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Just read that Maddog Mutha Murtha has passed on. In the interest of trying (REALLY trying) to be civil….
Oh hell….another bastard bites the dust. At this rate we’ll have Congress cleaned out by Christmas.
UPDATE [Emp. Misha] Beat me to it, Mrs M. And so an illustrious career in corruption, bribe-taking, treason and robbing the taxpayers blind comes to an end. A long overdue end, we might add.
We’d try to come up with something neutral to say, but after Haditha… Nope, just ain’t got it in us.
Roast in Pieces, you rotten, slanderous, treasonous, corrupt, skin-bag’s worth of feces. Karma’s a bitch, ain’t she?
We will acknowledge one undeniable achievement of yours, EX Marine.
There, acknowledged.
Now dump that sack of shit into an unmarked grave. The cadaver is already beginning to stink up the neighborhood.
Thatisall.
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You fucking elitist prick.
No. Sorry. Can’t call you that. Best part of a man and all.
Why don’t you take one of the many invitations here to go fuck yourself. I think you are lower than whale shit just as much as murthafucker and would morn your passing even less.
I don’t know and don’t care what your relationship is with management and maybe this will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back on me not getting to come back here, but you are truly a snotty bastard that I would have happily beat to a pulp in my younger days and scorn with passionate abandon now (and who knows if we ever met face to face).
You are everything I loathe about the left. You have no honor, no base, no moral foundation. You are the reason we now have 13 year old children taking guns to school and shooting classmates and teachers. When I was in HIGHSCHOOL I and my classmates routinely took our shotguns to school, kept them in our locker and went bird hunting or skeet or trap shooting after school.
We respected adults and RULES! We understood that parents were in charge. Adults were in charge.
Your ilk has corrupted this country to the point where we are doomed if we don’t realize what you are and eradicate you like the disease that you are.
Fuck you deej. Fuck you and every murthafucker like you. May you all rot in hell.
Hmm .. the more evolved person ..
But it’s more fun to do what we’re doing. After all, he DOES have a legacy and the Left did far worse to Reagan.
He damn sure won’t slander innocent Marines ever again. So that’s something.
Radical Redneck said the following:
Anyone here want to start a Death Pool? (Celebrities included)
See, the thing is DJ, that I HATE when some oily hypocrite like Ted Kennedy dies. He’s lionized to the heavens and no one is allowed to say that he was a cheat, a hypocrite and a murderer. The media broadcasts every lying eulogy about him.
It’s the same with others.
When someone dies, that doesn’t necessarily make them good. Michael Jackson died because he was a junkie, only the media covered it as if he were some sort of saint. I just don’t like listening to mass hypocrisy, especially when it’s shoved down my throat.
Also, as Draco said:
The soldiers he said were guilty of murder — totally unconstitutional by the way — still have to pay their bills, clear their names, and have lost years of freedom. No one ever pays attention to a retraction. So yes, the evil that he did lives on, as Willie would say.
We’re going to have to listen to what a great guy he was, and no one mentions Abscam or the many other corrupt deals he made. I’m not going to throw dirt on his grave, but I’m not going to stop saying the truth either.
readerjp said the following:
Bingo. If the coverage of swine when they died was limited to “he’s dead”, then we could talk about bygones. But when you accept lying eulogies about dead pigs while at the same time condemning anybody mentioning the truth, then we have a problem.
I suppose, when Hitler died, we could always talk about how he loved his dog Blondie and chastise anybody who as much as mentions the Holocaust and WWII.
But that’s not how I roll.
No, I’m not saying that Murtha=Hitler, he’s not even in the same zip code, but if you give a green light to eulogizing him, then you have to be able to let the bad stuff be heard too.
readerjp said the following:
And, apart from that, something that too many people seem to have an all too easy time “forgetting” is that his baseless accusations, his denouncing our troops overseas as “coldblooded murderers with blood on their hands” without a shred of evidence undoubtedly pushed quite a few fence-sitters among the Iraqi people into the enemy’s camp.
How many of those fence-sitters ended up murdering our soldiers because of that, how many of them ended up strapping a bomb to themselves because they heard a member of the Ameriki’s government denouncing our troops as cold-blooded murderers with blood on their hands? How many families ended up with loved ones lost because of his grandstanding comments? How many American girls and boys ended up growing up without a father because those fathers were killed by people who didn’t feel they had a dog in the fight until a member of our own government stated, for the record, that our troops were cold-blooded murdering machines?
