But No Bias At ALL, You Wingnut

First off, the rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated. It’s just that it’s the season to be unable to do anything other than pretending to have fun and, of course, catching up with what corporate procrastinated about all year long until they realized that years don’t bend to the will of overpaid, underworked CEOs who sucked the dicks/slurped the vaginas of the right people. Because if they have any other qualifications, they’re not readily apparent to any sentient beings.

But back to the subject of the post. The recent shooting at Arapahoe High. The shooting that ended in one actual human being shot. As opposed to the mass murders usually happening in Progressive Gun Free No Bag Limit Zones. Because there was an armed deputy (progressive howl ‘boo, hiss!’) at the scene, so the perp ended up suck starting his own shotgun instead. How horrible. How is Obama and his progressive socialists ever going to advance a dictatorial disarmament agenda if the armed people keep saving lives?

Better make Heinrich Holder murder another few hundred Mexicans. For the Common Good.

But that wasn’t the worst part. The worst, if wholly expected part, was the local progressive propaganda rag, the Denver Marxist, immediately editing out the political affiliation of the would-be murderer once they realized that he was a socialist. OH NOES, mustn’t disturb the narrative. Granted, it took them a while to edit it out, they had to finish masturbating to their progressive fantasies about children being murdered by Evil Right Wingers first, but they certainly lived down to their reputation.

“Isolated incident”, we hear the progressive/marxist/socialist apologists howling. Yeah, isolated like this.

Never happened before.

It’s not like the progressive/liberal fascist swine ever got it wrong before. Not above 100% of the time, anyway.

Have you killed a progressive today? If not, why not? They’re not really that hard to kill if you have the opportunity. They’re guaranteed to not fight back because they can’t and it’s not like anybody is going to miss them.

Thatisall.

207 comments

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    First off, the rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated.

    Well, when I didn’t see your name pop up on Stiffs.com (which, by the way you are making me lose a hefty bet….) then I knew nothing serious was going on here. Pardon me for filling in for the moment, just in case they hadn’t found your body yet….

    :em05:
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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    First off, the rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated.

    So what was that wagon doing outside your castle with a guy yelling “Bring out yer dead!”?
    :em05:

    overpaid, underworked CEOs who sucked the dicks/slurped the vaginas of the right people. Because if they have any other qualifications, they’re not readily apparent to any sentient beings.

    I didn’t know you worked with my wife? She was just saying that she hopes her boss and her husband go to the funereal home next week…As customers.
    :em07:

    In any case, MERRY CHRISTMAS and SCREW THE ACLU!!
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    Mishkele!!!! I was starting to get worried. We were going to wreak all kinds of mayhem had you not come back!

    BTW – an update on the Denver Compost story here. It includes Tweets from the dumb bitch news editor.
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    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    “…and, of course, catching up with what corporate procrastinated about all year long until they realized that years don’t bend to the will of overpaid, underworked CEOs who sucked the dicks/slurped the vaginas of the right people. Because if they have any other qualifications, they’re not readily apparent to any sentient beings.”

    Brother, I am so very, very There.

    – MD

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC MuscleDaddy says:

    Brother, I am so very, very There.

    – MD

    Fun time of year, no?

    Then again, in the Jugeared Marxist Fuck’s Economy, I suppose we should be grateful that we have CEOs who can make our lives merry hell. Most Americans aren’t that lucky. They’re all “funemployed” thanks to His Lenin-ness, Obama.
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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    And we have just gotten this nice Christmas gift from the Federal court. It seems that at least one judge does think the NSA is violating the 4th amendment.
    :em01:
    Ruling stayed pending the inevitable appeal. This will be heading for the USSC. I’m sure they will be more then happy to say that this is tax and perfectly legal.
    :em07:
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    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    Yer Majestyness, don’t let repeated real world experiences distract you from the narrative. Armed personnel in schools is dangerous to students, and might make liberal administrators and parents wet their panties. It would be far better for Il Douche and his agenda if the armed deputy had not been allowed in the school. Then all of the lefties like Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein, and Ear Leader swoon in orgasm at all the dead kids and this wonderful opportunity to try to seize firearms from the law abiding.

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    Greywolf125 growls and barks:

    Had us Rottie Rant fix addicts worried.
    ……………….
    Prefer to have you again at full baying & howling in next weeks, while surrounded by SoCAL hopenchangers X *2*?? who thought OJT in POTUS was plausible.

    ” A bad guy with gun needs good guy with a gun”, anyone?
    [WADR to the woman deputy sheriff}
    //////////////////////////////////

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    You have time to write posts.

    I’m impressed.
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    Nice to see you posting, Misha :)
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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    If I might offer a few items for your review.

    Senator Jeanne Shaheen, soon to be ex-senator

    Obamacare now raiding bank accounts

    In the “It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy”department :em07:
    (You will LOVE that one!!)

    And of course, the obligatory Stupid Criminal in the News
    Criminal genius’s unique mode of escape

    And finally…

    Jerry Brown for president!!

    Just a few targets for you to blast away at. I know how busy it can get this time of year. (My wife is working right through new years with no break and I’ve got app deployments Friday and for the 5th year running, will be in front of the computer and not celebrating New years)
    :em08:
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    bruce growls and barks:

    it was ted kennedy and the aclu who mainstreamed all of the crazies with predictable results so it is only fair that they are all national socialist democrats who commit these murders.the propagandists for the socialists will always blame the nra and conservatives for the what ever a crazy commie creep does. it is so difficult to lock them up because the dems want them on the loose murdering people so they will have excuses to destroy the second amendment.

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    bruce says:

    it was ted kennedy and the aclu who mainstreamed all of the crazies with predictable results so it is only fair that they are all national socialist democrats who commit these murders.the propagandists for the socialists will always blame the nra and conservatives for the what ever a crazy commie creep does. it is so difficult to lock them up because the dems want them on the loose murdering people so they will have excuses to destroy the second amendment.

    Are you off your Thorazine drip? Wipe the flecks of froth off your mouth and try coherent thoughts.

    No one wants murderers on the loose, you moron! Not even Democrats. Do they want to take our rights away? Sure. Many of them want to ban guns altogether, and that makes them repulsive tyrannical swine. Do they WANT people to die for that cause? Unless you’re a frothing fucktard you wouldn’t believe that in a million years! So unless you have some evidentiary insight into the minds of the Democrats showing us they WANT people to die, shut the fuck up.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Well these are the same assholes that killed how many people to promote gun control during fast and furious?

    Heh.

    If they think they need to use death to promote their social agenda then the statists running this sham of a government will kill as many people as they deem necessary to get their way.

    Directly, indirectly, what price a few dead to reach Utopia?

    If they think, say letting gangs run wild in Shitcago will promote their agenda… they will let gangs run wild in Shitcago. Or kill an Ambassador. Or crash the economy.

    They’ll bring it all down – cause they are fucking arrogant enough to think they can come out the other side on top.

    I’d imagine stringing a few of them up might change their tune – and we’ll get to that point eventually. A place where these bastards and their goons are being hunted like dogs, and executed on sight. It won’t be a pleasant or happy time. Lots of good people and innocent people are going to die.

    But it will be necessary to avert an even greater tyranny. Sadly. We should have been put a stop to this in the 70′s when it was possible peacefully. We didn’t.

    There is going to be a civil war in this country.

    You can’t vote your way out of it, and you won’t be able to escape untouched in some way.

    The “Administrative Tyranny” runs everything meaningful now. President, Congressman, Senator – these are nothing more than mascots for the unenlightened to cheer for and against – while the various unaccountable arms of FedGovCo do what-ever-the-fuck they please without a lick of oversight.

    It’s gonna be a fight to kill that beast. Let’s win.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

    so what’s stopping you from enacting your final solution? light it up……

    I remember a quote from Lincoln:

    “the more a man knows, the less a man talks”

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Well these are the same assholes that killed how many people to promote gun control during fast and furious?

    Yeah… that’s EXACTLY why they funneled guns to Mexican cartels. This is the same fucking government that can’t pass a fucking budget to save its ass, and you think they have this elaborate plan to implement gun control by allowing guns to “walk” over to Mexico? Occam’s Razor.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    If they think they need to use death to promote their social agenda then the statists running this sham of a government will kill as many people as they deem necessary to get their way.

    Yeah, because that’s sane.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    If they think they need to use death to promote their social agenda then the statists running this sham of a government will kill as many people as they deem necessary to get their way.

