Whack!

What was that sound? Me. Whacking a hornet nest.

So now that I’ve gone and done that…..At one point in the recent post that went some 190+ replies and featured an all out virtual version of a PayPerView  WWE cage match I made the following comment:

I must be slipping behind the times, as I for one, like Niki, didn’t even know what the hell “TNB” meant – but I will posit that until the “culture” of the inner cities where the murder rates are sky rocketing – gang violence is epidemic – out of wedlock births are the norm, then the simple fact of the matter is that same self “culture” in fact is helping to perpetuate that sort of thing all on it’s own. Add in a resentment of people who probably are seeing their tax dollars go down a black hole, and all the while things continually grow worse and worse in the all sorts of “communities” – and you just kick started the “racism” nuclear reactor.

While I am on the subject of “resentment”, While taken from what I see as the wrong side of the ideological divide – Obama wasn’t completely wrong with his “bitter clingers” remarks. There IS bitterness in areas of the country like the rust belt and deep south. Is it racism ? That’s probably a stretch, but does that “bitterness” in turn help to foster racism… you can bank on it.

But where Obama is wrong, he has to couch it differently not just as a “white bible thumper” issue, because it cuts both ways. To be stereo typical here – Blacks in the rust belt are every fucking bit just as bitter as any white in the south, because of things like diminished economic opportunity. So they blame the “White man” for “keeping them down”. The White Man looks at 60 years of “social justice” and “war on poverty” as the abject failures that they have become and …bing….blames the Black for being a bunch of “TNB’s”, and ……your racism reactor hums right along merrily with power to spare, sadly…..because we have an idjit like Obama on center stage saying STUPID shit and the gullible eat it up with a spoon. *snip*

Now – after some heavy back and forth between people some whom I greatly respect, some I simply nod and say hello to- although admittedly have never met, I thought that I had said my opinion and I had nothing more to add. But….

I’ve thought that through some more and now, I’ve realized that maybe I do in fact have some more things to add to that various topic.

Anyhow, The entire argument can be divided into pretty much 2 viewpoints or “camps” if you will  – was the word or Internet Slang used by a poster “TNB” Racist?

Camp A. Says firmly it was without a doubt “Racisim”

Camp B. Says no, it doesn’t meet the criteria for actual “Racisim”.

Side note here : I’m purposely withholding posters names – not so much in an effort to protect anyone, but more in an effort that a casual passerby would get curious and go to the aforementioned thread and read it and it’s comments in it’s entirety – since the concept of the reputation of the blog was also a topic of discussion. In other words – More or less, I’m trying to get one to digest the entire scope of the argument and view first hand what was said, then draw whatever conclusions. Minus the devolution into the Penis jokes. Of course.

Now – what provoked this add on post is taking a day and digesting some of what was said and giving it some thought – Oh there was a 3-4 hour period of sleep – some actual work, a nice afternoon nap – and then time spent watching the Steelers Kick some Cheesehead ass in the frozen waste land known as Lambough Field …Neener. (If that doesn’t provoke a flame war on here – you all need to head to the retirement home and start gumming your toast and talking to long dead relations.)

I digress – No, what provoked this post, and probably will send that Nuclear Reactor called Racism back into a near melt down was the realization that – there’s a whole lot of  (in my view) “if standards are good – double standards are even better” going on. And it’s happened here numerous times, as well as on individual blogs, and it seems to be an accepted practice just about anywhere.

Various Posters in Camp A, whom again – I have deep respect for, went critical mass over the use of the short hand “TNB”

Take note here as well, I’m not taking a side, rather, I consider the source of where that particular term came from, and well frankly it isn’t, IMO really worth even a second glance. Monkeys flinging poo at the zoo may prove vastly more entertaining – if not a bit more messy.

Yet all the same, a few clicks and some reading find some folks firing off nuclear tipped salvos with terms like “Redneck” in it. Again, here on this very site, and on other sites associated here as well as out in the “real world” it seems A-okay when the term “Redneck” is employed with out so much as nary a raised eyebrow.

Wait, let me get this straight. “TNB” is racist but calling a white man “Redneck” isn’t?  Anyone care to explain to me just how that works?

Doesn’t that smack of a double standard here?

Or do we go down that rabbit hole of “it can’t be racist because it is only used about white people”?

Frankly I am oft times rather rankled to see it, and have been in the past on here, because again, I have deep abiding respect for most of the posters – and I expected better – from those that lit off this Nuclear conflagration. But at the same time – I had the “if you’re going to talk the talk you need to walk the walk” moment as well.

Calling someone “Redneck” is racist. Turning around and nuking someone for the same thing directed at a another race is, to put it gently, a double standard.