How many obituaries were written thanks to Murthafucker’s narcissistic need to grandstand for political purposes?
I’m supposed to “forgive and forget” all of that just because the swine croaked?
Never.
If G-d forgives him, then that’s His choice.
I, for one, cannot.
Thatisall.
@ R6:
THAT record seems to be skipping…
LC Sir Intellectual Conservative 5th Columnist said the following:
“They” did? And so two wrongs make it right?
Look, I voted for Reagan — the first time. Missed the second one. I didn’t agree with a lot of what he was going for, but then I have yet to find a president that I have ever been completely behind. Nor have I found one that I actually hated.
I was sad when Reagan died. I was touched by the service given. While there were quite a few things that he was responsible for that I disagreed with, I applied the same principle to him as I advocate for John Murtha. Like I said, this is a spiritual thing with me when it comes to talking about the dead — I don’t talk bad about them, no matter who they were. I can talk about the things they did that I didn’t like, but I would NEVER wish their souls to rot, burn, or somehow desecrate their body. I think that does more harm to YOUR soul than it does to the person you are trying to desecrate.
I am not saying that you shouldn’t dislike or disapprove of something a person did in his or her life. The passing of the person doesn’t change the fact that something was said and/or done. Hate the action, not the actor. We are all here for a specific purpose. Some of you might even call it “God’s Plan”.
Apparently I am here to bother the hell out of Ranger.
Good come back Potsie!!!
Let’s see if Fonzie agrees!!!
R6 said the following:
Well, you really didn’t have anything to say… Was I supposed to respond to your completely unrelated ranting? You missed my point altogether and just jumped onto your usual “Attack DJ” routine. It is a broken record.
Emperor Misha I said the following:
It boils down to the two wrongs not making a right thing. I am speaking from MY perspective, NOT from what someone else on the Right or Left does. Notice that I am not defending Murtha or even Kennedy. They both were responsible for good AND bad things, but I am not going to sit here and “lionize” or condemn either one of them. I don’t sit here and talk about pissing on someone’s grave, or some other sort of desecration. I also don’t wish eternal damnation or anything else like that because as someone said here (quoting you of course, ) Karma is a bitch. If you believe in the God of the Bible, let HIM decide what a person’s fate is — he doesn’t need to hear from any of us on the matter, does He? I am guessing that He would be kinda peeved to have one of us pester him into something, doncha think?
If someone here were talking the same way about Ronald Reagan, I would be saying the same exact thing to them. It isn’t about ideology, it is about decency and spirituality. Life itself is sacred, and death is part of life. The rest is just what happens in between.
@ LC Sir Intellectual Conservative 5th Columnist:
of course. Another dead traitor…a rope would have been better but hey the Lord works in mysterious ways so we take what he gives us (and takes away).
btw, rumor has it Waste Management will be providing the hearse and the burial site.
DJ sez:
Unfortunately with some deceased persons, applying that principle makes you end up with something lile this:
Livia’s Wake (from The Sopranos)
DJ Allyn, ITW said the following:
I have. Two, actually.
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As for MurthaForker, he’s dead. This world is a better place today. The sun is a bit brighter, the birds are singing a bit sweeter, the snow on my shovel is a bit lighter, and I am MUCH happier.
Meanwhile, Hell has actually become a darker place, and the hounds have a new chewtoy.
Deej
Have liberals ever been swayed by examples of grace?
Nope.
It’s way past time to adopt a few of their tactics,, it seems to work very well.
The Saints won the Super Bowl, and now DJ is worried about our souls??? I must be in some sort of hallucinating coma.
Sure and it’s been said, but I’ll say it again anyway. Death does not make a person more or less worthy of respect. If you’ve any more to say than “He’s dead”, say it all. Death is a time for remembrance, so we’ll remember the scum for what he was, not some vague, dishonest “I’m sure he’s going to heaven” crap. He earned himself contempt for as long as his name is remembered.