    Directly, indirectly, what price a few dead to reach Utopia?

    That tinfoil hat is getting a little too tight.

    Here’s the deal, shithead. You’re endangering this site and what has been a close-knit community with your violent, paranoid drivel. You advocate violence. You have no concept of actual reality. And you’re a paranoid loon whose only solution is to kill people to get your way, which makes you just as insane and tyrannical as the people you claim are doing the same to us.

    It’s called “projection.” You might want to look up the definition.
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    Oh, and by the way, your Walter Mitty fantasies are getting stale. Put up or shut the fuck up. Otherwise, if you can’t contribute anything sane, rational or constructive to the discussion, you can fuck right off.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    I must have landed an arrow pretty close to the mark to have provoked a reaction like that – no? Now, since I have a good deal of respect for Misha, I am not going to sit here, pick nits, and ruckas up the place with you. Also, unlike, say DJ, I do have a fairly reasonable amount of respect for you, and as such, I shall “play nice” and show a good deal more “courtesy” than I am being shown.

    Naturally you don’t have the faintest notion what I’ve been getting up to, since you are not… well.. privy to the details of my life. Now, for what should be fairly obvious reasons, (largely again, respect for Misha’s Doghouse), I am not going to be using this space to advertise. What I am doing however is agitating and making salient points.

    If you don’t like that, well… open forums are a bitch that way. I have no intention of stopping here and the many, many other communities I am a part of – and rather than getting yourself worked into an indignant rage, I’d advise you simply gloss over anything I write, since it’s clearly pissing you off.

    I’ll note for the court that you were rather nasty with Bruce, with zero justification I might add. While he’s got his own distinctive “writing style,” which could best be described as “unrestrained ID,” few would say his heart was in the wrong place.

    We all have our roles to play in the coming civil war. Some will be front-line fighters. Some of will provide supplies support and training. Some will ferret out intelligence or organize communication. Some will rat out federal goons for proper justice.

    Some of us – like so many of the founders – will write persuasively and passionately to help motivate others to act, build sympathy, and legitimize the steps that will eventually need to be taken.

    I make no apologies.

    Nor am I interested in stopping because you find my perspective unsettling.

    And Jaybear, we’ve been over this before. Everyone here knows what I am prescribing and the preliminary steps, and the roles – as well as the timeline. They’ve even been featured in an article on this very site, for whatever merit that carries.

    As to Lincoln’s quote… well now… I am not spending my retirement years creating propaganda to show-off to everything I know… (I will leave that up to Pete), I am here to persuade and legitimize action.

    And that sir, requires WORDS.

    Why do you think the First Amendment enjoys the position it does? Passionate ideas put to words have more power than all the guns and field artillery in the world. The patriots must be roused to anger. What good is a gun without the will to use it?

    Hrm?

    It’s a paper weight.

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    No. All you did was insinuate you were this Great Leader candidate who knew better than all of us peasants what was good for us. You think of yourself as some strategic genius, the second coming of Vlad Lenin, Adolf Hitler and George Patton morphed into one–in your own fantasy world. What you come off as, to all of us inferior assholes in that accursed reality, is a fucking douchebag. A BIG douchebag. So, just stop. Your n00bish little rants may impress a n00b. Everyone else has a LOL and drives on. If shit really hit the fan, nobody would obey you. Dude, obedience is old bag. It’s obsolete. Get over it. Think of something better. Until then, ta-ta! :em02:

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    WTF is it with n00bs thinking they r 733t? :em08:

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    I got it: they play too much last year’s COD. Dumb cunts. :em07:

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    SNORT! Oh, Captain my captain! NOT! You’re a shitbrick with delusions of grandeur, an irritating zit on the ass of my beloved site. Trust me when I tell you that no one here with a shred of military experience – and that includes quite a few of us – including my dear brother – would follow you to the outhouse, let alone war! You’re not here to persuade action. You’re here to be an irritant, and I’m just about tired of the boil that you are, so I’m excising you.

    The First Amendment doesn’t apply here, douchenugget. This is a private site run by Misha. He can allow you to spew your shit, or not, and you have squat to say about it. The First Amendment prevents government from prosecuting you for your words. It doesn’t prevent the rest of us from recognizing a sniveling, self-aggrandizing little hemorrhoid with delusions of grandeur.

    And BTW, if any kind of apocalypse does happen, I’ll gladly feed you and the incoherent, frothing Bruce to the zombies feet first. I don’t need speed bumps like you in my way. You’re not a strategic genius. You’re a delusional tool. You’re to be ridiculed.
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    Oh, and BTW, Bruce doesn’t have a “distinctive writing style.” He’s a window licking, helmet wearing retard. You are not Thomas Paine. You’re not that eloquent. Misha is family. You are, at best, that annoying teenager down the street, who thinks he’s a badass, because mommy and daddy bought him a pair of Nike Foamposits and an iPad.

    So, listen to your betters, like a good boy, and STFU.
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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Geez, Nicki, get a grip. I’m beginning to wonder who bogarted your login …

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    Special Ed says:

    Geez, Nicki, get a grip. I’m beginning to wonder who bogarted your login …

    And I’m beginning to wonder if you’re blind as to what’s been going on here, or just are ignoring the obvious.
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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    It cracks me up when doddering old farts get all Great-Leader-ish and visionary-ish after their Viagra/Prune juice/Metamucil cocktail kicks in. Dude, it’s not righteous fervor you feel– it’s gas!

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    I’ll note for the court that you were rather nasty with Bruce, with zero justification I might add. While he’s got his own distinctive “writing style,” which could best be described as “unrestrained ID,” few would say his heart was in the wrong place.

    he’s a racist nothing more, if you want to throw in with him then by all means do so…..it’s your reputation and credibility, not mine.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    We all have our roles to play in the coming civil war. Some will be front-line fighters. Some of will provide supplies support and training. Some will ferret out intelligence or organize communication. Some will rat out federal goons for proper justice.

    and if you think it’s going to be fought like that then you’re about a century too late with your tactics and strategy. There will be no front line, and most likely there won’t be a logistics chain……it’s a big country and by the time the revolution starts we will not be able to assemble ala Lexington Green. The distances are too vast and differences too great. Do you really think we could prevail in a stand up fight against the US government and it’s armed contingents? I’m not talking about our military, I’m talking about agencies like the homeland security and the NSA and other armed government groups.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Some of us – like so many of the founders – will write persuasively and passionately to help motivate others to act, build sympathy, and legitimize the steps that will eventually need to be taken.

    you mean with writing and encouragement like this:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    I’d imagine stringing a few of them up might change their tune – and we’ll get to that point eventually. A place where these bastards and their goons are being hunted like dogs, and executed on sight. It won’t be a pleasant or happy time. Lots of good people and innocent people are going to die.

    That’s brown shirt stuff, Kosovo stuff, no better than what our real enemy…islam……wants to do with non-believers. like I said before, I’ve seen this kill’ em all kind crap written here by you and Fa Cube and bruce and a couple of others for months and maybe a year or two…..again I ask, what’s stopping you from carrying out this grand strategy? big words, no action. Not much encouragement there in my book

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Why do you think the First Amendment enjoys the position it does? Passionate ideas put to words have more power than all the guns and field artillery in the world. The patriots must be roused to anger. What good is a gun without the will to use it?

    good statement, too bad your rhetoric doesn’t match it. You and others here aren’t defending the 1st or ANY amendment or right….you’re advocating something comparable to ethnic cleansing of our population and the dismantling of this country. If you think we will be left unhindered to rebuild after your grand revolution think again, countries like China and Russia and maybe even Mexico would welcome the opportunity to come to our aid and “rebuild” a better country…..you open that door you better damned well be ready to accept whatever comes through it.

    Dangerous words can encourage the wrong people to action, think of the field day the media would have if the more malleable ones on our side took yours and others words to heart and acted on them. We would lose the war before it even got started.

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    People who are drooling at the prospect of actual shooting war in this country are psychopaths. They will do the repeat of 1918′s Red Terror in Russia. I can see them murdering people based on nothing but how they look: “Oh, he looks like a liberal professor! And he looks like a hood rat! And she looks like a government employee…” Where does it stop? Because the end game of this bullshit will be formation of little violent dictatorships led by assorted psychos. It’s not liberty that people who agitate for an armed uprising want–it’s THEIR dictatorial power over as many others as they can muster.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Ok Boys and Girls, (And anything in between), here are some Christmas greetings from Chuck Norris, a team of Navy SEALS and the United States Air Force.
    :em01:
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    Jay and Nat are absolutely correct. It is not inspiring to incite people to violence. It is not inspiring to dream of war and pretend you’re some great leader, who is drooling at the prospect of “leadership.” A good military leader does not ache for war, but rather knows it’s the last option. A good military leader understands that all other options need to be exhausted, and does not dance with glee at the prospect of killing his enemies.

