Point and Counterpoint

From DrewM:

I know it’s popular on the right (and even among some liberals) to say that Obama’s weakness, as evidenced by his failure to follow through on Syria, emboldened Putin but I don’t buy it.

Recall that in 2008 Vladimir Putin undertook a similar operation in the South Ossetia region of Georgia. Was George W. Bush viewed as weak and vacillating by Putin? Had Bush appeared to the world as week and unwilling to use military force in a crisis?

If Bush’s decisive, unilateral, cowboy persona didn’t lead Putin to lay low, why should we assume that launching a few cruise missiles (remember “just muscular enough not to get mocked”?), would have been a decisive factor in Putin’s Ukraine calculations?

No, it wouldn’t. But was Bush really viewed by anybody other than the Progressive Socialist Media (and the progressive socialists who read them) as a “decisive, unilateral cowboy persona?”

Actually, even they didn’t view him that way, it just made for easy talking points to prop up their jug-eared messiah and his Progressive Socialist Party, but we digress.

Remember the 18 month “rush” to war in Iraq? Remember the vacillating, indecisive back-and-forth waging of the Long War after the occupation of Iraq? Remember “you’re either with us or you’re with the terrorists” (until five minutes later when it turned out that he really didn’t mean it at all)?

Nobody with an IQ above room temperature, NOBODY saw Bush as a strong, decisive leader by 2008. Unless they were smoking some seriously good weed.

And certainly not Putin.

That being said, the point that Odumbass doesn’t completely own America’s new image as a weak horse is absolutely correct. He just kicked our Respect Index down by a couple of orders of magnitude.

But it was already pretty low.



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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    I guess it should be asked:

    “When did you contract Bush Derangement Syndrome?”

    This question is only open to those who did NOT vote Communist Democrat. :em07:

    I’ll go first. For me it was around 2006.

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    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    Hell, Obama probably “suggested” that Putin invade Crimea.

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    Bones growls and barks:

    I think that mine was around 2004 or so, maybe 2005. And as to Putin, who could have ever imagined that he would be looking to his west to expand….hmm, maybe we should have elected them her to office when we had the chance! Wonder when his wonering eye will start looking to his east, where oil and gold is?

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Some liberal birdbrain asked a conservative, “But why would Putin want a warm-water port?”

    :em08: :em08: :em08: :em08: :em08:

    I agree that Bush wasn’t the “balls to the wall” guy that the Leftists assholes tried to paint him as. I mean, he let his wife scold him into retracting the statement that he wanted Osama Bin Liner “dead or alive,” and then was pussy-whipped enough to tell the world that she made him do it.

    Then he told us all to Go Shopping. While he dicked around at the UN asking for a Permission Slip to pretty please, go to partial war.

    But compared to Comrade Zero, Bush clanks when he walks. And at least he LOVES America instead of HATES her.

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    Short and simple summary of what’s happening “over there” from a former Komrade Citizen of that neck of the woods: King Vlad is trying to resurrect the Russian Empire. He is pulling the same shit Stalin did, first with religion, then with appealing to patriotism, now with “reuniting and restoring Russia’s previous might and glory” as well as reuniting with “Our Ukrainian Brothers and Sisters”. Yeah, those same “brothers and sisters” whom YOUR party, Komrade Vladimir Vladimirovich, starved to death by the millions…

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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Obama versus Putin reminds me of the famous Monty Python fish-slapping skit, with Obama playing Eric Idle with the sardines. Slapping Putin delicately across the cheeks as he dances back and forth. Then Putin bowls him off the wharf with a two-foot mackerel.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Blake…that link….explain?

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    LCBrendan @ #:

    Are you really having difficulty interpreting the context of that cartoon?

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    LCBrendan says:

    Blake…that link….explain?

    What my mind interprets to the content of same. Looked at both, that one hit the nail most directly.