Stupid is as Stupid does

I can honestly say that I’ve said some really stupid and hurtful shit in my time (mostly under the influence of various beverages) and paid the price.  The difference was it didn’t travel around the globe at warp speed.  Meet the newest member of the Forrest Gump alumni association:

Justin Sacco

Ms Sacco is formerly a PR Director with a large IT firm.  I say formerly because she was fired from her job somewhere over the South Atlantic because of this little act of immature stupidity:

Going to Africa. Hope I don’t get AIDS. Just kidding. I’m white!

10:19 AM – 20 Dec 13

92 comments

  1. 1
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    A good reason to avoid social media if ever there was one.

  2. 2
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    So, they fired her while in the air and unable to defend herself?

    Considering how often this is occurring, I see legal and legislative action in the future. My question would be, was she on company business or on her own dime? That will make a big difference.
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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Whatever happened to people just shrugging it off?

    Oh noes! Someone made a lame joke! Heads must roll!

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:
    angrywebmaster @ #:

    Cube, Webmaster. Freedom of speech doesn’t release you from the freedom of your consequences. We have in this country a bunch of fucking immature children that DEMAND things without working for it and it shows. Lazy doesn’t begin to describe them. She had a great job and she screwed the pooch because she has the thought process of a two year old. I have to stop and think about what I say when I post here, on FB or anywhere else because I’m an adult and I realize words can be brutal.

    That make the difference between an adult and immature brat.

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    angrywebmaster says:

    So, they fired her while in the air and unable to defend herself?
    Considering how often this is occurring, I see legal and legislative action in the future. My question would be, was she on company business or on her own dime? That will make a big difference.
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    Actually it won’t happen. She’s already made a huge mea culpa, apologized profusely up and down to everyone and admitted her post was in bad taste. She’s a PR person with a huge firm and a very public profile. Stupid is, in fact, as stupid does. And her employer is well within his right to shitcan her.
    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Whatever happened to people just shrugging it off?

    Oh noes! Someone made a lame joke! Heads must roll!

    Agreed, but again, given her job… not an option.

    *shrug*

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    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole says:

    She had a great job and she screwed the pooch because she has the thought process of a two year old.

    This.

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    LC Gregory growls and barks:

    Yeah – you can’t shrug this kind of thing off if the person in question works in PR. It’s like an NFL QB losing a leg and thinking he can still play.

    That would be like a city’s Superintendent of Schools coming out and admitting he’s completely functionally illiterate. Oh, wait…

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100304/OPINION03/3040437/Does-DPS-leader-s-writing-send-wrong-message?#ixzz0hEyD5iQk

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    LC Gregory @ #:
    OMG, I don’t even… OMG

    Because… DETROIT!

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    ctually it won’t happen. She’s already made a huge mea culpa, apologized profusely up and down to everyone and admitted her post was in bad taste.

    Oh I agree it was bad taste, and I agree the company has the right to fire her for her stupidity. In her position, she should have known better.

    Question: How many others have thought the exact same thing when traveling to Africa?
    :em07:
    One of the things we’re starting to see is HR departments searching the Internet and using the slightest thing to deny people employment. Considering what people say here, and considering the politically correct nature of most HR drones, the Rott unemployment number must be 250%
    :em08:
    I’ve also been a victim of an HR dept. that found out about angry.net. They used it as an excuse, but claimed it wasn’t why they brought me in.
    Considering that few people knew about the site, and I never used my real name or named the company I worked for, it was obvious that someone decided to “Get me.” This was confirmed by someone I knew inside who found out the details later on.
    (He was so angry with this and other incidents similar to mine he quit)
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    angrywebmaster @ #:
    Oh, I completely agree! Here’s the thing, though. They didn’t have to search anything here. The tweet went all sorts of viral on its own, because a bunch of people who obviously follow her, because she’s a PR exec, were like, “WTF???”

    I would hope my web presence doesn’t affect what I do, because I just don’t discuss things relevant to my job. Ever. Period. I don’t get into party politics, other than to bash both parties for sucking, and I never ever ever ever post anything racist anywhere, because I understand that the Internets are forever (and because I find racism reprehensible, but that’s self-explanatory).

    I keep telling my kid that the Internet is a public forum. It’s like screeching obscenities in a church and expecting no consequences, because you think you’ve got the right. It’s public. It’s out there. Make it private, scream in your room, or just keep your ignorance to yourself. My son had an incident last year where he said something rude about his Spanish teacher on Twitter. It wasn’t anything REALLY inappropriate, but apparently he mentioned a facial tic she had and said it was distracting. Someone who knew her found the Tweet, and guess who got hauled into the Vice Principal’s office! And guess whose very embarrassed mom got a call. And guess who had to explain AGAIN to the child, who screamed about freedom of speech, that freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. And guess who forced the ginger child to apologize to his teacher and make it right.

    Yeah… Children.

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    LC Old Dog growls and barks:

    The immediate reaction of the PC Police against anything they can find is amazing! :em08:

    This is exactly why I never use anything close to my real name or exact profession anywhere on the Internet to and including at my place! :em04:
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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    My mother taught me, before I spoke, to put myself in the other persons shoes and THINK about I was saying. Not PC censorship but good old fashioned responsibility.