    As a military veteran and someone who currently works in the national security field, I’m absolutely revolted, disgusted and nauseated by some of the fucking rhetoric I hear here!

    And I’m done being silent about it!
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    A good military leader does not ache for war, but rather knows it’s the last option. A good military leader understands that all other options need to be exhausted, and does not dance with glee at the prospect of killing his enemies.

    No disagreement there, sestrichka, none whatsoever.

    However, in all fairness, there comes a time when you have to start wondering if there ARE any options left and you might find yourself saying “no, there aren’t.” Not because you’re a Bad Person™, but because you’re beginning to feel like an useful idiot deluding himself into thinking that there is still hope.

    I’m not there yet, but I would be lying if I were to pretend that I have much hope in the system’s ability to self-correct.

    That being said, the mere thought of what that means for our nation fills me with horror, because I’ve seen that movie before.

    Doesn’t mean that it might not be true. Here’s praying, intensely, that it isn’t.
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    Emperor Misha I says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    A good military leader does not ache for war, but rather knows it’s the last option. A good military leader understands that all other options need to be exhausted, and does not dance with glee at the prospect of killing his enemies.

    No disagreement there, sestrichka, none whatsoever.

    However, in all fairness, there comes a time when you have to start wondering if there ARE any options left and you might find yourself saying “no, there aren’t.” Not because you’re a Bad Person™, but because you’re beginning to feel like an useful idiot deluding himself into thinking that there is still hope.

    I’m not there yet, but I would be lying if I were to pretend that I have much hope in the system’s ability to self-correct.

    That being said, the mere thought of what that means for our nation fills me with horror, because I’ve seen that movie before.

    Doesn’t mean that it might not be true. Here’s praying, intensely, that it isn’t.
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    Boss,

    I guess I’m still a bit of an optimist as I believe that this country hasn’t yet exhausted it’s greatness…..either in what it can accomplish on the world stage or what it’s people can do when the chips are really down. That said, I ,like Nicki and Nat, am pretty bothered by some of the rhetoric here lately. I’ve read calls to target cops and any member of what is perceived as the “blue tribe”, I’ve read statements about hunting liberals down like dogs and killing them, I’ve seen some blatantly racists words used. I understand that it’s of value to have a forum like the Rott so we can vent and air out our grievances and concerns, it’s a good thing to have, it’s a healthy thing to have. I love the over the top dialogue here, but in the past that blue tongued dialogue had some intelligence and thought behind it……I don’t see a lot of that anymore, and neither do a lot of the old regulars….regulars that used to post here quite often but don’t because of that.

    You and me and everyone else here can and should call for change and for restoring this country, it’s part of our job as free citizens and patriots, but the founding fathers never encouraged the mass extermination of loyalists in the colonies, Grant and Sherman never encouraged mass killings of Southern civilians and sympathizers, we didn’t do it in Germany or Japan either. In all those cases, our war waging was directed at the enemy on the field….not their families or non-combatants. We fight this revolution against those who are the direct threat against us, the political class…..whatever armed foot soldiers they put in our way…..their media allies……targeting EVERYONE that associates with them as some have advocated here only puts us in league with the SS and Taliban and Pol Pot. It can’t help our cause, it can only hinder it…and I hate to see it promoted here by a few loudmouths who should know better about what they are bringing down on themselves and us true patriots.

    I like Nicki will not be quiet about calling these people out, they are dangerous to the cause. I don’t want them banned as they are entitled to their voice here, but that voice won’t go unanswered or unchallenged anymore….especially when they make targets of cops (a few members of my extended family being LEO’s) or innocent people.

    sorry about lighting it up Boss, I just miss the old timers and their wisdom here.

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    Emperor Misha I says:

    However, in all fairness, there comes a time when you have to start wondering if there ARE any options left and you might find yourself saying “no, there aren’t.” Not because you’re a Bad Person™, but because you’re beginning to feel like an useful idiot deluding himself into thinking that there is still hope.

    Oh, I know that can happen, moy dorogoy bratik. I would be lying if I told you I never thought about what would happen if… But here’s the thing – I don’t think we’re at that point yet. Most of our society hasn’t had enough yet, because they’re either ignorant, or this shit really doesn’t affect them. For real change to occur, there needs to be a widespread will to change. It’s just not there yet. It went pretty well for us in 2010 when a wave of discontent gave us back the Senate.

    What Hemptard is advocating is murder, mayhem and war with him as Minister of Propaganda. He’s drooling at the prospect of bloodshed, especially of those whom he doesn’t like or agree with. He’s dancing with glee at the thought without consideration to the millions of innocents that would be slaughtered in his little fantasy. THAT’s my problem with this doucherocket.
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    Ugh. I meant the House in my last post. Brain has gone on strike after a full day’s work!
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    If you believe appeals to ridicule, comical strawmen, and ad-hominim are going to drive me away Ma’am, you’re sadly mistaken.

    Rumor has it that I am quite capable in a debate. Feel free to challenge – if you can manage more than barely restrained rage and lash-outs in every direction you think, (hope), might sting. (Fair warning: More than three decades in a courtroom have given me a rather resilient outer-surface. It’s unlikely you can concoct something that hasn’t already been said of me – in print).

    While your e-conniption-fit might be cathartic, it’s about as useful for getting your point across, (or rebutting mine), as a shopping mall detonated claymore mine is for preventing collateral damage. Rail away if you like, I’ve never been one to stand in the way of a good informal fallacy – or seething anger. But if you’re looking to sway opinions, force my departure, or even bother me, you are throwing a good deal of effort into a loosing cause. (That’s said for your benefit – not mine. I’d feel genuinely bad if you worked yourself into an aneurism. Though we are coming from a “different ideological position” I have no doubts that your intentions are good, and that your heart is in the right place. We both agree on the problem – we disagree on the solution).

    In point of fact, I would note these tantrums actually benefit my cause, by drawing attention to these various missives – and for that I would offer a sincere thank-you.

    Writings, such as this might be ignored or skimmed by the many readers of this site, (most of which never post or even log-in). Due largely to your “shouts of fire,” the obscure is suddenly brought into laser-focus. I appreciate the help in publicizing my work.

    You might believe you are somehow diminishing this effort through your tirade, or attempts at hurling ridicule. Alas, my specific audience is already predisposed to agree with this position – and there are many of them, pulled from places like TL in Exile, Liberty’s Torch, WRSA, the Nephews Site, and more. By stirring the pot as you are, these readers are certain to notice something that might otherwise have been passed in the huff-and-puff of daily living. I really do appreciate “the bump” as kiddie crowd is fond of saying.

    Rest assured though Ma’am, being the product of better times, I will always show you more courtesy and respect than you are willing to return. I was raised a gentleman after all, and I will die one.

    /hat-tip

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    If you believe appeals to ridicule, comical strawmen, and ad-hominim are going to drive me away Ma’am, you’re sadly mistaken.

    Well, when you’re ridiculous, that’s what you can expect. Ridicule.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    While your e-conniption-fit might be cathartic, it’s about as useful for getting your point across, (or rebutting mine), as a shopping mall detonated hand-grenade is for preventing collateral damage. Rail away if you like, I’ve never been one to stand in the way of a good informal fallacy or seething anger. But if you’re looking to sway opinions, make me leave, or even bother me, you are throwing a good deal of effort into a loosing cause. (That’s said for your benefit – not mine.)

    I don’t have to sway opinions, Hemptard. Or haven’t you noticed that? By the way, nice victim card. Doesn’t work.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    In point of fact, I would note your tantrums actually benefit my cause, by drawing attention to these various missives – and for that I would like to offer a sincere thank-you. Writings – such as this one – that might be ignored or skimmed by the many readers of this site, (most of which never post or even log-in), are suddenly brought to the fore by the controversy. I appreciate the help in publicizing my work.