Lest I am misunderstood …. I’m not here to pass judgement – if I did, then I did without malice, but the BLUF here (Milspeak for “Bottom Line Up Front), is simply,  careful how high in that ivory tower you climb, the higher you get, the further you may fall.

And Oh, by the way, before the “whiny sissy-boi” “Grow a pair” long knives come out, yes, I seized on one single racial term, “RedNeck” and yes I am ‘White’ and said it was just as bad as “TNB”, but go on, call me a redneck, a hillbilly, monkey, white trash, nigger, spic, mullet head, wetback, mick, faggot, cracker, ugly, bastard, pussy, dick, cock, bitch, honky, wop, motherfucker, fuckhead, fucker, fat, skinny, skinhead, whore, man-whore, slut, dork, dweeb, nerd, Nazi, Jew, rag-head….. I could go on for probably hundreds of words, some not in English even, (since after 20 years abroad I can cuss you out in almost dozen languages…Yay me!)…. But feel free. Have at it.

You know why? You don’t sign my paycheck, and you don’t pay my bills,  so I could give a damn. And even if you DID? I probably still wouldn’t give a gnats ass …..Quite frankly, the whole “hurtful words” schtick is WAY over-hyped emoting and utter nonsense as far as I am concerned – There are even words and phrases .. many of them like “Knee Grow” nonsensical and meaningless yet it’s offensive? Who comes up with this crap, really?

Alas, In a polite society – none of them would ever be uttered ever again, no matter in what context. People would be dare I say it, be more “enlightened” and considerate especially when behind the anonymity of a keyboard ….but what the fuck do you expect when we live is a cesspool madhouse where Miley Cyrus humping a wrecking ball and Brittany Spears flashing her well used beaver is considered news, or the height of entertainment….

It’s about the Boobs! er, I mean principle folks. That’s all.

 

71 comments

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Why do I have the feeling I should yell out “INCOMING!!! TAKE COVER!!!” ????
    :em03:
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    angrywebmaster says:

    Why do I have the feeling I should yell out “INCOMING!!! TAKE COVER!!!” ????

    angrywebmaster recently posted..Democrats reject NSA court rulings

    LOL..No shit.
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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    I would love to agree with you, cause heaven knows we’ve seen plenty of racism come out of folks like Sharpton and Jackson, through actors and musicians, even down to low level gang thugs. I just don’t see a racial component to the term “Redneck”, is it usually directed at white folk……sure it is, doesn’t make it racial. Say the name “Santa Claus” and most folks will think of a fat white guy with a big beard and red suit, doesn’t mean there is a racial component to the name Santa.

    On the other hand, “TNB” comes loaded with racial connotations. (And yes, I’ve heard the argument that it is not racial in places or with different generations, but for most of the planet it is nothing but racism) If you were comparing it with words like “Cracker” or “Honkey” then you’d have something.

    As to how we got here….. I can’t disagree. People, no matter their skin tone have a tendency to be categorize and blame the folks that don’t look like them for their problems. It’s lazy and ignorant, but it is a part of human nature we need to combat. The fix can often be painful, but it must be done. Racism needs be called out by folks that look like the offending party. It is tilting at windmills for someone with my Scottish ancestry to call out black racism, I will not waste the time. However if I see it coming from someone who can put an X in my check block on government forms….. I’m gonna heckle them. I cheered loudly when I read the smackdown on the other thread. It was right and proper.

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    Woo hoo! Lunch hour! :em01:

    This is an interesting piece, Snarl. My two cents…

    I think there’s a lot to be said for context and intent. When someone says “robbery, rape, etc. is typical n****r behavior,” there is a definite claim that blacks as a race are prone to said behavior. This isn’t a cultural reference. It’s a reference to behavior by a specific race.

    I had to look up the REAL definition of “redneck” in the dictionary, and quite frankly, I was surprised that it specifically defined a “redneck” as someone white. My use and understanding of it has always been that it’s a cultural thing: someone uneducated, uncultured, straight from Assfuck, Mississippi. The origination is from someone who spends a lot of time in the field and gets their neck burned – someone who knows little else, and therefore is uncultured, racist, ignorant, etc. Every time I’ve seen Redneck used, it was used as a cultural reference, not a racial one. I may be wrong there, but intent is a lot of it – for me anyway.

    In a lot of ways, this is like that old definition of “pornography,” where the judge says, “I may not know how to define it, but I know it when I see it.” Probably a bit subjective, but there you have it.