Now, normally, I’d draw the line at schadenfreude over someone’s afterlife, but this is not normally. This is a bastard who was unrepentant after doing his damnedest to ruin the lives of good men – the best of men. He deserves everything he gets, and yes, I am glad he is no longer sharing sunlight with the heroes he attacked. I don’t expect he’s the sort to receive God’s mercy, and he sure as hell won’t get any from me.
DJ Allyn, ITW said the following:
How did you miss? Were Katherine Harris, butterfly ballots and hanging chads involved?
@ DJ Allyn, ITW:
Jeez, DeeJ, you picked a helluva subject to bust your new years’ resolution over. It’s like getting life in the pen on a third strike for stealing an Abba CD.
Sympathies to Murthafooker’s family, more for having had to live with the shame of association with him, than for his merciful departure from this mortal coil. As someone else said above, death doesn’t make anyone more or less praiseworthy. Its the quality of character in life that’s at issue and there is no way to defend Murthafooker’s lack of good character. He was an opportunistic, crooked, buddy-fuckin’, back-stabbing, treasonous, cowardly POS. There’s one more like him who also needs to go–John Kerry. The only unfortunate thing about Jack-off’s death is that he wasn’t humiliated at the polls and publically castigated by the entire nation before he died. In the scheme of things, he escaped pretty cleanly. Whether he repented in the end is between him and God. Based on his utter refusal to recant his opportunistic, crooked, buddy-fuckin’, back-stabbing, treasonous, cowardly words and deeds, my guess is he’s a plaything for demons. Call it Karma, if you prefer. Losing any soul to Gahenna is sad, but a purposefully lost soul belongs there.
With that, it is, indeed, time to let it go and move forward to replace that cancerous growth with a patriot.
AyUaxe said the following:
You know, it’s not good to keep things bottled up. Tell us how you really feel.
@ DJ Allyn, ITW:
See I disagree, for some reason in our society when someone dies we have been conditioned to “only say nice thngs” about the deceased…. its like we go into automatic revisionist mode by not acknowledging the absolute heinous actions.
See I dont give a fuck how many “good works” someone does in life…. the truly evolved acknowledge and do the right thing with the understanding that doing the right thing (while it may be difficult) IS HOW YOU ARE SUPPOSED ACT, AND DESERVES NO RECOGNITION. You dont get rewarded for doing what you’re supposed to be doing in the first place.
The problem with Murtha calling the Haditha Marines MURDERS is the same as when Bama made his comments regarding the “incident” in Cambridge…. it was a DIRECT INSIGHT into the persons REAL feelings about the subject at hand.
Im my opinion the “evolved” person (having no clue what the fuck that is even supposed to mean) would be logical enough to understand that minimizing someones BAD behavior while maximizing whatever good they did while they were alive is actually the behavior of the UNEVOLVED….. as it is a purposeful MISREPRESENTATION.
I despised the MurthaFucker while he was alive and I despise him dead too. And for me to modify my feelings (at least in thier presentation to the public) WOULD BE A LIE and a perpetuation of the problem.
I AM HAPPY HE IS DEAD…. NOW HE CANT UTTER WORDS that undermine the emotional well being of OUR REAL MARINES. NOW he cant portray a conflict in which by EVERY BENCHMARK we we’re successful in prosecuting, as being UNWINNABLE & IMPROPER. And now he cant participate / support this SOCIALIST FUCK in the WH anymore.
And thats WHY I am GLAD that Murtha is dead.
Thanks Troy,
‘Totally agree, accolades and honors earned can be much much more easily forfeited.
One single heinous act of treason is enough,, but his list of transgressions is verrry lenghty.
Thanks Troy,
‘Totally agree, accolades and honors earned can be much much more easily forfeited.
One single heinous act of treason is enough,, but his list of transgressions is verrry lengthy.
‘Sure could use an edit button..
*sigh*
LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion said the following:
Troy, I am not saying that you have to “honor” the dead, or even say nice, empty things about them. You aren’t seeing ME say anything nice about Murtha are you?
What I am saying is that he should be allowed to die without having figuratively disemboweling him.
I don’t care about his “good works” or “bad works” or which tilts the scale in which direction. I am not his judge, and I am neither happy nor sad in his passing.
I try to go through my life without hating anyone — and if I succeed, then all is good. It doesn’t mean I have to like anyone, just not hate them.