    You are truly delusional if you believe that anyone takes you seriously. We all ignored you for a long time, and it’s been long enough. Your boring, self-aggrandizing spew does nothing to advance our cause and makes this site no longer appealing for quite a number of people who consider it their Internet home. Well, that’s not going to happen anymore. I guarantee you that we don’t just find you ridiculous, arrogant, delusional and inane, but if you’re hoping to be taken more seriously, or to have others increase their attention to your absurd spew, you’re sadly mistaken.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Rest assured though Ma’am, being the product of better times, I will always show you more courtesy and respect than you are willing to return. I was raised a gentleman after all, and I will die one.

    Don’t you mean BYproduct? Best part of you apparently was swallowed by your mommy. The sooner you realize your pointless shitbaggery impresses no one, except for maybe the racist, repugnant swine spunk that is your buddy bruce, the better off we’ll both be.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    /hat-tip

    Fuck off.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    That’s a good deal of e-rage there Ma’am. If tossing linguistic knives at me helps calm your nerves however, then hurl away.

    As to the substance, there’s not much there to really “debate” – such as it were – mostly you probing this way and that, hoping something will hit a raw nerve. Fortunately, the things that get me “pissed off” are not the sort of ideals you espouse. You’re not a statist, hell-bent on turning the flaming wreckage of America into a nanny-state – or worse – which means you lack anything that’s going to get the ol’ blood roiling. I am most certainly not one to get bent out of shape in a debate over process.

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    Fuck off.

    Ma’am, I’m afraid I’ll just have to disappoint you there.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    PS: Bruce kinda grows on you after a while.

    :em01:

    (Where is this “Bruce is a racist” thing coming from? Nothing I’ve seen posted in the last several years on his part. I’d also mention that after 5 years of the media calling everything and everyone a “racist” the word pretty much has no “pull” with me. Bruce would have to be a card carrying member of the Knights of the Klan or Aryan Nation to “bother” me – thanks to the buffoons on TV calling every person opposed to Obamacare or Tax Hicks “a racist.”)

    Feel free to prove me wrong, and post some links of his alleged “Racism.”

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    If you want to see e-rage, head over to the interpreter thread and check out my message to your sheet-wearing ass buddy. What I do here is merely use you as a cat toy for the entertainment of others. No one takes you seriously. And what you don’t seem to get through your haze of delusion and douchebaggery is that you are not a leader. You are not a philosopher. You are not the town crier. You are not even fit to lick our Founders’ shoes. You’re merely an impotent, dickless little fuckweasel who sits around on his computer and masturbates to his war fantasies. You’re an object of consternation to many people here. Only you’re too stupid to see that and too self absorbed to understand the damage you’re doing.
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    Racists will NEVER grow on me. Go to the interpreter open thread and read what he’s written, which isn’t the first time he’s said something repugnant. Unless your reading comprehension skills are just as lacking as your common sense.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Nope… you have yet to manage anything new or particularly shocking to these old eyes Ma’am. Whole ‘lotta misconceptions and fallacies on your part - and enough red-herring to feed the starving masses in Ethiopia.

    A for effort. But the “awe” is a bit lacking in your “shock” department.

    Now, as to the accusation you’re making of racism on Bruce’s part – in this “interpreter thread” – where is this exactly? You’re trying awful hard to sell me some blood libel Ma’am. Burden of proof is on you, and I ‘m a pretty open minded guy – if you got some evidence. But before I smear feces all over someone’s good name, I’d like to make certain it’s a truly deserving target.

    No offense intended, but given your current behavior, I’m more than a little disinclined to just take you at your word.

    So, if you’d please be so kind, direct me – with a link preferably – to this horrible behavior on Bruce’s part. If you actually want to convince me that is. If your real intent is another ungainly attempt at starting a confrontation, you’ll have to pardon me if I pass on your offer.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Nope… you have yet to manage anything new or particularly shocking to these old eyes Ma’am. Whole ‘lotta misconceptions and fallacies on your part – and enough red-herring to feed the starving masses in Ethiopia.
    A for effort. But the “awe” is a bit lacking in your “shock” department.
    Now, as to the accusation you’re making of racism on Bruce’s part – in this “interpreter thread” – where is this exactly. You’re trying awful hard to sell me some blood libel Ma’am. Burden of proof is on you, and I ‘m a pretty open minded guy – if you got some evidence. But before I smear feces all over someone’s good name, I’d like to make certain it’s a truly deserving target.
    No offense intended, but given your current behavior, I’m more than a little disinclined to just take you at your word.
    So, if you’d please be so kind, direct me – with a link preferably – to this horrible behavior on Bruce’s part. If you actually want to convince me that is. If your real intent is another ungainly attempt at starting a confrontation, you’ll have to pardon me if I pass on your offer.

    Try reading comprehension asshole. I’m not here for your disposal. So you’re dumb and obstinate. Got it.

    Fuck off.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    You’ll unfortunately need to provide a better argument than “You’re a stinky dummy-face + expletive” if you want me consider someone else “unclean.”

    I know, call me old fashioned. But, it’s a standard I apply to pretty much everyone – and it’s yet to steer me wrong.

    A lynch mob has it’s proper place – but before I spook the horse, I make sure I’ll be able to sleep at night afterwards.

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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Sorry I was away all day. Thank you for your concern for my blindness, Nicki, but I assure you that I am not blind. I am also not going to insist anyone stop voicing their opinion. I’m not going to assume I know the motive and backstory of every post, suggestion, or comment.

    I will read the comments. I will consider their merits and faults, and weigh their worth accordingly. If I feel it necessary, I’ll ask for clarification or verification.

    Jaybear, you were in the military, yes? Would you even consider launching a mission or action against a target before you were ready, even if third parties were goading you to act?

    And to all veterans, and concerning when to prepare for battle: It sure as hell better be before lead flies. A battle plan is a terrible thing to devise on the fly.

    Oh, and yes, I’m a vet. 20 years Army MP, two years federal LE. I’m not offended by others bashing bad cops. I’m offended that there ARE bad cops.

    I’m with Misha. Choose your targets not by what they wear or where they work; choose them because of what they are doing.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    You’ll unfortunately need to provide a better argument than “You’re a stinky dummy-face + expletive” if you want me consider someone else “unclean.”

    Like I said. Go look it up. I’m not here to serve you, dipshit.

    Special Ed says:

    I am also not going to insist anyone stop voicing their opinion. I’m not going to assume I know the motive and backstory of every post, suggestion, or comment.

    I didn’t ask you to. But to question my sanity (or even my identity) merely because I’ve just about had it with some of the assweasels who have infested this site and have decided to take them on is a bit silly.

    *shrug*
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but alas… angry yelling just draws a crowd – and for that Ma’am, truly I thank you for the unsolicited publicity.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Sticks and stones may break my bones, but alas… angry yelling just draws a crowd – and for that Ma’am, truly I thank you for the unsolicited publicity.

    Yeah. Attention whoring is so becoming! Not.
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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Okay.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Well Ma’am, since it seems your notion of an adult discussion is to cast about salty language, act disrespectful, and do your level best to force me defend a series of strawmen – each more humorous and ridiculous than the previous – I’ll have to settle for letting you promote my work.

    Not only are you “bumping” the things I write to the top, you’re effectively doubling them with the quotes. Much obliged.

    Now, if you will indulge me, please do go on. I am starting to find your efforts to “rile me up” rather fascinating. It’s quite a testament to obstinance – no slight intended.

    In fact, I find it a rather endearing trait. I can respect an obstinate person.

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    Special Ed says:

    Jaybear, you were in the military, yes? Would you even consider launching a mission or action against a target before you were ready, even if third parties were goading you to act?

    And to all veterans, and concerning when to prepare for battle: It sure as hell better be before lead flies. A battle plan is a terrible thing to devise on the fly.

    I was a civilian contractor Ed, working in training and simulation. I would not consider any mission much less a full blown war based on a hotheads clamoring for hunting down liberals like dogs…..what concerns me and given that you were an MP and LEO should concern you too, is the exhorting of others to target police officers. I’ve said it before….my family is stacked with current and former cops, local and federal, I had someone here say that I was a member of the “blue tribe” based on my family connections to LEO’s, and conversely that made me a target. what happens if some of the more pliable people hear shit like this and act on it? All of this crap being spewed about killing them and letting God sort them out is irresponsible and history shows that when that rhetoric is followed, genocide results. Is that really the way we take this country back? and how many die? I’d like a ballpark estimate.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Now, please if you will, do go on, I am starting to find your efforts to “rile me up” rather fascinating at this point. It’s quite a testament to obstinance – no slight intended Ma’am.

