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Lunches seized from kids in debt at Salt Lake City elementary

By lisa schencker

Up to 40 kids at Uintah Elementary in Salt Lake City picked up their lunches Tuesday, then watched as the meals were taken and thrown away because of outstanding balances on their accounts — a move that shocked and angered parents.”It was pretty traumatic and humiliating,” said Erica Lukes, whose 11-year-old daughter had her cafeteria lunch taken from her as she stood in line Tuesday at Uintah Elementary School, 1571 E. 1300 South.Lukes said as far as she knew, she was all paid up. “I think it’s despicable,” she said. “These are young children that shouldn’t be punished or humiliated for something the parents obviously need to clear up.”

Jason Olsen, a Salt Lake City District spokesman, said the district’s child-nutrition department became aware that Uintah had a large number of students who owed money for lunches.As a result, the child-nutrition manager visited the school and decided to withhold lunches to deal with the issue, he said. But cafeteria workers weren’t able to see which children owed money until they had already received lunches, Olsen explained.

The workers then took those lunches from the students and threw them away, he said, because once food is served to one student it can’t be served to another Children whose lunches were taken were given milk and fruit instead.Olsen said school officials told the district that their staffers typically tell students about any balances as they go through the lunch line and send home notifications to parents each week.

The district attempted to contact parents with balances via phone Monday and Tuesday, Olsen said, but weren’t able to reach them all before the child-nutrition manager decided to take away the students’ lunches.“Something’s not working, and that’s what the school and child-nutrition department are going to work on together,” Olsen said of the notifications.He said there’s no plan to use the same tactic at other district schools.

    YA THINK???????????????????– B

“This can be easily prevented,” Olsen said. “We need to make sure proper notification goes out to the parents and they have time to put money in the accounts.”But Olsen said he would not describe the tactic as a mistake.”If students were humiliated and upset,” Olsen said, “that’s very unfortunate and not what we wanted to happen.”

    If?? IF?????????????????????????

– B

However, after further investigation, Olsen released an updated statement that was also posted to the district’s Facebook page. It said: “This situation could have and should have been handled in a different manner. We apologize.” The post adds: “We understand the feelings of upset parents and students who say this was an embarrassing and humiliating situation. We again apologize and commit to working with parents in rectifying this situation and to ensuring students are never treated in this manner again.”

Olsen said it’s standard in the district to give kids fruit and milk in lieu of lunch if they don’t have the money to pay for lunch.He said it’s unclear how Uintah had been handling such situations before this week. Attempts to reach Uintah’s principal were unsuccessful.Olsen said the district encourages parents to use its electronic system to pay for lunches and set up email notifications. He said the software for the system is new this year, though it’s not much different than the old one.Lukes said she never received a notification that her daughter would have her lunch taken.

She said it was a difficult day for her daughter and other kids. She said her daughter told her one of the cafeteria workers cried at the sight. And her daughter’s best friend was so upset that she went home Tuesday night and made lunches for all the students who had theirs taken, she said. “You would think in a public school system your child wouldn’t be turned away from lunch,” Lukes said, “especially when people usually settle their balances.”

No word as to whether or not the braindead sonofabitch that gave this order has had their asses FIRED…as they should be.

“You have no money in your account so I’m taking your lunch and throwing it away”.

Took perfectly good food from a child because of an owing balance, threw said food into the bin and THEN gave them fruiit and milk instead.

This, my friends, is whats known in the Aussie lexicon as an act of utter bastardry. Dont know what Utah plans to do…here? If any school did this, they’d wish their great grandmothers had never been born by the time the authorities and parents get done with them.

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sleeper
sleeper

But cafeteria workers weren’t able to see which children owed money until they had already received lunches, Olsen explained. Gonna call bullshit on that one. If they sent a notice, they already knew who owed money. They didn’t have to take the food and throw it away. In fact, they shouldn’t have prepared food for those students in the first… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Taking a meal from the hands of an elementary school child AFTER you have given it to them is the act of scum.

Full stop.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/mitt-romney-is-the-2016-republican-frontrunner-20140130

They are trying to foist Mitt Romney on us a second time… a bunch of people not paying their bills just fails to get my rankles up.

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

Sorry, Brendan, but I just can’t generate any sympathy for the deadbeat parents or their spawn. It probably would have been better if the school had generated a list of those who were not paid up and refused to serve them but that, too, would have been embarrassing for the child. If deadbeat parents don’t want their children embarrassed, then… Read more »

redc1c4
redc1c4

sorry to intrude, but i have a really off the wall idea that might help here.

how about the parents of each child send their kid to school each day with a lunch & a snack?

problem solved.

