively minuscule portion of Teh One’s Porkulus Package™ in border security and enforcement.

Can we secure our border and our economic future? YES WE CAN!!!



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    How ’bout a Pizza For The Border Guys deal, like the IDF so deservedly enjoys?

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    LC Aggie Sith says:

    Damn, but DAMN, BC!!

    Brilliant plan. Wonderful execution. Kills 273 birds with one stone. Such logic is beyond exceptional, truly brilliant.

    Thus, the reason it would never be implemented.

    Volunteering with the Minutemen jades one a bit 😉

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    LC Aggie Sith says:


    Over here in South Texas in the area I live, there was one pizza joint independently owned and operated who wanted to donate pizzas to those of us scouting the local lumberyards. He was boycotted by an Hispanic group, pressured to stop his “racist” doings.

    The irony: the proprietor is himself of Hispanic heritage.

    Personally, I think it’s a fantabulous idea to do a Pizza-for-the-Minutemen thing. 😀

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    LC Xealot says:

    When I used to live in LA, there were tons of yellow warning signs, some with flashing lights and lower speed advisories, on the southern freeways, like I-5 going into San Diego, etc… They had icons of little families running across the freeway. They were intended to warn drivers of illegals unwisely running across 10 lane freeways in the dead of night (these are definitely NOT Mexico’s best and brightest citizens).

    As part of your plan to lower illegal immigration, how about we remove all of the advisory signs ;).

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    LC Ted says:

    Thank you, BC for giving me hope that there is someone who thinks the same way I do that we should

    1. Secure our border and
    2. Put AMERICANS to work.

    Screw China, Brazil and the EU. They don’t play “Free Trade”(a myth) with us but whine like the little pissants they are when we stand up for ourselves. They tariff our goods, subsidize their industries (which exports their unemployment to us)and our fool business people run into their arms for cheap, I’m sorry slave labor to boost their profits and still charge an unemployed American the same price.


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    usmc8511 says:

    Sign me up.

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    Marinia says:

    One problem with idea #1. US made surveillance equipment. Until you actually show me some that isn’t produced in China, I don’t think it exists. As for the pizza idea, you do realize you are dealing with Southern States, so I would hope you’d modify the idea to include BBQ, Kolaches, and Shiner Bock.

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    LC Rurik says:

    Brilliant. A comprehensive combination of all the best border ideas. Now one more idea – a law aad/or constitutional decision establishing that citizens illegally in this country are not protected by our Constitution, laws, courts or other servicews. If you’re here illegally, its open season on you – just like it has been on us. Put a pizza bounty on illegals? Yes – with extra topping if the illegal is room temperature.

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    LC Ranger 6, Imperial Wielder of The Rove says:

    Brilliant logic, but it’s too complex. The fastest way to solve both is a 1/4 mile deep mine field on all four borders (oceans included) with proximity fuses that can be deactivated remotely. Mine replacement teams placed every half mile that disable portions that have had “action” the previous night and replace the mines. That stops the illegals.

    Then eliminate the corporate tax completely. Even foreign business will flock to America. There won’t be enough workers to fill all the jobs. Our economy will explode.

    And I’m not even a community organizer.

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    Cricket says:

    It isn’t too complex for conservative right wingers to understand, just the liberals. It is so beautifully simple that it makes sense, and therein lies the complexity. Heads will explode over this.

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    LC Ranger 6, Imperial Wielder of The Rove says:

    It isn’t too complex for conservative right wingers to understand, just the liberals

    Exactly what I meant.

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    LC hilljohnny says:

    why not just declare a bounty on the vermin and let people set up blinds on the U.S. side of the border. say $1000.00 per dead illegal ($50.00 if they are stiil breathing). set up testing centers to prove your marksmanship, issue hunting license and be assigned an area. people could go to a center and sign up for an eight hour shift. turn the mines off in the assigned area. red and green lights would indicate when the mines were live. any hunter who fails to stop a crosser would be required to adopt and support them.

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    Shaitana says:

    whoa slow down there big boy! This idea smacks of LOGIC and you know we can’t be having any of that… I mean really.