    And Oh, by the way, before the “whiny sissy-boi” “Grow a pair” long knives come out, yes, I seized on one single racial term, “RedNeck” and yes I am ‘White’ and said it was just as bad as “TNB”, but go on, call me a redneck, a hillbilly, monkey, white trash, nigger, spic, mullet head, wetback, mick, faggot, cracker, ugly, bastard, pussy, dick, cock, bitch, honky, wop, motherfucker, fuckhead, fucker, fat, skinny, skinhead, whore, man-whore, slut, dork, dweeb, nerd, Nazi, Jew, rag-head….. I could go on for probably hundreds of words, some not in English even, (since after 20 years abroad I can cuss you out in almost dozen languages…Yay me!)…. But feel free. Have at it.

    That’s an impressive array of racial epithets, there. I’m impressed. :)

    For me, the language that describes one race as superior to another brings up connotations I don’t care to remember. Persecution in the USSR… the Nazi Holocaust (and no, I’m not trying to Godwin myself out of the conversation). But fact of the matter is that such words do matter. Such propaganda does matter. The more mainstream these types of racial stereotypes become, the more engrained they become in the minds of people. Fact is poverty and violence are not race issues. They’re cultural ones. So to ascribe them to TNB is to claim that blacks as a race are inferior because of these issues – that somehow they’re endemic to being black as part of their race, instead of their culture. So yes, I do have visceral reactions to such speech. I’ve seen it personally turn into hell for a lot of people. It’s affected me. It’s affected my family. It’s a personal issue.

    Quite frankly, the whole “hurtful words” schtick is WAY over-hyped emoting and utter nonsense as far as I am concerned – There are even words and phrases .. many of them like “Knee Grow” nonsensical and meaningless yet it’s offensive? Who comes up with this crap, really?

    I’ll reiterate what I said above. I will also add there is a fine line that keeps getting blurred on the whole “offense” issue. I hate these words. More than you could possibly know. But I will defend to the death someone who utters them – no matter how repugnant they are – from government persecution. No one should use government force to punish insults to their petty widdle feewings. But I’m not government. And I reserve the right to call a spade a spade when it comes to barely literate, racist swill.

    OK… back to work!
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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    Methinks there art far too many people with far too much time on their hands.

    Don’t like a troll … don’t feed him.

    Don’t like what a troll says … refute him.

    Miss intellectual discussion and dialogue … start one.

    Miss quality fisking of stupid statements and articles … start fisking.

    Think you’re light years ahead of others here intellectually or in terms of life experience … you’re not.

    Think that dropping hints that you’re a “lawyer” or an “operator” or an “expert” of any sort means a damn thing to anyone else here …. it doesn’t, because there’s at least several more here that just don’t feel the need to advertise such things to puff themselves up.

    Get a clue, folks … this place is an outlet, and the only person it “belongs” to is Misha. Pissing contests over who “belongs” here, or “represents” this site, are foolish wastes of time. Stop … take a second and look over your shoulder, out the window … that’s life going on outside. It doesn’t give a rat’s ass about what someone says at the Rott, or who won the flame war, or whatever.

    Think about someone you love … then go spend the two hours you would otherwise waste with meaningless, vapid banter here with that someone.

    /SIDEBAR – Raiders of the Lost Penis

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    Indiana Jones and the last penis?

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Indiana Jones and the Crystal Penis.

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    Were I a racist, I might mention that I hate it’s white half even more. :em03:
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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    Indiana Jones and the last penis?

    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says:

    Indiana Jones and the Crystal Penis.

    I can’t believe I did all this writing only to be besieged with Penis jokes… Well shit.

    I can’t believe noooooone pulled this old rabbit out of the hat yet….

    “My Penis has a first name… it’s O-s-c-a-r ….. :em05:
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    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    Now, before I get started, I’d just like to say, I’ve got black friends, A black man married my first cousin (and nobody in my family cared, and -everyone- came to the wedding. ). I don’t have an issue with black people. In my head, I don’t see a person and think “oh a black person.” I look, and see “oh.. a person. Who happens to be black.” If you dont understand the difference between the two, I probably can’t help you.

    I think the idea of judging people based on their genotype is laughable absurd.

    I -fully- expect people to have the shrieking shits, and call me a racist, and demand my head on a stick. We can’t have a conversation about race in this country, without people freaking the fuck out.

    That having been said, I’m now gonna mention the elephant in the room.

    Stereotypes do not come into existance in a vacuum. So now I’m gonna talk about black people in broad strokes. Yes, I’m absolutely aware that ‘not all black people are like that’. The problem is, a frighteningly large number of black people -are- like that. And it’s a problem that needs to be resolved somehow. Personally, I’d like to see something non violent, and inclusive, sort of a ‘hey, we’re all americans, we’re all humans, let’s stop being dumb’ moment, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen.

    Blacks commit real crime (rape, robbery, murder, you know -real- crimes) at a rate that is really out of poportion to their population numbers. Sure, a lot of it is ‘victimless crime’ involving drugs, but a lot of it -isn’t- victimless. I’m not gonna argue it, I’m not gonna post links. Google it yerself.