    I remember one incident during my cousins wedding that my mother told me about. It was a Catholic wedding so the bride and groom had to go down on their knees and my uncle blurts out “he’s got a goddamn hole in his shoe.”

    A WWII combat veteran of the Bulge and my grandmother screamed at him like Drill Instructor for an hour. He spent days apologizing to all who were there but they still remembered.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    I would hope my web presence doesn’t affect what I do, because I just don’t discuss things relevant to my job. Ever. Period. I don’t get into party politics, other than to bash both parties for sucking, and I never ever ever ever post anything racist anywhere, because I understand that the Internets are forever (and because I find racism reprehensible, but that’s self-explanatory).

    I don’t talk much politics in my Real World Job either. A few months ago I was working with someone from Corporate to close down my old office. (Surplus due to acquisitions)
    We both dropped slight hints and when we realized we were “Great Minds” (We thought alike), we had a great time discussing things like CCW holsters and preferred firearms. (With Obama, there was a lot of snarling an eye rolling)
    :em01:
    As to racism? I freely admit I am a racist. I believe in the supremacy of the Human Race over all other life forms on the planet.
    :em05:
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    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    My mother taught me, before I spoke, to put myself in the other persons shoes and THINK about I was saying. Not PC censorship but good old fashioned responsibility.
    I remember one incident during my cousins wedding that my mother told me about. It was a Catholic wedding so the bride and groom had to go down on their knees and my uncle blurts out “he’s got a goddamn hole in his shoe.”
    A WWII combat veteran of the Bulge and my grandmother screamed at him like Drill Instructor for an hour. He spent days apologizing to all who were there but they still remembered.

    Yes, sir! I absolutely agree with your mom. It’s just common sense and decency.

    angrywebmaster says:

    We both dropped slight hints and when we realized we were “Great Minds” (We thought alike), we had a great time discussing things like CCW holsters and preferred firearms. (With Obama, there was a lot of snarling an eye rolling)

    I’ve met quite a few like-minded individuals where I work, but we generally just friend each other on Facebook or email from our private accounts – or discuss whatever we want to discuss in person! There’s just no need to take that to work. Who has time for that, anyway!

    angrywebmaster says:

    As to racism? I freely admit I am a racist. I believe in the supremacy of the Human Race over all other life forms on the planet.

    I freely admit most dogs I’ve met are much superior to most humans! :em07:

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    I freely admit most dogs I’ve met are much superior to most humans!

    My wife thinks dogs are man’s best meal. :em05:
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    angrywebmaster says:

    My wife thinks dogs are man’s best meal.

    LMAO!!!!!

    :em05:

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    Yep, there is nothing like a nice hot dish of stir fried Fido with a nice side of Fluffy…Szechuan style of course.
    :em05:
    :em01:
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    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    Nothing ever before devised by man has been as effective at encouraging the self-identification of blithering idiots as Twitter. This example is purely ho-hum run of the mill stuff from what passes as this generation’s illuminati. Such spectacular spin-outs are daily occurrences there.

    Using no more than 140 characters, these paragons of cognitive complexity manage to immolate their careers and carefully cultivated professional personas with a single tweet. This is easily the most efficient form of stupid I have ever seen. It’s like someone with no arms accidentally shooting themselves in the head.

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    LC SecondMouse says:

    Nothing ever before devised by man has been as effective at encouraging the self-identification of blithering idiots as Twitter. This example is purely ho-hum run of the mill stuff from what passes as this generation’s illuminati. Such spectacular spin-outs are daily occurrences there.

    Using no more than 140 characters, these paragons of cognitive complexity manage to immolate their careers and carefully cultivated professional personas with a single tweet. This is easily the most efficient form of stupid I have ever seen. It’s like someone with no arms accidentally shooting themselves in the head.

    well said sir, now can you do it in 140 characters or less?

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC SecondMouse @ #:

    Nothing ever before devised by man has been as effective at encouraging the self-identification of blithering idiots as Twitter.

    Really? What about this?
    :em08:
    Or this?
    :em08:
    Or possibly this?
    :em06:
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    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    LC SecondMouse says:
    Nothing ever before devised by man has been as effective at encouraging the self-identification of blithering idiots as Twitter. This example is purely ho-hum run of the mill stuff from what passes as this generation’s illuminati. Such spectacular spin-outs are daily occurrences there.
    Using no more than 140 characters, these paragons of cognitive complexity manage to immolate their careers and carefully cultivated professional personas with a single tweet. This is easily the most efficient form of stupid I have ever seen. It’s like someone with no arms accidentally shooting themselves in the head.
    well said sir, now can you do it in 140 characters or less?

    Yeah. Twitter sucks.
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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Lets see. We the AMERICAN TAX PAYER pay millions to do what? Teach blacks how to wash their cocks after they have slept with prostitutes. What continent is this happening on?

    African.

    I guess sometimes the truth hurts. It may have been perceived as stupid but maybe because the truth hurts. But maybe her employer would rather her lie?