    Now me personally? Ana atakalum alughat alarabiya wa espaniya so dude… SIGN ME THE FUCK UP! (It’s more fun taunting them in their own tongues as you shoot them) Ya know it reminds me of so many nice Arabs that I have met and when they asked me why I chose to learn their wonderful language (and it actually is a thing of beauty from a linguistic perspective) it always cracked me up when I told them….. why it was so I would be better able to kill them of course! (Keep in mind this was before the Iraq war) Couple that with growing up in Imperial Valley California learning all the colorful borderspeak…. ya I can double tap both types trying to cross over….

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    Absolutely right!
    What was I thinking Marinia !?!
    ‘Major culinary FooPaw on my part.
    ‘N after all these times I’ve said “MMmm, this BBQ could save the world”..


    (Of course, retain pizza as an option for the Officers of Non-Southern heritage,,they’re hungry too!)

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    Terrapod says:

    Brilliant plan. Obvious, simple, effective, smart and 100% in accordance with our constitution, which is why it will never get passed the democrap congress and maybe not even past some 15% of the libtard elephants in house of senate. Will support the concept and plan to send it to every state senator and rep. I can target, keep spreading this around and get it to go viral.

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    Shaitana said:

    Ana atakalum alughat alarabiya

    Wa ana aydahn. Darastuha fie madrassatil jaysh fie medinatee Monterey fie alf tissamia arba wah thamaneen wah khamsa wah thamaneen. Walakkin, la athkaru katheer min alugha hathahil ayam. (Kharoojtu min kuwat aljoeweeyah fie arba wah tissayeen.)

    “Allahoom ihfathanee min ozdikha-ee, thalika be-annanee sofa utkee ada’ee be-nefsee!”

    (Translation: “Lord, protect me from my friends, for I will take care of my enemies myself!”)

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    mindy1 says:

    Cool ideas-they make sense, which is why they will not get done(i miss my emoticans)

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    Deathknyte says:

    The border guys should also be issued with Cadillac-Gage Stingray Light tanks, just in case the drug cartels decide to hire themselves some mex army units to clear the minefield for them.

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    LC Subotai Bahadur says:

    To which I wish to add three points. Bear with me as it seems that the HTML buttons are gone, and my HTML-fu is weak. So I will be improvising.

    This from a friend last month:

    ————————————————–block quote ———————————


    will never happen now but it



    Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around.

    I didn’t know of this until it was pointed out to me. But, back during The
    Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order
    to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.

    Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal’s after WWII to
    create jobs for returning veterans.

    And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican nationals! The program was called ‘Operation Wetback’ so that American WWII and Korean veterans had a better
    chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

    Now, if they could deport the illegal’s back then, they can sure do it today!! If you have
    doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your
    favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.

    **Reminder: Don’t forget to pay your taxes … 12 million Illegal Aliens will be needing welfare.




    Criminal Invaders

    ————————————————-end block quote——————————————–

    More than 12 million, I fear.

    Second point: If we did not have to pay the costs in welfare and prisons alone of illegal aliens, maybe Hussein Pasha and the Democrats would see their way clear to paying for the medical care of disabled Veterans instead of wanting them to pay the government for care for their wounds. Nah, won’t happen. The Democrats will happily give anything [out of OUR pockets] to criminals and would even more happily throw our wounded Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen out on the streets to beg.

    By the way, thank you LC Muscledaddy for the heads up. It has been forwarded to the Colorado Springs [very much a military town] Chamber of Commerce. They had not heard of it and are furious. While our Congressman [CO-5th], Doug Lamborn, is already a staunch defender of the country from the Marxists [so much so that our RINO state party supported an opponent who would “reach across the aisle and work with the Democrats” last cycle] they are holding other politicians’ feet to the fire.

    Third point: Given the literal war between the drug cartels [that really control the Mexican border states] and the rump Mexican central government; and the hundreds of incursions of armed Mexican troops [frequently working for the drug cartels] on our soil, it is but a matter of time before we have a repeat of Columbus, New Mexico. Control of the border will prevent that.

    I am sure that our resident Leftists will soon be trying to hammer me for being a nasty racist because I prefer that we remain sovereign on our own soil. I do have my own personal preferences for Immigration. In Short:

    1) Control the freaking border. First rule of holes; when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

    2) Right now, we get about 1 million immigrants per year, almost totally illegal Mexican nationals. I want to EXPAND immigration, on our terms. I think we can legally assimilate 1% of our population a year, if we really mean it, which would be 3 million per year.