Take Ranger for example, for all of the shit he directs towards me, I don’t hate the guy. I just dislike his behavior. It doesn’t mean I wouldn’t buy him a beer sometime.
As my dear departed mother would say:
“I’d go to his funeral out of respect for his family and to make sure he was truly dead.”
I am tempted to find his grave marker and chisel an X in a choice place or two, though.
Or, maybe replace it with this.
@ LC Mike in Chi: LOVE IT!
@ LC Mike in Chi:
DJ Allyn, ITW said the following:
No, no, I dont see you saying anything nice, but then again I was commenting on societies general handling of such things. I just think that if I thought someboy was complete fucking scumbag before they died (and said as much repeatedly), that my opinion should not change or become “softer” in it delivery. DJ Allyn, ITW said the following:
I think that in the case of our beloved Public Servants that it is appropiate to Judge based on thier actions. Its not the death that Im “celebrating”…… it is the fact that the subject is no longer in a position to cause any more harm that I am celebrating.
And what Im saying why should his death be considered a reason to change my behavior in any way shape or form? Why should he be “allowed” anything? He certainly didnt extend that consideration while alive to others.
DJ Allyn, ITW said the following:
Hate is a very strong word that I reserve for subjects I would just as soon kill as look at. It is a very rare emotion for me, and I think people use the word improperly most of the time.
In regards to Ranger. I am not impressed with his recent behavior and frankly expect better from someone that Calls themselves a Ranger and a Six to boot (meaning team leader). Regardless, if he wants to engage you in the threads…. thats fine….. but if he keeps disrupting the bark with his nonsense….. its gonna piss me off. He has been asked repeatedly not to use the bark as a tool in his feud, yet he continues to do so. In essence not only is he disprespecting himself & you, but he is now disrespecting the other LC’s and if it continues I am going to ask mgmt to address the issue. It is one thing to flame a occaional troll or bicker amongst ourselves occassionaly….. but this ongoing bullshit needs to stop. At least in the context of the bark.
Question for DJ:
How would you apply your policy towards the (hopefully incipient) deaths of either Mullah Omar, Osama bin Laden, Kim John Il, or Robert Mugabe?
Just wondering how much consistency there is here?
Yes — I recognize that most every policy eventually breaks-down if taken to the extreme, but I for one have less respect for a traitor such as John Murtha, than I do for an open enemy such as bin Laden.
If we’re gonna celebrate the man upon his death, we need to recognize the WHOLE man — good and bad, warts and all. By failing to do so, we fail to learn from past mistakes. Such whitewashing hurts us all.
Come on, DJ, live a little. Having someone you hate die is one of life’s great luxuries.
@ anonymous hourly worker:
A Mormon Bishop once asked a group of Mormons during Sunday service ‘How many of you have at least 5 enemies?’ .. five people raised their hand …. then he asked ‘How many of you have no enemies?’ and a man named J. Golden Kimball raised his hand. Now, J. Golden Kimball and I have something n common – we dont know when to shut the hell up most days
.. The Bishop asked Brother Kimball ‘Youre truly an example of Christian forgiveness .. tell us your secret please?’
Brother Kimball stood up and said ‘I am no example of Christian forgiveness … I have just outlived all those sumbitches’
Sorry to disappoint you.
Next time I’ll run my opinion by you before I have one.
LC Sir Intellectual Conservative 5th Columnist said the following:
That is classic …
@ BigDogg:
You can find some info on him here
Probably my favorite Golden Kimball quote is this .. he was sevring as a missionary in the Deep South and ran across some KKK types. He commented on them as ‘a waste of a good sheet’
@ R6:
Look, as I said I expect better. What part of keep that shit off the bark do you not UNDERSTAND?? Thats where my rub comes in. I dont give a FUCK about what you say or do in any other context. So your “opinion” has nothing to do with it.
The fact is, the incident that has got you upset occured 2 months ago.. yet YOU continue to pursue the engagement. I see no productive outcome in your current approach and it has been disruptive to others.
In short your acting like a petulant child….. so just stop….. I have no desire to argue with you. You wanna confirm that the others feel the same way…. ask.. I bet they’ll be more than happy to confirm or deny. But I honestly think that your are intelligent enough to recognize that what Im saying is valid. Short of that, all I’m asking is that you to please keep that shit off the bark. Ok?
Just say NO to DRAMA