    Blacks are also rather brutally racist, on a level non-blacks can barely fathom. Examples abound if you wish to look. Again, google it your own damn self.

    The problem is getting worse, too. ‘Rob-mobs’, the knock-out game… the list goes on. and institutionalized racism, to boot. We don’t have a ‘National association for the advancement of white people’ That would be racist, right? But the NAAP is just peachy, because well… you’re racist for saying that, citizen, Zampolit, take him away!

    the ‘white’ america has been oozing white guilt for decades, giving out entitlement programs, affirmative action, the list is long. All in an attempt to fix the problem.

    The only thing it’s created is a bunch of angry, entitled people who think it’s ok to descriminate against others who don’t have the same skin color.

    Now, is this because of their genetics? is this shitty behavior endemic of the ‘black race’? Don’t be absurd. Of course it’s not. It has nothing to do with their race.

    Even worse, the ‘white guilt’ faction -tells them this behavior is acceptable-. They make excuses, oh lord, do they make excuses.

    It has everything to do with their -culture-. I’ll say it again, cause some people are a little slow on the uptake.

    It’s not Race, It’s Culture.

    It is not because of their Race, it is because of their Culture.

    It’s not the Race, it’s the Culture.

    It’s that nasty, fucked up, needs-to-be-eliminated ‘ghetto’ culture.

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    Penis of the Caribbean
    Penis Island
    Smokey and the Penis
    The Godpenis
    Penis 9 from Outer Space
    Penis Trek
    Penis Wars
    12 Penises
    :em07:

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    Rhiain growls and barks:

    I’ve never been racially discriminated against.

    When Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act was struck down by the Supreme Court earlier this year, I didn’t understand why some of the black civil rights groups – plus Holder, Obama, etc ad nauseum – were so up in arms about it. I even said I didn’t understand why on my FB page, and was surprised when one of my black friends from OR responded with reasons why striking down S5 was such a bad thing. Her response included personal experiences of racial discrimination from the past and present, plus her reasons for believing why certain states have a requirement for voter ID is also bad. (And then she unfriended me, which was just as surprising. Of course, it could’ve been my gun rights posts that set her off, too, since she was formerly a CT native.)

    Anyway – having had no experience with racial discrimination (and technically, I’m a minority), I don’t make assumptions about terms like “redneck” and “cracker,” and I sure as hell don’t use them. I can understand why it’d be bad to use the term “nigger” around a black person, etc etc.

    Seriously, though, part of me wonders why people are proclaiming that this is the Post-Racial Era when they keep whining about how racial discrimination still affects them, and seems to traumatize them, too, to a degree. If we want to move past this, they need to get over themselves. It’s almost 2014. Want to stop racism? Don’t act like you still live in 1955. The racism of today could be easily overcome if, like DJ says, we maintain some optimism about the future. It could die a quicker death if we didn’t resurrect it over the dumbest things.

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    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician says:

    Were I a racist, I might mention that I hate it’s white half even more.
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    black half/white half……..

    no matter to me, I just hates it. period

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    I related a story to Nicki about racism a few days ago and will tell it here.

    I was born and raised in Colorado in a very racist household. My father routinely threw the word nigger around, he used it constantly. He claimed to hate blacks and had nothing good to say about them. I crossed swords with him all the time about this and eventually gave up trying as I knew I would never change him outlook. I decided instead that I would not be like that, I spent my teen years hunting with the rednecks in my high school and then spent evenings hanging with the black kids, I hung out with everyone…didn’t matter if they were black/white/brown/purple/green…..it didn’t matter.

    When I moved to Wa state in 1982 and eventually got married and we had kids, we would take the boys down to Colorado to visit their grandparents. My dad used the word nigger in front of my boys on one of those early trips, I told him that it was OK if he used it in front of me….I can forgive that….but if he ever used it in front of my boys again it would be the last time he ever saw them. He never used it again, not in front of me not in front of anyone, ever again.

    He owned a construction company with his brothers, they ran it right as they were always busy specializing in insurance work on houses damaged by fire or storms. The company was located in a really bad, really poor part of Denver, comprised mostly of blacks and hispanics. My Dad and his brothers would go around the streets and recruit the locals to work for them, they gave a lot of jobs to people who normally had no job prospects. His foreman was this big black really smart really hard working guy who worked for my Dad for close to 25 years. Most of my Dad’s crews were black or hispanic and he treated them all very well, most of them stayed with him for years. I worked for him in the summers during high school and college, worked as the only white kid on many of these crews….as the owners son, they usually gave me the shit work but I did it and didn’t complain, they were good guys and when I proved myself they gave the shit work to the next new guy.