    3) Take the 1% immigration quota and divvy it up evenly by continent. Let the State Department and DOD decide which countries are friendly enough to us to have an immigration quota on an annual basis, and what percentage of the continental total. i.e. we really do not need any more Saudi’s or Yemeni’s for obvious reasons, etc..

    4) Hold all legal immigrants to what I call the Ellis Island tests:

    a) Proof of no criminal record, or at least what we consider a crime. Telling your local dictator to get stuffed probably should get you bonus points. We do, however, have enough thieves, murderers, drug dealers, rapists, child molesters, etc. I could tell you tales that would make your head spin about the backgrounds of some of the Mexican national illegals we have locked up here.

    b) If you have certain diseases, thank you we have enough here and you get to play the home game in your own country. No AIDS, No drug-resistant TB, No Hepatitis, No Ebola, and other diseases to be named later by the Public Health Service.

    c) No membership in movements at war with the US. I know that Hussein Pasha truly loves HAMAS and Hezbollah, but his love can be a long distance relationship. DOD and Homeland Security can make the list.

    d) Must have, or be able to learn a legal trade; or be a minor child, spouse, parent, grandparent, or blood sibling of a US citizen who meets all other requirements. Must not receive public assistance during the years pending recieving First Papers.

    e) Must have a financially stable US citizen sponsor [not a corporation, but an individual] who is personally liable for seeing that his/her sponsored immigrant(s) do not go on public assistance during the years they are awaiting their First Papers, and repaying any costs that they do incur from public assistance. A sponsor may withdraw sponsorship, but is still liable for the debts incurred. A sponsor may not, under Federal felony penalty; impose charges, indebtedness, force sponsored immigrants to commit illegal acts, or force them to live in inhumane conditions as a condition of sponsorship. We are trying to import free citizen applicants, not indentured servants. If a sponsor should default, their sponsored immigrants shall have 6 months to find a suitable replacement sponsor before becoming subject to deportation.

    f) violation of the terms above, especially conviction of any crime, will mandate immediate, permanent deportation without appeal.

    5) All tests for citizenship will be conducted in English, to promote a basic knowledge of the language that will allow assimilation.

    6) Once you are a legal resident, with a sponsor, you will be allowed to work in any legal job that will hire you. HOWEVER, the use of e-Verify or subsequent system devised to determine legal work status shall be mandatory by employers of anyone who cannot produce proof of citizenship/legal residence. Failure to use the available system for such checks shall expose the employer to the same penalties as are being used in Arizona. First offense of hiring an illegal alien without checking will close the business for 30 days. Second offense will close it for 6 months. Third offense will close the business permanently. It shall be an affirmative defense for an employer that he did in fact use the system to check legal status.

    7) Anchor babies: In the event that aliens are deported and they are parents/guardians of minor children who are US citizens; the following process will be followed.

    It is noted that in the normal course of life, minor children live wherever their parents live. If alien parents are deported, the parents will have the option of leaving their US citizen children with US citizen guardians. If such does not occur, the child(ren) will be deported with the parents after the following procedure:

    a) the Department of State will take and maintain copies of birth/immigration data for each individual child.
    b) they will take and maintain records of the fingerprints, retinal patterns, and DNA.
    c) the child(ren) will be deported with their parents.
    d) upon reaching the age of 18, regardless of any prior acts of allegiance required by their country of residence before turning 18, the deported US citizen child may appear at any US diplomatic mission, claiming his/her citizenship. The mission shall take such application; current copy of the applicant’s fingerprints, retinal patterns, and samples of DNA and securely forward them to the Department of State in Washington, DC. The Department of State will compare the forwarded information with the records on file. The results of the comparison will be forwarded by the Department of State to the initiating diplomatic mission. If the comparison verifies, by ALL the tests, the citizenship of the applicant, the mission will issue appropriate and necessary documentation to allow the applicant to travel to any location in the US that the applicant desires. Upon arrival in the US, a repeat confirmation of the identification will be made with fresh samples within 24 hours by ICE. At that point appropriate documentation of citizenship WILL be issued if the first tests are confirmed. The Federal government will provide a reasonable amount of financial aid and services for integration of the applicant into American society.