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Bet she can find a job doing youtube videos to promote Jugg-Ear’s titanic fail of a commie health-care program. She could not be any worse than the drool-cup squad he’s got now…

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Library Czar says:

    Lets see. We the AMERICAN TAX PAYER pay millions to do what? Teach blacks how to wash their cocks after they have slept with prostitutes. What continent is this happening on?

    African.

    I guess sometimes the truth hurts. It may have been perceived as stupid but maybe because the truth hurts. But maybe her employer would rather her lie?

    Careful – some on here might call you racist. But youre a female so she will probably give you a pass.

  25. 25
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Good thing Bruce didnt say #22

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    WHY is the comment edit inoperative?

  27. 27
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Are you still crying over your poor lost pet Moby named bruce? Pull out your Kotex and quit blubbering Gladiola.

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    LC Gladiator says:

    Library Czar says:
    Lets see. We the AMERICAN TAX PAYER pay millions to do what? Teach blacks how to wash their cocks after they have slept with prostitutes. What continent is this happening on?
    African.
    I guess sometimes the truth hurts. It may have been perceived as stupid but maybe because the truth hurts. But maybe her employer would rather her lie?
    Careful – some on here might call you racist. But youre a female so she will probably give you a pass.

    He’s talking about research funds we give to AFRICA. Duh.
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    Rhiain growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:
    Careful – some on here might call you racist. But youre a female so she will probably give you a pass.

    Dude, that was SO two days ago.

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    LC Gladiator says:

    Good thing Bruce didnt say #22

    LC Gladiator says:

    Careful – some on here might call you racist. But youre a female so she will probably give you a pass.

    Merry Christmas man, I’ll be sure to mention you in my prayers tonight.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #:

    Freedom of speech doesn’t release you from the freedom of your consequences.

    Where did I say that it did?

    I’m an adult and I realize words can be brutal.

    That make the difference between an adult and immature brat.

    If you find her words to be “brutal”, life outside of a convent/monastery may be a bit too rough for you. Part of being an adult is also realizing when it is important to react strongly and/or punish, and when you can just let something slide, or address it with soft touch.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    Agreed, but again, given her job… not an option.

    Testify, sister! Anyone who works in a job with a strong PR component must be fired if they say anything offensive

    - Reverend Jesse “All the hymies in Hymietown” Jackson
    President of the United States Barack “bitter clingers” Obama

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    Fa Cube Itches says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    Agreed, but again, given her job… not an option.
    Testify, sister! Anyone who works in a job with a strong PR component must be fired if they say anything offensive
    - Reverend Jesse “All the hymies in Hymietown” Jackson
    President of the United States Barack “bitter clingers” Obama

    Stupid statement. Having come from a PR background, I can tell you that everything you do is under a microscope and everything you do represents your company and your client. You may not like it or agree with it, but it is fact. But if it gives your tiny little penis a centennial rise to compare me to two foul, race baiting shitbags, consider it my Christmas gift to you and carry on.
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    LCSgtmech growls and barks:

    Well, I don’t think they fired her because they found what she posted offensive. I think they did it because they realized what an idiot, and liability she was to them. I mean, if you have someone in PUBLIC RELATIONS stupid enough to post shit like that, what the hell kind of damage is she capable of inflicting on the company? I think they were completely justified in shitcanning her, just for more practical reasons.

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    LCSgtmech @ #:
    BINGO!
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    LC/IB PrimEviL growls and barks:

    There once was a book: How to Win Friends and Influence People. Obviously, she never read it.
    I was raised by opinionated outspoken people, but they knew, and taught me– there’s a time and place to
    jack your jaws, and others not.

    In this case I must agree with the employer. A PR pro would post such a thing on twitter? That’s weapons
    grade stupid, right there. Anyone that dumb is a liability, and must go, before getting the company sued
    into bankruptcy, and everyone in it made a business pariah.

    Even as a lowly working stiff, every contract I worked under had a clause stating that conduct which may
    embarrass or harm the company is cause for immediate dismissal.
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    LC hilljohnny growls and barks:

    just to make sure everyone is paranoid enough, you not only need to watch what you post but also what you don’t post. I have read where the book of faces can keep a record of what you type and delete without posting.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    I can tell you that everything you do is under a microscope and everything you do represents your company and your client.

    Except when it isn’t. If your questionable comment targets the right people, it will be be forgotten, if not praised. Even assuming arguendo that it is held against the speaker, it does nothing to change a very salient fact about modern America: people need to harden the fuck up. It was a weak attempt at a joke – nothing more – and can and should be disregarded. It’s not dishonest, and it’s not hateful; it’s just weak. I care nothing for what happened to her – I don’t know the lady, so she means nothing to me one way or the other. However, the fact that this sort of thing is often a national story – from Reagan’s “bombing will begin in 5 minutes” joke, to Imus’ “nappy-headed hos” joke, to John Kerry’s “stuck in Iraq” joke, and beyond, is pathetic. Most of this stuff deserves nothing more than a derisive snort, a shake of the head, and an immediate consignment to oblivion.

    But if it gives your tiny little penis a centennial rise to compare me to two foul, race baiting shitbags, consider it my Christmas gift to you and carry on.