    When my Dad retired, he gave that big black foreman part ownership in the company. He just gave it to him, no down payment no nothing…..that’s how my Dad treated his employees. So for all the racist bluster, he showed the size of his heart by how he treated these guys that worked for him. So, I don’t know, I guess he was all talk as his actions spoke louder than those words.

    Racism is something I hate, on both sides, many of the problems in the black communities today can be attributed to the slave mentality of their democRat representatives. They have no interest in solving the problems of gangs, or drugs, or the breakup of the African American family, they need to keep these people down and dependant for their job security. That’s why racists like Jackson and Sharpton and Farrakhan always stir up crap in situations like the Trayvon case and ignore the massacres happening in their own back yards….there’s no money in that and it will put them out of a job if they fix it. They and the democRat politicians are 21st century slave masters, owning these people through welfare and other entitlement programs that reward subservience and punish independence.

    Dred Scott and the thousands of black veterans who fought and died in the Civil War are turning over in their graves at how little has been achieved by their sacrifice…….

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Roguetek says:

    Blacks commit real crime (rape, robbery, murder, you know -real- crimes) at a rate that is really out of poportion to their population numbers. Sure, a lot of it is ‘victimless crime’ involving drugs, but a lot of it -isn’t- victimless. I’m not gonna argue it, I’m not gonna post links. Google it yerself.

    Blacks are also rather brutally racist, on a level non-blacks can barely fathom. Examples abound if you wish to look. Again, google it your own damn self.

    THAt was EXACTLY Hemps point, which he was eviscerated for expressing !

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent says:

    pulled this old rabbit out of the hat yet….

    So are rabbit & hat now synonyms for who-ha and Va-jay-jay? And pulling out doesn’t work. :em05:

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    My parents (both gone now) didn’t have strong opinions re: things like race but my grandfather was very specific about that issue. The exact words were: “I don’t care what color a person is as long as they don’t act like a nigger – they come in all colors.”

    His definition had more to do with actions than appearance and that’s the way I believe to this day also. Besides the colloquial/racist interpretation of today, a dictionary (years ago) once defined the word as “a lazy and shiftless person” – within that particular definition, no mention of race was made. – still, not a point I’d like to argue in some areas so I don’t use the word often at all.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Forgive this poor old sod that like many, is a naturalized citizen with what I thought was an acceptably wide vocabulary, alas this seems to be a misconception on my part that TNB could mean tri nitro benzene or an acronym for some industrial product..

    Somehow I get the distinct impression that chemicals have nothing to do with whatever it is that has caused a hornet cloud and that it somehow has to do with race?

    Can someone clue this old fart in on the current slang usage in a way so as not to offend the gods of the copybook heading?

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    “Typical Nigger Behaviour”

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Natasha: if a fullgrown man wears a fig leafm, does that mean a dwarf wears a tea leaf? :em06:

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    FrankOK says:

    The exact words were: “I don’t care what color a person is as long as they don’t act like a nigger – they come in all colors.”

    His definition had more to do with actions than appearance and that’s the way I believe to this day also. Besides the colloquial/racist interpretation of today, a dictionary (years ago) once defined the word as “a lazy and shiftless person” – within that particular definition, no mention of race was made.

    BRUCES POINT EXACTLY

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    BITOA growls and barks:

    I told my kid , if you see anyone sneaking up to you with intent to harm you, kill them.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    His exact words were

    He also knows how to rob rape and murder that is just tnb”

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Thanks Brendan, now it makes total sense.

    My dad was kind of direct in many things, one of which is that he always stated that there are men, some of which are black and there are “nigg**s” and not all of which are black. Seems to parallel other descriptions here.

    Shiftless slackers are the universal residents of the lower bell curve of human behaviour.

    I just think the U.S. with that bastard socialist LBJ at the helm cemented the growth of that segment in exchange for votes. Looks like we are finally at the end of that road and the correction is going to be painful for all of us, especially the lower strata. God help us as we deal with this.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Roguetek, thank you for emphasizing a very important point. Stereotypes exist for a reason, and they can die a natural death or evolve, as circumstances change. The older, traditional stereotype of the wimpy, cowardly Jew died somewhere during the 1950s and was laid to rest in the Sinai in 1967. But stereotypes also can be reinforced by other members of the group. If you defend someone who looks a lot like you when he does bad behavior, don’t be surprised when you take ownership of that mischief. And if you belong to a particular group, which has been adopted by self-appointed spokesmen, giving you a group identity, “your” spokesmen have burdened you with the need to dissociate yourself from such spokesmen or activities or bear the stereotype. Right now that applies not only to Ethnics, but also to our “Gender Minorities”. This is just the other side of group pride.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    FrankOK and Terrapod, I have heard those other ones referred to as “wiggers” or must that be “w!##ers”? And they’re absolutely the lowest of the low – voluntary choice and no excuses. About two stages beneath Po’whitetrash with nothing else in between.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Bill Quick today on Daily Pundit mentioned that nothing bad happens when you open a can of worms. He’s correct. This is not a can of worms.