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

If they do that, Red, Moochelle’s school food gestapo will confiscate their lunches because they aren’t food gestapo approved lunches, and might contain peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Bones
Bones

Ya know, I have been stewing on this one for a while before I answer. If the parents were hurt because their snowflake was embarrassed, well, fuck you. Maybe pay your bills and run a positive balance. Kids didn’t get to eat, damn, I remember reading somewhere’s that the sins of the father being, uh, something something, anybody know what… Read more »

FrankOK
FrankOK

Dishing out the food, taking it away and trashing it then handing out more seems to be a bit more expensive than just allowing the kid to snarf what they were given. Had the “educators” pulled a stunt like this when my daughter was in school, they’d have been paid alright – and then received a rather severe lesson as… Read more »

watchyerlane
watchyerlane

I agree deadbeat parents need to be dealt with but punishing and embarrassing kids for their parents inaction doesn’t quite seem right.
Whoever gave the hideous order to take food from children needs to discover the joys of their Brave and Historic President’s 99 Weeks of Funemployment……

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

Look, the food was already prepared and given out. To take it away and then toss it in the trash is the height of wastefulness! In my son’s school, if my balance is getting low, I get an email notification. If for some reason, I forget to replenish his balance, he is allowed a certain amount (up to $5, I… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Ogrre: what kind of person takes out that kind of issue on a five or six year old? What does a five or six year old know what a “deadbeat” is? Light a fire under the parents, sure, agree. But leave the poor fucking kids alone. They arent involved in this, they arent part of this, they dont have money,… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

LCBrendan says:

What kind of heartless scumbag uses a five year old child as a weapon or “leverage” over their parents, Ogrre? What kind of bottom dwelling sadist threatens to starve a five year old over a fucking BILL?

I think you answered your own question there.

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

You know, Brendan, that is the same argument the libs use when they tell us that we should give the children of illegal aliens all the benefits of citizens. After all, it’s not the kids’ fault their parents broke the law, so they’re entitled to welfare, food stamps, instate tuition, and so on. Why, it just wouldn’t be fair to… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

ou know, Brendan, that is the same argument the libs use when they tell us that we should give the children of illegal aliens all the benefits of citizens. After all, it’s not the kids’ fault their parents broke the law, so they’re entitled to welfare, food stamps, instate tuition, and so on. Why, it just wouldn’t be fair to… Read more »

watchyerlane
watchyerlane

You’re wrong, Ogrre. It is not the same argument as the illegal immigration debate. Well, maybe in a way it is but in either case you win no battles punishing little children whose ONLY crime was being born and being put in that school cafeteria. You want to mete out punishment? Fine but do it in a way where punishment… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

Watch, it is exactly the same. To make adults responsible for their actions is fucking heartless because their little ones might suffer Do I think the school handled it wrong? Yes, I do. The kids should not have been served in the first place. But, if they had used that solution, why the little darlings would not have got to… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Do I think the school handled it wrong? Yes, I do. The kids should not have been served in the first place. But, if they had used that solution, why the little darlings would not have got to have a lunch that day, and they would have been embarrassed and hungry. Ogrre: I dont do this often, actually I cant… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

LCBrendan @ #: Brendan, you do not make excuses for parental neglect, on the chance it might embarrass a five-year old kid. Nor do you excuse criminal behavior of an adult for the same reason. If the parents are that neglectful, perhaps they should have their children taken away from them. Hey, I’ll bet that would embarrass the hell out… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

No one but the parents should be on the hook to feed their kids Do the words “in loco parentis” ring a bell? Or did you fail that part in your bloviations? Here, I’ll explain it to you. The term in loco parentis, Latin for “in the place of a parent”” refers to the legal responsibility of a person or… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

Your “In loco Parentis” argument is only partially true. For example, these days, in this country, a school cannot use corporal punishment on a misbehaving student. The school would be responsible for summoning medical assistance in the case of an emergency. The school is not responsible for providing “three hots and a cot” to the students. STRIKE ONE I was… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

If you had bothered to read the article, there were around 40 children this happened to. None of them were 5 years old. The article mentioned an 11 year old. That would be 5th grade. Making that child skip one meal is not “starving” that child. You are using emotion instead of facts. The principle is the same. You do… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

So, Brendan, you are just fine with theft from the taxpayers if “it’s for the chillllldrennnnn”? You accuse me and others of “holding the children hostage” for the inaction of their parents. You rail against using these school kids as a bargaining chip to force the parents to shoulder their responsibilities, then turn around and do the same thing, use… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

o, Brendan, you are just fine with theft from the taxpayers if “it’s for the chillllldrennnnn”? It’s simple, Ogrre, If a child is hungry, you feed him or her. If they are thirsty you get them something to drink. On a school day where they will be for the entire day, you do not deny them food on the basis… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Ogrrre… Why stop with half measures? Let’s horsewhip the little bastards, and make em walk around with a scarlet “D’ for ‘debtor’ around their necks. Oh, or maybe we could just put them in the stocks for the lunch hour, and let the other children throw scraps at em. Serving them, then yanking it back is stupid, wasteful, -and- cruel.… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