    You’re quite delusional and self-aggrandizing, if you think that my aim is to “rile you up.” I just don’t find you that interesting, Cupcake. I think you’re a Walter Mitty trying to live out a violent fantasy. You’re a sad, pathetic douchebag. And frankly, there’s not anyone here that gives your spew any more consideration than usual – that is to say none.

    So again. Fuck off.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Where is this “Bruce is a racist” thing coming from? Nothing I’ve seen posted in the last several years on his part.

    example #1: he also knows how to rape rob and murder that is just tnb.

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9614#comment

    example#2: I bet the complainer was an affirmative action knee grow who can’t do the job but can find the time to be the leader of the thought police.

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9607#comment

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    I just don’t find you that interesting, Cupcake.

    Alas Ma’am, the near twenty posts you’ve devoted to following school-yard insults with personal attacks with fallacies – over a period of several hours now – tells a much different tale.

    I beg your pardon, but perhaps you can understand how someone you’ve went to considerable effort to libel might reach that conclusion. Or possibly not. Which makes you a rather fascinating character.

    /hands off the baton.

    Edit: That’s a relay race reference, in case it’s unclear.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

    example #1: he also knows how to rape rob and murder that is just tnb.

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9614#comment

    example#2: I bet the complainer was an affirmative action knee grow who can’t do the job but can find the time to be the leader of the thought police.

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9607#comment

    Why thank you very much for providing me with some links. Now, if you will give me a moment, I need to go read through this thread, see the actual comments, and put them in context. Not to imply that you and certain other people are being rather disingenuous at the moment, but as the Gipper said:

    “Trust, but verify.”

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    I beg your pardon, but perhaps you can understand how someone you’ve went to considerable effort to libel might reach that conclusion. Or possibly not. Which makes you a rather fascinating character.

    Libel? LMAO! Doesn’t meet the criteria, dickhead. You have no reputation to tarnish, save for the one in your overactive imagination.

    Put your hands back on that baton. That seems to be what you do best.

    I’m going to bed. Some of us have gainful employment to get to.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Ahh retiring so soon? That’s too bad. I am certain we can continue this delightful discourse tomorrow.

    Pleasant dreams Ma’am.

    Back to reading.

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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    I don’t advocate full blown war, either, and should there be shooting, I don’t know how much will be necessary to force any given faction to sue for peace. Casualties? I’m not good at predictions, especially about the future. I do know that the time to start thinking about tomorrow was yesterday.

    Here’s the thing. Nobody knows what’s going to happen. No one knows how whatever is going to happen, will happen. Anybody targeting large, trained, armed groups won’t last out the week. The glitch will fix itself. I consider such rash advice merely hyperbole by ignorant ranters and dismiss it.

    As for bruce, I don’t read his comments. I enjoy Asperger’s syndrome, and trying to read his stuff is actually painful. And I don’t even know what tnb is.

    One last thing for anyone thinking of turning their erstwhile home into a ‘defensible position’: Your “defensible positions” are called “targets” by everybody else.

    Ah, hell. I’m going to make some pumpkin pies.

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    Special Ed says:

    One last thing for anyone thinking of turning their erstwhile home into a ‘defensible position’: Your “defensible positions” are called “targets” by everybody else.

    excellent point and one I’ve made as well, good to see it made by a professional. That knock you hear at your door is not a cop, it’s a drone fired missile.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Now then, having finished the comment thread that supposedly started the “uproar” I am going weigh in a bit.

    Some here would accuse him of overt Racism. That’s a pretty high bar to clear ladies and gentlemen. Not to mention we’re pushing a fellow into some fairly wicked company – Klan members, Black Power groups, and La Raza agitators – before we condemn a man to swim amongst such folk, we’d best be sure we know what we’re talking about. But we’ll address that as we move along the winding synaptic pathways that is the inscrutable mind of “Bruce.”

    As you all can imagine, due to his… “quirks” when it comes to written communication, things the fellow presents are often… “difficult to discern the meaning of.” But I feel with a careful examination, we can get to the bottom of this – no?

    So then. On 12/16/13, Mr. Bruce penned the following missive:

    bruce growls and barks:
    December 16, 2013 at 17:36

    he also knows how to rape rob and murder that is just tnb.

    The first part of the statement was clearly a reference to this news article here:
    ________________________________________________________________

    ‘Fake’ interpreter at Mandela ceremony once accused of murder, rape: report
    By Joe Kemp / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/fake-interpreter-mandela-ceremony-university-school-unknown-article-1.1546627

    The “fake” sign language interpreter who said he suffered a schizophrenic fit onstage at Nelson Mandela’s memorial service has a criminal history that includes charges of rape and murder, according to a report.

    Thamsanqa Jantjie – who stood near several world leaders, including President Obama, during the event at FNB Stadium in Johannesburg – has been arrested at least five times since the mid-1990s, but he allegedly dodged jail time because he was mentally unfit to stand trial, the South African news station eNCA reported Friday.

    The station found that Jantjie, 34, who has a long history of mental illness, has been arrested on suspicion of rape, theft, housebreaking and malicious damage to property. His most recent collar was in 2003, when he faced murder, attempted murder and kidnapping charges, the news station reported.
    ________________________________________________________________

    Now then, we have the letters “tnb” following the initial statement of recorded “fact.” Me not being up on my internet memes, I’ve had to do a bit of ad-hoc research on the subject:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TNB

    I see twelve possible definitions, three of which make sense in context:

    1. TNB
    Acronym for Typical Nigger Behavior
    My renter is leaving at the end of the month, because of rampant TNB in his building.

    2. TNB
    Defined as Total Nigger Bullshit. It is the behaviour of entitlement accompanied by loud obnoxiuos and overall rude behaviour common to the species.
    Ron Artest jumped into the stands and beat up a fan … talk about a major load of TNB!

    3. T.N.B
    Typical Nigger Behavior
    Woah, talk about T.N.B! That kid can’t pay his baby mama, but he’s got grillz stacked with ice.

    Now, such a closer is certainly malicious, and possibly even bigoted – however, when we look at the crime and poverty statistics the nation over… the ratios are unpleasant – let’s consider just New York:

    “In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals.

    New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirms Mac Donald’s facts. Blacks and Hispanics commit 96 percent of all crimes in the city.”

    “An analysis of ‘single offender victimization figures’ from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study.”

    Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse.
    - Human Events

    The FBI’s crime statistics do not paint a better picture on a national level:

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

    When you consider the percentages of the population we are dealing with, that’s a fairly grim picture.

    While we can probably all agree that Bruce could have certainly presented his points with more tact, and in a coherent manner, he is being factually correct, given the very real history of the interpreter, and in his meme use, when taken in context of the over-all national crime statistics.

    Mean. But factually truthful.

    Now, let’s take a look at Bruce’s other post, from 12/11/13:

    bruce growls and barks:
    December 11, 2013 at 08:47

    I bet the complainer was an affirmative action knee grow who can’t do the job but can find the time to be the leader of the thought police.i would watch this person and wait for her to say anything political then file a grievance against her.do you think management will say shit to the knee grow?

    Naturally, Bruce’s speculation as to the race of the person is simply that – speculation, and is harmless in and of itself. And the actions described using simple Hyperbole, and I might add, somewhat tamer that much of the dialog in that particular discourse.

    Essentially, those who’d hurl the race-card – not unlike Al Sharpton – are reduced to nit-picking over the use of the word “knee grow.”

    Now, the various internet resources are turning up zilch with on the phrase “knee grow,” so we can safely assume that the words represent one of two things – either a mean-spirited jab by Bruce at a statist target, or him slaughtering the spelling of the culturally acceptable term “Negro,” – which is a descriptor that sat peachy with Dr. Martin Luther King I might add.

    Now, heh, Normally – like the rest of you – I’d dismiss any claims of accidental or ignorant “typos” as ludicrous. But, this, again, is Bruce we’re talking about… and, with no insult intended, he does have… his own distinctive style when it comes to “making a point.” Often it’s devoid of grammar, punctuation, and yes, all too frequently, spelling.

    Does poor communication skills make a racist? Only if you’re sharing the mindset of Jessie Jackson.

    Racist is a pretty heavy charge. You can destroy a career, ruin a relationship, and massacre a person’s public image with such claims. Even if unfounded, recovery from such libel is difficult, if not impossible.

    “Racist” – contrary to the belief of the Obama administration, and his minions in the media, is not a charge lightly bestowed by responsible adults.

    Since we’re coping with the subject, I’ll remind you, there is quite a distinction between a “Bigot” and a “Racist.”

    racist
    rac·ist noun
    1.a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.