    It’s a can of hornets.

    Lord of the Penis: The Foreskin of the Cock-Ring

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    The Two Towers… wait a second… I didn’t have to do anything to that one…

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    LC Gregory growls and barks:

    How has no-one yet referred to ex-lefty Robert Downey Jr’s great work in Iron Penis?

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    The newest movie out – 47 Penises.

    I’m dreaming of a white penis… is that racist?
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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    I know where this “term” is in wide use.

    Unless the Rott supplies me with the following:

    A Mark Ten industrial survival suit complete with independent oxygen supply and triple polymer body shielding,
    Six Mark Eight canisters of disinfectant and a suitable high capacity HAZMAT decontamination and purification system,
    Six months supply of brain bleach and a gauranteed thirty session psychoanalyst regimen,
    A part of Mark Fifteen HAZMAT boots with quadruple insoles.
    and
    a gauranteed immediate dustoff by an armed and armoured Dominator assault helicopter

    I AM NOT GOING THERE TO SHOW YOU EXAMPLES.

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    LCBrendan @ #:
    Lemme guess. Some Stormfront site?
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    A Mark Ten industrial survival suit complete with independent oxygen supply and triple polymer body shielding,
    Six Mark Eight canisters of disinfectant and a suitable high capacity HAZMAT decontamination and purification system,
    Six months supply of brain bleach and a gauranteed thirty session psychoanalyst regimen,
    A part of Mark Fifteen HAZMAT boots with quadruple insoles.
    and
    a gauranteed immediate dustoff by an armed and armoured Dominator assault helicopter

    You caught me at a bad time, budget blown on Christmas presents

    That does not mean I can’t help… give me a moment…

    Ok then… counter-offer…

    How about an 8×8 poly-tarp (w\rivets), a half empty container of Canned Air PC duster, a box of cling wrap, 2 half empty bottles of Windex and 409, a used painter’s mask, some calcium hyperchlorite pool cleaner, a well loved pair of Redwing work-boots, (w\odor-eaters), $5.00 in taxi-fare, and a self help booklet from 1977 – (like new). I’ll throw in 10 yards of paracord… er I mean… “structural integrity maintenance cordage” for free.

  34. 34
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Lemme guess. Some Stormfront site?

    Worse.

    How about an 8×8 poly-tarp (w\rivets), a half empty container of Canned Air PC duster, a box of cling wrap, 2 half empty bottles of Windex and 409, a used painter’s mask, some calcium hyperchlorite pool cleaner, a well loved pair of Redwing work-boots, (w\odor-eaters), $5.00 in taxi-fare, and a self help booklet from 1977 – (like new). I’ll throw in 10 yards of paracord… er I mean… “structural integrity maintenance cordage” for free.

    Hemp: what part of “This little black duck dont do suicide runs” did you miss? :em05: :em05:

  35. 35

    LCBrendan @ #:
    What the hell could possibly be worse than THAT?!?
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  36. 36
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    BTW can anyone tell me why I am no longer staff here? My dashboard access is gone.

    [Brendan, the version of WordPress got updated to the latest 3.8 last night (yeah, blame me, I'm the one who did the update). May have been something in 3.8 that busted you back, not sure. Not the only damned thing wrong with 3.8, either, from the looks of things.

    Anyway, you've been restored. -Spats]

  37. 37
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    What the hell could possibly be worse than THAT?!?

    I refuse to give them any bandwidth, I refuse to name it. Not here, anyway Were we to speak privately, I will tell you. But I wont and dont like the idea of anyone looking over there, even just to see what it is.

  38. 38
    Special Ed growls and barks:

    The pumpkin pies were fantastic, as always. I make the best.

    Oh, the racism thing?

    If you have a problem, then YOU have a problem. What are YOU going to do about YOUR problem?

  39. 39
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Hemp: what part of “This little black duck dont do suicide runs” did you miss?

    Oh come on you won’t die…

    Instantly.

  40. 40
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Oh come on you won’t die…

    Instantly.

    I intend to die at a severe old age, cackling at the nurses and making sure they dont find my stash of vintage Hustler magazines :em01:

  41. 41
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    I’m dreaming of a white penis… is that racist?

    Racist AND heteronormative! Denounce yourself!

    My fucking inbox is already overflowing with protest mails from GLAAD and everybody who ever worked for the non-FOX media because of that comment!