Rogue, just where in my posts do you infer they should horsewhip the little bastards, or any other such nonsense? Making them miss one lunch is suddenly cruel and unusual punishment? Are you nucking futs? If the autopay system is broken (possible), how did the rest of the parents manage to pay their kids’ lunches? The only compromise I would… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

LC Ogrrre @ #: You are acting as if these kids are somehow mooching off taxpayers. Their parents pay for lunches. Some of them just happened to be a little late with payments. They’re not getting lunches free, or at anyone else’s expense. These are kids whose parents pay for their lunch every day. The parents have to pay that… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

Having a child in elementary school currently I see the price way to many children pay for having deadbeat parents. I see parents that qualify for free lunches fail to turn in the forms either cause they are too lazy or drug addled. I’ve got exactly zero problems letting the adults suffer the consequences for their own actions…… but children,… Read more »

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

LCBrendan @14.

Matthew 25:45

One of the Left’s favorite scriptures, typically taken out of context.

LCBren
LCBren

One of the Left’s favorite scriptures, typically taken out of context.

And mine, the day I was sworn into service as a junior emergency services volunteer.

Pro Fide: for the faith

Pro Utilitate Hominem: To the service of Mankind.

Plain, simple compassion.

FrankOK
FrankOK

I keep coming back to this out of disbelief. Taking food away, shitcanning it, then turning around and giving out more. What the fuck – over? These scumsuckers are air thieves, plain and simple. These are the butt nuggets that should be hung up slowly with a wire but our supposed “civilized” society tolerates this manner of trash, drug dealers,… Read more »

If you have ever been the overweight sixth grader because most nights at home you ate home made fried donuts (sugar/flower/oil) because there was nothing else there, who went to school many times and pretended she “forgot” her lunch – AGAIN – then you have a feel for childhood humiliation. In this day and age food shortage is probably a… Read more »

LC R6
LC R6

Ogrrre, I gotta say here buddy, I’ve been hanging out in these parts a long time. Nearly a decade. I’ve seen people come in here and shit on the carpet and get beat like a red haired step child of a black man and then go away (or in very rare cases get banned), but you seem to have crept… Read more »

LC R6
LC R6

Oh, and just so I’m clear, if there are others here that are coming down on ogrrres side of this sorry situation my comments were equally directed at you.

Again, if I’m in the wrong room I’ll let myself out.

FrankOK
FrankOK

LC R6 says: Oh, and just so I’m clear, if there are others here that are coming down on ogrrres side of this sorry situation my comments were equally directed at you. Again, if I’m in the wrong room I’ll let myself out. No, you’re not in the wrong place – children are not to be used as tools to… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

To me, the issue is not whether or not these kids got fed; it was how the thing was approached. If payment had truly been an issue, the children could have been given a small sack lunch, and the parents given a phone call. As Brendan said, you don’t give the kid a tray full of food, only to snatch… Read more »

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

Gentlemen, Gentlemen… you too Nicki, please allow me to split the baby, so to speak. First, it is the responsibility of the parents to feed, cloth, and, yes, even teach their children. But once they delegate that responsibility to the state… in this case the screwel district, they have abdicated responsibility. Or, more delicately put, they paid their property taxes… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Again, if I’m in the wrong room I’ll let myself out. No you are not. As for the rest…..I have never banned anyone from this blog in the many years I have been staff. Misha would tie me up in a dungeon and let BC and Darth Venomous use me for experimentation. If I’m wrong about this community then I’ll… Read more »

LC R6
LC R6

Jesus Christ DEEJ!!!!!

Are you TRYING to bring the world to an end!!!!????

You and I agreeing on something is DANGEROUS to the fabric of space and time!

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

Brenda says: As for the rest…..I have never banned anyone from this blog in the many years I have been staff. Are you kidding me? In my absence a “Speech Code” has been put in place? Why bother even posting this article if you don’t want to hear divergent opinions? Is this still America? Oh. Wait. You ain’t from around… Read more »

Azygos
Azygos

I imagine the other kids who didn’t have their lunches tossed were also upset especially if it was a Moochelle approved lunch. Let’s see. dirty half washed nasty little cabbages (brussel sprouts), bitter arugula salad, and tofurkey with extra soy rich in estrogen sure to decrease any male acting like a male. And maybe for desert Moon Pies, from the… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Are you kidding me? In my absence a “Speech Code” has been put in place? Why bother even posting this article if you don’t want to hear divergent opinions? Is this still America? Oh. Wait. You ain’t from around here, are you boy? Ban my ass first. I’ll wait here. You missed my point completely. I was referring to this… Read more »

LC R6
LC R6

Before this goes further let me point out that I never called for banning anyone at any time and in fact stated clearly that if I found things not to MY liking I would find the door. One of the reasons I have hung in this group so long is that it doesn’t ban except in very rare cases. There… Read more »

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

Brenda says:

And dont call me boy.