    Bigot
    big·ot noun
    1: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas.

    Even if… IF Bruce was not simply dragging English out back and beating it to death with a fencepost… even IF his intent was malicious… do his comments reach the point of espousing RACISM?

    I think not ladies and gentlemen. Bigoted? Perhaps. But, I don’t see him, anywhere, stating that any one race is patently superior to another.

    That Bruce is a racist is nothing more than a Red herring – a straw-man argument, carefully concocted by his accuser, and repeated ad-nausium in the hopes her fabrication would be taken as factual – and that poor Bruce would be forced to defend himself… not from his ACTUAL offenses… but from the ridiculous and wholly libelous misrepresentations of his accuser.

    An accuser, who, I might add, has a history of such behavior, as evidence by her behavior in this very thread ladies and gentlemen. Post after post, of misrepresenting her opponent’s positions, launching into brutal personal attacks, and redefining, at her whim, the definitions and meanings of anything those she has taken a dislike to say.

    I know. It’s sad folks. Nobody like to see such a person in action, but the fact is, she’s just not credible, and she’s certainly not ingenious.

    Crying racism is no joking matter, and it MUST meet a specific criteria to be such. Even if poor Bruce is not the victim of his own linguistic quirks, nothing he’s said meets such a level.

    Folks… everyone has made insensitive comments at some point – no? Angry words spoken in haste, or poorly communicated. Perhaps even bigoted? Come on… now don’t lie. You know you have. And have we all been perfectly clear in our written missives – always? I see you smiling back there. Of course we haven’t. Typos and word snarls are a sin we’ve all fallen into every so often… (some more than others), and let’s face it, occasionally it results in some pretty awkward situations.

    But before we throw our lot in with the race-baiters working for Barry Hussein Obama, before we pick up the torch and pitchforks, and start burning our own like they are witches – over patently ridiculous accusations of “racism,’ which fit no modern definition of the word – perhaps we ought to calm down, and take a nice slow breath.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

    There now. Bruce…. Poor communicator? Yeah. Mean-spirited? The Rottweiler encourages, embraces, and socially rewards that folks. Bigoted? Stretching, but in the realm.

    Racist? Not by a long shot. Not by any reasonable, thinking person’s definition. Poor Bruce’s “thought-crime” would gain zero traction beyond the detestable Southern Poverty Law Center or Eric Holder’s office at the justice department.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

    well that is a lot of impressive work you put in to defend a racist…..or bigot….take your pick.
    Parsing things like “TNB” or “knee grow” to me shows a certain level of desperation on your part.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Now, such a closer is certainly malicious, and possibly even bigoted – however, when we look at the crime and poverty statistics the nation over… the ratios are unpleasant – let’s consider just New York:

    I have been an outspoken critic of the race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton making a payday out of the Trayvon Martin shooting while completely ignoring the genocide of black youths going on in countless inner cities across this country. I taught in a high school that was top heavy with gangstas and their wannabes. It wasn’t uncommon to hear the random gunshot while leaving for the day….but to class this gang violence or the crime rampant in that area as “typical nigger behavior” is to brand an entire race and infer that it’s in their DNA to act like that. I know a lot of black kids that went on to college, were standout athletes, got scholarships to college and became decent responsible parents and spouses without exhibiting any of what bruce calls TNB. That entire argument is bogus and promotes a very negative stereotype.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Naturally, Bruce’s speculation as to the race of the person is simply that – speculation, and is harmless in and of itself. And the actions described using simple Hyperbole, and I might add, somewhat tamer that much of the dialog in that particular discourse.

    Essentially, those who’d hurl the race-card – not unlike Al Sharpton – are reduced to nit-picking over the use of the word “knee grow.”

    Now, the various internet resources are turning up zilch with on the phrase “knee grow,” so we can safely assume that the words represent one of two things – either a mean-spirited jab by Bruce at a statist target, or him slaughtering the spelling of the culturally acceptable term “Negro,” – which is a descriptor that sat peachy with Dr. Martin Luther King I might add.

    Now, heh, Normally – like the rest of you – I’d dismiss any claims of accidental or ignorant “typos” as ludicrous. But, this, again, is Bruce we’re talking about… and, with no insult intended, he does have… his own distinctive style when it comes to “making a point.” Often it’s devoid of grammar, punctuation, and yes, all too frequently, spelling.

    oh come on, do really expect us to buy that argument? you know what he meant as well as I do. and what do you mean by statist target? are you talking about obama? and does the accusation of racism still apply if he uses that term to describe that bastard in the white house? I think it does

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    That Bruce is a racist is nothing more than a Red herring – a straw-man argument, carefully concocted by his accuser, and repeated ad-nausium in the hopes her fabrication would be taken as factual – and that poor Bruce would be forced to defend himself… not from his ACTUAL offenses… but from the ridiculous and wholly libelous misrepresentations of his accuser.

    Nothing fabricated about it, I gave you the links to his racist comments…..and go back up in the comments, I was the first to call him on it. No libel, no fabrications, just hard facts and evidence to back it up.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    An accuser, who, I might add, has a history of such behavior, as evidence by her behavior in this very thread ladies and gentlemen. Post after post, of misrepresenting her opponent’s positions, launching into brutal personal attacks, and redefining, at her whim, the definitions and meanings of anything those she has taken a dislike to say.

    I know. It’s sad folks. Nobody like to see such a person in action, but the fact is, she’s just not credible, and she’s certainly not ingenious.

    Nicki and Nat are both dear friends of mine, artists in their own right…..where my medium is 3D computer graphics and pencils and paints, theirs is a very colorful use of the English language. You would be well advised to not piss them off too much as they’ll launch on you in their native Russian. :em06:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Crying racism is no joking matter, and it MUST meet a specific criteria to be such. Even if poor Bruce is not the victim of his own linguistic quirks, nothing he’s said meets such a level.

    Folks… everyone has made insensitive comments at some point – no? Angry words spoken in haste, or poorly communicated. Perhaps even bigoted? Come on… now don’t lie. You know you have. And have we all been perfectly clear in our written missives – always? I see you smiling back there. Of course we haven’t. Typos and word snarls are a sin we’ve all fallen into every so often… (some more than others), and let’s face it, occasionally it results in some pretty awkward situations.

    we all make typos yes, repeating the racist language in pretty much every post? that’s a different ballgame altogether. There is a pattern here and it’s very easy to see.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    There now. Bruce…. Poor communicator? Yeah. Mean-spirited? The Rottweiler encourages, embraces, and socially rewards that folks. Bigoted? Stretching, but in the realm.

    Racist? Not by a long shot. Not by any reasonable, thinking person’s definition. Poor Bruce’s “thought-crime” would gain zero traction beyond the detestable Southern Poverty Law Center or Eric Holder’s office at the justice department.

    I have been a Rottie in good standing for about 10 + years now, have had numerous posts published on the front page as well as a lot of graphics that I have worked up over the years. I’ve done work for Misha compiling posts of our most eloquent member ever….a grand old gentleman named Warspite, the compilation I did was hard linked on the front page here for years. I know all about the language and personalities that make up this community, I have seen almost no racism or racist comments here until recently. If anyone knows what the Rott embraces it’s me. The coarseness of the language here adds to the personality and fun of the site…..I love it, and revel in it but lately I’ve seen that personality and fun soured with stuff like bruce posts. I don’t want him banned, I don’t want anyone banned, just measure the words before you post them, there’s no room for that kind of shit here.

    that’s all

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Thanks. I had a good deal of fun writing it.

    In a prior existence, I’d typically create a rough outline like the above during jury selection, and then adjust the script over the course of the trial – as I got to know the jurors better. You watch the jury, not the judge, not the other lawyer. You mind what bores them, see what pisses ‘em off, or makes them laugh. They are the only audience that matters, and you need to form a personal relationship with them, then cater to their biases and prejudices better than the “enemy.” If your opponent or their client messes up, and hands you an opening, that’s just bonus points.

    It’s enjoyable to do every so often now that it’s no longer “a day at work.” Also, I can afford to ham it up a bit and focus on the “fun” part when there is effectively zero consequences for a “bomb.” FAR easier – since you don’t spend a sleepless night agonizing over an anecdote that is either going to get a chuckle from the box, or stick a person who put all of their faith in you with a really nasty alimony payment.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Hemp, you would make MSNBC proud with that spin.

    Stop acting you speak for all of Rotties. You do not. Just stop.