    And… A Fistful of Penis.
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  42. 42
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Misha: sent you an email.

    My dashboard access is gone?

  43. 43
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    “Go with the flow” by Mr P.Niss of California :em05:

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LCBrendan says:

    Misha: sent you an email.

    My dashboard access is gone?

    No it’s not.

    It’s just that this wondrous, fantastic, absolutely must have WordPress Upgrade did what every single other upgrade in the history of software upgrades did, which is to fuck up things beyond repair.

    So your dashboard access is right where the edit function that we used to have, not to mention the quick links on the left sidebar that we also used to have, which is to say up the ass of some WordPress idjit who couldn’t code his way out of a wet paper bag. If he could, he’d be having an actual paying job. As it is, he’s still trying to figure out if he can get a girl pregnant by whacking off on the pencil stub he stole out of her backpack.

    Because most coders spent their formative years trying to look up what an “orgasm” was while trying to stuff as many Cheetos into their pimpled faces as they could, thus making it impossible for them to absorb the old adage of “if it ain’t broke, DON’T FIX IT, you fuckheads!”

    Our very diligent staff is working hard on fixing those neutered, non-gendered pajamaboys’ latest fuckup. In the meantime, you can get to the back end by using the Edit link at the top of any post, then use the links that will pop up on the left. If you have access to that, which you do.

    Those who don’t will just have to wait for the drooling WordPress fucktards to actually come up with an update that doesn’t create more problems than it “solves.”

    At least now we know who designed, really, healthcare.gov.

    Awesome, WordPress, you’re now officially the most inept hacks in the history of hacks. Quite the accomplishment.

    Now die in a fire.
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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    At least now we know who designed, really, healthcare.gov.

    No they didnt.

    It was designed by Mr A. P.Pendage of Great Britain. He stuffed it up as he was in a hurry to register and be able to claim his two dependents :em05: :em05: :em05:

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    Brendan, I getcha. If it’s THAT bad, I’m not sure I want to know. When I was doing radio and the Phelps Phelchers were just gaining notoriety, I got curious and looked them up. I became physically sick. As in went to the bathroom and threw up.

    Mish, I denounce myself. There may be self-flagellation (and no, that’s not dirty, you pervs!) :)
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  47. 47

    Oh, and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Penis.
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  48. 48
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    Brendan, log out, then back in and let me know if the Dashboard comes back, mkay?

  49. 49
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Darth Venomous @ #:

    Brendan, log out, then back in and let me know if the Dashboard comes back, mkay?

    If that doesn’t work, and you are on a PC, the open a command prompt and type the following

    c:\
    Hit enter key
    Format C:\ /Y
    :em01:
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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    Reservoir Dongs?

  51. 51

    angrywebmaster says:

    c:\
    Hit enter key
    Format C:\ /Y

    Let me guess…. Mac user ?
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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent @ #:

    Let me guess…. Mac user ?

    Byte your tongue!
    :em07:
    The only Apple products in this household are of the round fruity variety and product derivatives of the same. The one exception is my wife’s Iphone. However, she gets a pass since she has it set up to work in Chinese. I call it an Ifong.
    :em05:
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  53. 53

    ^^^^ :em05: :em05:
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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Brendan, log out, then back in and let me know if the Dashboard comes back, mkay?

    No go, Darth. Sorry.

  55. 55
    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    You are a bunch of sick puppies. That’s why I love ya.

  56. 56
    LC hilljohnny growls and barks:

    LCBrendan says:

    Unless the Rott supplies me with the following:
    A Mark Ten industrial survival suit complete with independent oxygen supply and triple polymer body shielding,
    Six Mark Eight canisters of disinfectant and a suitable high capacity HAZMAT decontamination and purification system,
    Six months supply of brain bleach and a gauranteed thirty session psychoanalyst regimen,
    A part of Mark Fifteen HAZMAT boots with quadruple insoles.
    and
    a gauranteed immediate dustoff by an armed and armoured Dominator assault helicopter
    I AM NOT GOING THERE TO SHOW YOU EXAMPLES.

    come on dude, you act like you were looking at B.B’s links.

  57. 57
    LC hilljohnny growls and barks:

    whoops, meant B.C. :p

  58. 58
    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology growls and barks:

    Might this entity-which-shan’t-be-named have anything to do with a Futaba Channel-based image/b/oard?

    Penis Begins
    The Dark Penis
    The Dark Penis Rises

  59. 59
    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    Well, slap me silly and ccall me Doofus, but I didn’t know what TNB meant either, Terrapod! And I’m a Native. Or maybe a Natural-Born Idiot.

    Angry Webmaster, for some of us the command is ” cd / ; rm -r *.* ” (as root, of course, but you can try it with other logins.)