    8) Foreign nationals illegally present in the United States will be given a period of 6 months to register with the United States government. Upon registration, they will be subject to the same process as above, every bit of the screening and deported immediately, permanently, and without appeal if so indicated. If foreign nationals fail to register in the allotted period, later attempts at compliance notwithstanding, they will be deported immediately, permanently, and without appeal. In addition to all the above requirements, foreign nationals who were present illegally in the United States at the time of registration will have their mandatory period of sponsorship and waiting for application for First Papers DOUBLED, and any violation of the conditions above will result in immediate, permanent deportation without appeal.

    9) In matters of immigration, other than special bills passed through Congress and signed into law by the President for the benefit of specific individuals, the decisions of the ICE as to the legal status of all aliens in the US not granted citizenship, with the exception of #7 above shall be final with no further recourse to Federal or State courts.

    This probably could be put together in a statute of less than 5 pages. Simple, effective. Our strength as a nation comes in large part from being able to assimilate people from around the world into Americans. Right now, we are doing our best to avoid assimilation of anyone and drawing our immigrants almost exclusively from one country and by definition only bringing in criminals.

    I await the arrival of the usual suspects to bitch.

    LC Subotai Bahadur

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    LC Subotai Bahadur says:

    #19 Me

    I realise the comments on the site are semi-buggered. I note that the smiley face in #19 above was supposed to be “8)”. I did have an evil grin when I did it, but this came out of nowhere. As noted above, I did not have access to the HTML formatting options.

    LC Subotai Bahadur

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    LC BrainFromArous, God-Fearing Atheist says:

    This is so racist… you, you RACIST!

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    LC Gunsniper says:

    As part of your plan to lower illegal immigration, how about we remove all of the advisory signs ;).

    Or add on a smaller sign underneath that says “500 points”.

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    LC Stargazer says:

    Subotai? Great plan. Now if we can only sell it to the government….

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    Tonto, injun scout says:

    Any plan that gets illegals outa here and keeps more from getting here is a good plan. As for the drug runners and the cartels that run the runners……kill ’em all.

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    SeniorD says:

    Fantastic idea and brilliant execution!

    Only addition I can think of is collecting ALL of the Congrestitutes and ship them off to Messico as well. Then we can hold new elections with candidates that swear to uphold the Constitution or be thrown out on their ear.

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    Princess Natasha, Uber-Whore of Zion says:

    Drug problem will only be solved if all drugs become legalized. Yes, I fucking said it. Employers can still demand that their employees do not partake (it’s the employers’ business after all). At the same time, all the losers will die out, and the criminal element associated with drugs will be eliminated. They will move on to other countries, that still have prohibition, or do something else, such as become knowledgeable pharmacists (ha-ha, that was supposed to be funny). This will also curb the foreign parasite influx, you know, those wannabe gangbangers looking to turn a quick buck by taking advantage of our ridiculous prohibition.

    At the same time, cut out all welfare. ALL. OF. IT. Corporate or private. Subsidies and handouts…Abolish minimum wage. Get rid of price controls. Institute a flat tax or plain old sales tax, for starters, if you must… Fire politicians who have frivolous positions: i.e those who are not performing the three sole legitimate functions of the government, on any level. The three are : external defense, internal defense and courts to settle disputes.

    Sure, it will get rough for a while, but many people are preparing for that anyway. Why not make a transition to a laissez-faire, capitalist, truly open society, instead of substituting one authoritarian tyranny for another? A laissez-faire society is one where justice prevails. Some may argue it is deficient on mercy, but it is not really the society’s domain. Mercy and compassion will yet again be restored to where they belong– with the individuals.

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    Absolutely outstanding concept there BC and N@.

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    seagoon says:

    Spam on #23?

    Something’s cutting Akismet

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    Got it, SG. I thought it might have been a valid trackback earlier. Thanks for the heads-up.

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    LC gahaze says:

    You forgot the air support, BC. Revamp the FAR’s to permit civilian-owned/operated aircraft
    armaments for border patrol. Then add FLIR, and “bounce” the border line. A Mini-gun belly-
    mounted in a Cessna, with an approximate 30 degree down-angle built in for strafing would
    no doubt have a salutatory effect on the situation.