OK. I won’t.

LCBren
LCBren

It’s LC Brendan with an n at the end as well.

Hope that helps, LC Moan. 🙂

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

“I don’t understand why any loving parent would subject their child to such treatment by government. School districts are government. Government is force.” Public education is not, or should not be the evil boogyman it has become. Sure it is mismanaged and run by shifty unions ….. it is still needed. I have 3 choices with school, public, a cult… Read more »

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

Slightly says: Public education is not, or should not be the evil boogyman it has become. Sure it is mismanaged and run by shifty unions ….. it is still needed. I have 3 choices with school, public, a cult like private and home school. My wife and I both need to work, I refuse to pay to teach my daughter… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

L.C. Mope says:

Now they have a big push going on to get parent to pay for college for their kids while they are young.

OMG. Say it ain’t so. I have enough trouble with college students TODAY who can’t write or think. Just because you CAN attend college doesn’t mean you SHOULD. :em06:

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

L.C. Mope says: You mean the public school is the only viable option. The other three are still options, just not ones you are willing to take. That’s fine. But in choosing that option you must understand that the curriculum and the methods are chosen by the district. I submit that the public schools I went to had no interest… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

Once again, may I remind folks of the following: These. Children. Are. Not. On. The. Government. Dole. Their parents pay for school lunches (maybe because they feel it’s easier, maybe they don’t have time to pack a lunch, maybe they think the school will provide a more nutritious lunch). But whatever the reason, these folks pay for lunches. Sometimes we… Read more »

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

I don’t disagree with that Nicki, I’m just trying to point out that what you are dealing with is Socialists, and worse socialists with a bit of power. If that cafeteria was run by a capitalist this would never happen because a capitalist would never want to alienate its clients. On a dollar bill you’ll find the words “For all… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

It seems that some of you, Nicki included, just need to quit pretending, and join the McCain/McConnell wing of the Republican party. Make people responsible for their own actions, unless it embarrasses their children. REALLY? This school lunch situation is purely a fee for service situation. If you don’t pay the fee, you don’t get the service. YES, the school… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

L.C. Mope @ #: I totally agree with that. We are, indeed, dealing with socialists. They know how to run absolutely nothing. This doesn’t change the fact that this could have been handled better, but I think that’s part of the whole “They’re socialists,” so they have no fucking clue. LC Ogrrre – Imperial Heartless Bastard says: It seems that… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Ogrre: Im curious. I dont know if you have kids but….if this happened to your kid, would you tell him too bad so sad? Would you say to them “Thats fine you didnt need lunch anyway”?, because if you did say that, I wouldnt be surprised if said kid would then look at you and wonder how many OTHER meals… Read more »

LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard
LC Ogrrre - Imperial Heartless Bastard

Brendan, I had five, and if this had happened to my kid, I would apologize to my kid because MY actions had caused them discomfort. Then, I would have made damn sure I didn’t forget to either pay for their lunch from the school, or I would make damned sure they took their lunch. I would not rail at the… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

I do want to thank you for at least trying to use a reasonable tone this time, as compared to the other times. Ogrre, believe me when I say that I share Nicki’s assessment of you, and your “appreciation of my tone” has all the validity and value of an Obamacare commercial. You may be a good guy, but as… Read more »

LC R6
LC R6

Tell me, does being that fucking stupid hurt?

I started to respond to your diatribe and then realized what a waste of time and typing that would be.

You are simply not worth the effort.

Bones
Bones

Ogrrre, I am going to have to agree with you. It is the parents responsibility to feed their kid, not the schools. The “in loco parentis” argument has some merit, but it ultimately falls to the actual parent(s). I will note that the lunch-room personnel should not have allowed the children to actually even be in teh line unless they… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

Bones @ #: I think you’re missing the point. No one is saying you shouldn’t hold parents responsible. But there are right and wrong ways to handle issues. You shouldn’t handle a delinquent account on a school lunch for an elementary school student the same way you handle a delinquent car or house payment. They’re just not the same situations.… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says: Yeah, because that’s feasible for everyone. Thanks for that Nikki. I would love to not have my child in public school, but those darn house payments keep my wife and I both working. Bones, most of us simply can’t make that work. With that I’m off to spend some quality time in the… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says: Thanks for that Nikki. I would love to not have my child in public school, but those darn house payments keep my wife and I both working. Hey, I’d love to home school my kid, but I’m afraid I’m not bright enough in certain topics like… um… math and science! LOL I’m… Read more »