    47 shades of Penis

    Ah, yes, the Wonderful World of Upgrades That Function BETTER Than The Older Version. Welcome to Support. Take some Xanax.

    Back to work.
    :em01:

  60. 60
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Igor, Imperial Booby @ #:

    Ah, yes, the Wonderful World of Upgrades That Function BETTER Than The Older Version

    Since when?
    :em07:

    Welcome to Support.

    I did 4 years on a helldesk and have scars, and the bodycount of lusers, to prove it.
    :em08:
    Und now, some topic drift. Perfect fodder for those that like Israel and hate Nazi’s, especially Ivy League Nazi’s.
    :em07:
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  61. 61
    BC, Imperial Torturer growls and barks:

    LC hilljohnny @ #:

    You rang? :em05:

    Dominatrix
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    That is quite possibly the biggest FUPA I’ve ever seen! I’m a little scared! :em06:
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  63. 63
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Obamas been a racist his whole life.

    You can´t attend a racist Church that many years and not have a built-in bias against “rich white peee-puuuul”, as the Right Reverend Wright said.

    Obama and his wife are anti-Christian, anti-Semitic and anti-white, and no amount of fancy attempts at explaining it will cover that up, although they hide it well for their cult-like followers.

    His policies, at their redistributionist core, are designed to hurt white people and help black people.

    Sorry, but this POTUS is racist at his core and always has been.

  64. 64
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    It’s just that this wondrous, fantastic, absolutely must have WordPress Upgrade did what every single other upgrade in the history of software upgrades did, which is to fuck up things beyond repair.

    Have a smidgen of patience, a’ight? I am a bit busy at the moment arguing with some twatwhistles who are completely apoplectic over the “reinstatement” of Phil Robertson.

    But I have been working on the changes needed to make this site work again.

    You know this isn’t an out-of-the-box theme here, so shit is probably going to happen if it isn’t routinely maintained.

    As to WHY WordPress had to be upgraded, the internet is teaming with mischievous little urchins who love nothing better than taking over a website and turning it into a giant vi-agra advertisement. They especially look for sites that haven’t been upgraded in a while, which is why Automattic puts in a little time bomb that starts counting down once a couple of versions go by without an upgrade. (yes, WordPress does “phone home”)

    I will be working on this on and off through this coming week. When it is done, I will notify you and Spats to get it installed, along with the instructions on how to reset the login issue.

    For fun, you can play with an old familiar toy we used to have here. It will be available in the upgraded version I send you, and it will be up to you to decide if and when you want to turn it on.

    I go back to work on the 6th, and will be busy dealing with alligators up to my butt after that, so I WILL be working on it this coming week.
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  65. 65
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    Have a smidgen of patience, a’ight? I am a bit busy at the moment arguing with some twatwhistles who are completely apoplectic over the “reinstatement” of Phil Robertson.

    Patience? PATIENCE??? … Ah, OK… I guess it’s about time I try it on for size :)

    I know that this site isn’t your average run of the mill site (and thank G-d for that), but those WP upgrades really don’t seem to play well with anything beyond the default design ;)

    Anyway, I appreciate you looking over it, as always! :em01:
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  66. 66
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    the internet is teaming with mischievous little urchins who love nothing better than taking over a website and turning it into a giant vi-agra advertisement.

    Ah… The Mother of All Penis Threads! Now With Added Penis!™
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  67. 67
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    I know that this site isn’t your average run of the mill site (and thank G-d for that), but those WP upgrades really don’t seem to play well with anything beyond the default design

    Yeah, but I might have to change that a bit. It was fine to have a custom-made website with added bells and whistles when there was someone here to oil it and keep the tires filled, but now you are more in need of a low-maintenance machine that gets updated when it’s needed.
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    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    If the site upgrade is the reason why B.C. is now able to post pictures directly into the comment feed, I would say that we are clearly at DefCon 1. This must be fixed immediately before my retinas run screaming through my nasal cavities.

    On the plus side, I have a friend starting a diet after the 1st who will be greatly benefited by my having superglued this image to the front of his refrigerator.

  69. 69
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC SecondMouse says:

    If the site upgrade is the reason why B.C. is now able to post pictures directly into the comment feed, I would say that we are clearly at DefCon 1. This must be fixed immediately before my retinas run screaming through my nasal cavities.

    No, it is his security level here at the site that allows him to post to the comments.
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  70. 70
    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #69:

    Sorry – that was more my odd sense of humor than a call to action. I had finally learned to avoid his links. Now I will have to add bleach to the eyewash.

  71. 71
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC SecondMouse says:

    If the site upgrade is the reason why B.C. is now able to post pictures directly into the comment feed

    How do you do that?