    Hmmm- so setting aside your utter reading comprehension fail [the comment compared you to no one - it simply showed two people, who were THE spokesmen for organizations with significant media exposure, who made far worse comments than the lady in question and suffered nothing for it], you don’t seem to appear overly concerned with how your rather indecorous comments will make your employer look. Further, I’d imagine you suffer no consequences for it. The world will shrug and keep right on spinning, as it should.

    However, since ad hominem appears to be your preferred form of goodwill this Christmas day, allow me to return the gift: Until their quick and timely demises, pain and suffering to all you hold dear, with your final memory of each being them cursing your name before your God with their final agonized scream. There – now we’ve been rude to each other to no real point or purpose. Huzzahs all around, I guess. Or maybe wailing and rending of garments. Whatever makes everyone happy.

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    Fa Cube Itches says:

    It was a weak attempt at a joke – nothing more – and can and should be disregarded. It’s not dishonest, and it’s not hateful; it’s just weak. I care nothing for what happened to her – I don’t know the lady, so she means nothing to me one way or the other. However, the fact that this sort of thing is often a national story – from Reagan’s “bombing will begin in 5 minutes” joke, to Imus’ “nappy-headed hos” joke, to John Kerry’s “stuck in Iraq” joke, and beyond, is pathetic. Most of this stuff deserves nothing more than a derisive snort, a shake of the head, and an immediate consignment to oblivion.

    I agree, but that’s not the way the PR works. And frankly, it’s not up to us to judge the employer’s actions. With the advent of the 24 hour news cycle and the social media, there’s no longer such a thing as a lame joke. She had a following on Twitter. She tweeted something stupid and insensitive. It went viral. I don’t think this should have been a national story, just like I don’t think the Duck thing should have been a national story. The very first thing I said about it was, “Why is this news?” Again… we may not like it, but that’s the nature of the world today. Words have consequences. She suffered hers.

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Hmmm- so setting aside your utter reading comprehension fail [the comment compared you to no one - it simply showed two people, who were THE spokesmen for organizations with significant media exposure, who made far worse comments than the lady in question and suffered nothing for it],

    Sure didn’t seem that way.

    Testify, sister! Anyone who works in a job with a strong PR component must be fired if they say anything offensive

    - Reverend Jesse “All the hymies in Hymietown” Jackson
    President of the United States Barack “bitter clingers” Obama

    If you didn’t mean it this way, I apologize.

    you don’t seem to appear overly concerned with how your rather indecorous comments will make your employer look.

    Considering neither you, nor anyone else knows where I work, I find that infinitely amusing!

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    However, since ad hominem appears to be your preferred form of goodwill this Christmas day, allow me to return the gift: Until their quick and timely demises, pain and suffering to all you hold dear, with your final memory of each being them cursing your name before your God with their final agonized scream. There – now we’ve been rude to each other to no real point or purpose. Huzzahs all around, I guess. Or maybe wailing and rending of garments. Whatever makes everyone happy.

    Ad hominem: a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.

    Considering that I was responding to a perceived comparison to two of the nastiest race-bating shitbags I know by someone who completely misrepresented or failed to comprehend my words for no other reason than it turned him on to do so, I’d say the definition does not apply. And while I do use ad hominem on occasion just for fun, this wasn’t one of those times. But again, I’m glad you got a warm fuzzy.
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    Fa Cube Itches says:

    However, since ad hominem appears to be your preferred form of goodwill this Christmas day, allow me to return the gift: Until their quick and timely demises, pain and suffering to all you hold dear, with your final memory of each being them cursing your name before your God with their final agonized scream.

    wow, really? wishing that on someone’s loved ones is a little extreme,

    Karma’s a bitch man, after saying something as crude and vile as that I hope you get to meet her up close and personal

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    Karma’s a bitch man, after saying something as crude and vile as that I hope you get to meet her up close and personal

    :em01:

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    LC/IB PrimEviL says:

    There once was a book: How to Win Friends and Influence People. Obviously, she never read it.
    I was raised by opinionated outspoken people, but they knew, and taught me– there’s a time and place to
    jack your jaws, and others not.

    There was also this stuff called Lava soap. Apparently she didn’t get to taste that stuff growing up.

    In this case I must agree with the employer. A PR pro would post such a thing on twitter? That’s weapons
    grade stupid, right there. Anyone that dumb is a liability, and must go, before getting the company sued
    into bankruptcy, and everyone in it made a business pariah.

    Even as a lowly working stiff, every contract I worked under had a clause stating that conduct which may
    embarrass or harm the company is cause for immediate dismissal.

    Just like the idiot finance executive who harassed a Chik-fil-A worker in a drive through and videotaped it. Or some idiot who bitch slaps a punk kid on the slope who is wearing a Go-Pro. Seriously…it is amazing how oblivious people are.

    And a “PR” professional…putting something stupid on Twitter…uh, okay. She obviously doesn’t understand the art of Public Relations.

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    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Until their quick and timely demises, pain and suffering to all you hold dear, with your final memory of each being them cursing your name before your God with their final agonized scream.

    one more thing, A good friend of mine and a long time Rottie who is a far far better man and patriot than you can ever hope to be lost his little special needs daughter last night, she was the world to him. Think about that the next time you wish for the suffering and the deaths of somebody else’s loved ones…..