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    Princess Natasha, Uber-Whore of Zion says:

    Until the bullshit welfare is cut, ridiculous “war on some drugs” laws are repealed, and immigration laws are no longer a despicable clusterfuck that they are, I do not want to hear about shooting sorry motherfuckers trying to come here most likely in search of a paying fucking JOB, because the commie shitholes they are running from have none to offer. The only gott-damn reason there are few jobs to be had here is because of the damn unions and other stupid socialist policies. Get those repealed, THEN shoot the real violators of rights. Because there is no such thing as a RIGHT to a job. Your anger is slightly misplaced.

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    N@, you have the right to your opinion as to where your anger should be placed and we have ours. My anger knows exactly where it’s supposed to be directed. Thanks for the offer, though.

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    Princess Natasha, Uber-Whore of Zion says:

    I know I am antagonizing a lot of people by taking such a position. It is nothing new to me, to stand alone and fight. Here, I trust enough people know me to see what I am trying to say. Do you really think the INS is such a wonderful thing? Would you, if you were around then, turn down boat-loads of Jews who tried to come here from Germany in the beginning of WWII (as fuckhead FDR did)? Would you turn a bunch of escaped Russian POWs over to Stalin because they did not come here legally? (Because that is what FDR did)… Come on… Where the fuck does this craziness end? Yes, gangbangers and terrorists are a problem. But your plain old Jose and Maria coming here to mow your lawns and do your laundry are NOT. Stop directing your anger against them, trying to find a better life, and look at the root of the damn disease, which is our bloated, socialist Nanny-Monster-State.

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    Where the fuck does this craziness end? Yes, gangbangers and terrorists are a problem. But your plain old Jose and Maria coming here to mow your lawns and do your laundry are NOT. Stop directing your anger against them, trying to find a better life, and look at the root of the damn disease, which is our bloated, socialist Nanny-Monster-State.

    If your “plain old Jose and Maria” were not here in the tens of millions and not sucking down massive amounts of my tax money and causing untold suffering among US citizens, I’d go along with your theory of “compassionate conservatism”. I happen to live among hundreds of thousands of the filthy parasites and I don’t appreciate having my money supporting their breed-til-you-don’t-bleed family lifestyle and cultural corruption and wondering if my family is going to be the victim of their criminality and/or idiocy.


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    LC HJ Caveman82952 says:

    I view this as part of a continuing attempt to undermine and destroy the sovereignty of this nation, to be pillaged by a world goverment, playing a guilt trip on the populace. The left will love, it, contemptible, self-hating souls they are. Born failures that cannot stand success, even their own.
    I simply watch and wait…..I just posted this at Oath Keepers…

    I wonder if any on the left ever get nervous…?
    For no, we do not believe them.
    After all, guns sales have never been higher in our country’s history. They will not be taken, regardless of Obama’s demonstrated contempt of the Constitution. Nor will the UN, blue helmets make easy targets. Foreign soldiers not invited to American soil are enemies, that simple.
    I do expect them to try…..perhaps culminating in a guerrilla war in the United States.
    The wailing lament of the hand-wringers…….we are the most heavily armed nation on Earth.
    I do hope so……..
    I have absolutely no intention of complying with any mandates from this crowd…..if I had more money I would own more guns. I have heard otherwise sensible, intelligent people prattle on about Obama’s views on the second amendment, claiming he favors it.
    I tell them to examine his record.
    Not one has disputed me that has bothered to do so….I think most are afraid to.
    History has it’s lessons………
    Rather than seek to confiscate weapons, it will simply make it a crime to use them in self-defense, hiding behind the UN charter that literally says you do not have the right to kill in self-defense, or for a woman to shoot a rapist, for it deprives a murderer of his right to life. They already have plans to use the UN to subjugate the Constitution to it’s mandates.
    Think I’m joking or exaggerating?
    Now why is it I would much prefer to fight one making such mandates than one committing these crimes? It has to do with my feelings regarding traitors. For if I figure life is no longer worth living, than I would have no compunctions regarding dealing with such types.
    Look it up…..for I hold them in abject contempt.
    I remember a dead Marine I called friend…….
    The attempt is coming…..I have little doubt. I always remember government is at best, a benevolent parasite, at worst a despotic enslaver of souls, minds and lives. It cannot give you something it did not take from someone else.
    I took an oath once too…to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, not a man, or a position or a government…….
    They assume I am foolish or stupid.
    I wouldn’t have it any other way…….
    So I stand quietly, my resistance silent for the most part, based on allegiance, associations and words. I won’t argue, for that is pointless by and large.
    I much prefer to cast reasonable doubts….let others draw their own conclusions.
    I have set foot in twenty-five states, lived in three. Over time I think my favorite region was the South….for I loved it and still miss it. I always will. If not for this beloved little town and my family, I would be there now.
    But as with most former military, I do know how to use my guns, or to have the sense not to fiddle with one unfamilar to me. I won’t keep a gun I cannot use.
    I take this oath, sent this note and link to my friends…..and it is spreading….