    What’s amusing is how you accuse Nicki of “misrepresenting” her “opponent’s” position. Look dude, you are really high on yourself. Your posts are so long winded that by the time you finish a four lined sentence, you forget the point. You cannot defend a racist prick and whine about Nicki in the same breath stating what you think the Rott embraces. That double-speak bullshit doesn’t work here.

    But one point you made very clear, is your lame lawyer attempt to defend a blatant racist comment. Not only is what “Bruce” said racist, it is obviously racist. Your attempt to defend him shows a blatant desire to not just swim in his shit that stinks up this blog, it shows your willingness to tolerate and excuse racism.

    And please don’t presume to lecture us long time Rotts what is sad. We aren’t your jury and your attempt to dismiss someone as such is pathetic.

    I’m with Jay. I’ve been around for 10+ years. It’s extremist pricks like you and racist assholes like Bruce that kept me from posting. My restraint is gone.

    Your attempt to form a relationship here is very poor. If I were in your “audience” as a juror, I would see you for what you appear to be—a sleazy, narcistic, sanctimonious prick of a lawyer. I would be insulted at your lame attempt to defend a racist bigot. And go start your own blog if you need to constantly talk about your days as a lawyer. Most lawyers suck…you are in way better company with liberal arrogant politicians than with warriors. So far, after witnessing your bloviating…the most use you would have in the Rott is picking up our dogs’ shit.

    So do us all a favor and stop this “we” bullshit. You apparently do not know us longtime Rotts. And you certainly do not speak for us.

    Capisce?

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Well Ma’am… afraid I’m going to have to disagree with your false premise, misrepresentations, appeals to authority and your other informal fallacies.

    No offense intended. You have yourself a pleasant evening Ma’am.

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    while completely ignoring the genocide of black youths going on in countless inner cities across this country.

    Sorry to be contrary here, but can we at least dispense with the hysterical “genocide” moniker IRT to Black on Black violence in inner cities please?

    I cringe every time I hear that used in the debate arena – it’s not Genocide, how does one commit genocide on its own ethnic group? Genocide is generally accepted as an ethnic cleansing for purity of a single subset oft times more based on religion than race, i.e The German vs Jewish Holocaust – The Arabs vs Kurdish, etc.

    That said, I’ll take off my dictionary Nazi uniform now… :em05:

    As to the running battle on this thread – Here’s my 2 cents.

    I must be slipping behind the times, as I for one, like Niki, didn’t even know what the hell “TNB” meant – but I will posit that until the “culture” of the inner cities where the murder rates are sky rocking – gang violence is epidemic – out of wedlock births are the norm, then the simple fact of the matter is that same self “culture” in fact is helping to perpetuate that sort of thing all on it’s own. Add in a resentment of people who probably are seeing their tax dollars go down a black hole, and all the while things continually grow worse and worse in the all sorts of “communities” – and you just kick started the “racism” nuclear reactor.

    While I am on the subject of “resentment”, While taken from what I see as the wrong side of the ideological divide – Obama wasn’t completely wrong with his “bitter clingers” remarks. There IS bitterness in areas of the country like the rust belt and deep south. Is it racism ? That’s probably a stretch, but does that “bitterness” in turn help to foster racism… you can bank on it.

    But where Obama is wrong, he has to couch it differently not just as a “white bible thumper” issue, because it cuts both ways. To be stereo typical here – Blacks in the rust belt are every fucking bit just as bitter as any white in the south, because of things like diminished economic opportunity. So they blame the “White man” for “keeping them down”. The White Man looks at 60 years of “social justice” and “war on poverty” as the abject failures that they have become and …bing….blames the Black for being a bunch of “TNB’s”, and ……your racism reactor hums right along merrily with power to spare, sadly…..because we have an idjit like Obama on center stage saying STUPID shit and the gullible eat it up with a spoon.

    Like they say “it is what it is”, and right or wrong, these terms like “TNB” don’t just appear out of thin air, there’s reasons why they crop up, and in this particular case, that reason is the perpetual violence committed by young _____ , insert the PC or ethic label or other term as you see fit.

    I fail at comprehension here, forgive me, but I don’t really get the whole “knee grow” thing – my brain doesn’t connect where this is some sort of slur or why? It makes no sense to me.

    Anyhow, Is it right ? No. Hell, I had that ignorant slut from Britain and his henchman DJ call me racist on here for calling Obama a “lawn jockey” – so I guess I’m a racist, whatever. But that was simply a knee jerk reaction from those two, and I think Obama is STILL a lawn jockey in the same vein as something that may be pretty to look at but is utterly and completely useless and serves no other viable functions.

    This is getting long winded, I didn’t mean for that to happen, but In my world view, I’ve served, worked, lived and played with damn every single race on the face of the planet, I think I might be missing out on the Eskimos or something, Never been that far north…and staring 50 in the face, I’ve come to learn that they all have a pretty identifiable make up….a central core of decent folks, and then the outliers – the social inept, the misfits, the race mongers and the bitching and whining crowd. Frankly, It’s just plain old humanity on display.

    Where the PC Nazi crowd errs – grievously I might add, is continually handing the stage over to the perpetually aggrieved vs the central core folks. Dr. Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell and Bill Cosby immediately jumps to mind here.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Why… if I didn’t clearly know better sir… I’d get the notion this entire “racism inquisition” is nothing more than a pretext seized upon to justify the venting of preexisting frustrations….

    …but that’s a silly insinuation. I’m 100% positive nobody round these parts would stoop to that.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    False premise? Misrepresentations? Nope. My opinion is correct because it is my opinion. And based on years of being a Rottie, founded on experience. Accusing someone of libel though…very nasty accusation there. I think a reasonable jury would find that calling Bruce a racist is well founded. The burden if proof is on the accuser and his case is pretty darn weak.

    The misrepresentation and false premise falls on your shoulders. Your argument defending a racist and your bullshit attempt to degenerate his accuser shows you are the one with issues of misrepresentation and false premise. Tsk, tsk.

    My only authority is the good Lord above. I gave no appeal to authority. I don’t have to. If you are referring to my speaking about us long time Rotts, that isn’t an appeal. It’s called a qualification. I’ve been around for a long time. I assure you of that.

    Fallacy…uh, okay. I’m not the one trying to say black is white. Trying to say a blatant racist isn’t one.

    And even if you intended offense, arrogant pricks who employ doublespeak don’t offend me one little bit.

    Now go back to pretending you are John Grisham and trying to explain why Rosa Parks being asked go to the back of the bus was because the seat was better since your client the bus driver was doing her a favor because he had a bad case of gas and constantly shots his pants.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with your faulty interpretation of the situation and my position Ma’am.

    You’d probably be an interesting and delightful person to have a discussion with – but I am after all a gentleman, and I’d be rude to interrupt your current conversation(s). But when you and your field of scarecrows finish chatting, I’m sure we can have a wonderful discussion.

    /hat-tip

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    And Snarl…racist slang is wrong. Just as wrong as it is to ignore Mandela’s Jewish hating, communistic and terrorist supporting views.

    I agree that being overtly PC is wrong but this is just plain wrong. I am part French Creole and sorry, it’s just wrong. I expect more from Rotties. But then again, I don’t, nor do I think many other long time Rotties consider the like of this bloviating fool and his buddies fit to sweep the Empire floor.

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    LC Staci GBOR says:

    And Snarl…racist slang is wrong. Just as wrong as it is to ignore Mandela’s Jewish hating, communistic and terrorist supporting views.

    Staci, I think I clearly stated it was wrong in my post.

    Anyhow, Is it right ? No.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Faulty interpretation? I’m nterpreting your own words.

    Field of scarecrows!? Makes no sense. I’m not working with long winded lawyers at the moment,

    As for a real conversation…don’t see it happening. I find you annoying in the fingers on a chalkboard kind of way. And I’ll pass if you ever go to a Rottfest. I deal with people like you and refuse to so while I’m not at work. I get paid to interpret crap like yours. I’ve sifted through many but you dug your hole. You can’t excuse racism and think many others are cool with it.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    But then again, I don’t, nor do I think many other long time Rotties consider the like of this bloviating fool and his buddies fit to sweep the Empire floor.

    Now Ma’am, don’t be lumping too much disrespect on the Imperial Custodial and Sanitation Department. (ICSD)

    For one, we quite enjoy sweeping and mopping the satin black tiles of the Death Star to a shimmering gleam after a hard day in the trash compactor, spent clearing out tentacle beasts and smashed astro-droid parts. We get a sense of pride every time our Emperor sees his reflection and sneers with glee.