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    …did I somehow wander off into bizzarro world… I’ve been reading this site for years longer than I’ve been posting, and never seen people so quick to get angry over what someone else is saying… to be honest it just seems out of character, so much so that I am beginning to wonder (75% tongue-in-cheek, 25% seriously), if some accounts got hijacked? Pouring over some older posts, it’s quite a contrast in disposition.

    I’ve seen flame fests and gang bangs, but the last few weeks reads differently to me. There’s been plenty of conflict since I started reading almost 5 years ago, but I’ve never seen the long-time people tearing into each other and “meaning it” to this degree before. To the point of actually hating one another.

    I’ve been deliberately laying off the provocative commentary for a bit, hoping that some of the wounds between the long-timers might knit up some – yeah, I’ve got my agenda, but nowhere on that list is tearing apart old friends. For all that good that’s doing.

    Anyhow, just noting some concerning trends.

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    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    Fa Cube Itches says:
    Until their quick and timely demises, pain and suffering to all you hold dear, with your final memory of each being them cursing your name before your God with their final agonized scream.
    one more thing, A good friend of mine and a long time Rottie who is a far far better man and patriot than you can ever hope to be lost his little special needs daughter last night, she was the world to him. Think about that the next time you wish for the suffering and the deaths of somebody else’s loved ones…..

    He won’t. Why bother. I guess I hit a raw nerve with that miniscule penis comment. Truth hurts.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    I’ve been reading this site for years longer than I’ve been posting, and never seen people so quick to get angry over what someone else is saying… to be honest it just seems out of character, so much so that I am beginning to wonder (75% tongue-in-cheek, 25% seriously), if some accounts got hijacked? Pouring over some older posts, it’s quite a contrast in disposition.

    Tempers are raw. We, who have been friends for a long time, been part of this community, are seeing it dissolve before our eyes, and we don’t like what we are seeing. Haven’t for a long time. And I know you don’t want to think of yourself as part of the problem, but I’m being honest and serious when I say you are. A lot of us are. We stopped talking. Many of us just left, because we didn’t like what we saw being posted here. We stopped posting rebuttals to posts, and just let people spew. It became enervating and exhausting. We stopped thinking and started reacting, or just left. And I include myself in that group. I’m sorry, but debating why advocating murder and stringing people from light poles is wrong is exhausting, and it’s not a debate we should be having. Debating the semantics of phrases like “typical n*gger behavior” is sad, and it’s a debate we shouldn’t even be having! It makes me sad more than anything to have to debate that kind of stuff in the first place.

    So yeah, people react. I react. I react harshly at times. We want that group dynamic back. We want that camaraderie back. We want to be able to hurl insults at each other and still walk away friends in the end without wishing ill on each others’ loved ones or casting aspersions on each others’ lives and military service! We want to call one another pernicious cunts and still laugh about it in the end. We want to have a good ole fashioned flame war and still respect and love one another.

    No one hijacked our accounts. Something hijacked our site. Not any particular single person, but something. And we want it back.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    I’ve seen flame fests and gang bangs

    I have been here for a long time, and I can definitively say there has NEVER been a gang bang here! I love these folks, but… um… :em06:
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

    there’s a few of us old timers who are hurting for a good friend and fellow Rottie who lost his daughter last night. The comment to Nicki was not even what I would call inappropriate…..I really don’t know what I’d call it. If you wish to defend it in your lawlerly fashion, by all means do so, just keep in mind how you would feel if it was said about your family and loved ones.

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    So yeah, people react. I react. I react harshly at times. We want that group dynamic back. We want that camaraderie back. We want to be able to hurl insults at each other and still walk away friends in the end without wishing ill on each others’ loved ones or casting aspersions on each others’ lives and military service! We want to call one another pernicious cunts and still laugh about it in the end. We want to have a good ole fashioned flame war and still respect and love one another.

    No one hijacked our accounts. Something hijacked our site. Not any particular single person, but something. And we want it back.

    roger that……

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    I have been here for a long time, and I can definitively say there has NEVER been a gang bang here! I love these folks, but… um…

    I swore you were the one running the video camera… :em07:

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    I swore you were the one running the video camera…

    I thought she was the one whipping the hell out of the rest of us……. :em03:

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    I thought she was the one whipping the hell out of the rest of us…

    That was N@, you know how evil she is. :em05:

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    I thought she was the one whipping the hell out of the rest of us…

    That was N@, you know how evil she is.

    my memory is a little foggy of the actual event. Please tell me that the girls weren’t from BC’s dating service……I mean I’ve seen the pictures of them.

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    There may have been a couple, but they had nice personalities :em08:

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    There may have been a couple, but they had nice personalities

    ONe of them had a good singing voice, that much I do remember……..really a nice deep baritone, lovely.

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    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:
    There may have been a couple, but they had nice personalities

    ONe of them had a good singing voice, that much I do remember……..really a nice deep baritone, lovely.

    And five o’clock shadow. On “her” ass.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Note to self: Buy brain bleach.
    Addendum: Look up where to buy brain bleach.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Note to self: Buy brain bleach.
    Addendum: Look up where to buy brain bleach.