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    Lt. Natasha sez:

    Yes, gangbangers and terrorists are a problem. But your plain old Jose and Maria coming here to mow your lawns and do your laundry are NOT. Stop directing your anger against them, trying to find a better life, and look at the root of the damn disease, which is our bloated, socialist Nanny-Monster-State.

    I have no beef with Jose and Maria, provided they play by the rules and enter this country legally.

    If you want to put a dent in the illegal immigration problem, streamline the immigration and naturalization process….get rid of the red tape and make it a more attractive option than sneaking across the border.

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    LC Gunsniper says:

    Drug problem will only be solved if all drugs become legalized.

    Doubt it highly. There is still such a thing as the bootlegging of coffin nails.

    Decriminalization on the other hand has potential. Let the hopheads too stupid to understand the concept of discretion pick up trash, scrape pigeon shit off of statues, scrub out public crappers and the like.

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    LC Subotai Bahadur says:

    Princess Natasha, Uber-Whore of Zion


    The reason that I want to control the border is precisely so that we can filter out the gangbangers, freelance criminals, and terrorists. I want immigrants who want to become Americans, lots of them. But I have seen the consequences of open borders. I have said that I was a Peace Officer before I retired. Most of my career was spent working in our Department of Corrections [here we are Peace Officers with full arrest powers and authority to enforce any law, statewide, and engage in hot pursuit across state lines with appropriate guidelines].

    One day, I got curious. About 1/3 of our inmates were Hispanic. I was curious about how many of them in my facility were Mexican nationals. So I went into our computer database. We are authorized to check any inmate in the system, online. I started looking at what we call the ADS summaries, which show vital statistics and convictions, among other things. About 1/3 of the Hispanics were Mexican nationals, or about 1/6 of our inmates. Not all of them were gangbangers. BUT. In my facility literally every Mexican national was in on one specific charge. Sexual Assault on a Child. Amongst our American born Hispanics, we had the range of offenses; murder, rape, robbery, drug dealing, etc. and some Sexual Assault on a Child. But EVERY SINGLE MEXICAN NATIONAL we had! Granting that we had a Sex Offender Treatment Program based there, but that was less than 20% of our inmates. And it was spread across racial lines.

    I know that not all Mexican national criminals are child rapists. The do have their gangbangers, etc. A hell of a lot of them. And my facility [we have a bunch of prisons in my state] was obviously atypical. But it illustrates a point.

    The criminals we are getting in from Mexico are doing horrendous things. Let immigrants come from around the world. Let them make a better life here, and welcome to them so long as America becomes their country and they obey our laws. Jose and Maria themselves will be safer if we keep the wolves out.

    But part of defending the civilian women and children of this country involves stopping the bad guys at the border.


    With all due respect [and I do have quite a lot of respect for you], I disagree with the idea that the drug smuggling problem will go away if we legalize drugs. I am not unsympathetic with the Libertarian viewpoint. But there will not be a “perfect market” if drugs are legalized. First, given the volumes moving, supply and demand has made street drugs absurdly cheap. It is at the point where kids can buy crack with the few dollars their parents give them for school lunch money.