    Here you go. You’re welcome.
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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    I have to be honest, reading the end of this thread. I’ve left the Rott and come back several times, because even though sometimes I feel like I just don’t necessarily fit in with this group, the fact is that I think of this group as the generally nicest and most caring bunch of people I’ve never quite fit in with.

    So most of the time I just lurk. And these past few threads have me going “wait what? Why are we at each other’s throats again?” So pardon me while I stick my nose in where it doesn’t necessarily belong….

    I think I know why the comment to Nicki doesn’t work. The part about someone losing his special needs daughter last night is absolutely appropriate. The part about being a better patriot than her and turning the comment into a dead-serious insult wasn’t really necessary to make the point.

    The problem with having knock-down-drag-out flame wars and remaining friends is that sooner or later, someone’s going to hit a nerve with someone else, and it’s going to turn dead serious for real. If we want to remain friends, there’s got to be a mutually-agreed-on stopping point, a line nobody is willing to cross. Reading back through the threads, it sounds like some lines got crossed.
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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR says:

    I think I know why the comment to Nicki doesn’t work. The part about someone losing his special needs daughter last night is absolutely appropriate. The part about being a better patriot than her and turning the comment into a dead-serious insult wasn’t really necessary to make the point.

    I didn’t direct that at Nicki, I directed at Fa Cube’s comment about wishing suffering and demise upon HER loved ones.Just Another Random Nut, GLOR says:

    The problem with having knock-down-drag-out flame wars and remaining friends is that sooner or later, someone’s going to hit a nerve with someone else, and it’s going to turn dead serious for real. If we want to remain friends, there’s got to be a mutually-agreed-on stopping point, a line nobody is willing to cross. Reading back through the threads, it sounds like some lines got crossed.

    you’re right about that. There was a discussion among some of us old timers here. A lot of us have kind of drifted away from the Rott for pretty much the same reason, most of the comments from newer members did nothing but advocate for eliminating a good portion of the population of this country and tearing it down, put in the random racist comment here and there and we just got tired of it. Back in the day, there was discussion and solutions and humor…..not so anymore…..it was just “kill them all” 24/7……gets old after a while and does nothing to promote what I love about the Rott, the comraderie, the off color humor, the sense of community. It was just a few internet warriors that monopolized the threads with their eliminationist statements.

    So, a few of us old timers got together and decided to get active here again, countering what we thought were racist or extreme statements and trying to bring back discussion and debate and answers to what ails this country. We want to censor no one, but we will voice our opinions and dissent….individually or as a group…..

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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

    Oh. My bad! I misinterpreted based on an admittedly cursory read. Completely agree that that kind of junk is not necessary and should not be acceptable here, but I think lines got crossed on all sides. Thanks, that rundown really helps me understand what happened. Any community that will stay together has to know what it stands for — and what it won’t stand for. It sounds like that’s gotten lost.

    So if the community is to come back together, and we’re going to have debate like we used to, there have got to be some ground rules and some lines you just don’t cross – and anyone crossing that line too many times gets shown the door. That’s what we have moderators for :) We never had them before because the lines were unspoken and everyone knew what they were, but now we have to spell it out in little letters for the brain-damaged among us :)
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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR says:

    So if the community is to come back together, and we’re going to have debate like we used to, there have got to be some ground rules and some lines you just don’t cross – and anyone crossing that line too many times gets shown the door. That’s what we have moderators for We never had them before because the lines were unspoken and everyone knew what they were, but now we have to spell it out in little letters for the brain-damaged among us

    no not at all, none of us are calling for banning anyone based on what they say…..I’ve been here since around 2000 or something like that, the only people that I have seen banned are the ones that really REALLY get on Darth Venomous’s nerves :em05: . He wields a heavy sword.

    I think that overtly racist comments or comments calling for violence against the president or things like that should be a red flag as this site, like probably all eeeeeeevil right wing sites, is being monitored….that you can bet on. I hang out on a Civil War blog, there are many many discussions going on there, one standing rule is that we don’t discuss modern politics…..EVER…..unless it pertains to a topic like park preservation or something like that. The moderators will flag a thread and either issue a few warnings about content or lock the thread down preventing commenting.

    We can police ourselves, and that is all we are doing. Many of us old timers just kind of drifted away when the “kill them all, and tear it down” crowd monopolized things around here. We missed the place and decided to get involved again…..

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Id do her

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    LC R6 growls and barks:

    the off color humor

    racist.

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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Id do her

    Are you 15, or just trying to avoid having the closet door ripped open on you? :em05:

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    BigDogg – Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) says:

    LC Gladiator says:
    Id do her

    Are you 15, or just trying to avoid having the closet door ripped open on you?

    OMFG!!!!

    :em05:
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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    Holy shit. I think Lil’ Gladdy just got cunt-punted. :em04:

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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    (begins to reach for Management™ hat)

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    Darth Venomous says:

    (begins to reach for Management™ hat)

    Darth, how broadly will that be applied?

    are you only upset with those of us who are currently raising hell here or is it going to go for comments like this:

    And BTW can someone tell the disingenuous, pathetic, lying, anti-American, know-it-all, constantly dying lunatic that the edit button doesn’t work?

    that’s just as bad as anything anyone else has said…..

    just curious as to why this bothers you sir

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Oy Vey.
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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    Darth, how broadly will that be applied?

    I would just as soon it not be applied at all, sir. Really have better things to do at the moment, y’know?

    are you only upset with those of us who are currently raising hell here or is it going to go for comments like this:

    When it becomes all “comments like this”, all the time. I imagine you’ll have a bit better point. OTOH, I also imagine that he whom said that, having read this, can take a hint, and “govern himself accordingly”, as it were.

    But I do seem to remember saying something to the effect of things getting tiresome, and that seems to have been ignored somehow.

    just curious as to why this bothers you sir

    Do you guys remember about six years ago or so when Deej & I got into it? Hammers, tongs, teeth, nails, all that? There were kiddie scripts, deleted comments, lot of wailing & gnashing of those teeth? Several folks expressing how tired they were getting of seeing it every day? Remember that?

    Are you saying I don’t have the same right to be tired of this?

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    Darth Venomous says:

    Are you saying I don’t have the same right to be tired of this?

    You have every right to be tired of it, just like a lot of us old timers that were abandoning the Rott have the right to be tired of the comments calling for something similar to a final solution in this country and racist comments. That stuff chased a lot of us away if you hadn’t noticed. We, as a group (of which you were invited to be a part) decided to counter that stuff and bring something resembling the old livelier Rott back. I think we succeeded, look at the roster of commenters, a lot of the old timers are back. Some of us are a little more “colorful” with our language, but it’s nothing anyone on this site hasn’t seen before…..

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    BigDogg – Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) says:

    Are you 15, or just trying to avoid having the closet door ripped open on you?

    Sorry Impotent Puppy, I misspoke. I should have said, “I did your wife, but she was such a LOUSY, disease ridden lay that i quit and let my doberman have her. And he said she stunk too! Satisfied?

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    BigDogg – Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) @ #:
    Based on that last desperate attempt at appearing straight, I’d say 15 AND in the closet! Just wait until those closet doors bust open and Gladyaateherasshole prances out in a tiara and a feather boa belting out Ethel Merman tunes! It shall be EPIC!
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    BigDogg – Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) @ #:
    Based on that last desperate attempt at appearing straight, I’d say 15 AND in the closet! Just wait until those closet doors bust open and Gladyaateherasshole prances out in a tiara and a feather boa belting out Ethel Merman tunes! It shall be EPIC!
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    Shaddup you UGLY BITCH, this aint your fight

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    LC Gladiator says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:
    BigDogg – Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) @ #:
    Based on that last desperate attempt at appearing straight, I’d say 15 AND in the closet! Just wait until those closet doors bust open and Gladyaateherasshole prances out in a tiara and a feather boa belting out Ethel Merman tunes! It shall be EPIC!
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    Shaddup you UGLY BITCH, this aint your fight

    Speaking of impotent!

    :em05:
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nickis daughter NO DOUBT

    AP) Marines delay female fitness plan after half fail
    By PAULINE JELINEK
    Associated Press
    WASHINGTON
    More than half of female Marines in boot camp can’t do three pullups, the minimum standard that was supposed to take effect with the new year, prompting the Marine Corps to delay the requirement, part of the process of equalizing physical standards to integrate women into combat jobs.

    The delay rekindled sharp debate in the military on the question of whether women have the physical strength for some military jobs, as service branches move toward opening thousands of combat roles to them in 2016.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/02/Marines-delay-female-fitness-plan-after-half-fail

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    LC Gladiator says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nickis daughter NO DOUBT
    AP) Marines delay female fitness plan after half fail
    By PAULINE JELINEK
    Associated Press
    WASHINGTON
    More than half of female Marines in boot camp can’t do three pullups, the minimum standard that was supposed to take effect with the new year, prompting the Marine Corps to delay the requirement, part of the process of equalizing physical standards to integrate women into combat jobs.
    The delay rekindled sharp debate in the military on the question of whether women have the physical strength for some military jobs, as service branches move toward opening thousands of combat roles to them in 2016.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/02/Marines-delay-female-fitness-plan-after-half-fail

    Awwww. Trying to get me riled up by making fun of my kid! Classy!

    Your hatred for women makes it clearer and clearer how much you actually prefer cock and how inadequate that makes you feel! Most gay guys I know would point and laugh at your tiny impotence too, so I can see why you’re so angry.
    :em05:
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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    As for “impotent” … methinks though art fixated on PENIS.

    As for the rest of your … “comeback” … you’ve confirmed my suspicions about your age (or at least maturity) and misogony.

    You do realize, don’t you, that a great number of gladiators enjoyed PENIS? They were, essentially, prisoners. What do lonely males in prison do?

    Finally, I would stick to cut and pasting other people’s work. Your original work just doesn’t … work.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nickis daughter NO DOUBT

    And…

    LC Gladiator says:

    “I did your wife, but she was such a LOUSY, disease ridden lay that i quit and let my doberman have her. And he said she stunk too! Satisfied?

    Remember LC Hoghead?

    We have this rule about “say anything you want, but keep family out of it” around here and have had it since forever. It hasn’t been enforced a while since there’s been no need.

    Don’t create that need.