    Now, assume that the Federales legalize drugs. Legalization does not mean that it will not be taxed. Look at what they have done to cigarettes, alcohol, etc. Yeah, they will slap some amazing taxes on it. Look at New York. Hell, look at Oregon where they are slapping a 600% increase on microbrew beer. Legal, Federally approved and tax stamped drugs are going to be significantly more expensive than the street drugs. The illegal market will still be there, more than there. Your average stoner will look at the price and figure he can get 3 times as much dope from his old connection on the street than if he buys from Ye Olde FDA Soma Shoppe. So he will buy bootleg.

    Now, in most cases, I do not give an obese rodent’s glut‘s if he overdoses or ruins his life so long as I do not have to pay for it, or if his self-destruction does not harm me or mine. Sometimes Darwin wins.

    BUT the drug wars will not be over. The same as they go after bootleg distillers, the same as they go after bootleg cigarettes, they will still be going after the druggies. It will not be for any supposed concern over the health and safety of Americans. They will be kicking down doors and dragging people away simply because they are the “Revenoo-ers” and they are out to enforce a tax monopoly. The BATF would love it.

    Legalization will remove some aspects of the drug wars; but I fear it will create others, with little net change.

    LC Subotai Bahadur

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    Wreckerboy says:

    But I still have to ask, when did we get RPGS, under the second??? Hell Molotov cocktails are banned, yet., you can still find how to on the net. -FBI bull. I say that it is time for the Tri-States to stand up. 2010 will be to late. As if we had a chance. All we will do is the SOS/DD party line. You want to vote Republician=no vote duhmmie=no vote, Independant=no vote. Add Ted Nugent as whatever you vote. Uncle Ted in 12. If no vote like that then you will have the next War between the states. And I know what side I am on. Do you hear Fred Bear??? Against the wind. Ted Nugent. I do………………………………….

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    Shaitana says:

    Momtaaz Jidden! Darastu fi Monterey aydan fi senaat Al-Clintonistas… Kuntu fi jaysh wa thahebtu ila Ft Stewart li senatayn. Then I moved on to UF to study Lingistics ironically focusing on Semitic languages as well as the history of English.

    Back on topic though…

    I am a pessimist and expect the worst.

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    I hear ya Shaitana,,

    When the worst happens,, y’already in the right posture.
    But, when it doesn’t, it’s a wonderful bonus.


    You’d probably appreciate dispair.com

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    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology says:


    This is golden.

    When I become Drug Czar of Libertaria, will you be my Secretary?

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    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology says:

    Okay, just FTW is up with the interface here?!?

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    LC Aggie Sith says:

    Just a few thoughts, speaking as an American of Hispanic heritage, raised 20 miles from the Mexican border:

    I will be travelling this August to the Rio Grande Valley, for the 6th anniversary of the death of my friend. She was brutally gang-raped and then killed, by three illegals from Mexico. Drugs were not involved, nor was money. Just the opportunity for THEM to punish HER for being an American of Hispanic heritage.

    My father’s “compadre” will be celebrating his life this coming May. He was carjacked at gunpoint by an illegal alien. He would have been dead, had the gun not jammed. Why did the illegal feel the need to take the car? Because it was, to the dirtbag, “available”. He suffered a broken nose and a broken cheekbone as a result of the gun jamming, and my dad’s friend getting pissed off enough to grab the greasy head and slam it against the dashboard. Not bad for an 80 year old!

    We lived in a house that had railroad tracks running right by it. My mother never, EVER, let us play in the backyard, even though we had a fence. Her reason: a young girl had been kidnapped just a mile down from there by illegals. She was found a day later, severely traumatized and violated. This was also about the time she taught us how to use a machete.

    These are just three examples from my neck of the woods. I understand the plight of those who only wish to come here for a better life, and agree that immigration laws and red tape should be cut, big time. But by the same token, I ask WHY these same people are not willing to change the cesspool of corruption in THEIR country. It is hard to do, but not impossible. And I can’t help but notice that some of the people who flee to our country voted for the people who would give them freebies in THEIR country, too.

    As to the drug question, well, I tend to fall as a conservative with libertarian leanings, but legalizing ALL drugs will not stem the flow of illegals into the US. None of the illegals I helped to round up for ICE had drug ties or problems. They just wanted to work and get free benefits. Again, generalizing a bit, but that has been my experience.

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