    I don’t have a habit of repeating myself either. Just saying.
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:
    MISHA…anytime you want me to leave just ask. Nicki has violated that rule tons of times. Hopefully you are not a hypocrite

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:
    MISHA…anytime you want me to leave just ask. Nicki has violated that rule tons of times. Hopefully you are not a hypocriteEmperor Misha I says:

    LC Gladiator says:
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nickis daughter NO DOUBT
    And…
    LC Gladiator says:
    “I did your wife, but she was such a LOUSY, disease ridden lay that i quit and let my doberman have her. And he said she stunk too! Satisfied?
    Remember LC Hoghead?
    We have this rule about “say anything you want, but keep family out of it” around here and have had it since forever. It hasn’t been enforced a while since there’s been no need.
    Don’t create that need.
    I don’t have a habit of repeating myself either. Just saying.
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    PS- Ive given MUCH MORE then Ive taken here, NO?

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    MISHA…anytime you want me to leave just ask.

    You will, I hope, note that I made no such request. Had I felt it necessary, it would not be in the form of a request in the first place. This is a fair notification.

    LC Gladiator says:

    Nicki has violated that rule tons of times.

    She has? If she has, and I may well have missed it, please let me know so I can address those violations in the very same terms. No exceptions for anybody.
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    You aren’t very smart, are you?

    LC Gladiator says:

    Nicki has violated that rule tons of times

    When have I dragged anyone’s family into an argument, jagoff?

    But your continued pissing in the sandbox is telling.

    LC Gladiator says:

    PS- Ive given MUCH MORE then Ive taken here, NO?

    Translation: Oh, please approve of me! Please!

    You’re a sad little person with an inferiority complex that was so insecure in his masculinity, he had to dredge up a pretty much dead thread and start all over with repugnant insults to someone’s wife? Really?

    Do yourself a favor and slink away. Slowly and quietly.
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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Wow. I think Big Dogg overestimated the age/maturity thing by about 8 years.

    Waaaahhhhhh! She did too…please, call me the waaaambulance!

    And copying and pasting other people’s work is not giving. Claiming it as something of a personal contribution is borderline plagiarism.

    Pathetic!

    Nicki, I almost hope he sticks around. With the exception of the “your mama” equivalent playground insults, it is amusing to watch this thing get all lathered up…in a train wreck sort of way. Kind of like why I was bummed when the news reported Kayne West said he would shut up for a while. Supposed men who act like this…amuse and entertain me.

    And instead of going after the man…he has to go after his wife. Definitely a pattern of issues with women.

    And to save Ms Gladiola a reply, I’ll do it for her:

    Harpie!!!11!!!eleventy!!! UGLY bitch!!11!!! Suck my TicTac…er, I mean penis.

    I think that covers it Richard, so you don’t have to say a thing.

    LMAO

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    Yep. Still waiting on concrete examples of the “tons of times” I’ve violated that rule. Should be copious examples of said violations, right? Still waiting…..
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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    Wow … you guys are giving it up the ass to Gaydiator. Of course, he does seem to invite that upon himself.

    You do realize, don’t you Girliehater, that today’s society actually lavishes praise upon those – such as yourself – that actually come out voluntarily? Hell, you might even get invited to the White House to give Zero a Lewinsky.

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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    PS- Ive given MUCH MORE then Ive taken here, NO?

    In the adult world, that is what is referred to as “kissing ass” … or, to put it in terms you’d be more familiar with, “sucking dick.”

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    Well there was the one time when you…errrh, wait that wasn’t you. Ok how about the time you said that…no, sorry, that wasn’t you either. Ok I got nothing

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    Well there was the one time when you…errrh, wait that wasn’t you. Ok how about the time you said that…no, sorry, that wasn’t you either. Ok I got nothing

    Yeah, that was all me… except it wasn’t. Or something.
    :em05:
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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    Can we just throw everyone naked in a mudpit and bring in a cooler full of beer to watch? :em01:
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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR says:

    Can we just throw everyone naked in a mudpit and bring in a cooler full of beer to watch?
    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR recently posted..I really shouldn’t laugh.

    Dude! You do know that cold mud makes PENIS shrink, right? Gladyaateherasshole just can’t afford the loss!
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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    (grabs the Management™ hat)

    EDIT: (…and puts it on head)

    That’s. Enough.

    This flame war is over.

    I am closing this thread. And I expect something at least mildly resembling a half-ounce of decorum to reassert itself.

    No, no one’s going to get banned. I don’t do that to LCs, ever. Besides, Misha would have my ass on a platter if I ever did that.

    But if this continues, I am not above handing out “vacations”. If you don’t believe me, ask Muzzy.

    Glad, please stand down and let’s not have any more bringing folks’ families into it, mkay? That really is a rule (brought about by the late (access-wise, anyway)), unlameted Hoghead. I’d hate to see Misha bounce you because of it.

    The rest of you…you sound like a fucking high-school sophomore-girls’ clique. Continue it somewhere else.

    That. Is. All™.

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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    Dude! You do know that cold mud makes PENIS shrink, right? Gladyaateherasshole just can’t afford the loss!

    In addition to that, the mud would camouflage any assholes that he might be targeting.