    For two, our services help keep everyone healthy and safe, from the lowliest Stormtrooper using the positronic waist disposal unit to the beverage dispensers for the Admirals dinner scheduled at 1300 – I hear Lord Vader himself will be in attendance!

    ICSD – Bringing peace and order to the Galaxy – one waist disposal unit at a time!

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Like they say “it is what it is”, and right or wrong, these terms like “TNB” don’t just appear out of thin air, there’s reasons why they crop up, and in this particular case, that reason is the perpetual violence committed by young _____ , insert the PC or ethic label or other term as you see fit.

    I misinterpreted that statement. Sorry. I usually read this stuff and haven’t posted until the better half retired. So I can now “play” if you will and not worry about being PC because it is unbecoming of a general’s wife.

    Again, my apologies.

    I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.

    I’ll go back to watching and jumping in when jerkoff posters make the Rott look bad like this. It’s exhausting and not fun. The Rott and its long time presence says a lot about this place and it’s long time members.

    Cheers!

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Well Ma’am, I’m afraid you’re just hurting yourself. I don’t see any folks round these parts forcing you at gun-point to read any of my missives. Sadly, you’re just working yourself up to no practical effect on this end. Now if these outbursts are making you feel better… well then – I’m glad I could be of assistance.

    But as to your dislike of the caricature you’ve crafted for me… I wish there was something I could do to help, but, since it’s a beast of your own concoction, I am a bit limited in the assistance I can offer.

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    LC Staci GBOR says:

    Like they say “it is what it is”, and right or wrong, these terms like “TNB” don’t just appear out of thin air, there’s reasons why they crop up, and in this particular case, that reason is the perpetual violence committed by young _____ , insert the PC or ethic label or other term as you see fit.

    I misinterpreted that statement. Sorry. I usually read this stuff and haven’t posted until the better half retired. So I can now “play” if you will and not worry about being PC because it is unbecoming of a general’s wife.
    Again, my apologies.
    I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.
    I’ll go back to watching and jumping in when jerkoff posters make the Rott look bad like this. It’s exhausting and not fun. The Rott and its long time presence says a lot about this place and it’s long time members.
    Cheers!

    No apologies needed, just clearing up my point of view.

    As to the whole monitoring thing ? Let ‘em.

    As I see it – The squeaky wheel get’s the grease – Posters here have started to squeak, they got thoroughly greased. Did I personally ? No, I saw no need to – the posters that took issue don’t need my help in this, they are doing quite fine all on their own.

    If someone, somehow in some way can actually interpret this debate as “The AIR is a bunch of racist homophobes” I just don’t know how to even respond to that, other than say, remedial English is taught in college these days, it might help with the whole reading comprehension thingy…jus’ sayin’…. :em03:
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Might some kind soul please direct me to a link featuring the moonbats suffering a nervous breakdown over comments made on the AIR?

    First and foremost, I’d be interested to see exactly what particular outfits are monitoring the various outposts of liberty on ye ole’web. Additionally, I believe I might just have a great deal of fun with those folks - if provided an opportunity.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.

    So, I’m on the phone pestering the nephew to use his web-fu, but all he’s turning up is stuff from from Daily Pundit, Cold Fury, WRSA, Sipsey Street Irregulars, Darth Venomous’s Site, Angry Webmaster, TTAG, Whiskey in a Jar-O, and some really really old ones from Instapundit.

    He says if you just mention the domain name, he’ll track down any posts about the Rotties being “racists” – by this point I’m sure more than a few inquiring minds are curious to know which convent of Commies are working themselves up over a small outfit like Misha’s Empire. (I know I for one am pretty curious).

    They bear a bit of watching themselves I should think.

    Once you give us the domain name, he can do fun things like find out who’s paying for the site, where it’s hosted, etc.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR @ #:
    I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.

    As an added bonus, when you provide me the website alleging the AIR is defending racists, I can promise that rather than casually dispersing your straw-man battalion, I’ll be inclined to go torment some deserving moonbats for the holidays.

    Wish them a Merry CHRISTmas and other essential seasonal salutations – that ought to rankle them more than a bit. I am thinking of having the Nephew make me an image of those Duck guys with the beards for a portrait. (Sorry, don’t watch T.V.)

    …Because Ma’am… from the way I see it, I’m rather positive Rotties can spend their energies in a more productive way than taking pot-shots at one another.

    If you’d be so kind as to toss the inquisitive that URL, we’d be much obliged.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR @ #:
    I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.

    The Nephew also says, if you can just give him the blog and a user-name of the person who said that liberal websites are claiming the AIR is defending racists, he’d be quite happy to do the leg-work on your behalf – register, log-in, get in touch with them and everything!

    The prospect of having a website full of leftists to really poke with a sharpened stick is rather tickling my fancy.

    Thanks again for the assistance Ma’am, and an additional thanks for bringing this to our attention. Quite a few people have to be pretty interested by this point.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR @ #: I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.

    Well the Nephew is going to bed, but I’ll stick around for a while longer, and piddle about the web. When you’re ready to hand off the name of the website that you claim is asserting the AIR is defending racists – or the forum where someone said it was happening – I’ll shuffle it off to him and he’ll solve the mystery for us.

    I think this could shape up to be a fine holiday Ma’am. You’ll not have to worry about me for a bit, and I can spend a bit of quality time getting the moonbats familiar with the phrase ótti ok kvöl!!!!

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Giving a URL. Uh, no. I assure you I have quite the reputation of inside info on these blogs. There are blogs out there like Dummie Funnies, not as mainstream, but nonetheless a following that rely on that discretion. They aren’t open without logon…the dark net. Where all kinds hang out…like careers and the such. But..they have been quoted before. Shoot, many “private” forums aren’t searchable on the main Internet.

    You’d be more productive by calling out blatant racism. It would be less tedious if you would just write like a person instead of a lawyer. That’s not a pot-shot, that is merely an observation. And while Misha most likely doesn’t care…it is the embracing of racist stuff like in this threads comments that make it difficult to share this with growing platforms.

    I don’t care either about mocking liberal, intolerant atheists. I like to understand them to be able to adequately defend their attacks. They LOVE to throw this stuff out there. They tried to use quasi debates with “conservative” defense against racist ephitats against people Iike Hannah Giles. I saw it! The family had to hire bodyguards when her father did his weekly sermon! The stuff Brietbart went through behind the scenes regarding stress and defending deranged fans…you have no idea.

    Look, I’m the last person who anyone can call PC. I hate it. I don’t believe you can regulate morality either. All you can do is protect and defend basic humanity as described in the good book of our Lord as an example. You can play semantics or someone else defending crap that is racist…but Bruce should not have needed a long drawn out defense from a lawyer. You think the casual reader is going to care? They aren’t necessarily the audience you are catering to…but one you should care about.

    Regarding your desire to use CHRIST to rankle someone, that is sad. Every holiday card I get says Merry Christmas on it. My Christian friends get it, Jewish friends get it, my Buddist friends get it, my atheist friends, and everyone else. I do it for the right reasons…to spread joy. Jesus wasn’t born on this earth to mock others. And when presented with the love He showed us, it won’t offend them. It may just change their hearts.

    This reminds me of how my brother in law, his fiancé, her two kids, and shithead dog visited my house this past weekend. The dog wasn’t potty trained and apparently one of the kids wasn’t either. My brand new couch 2weeks) she slept on is right now on its 4th soak down and my imported oriental rugs are finally clean. What pisses me off is not the dog who is untrained or the kid…they will nit be staying here again mind you…but the lack of acknowledgement or remorse. People fuck up. We all do. But owning up is something those of us evil right wing fascists pride ourselves on.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Meant carders…not careers. Edit didn’t work for me.

    I’m going to go pour this awesome man of mine a Blue and me a dirty martini. Find another defense for TNB besides urbandictionary. It’s as lame as someone using Wikipedia in there college thesis when you are trying to sound all lawyerly.

    Try conversing like you have in the last few posts…it makes you sound real. And it seems Bruce is your buddy…maybe you can explain to him a little about decorum regarding crab like TNB. It’s really a gross term…conservative black people and those of us mixed…uh, no. It’s like calling all women c*nts. I could go on, but I digress. You choose.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR @ #: I just had someone tell me on another blog and then other Rotties that racist crap was being defended here and I couldn’t believe it. Some liberal blogs are monitoring this right now hoping to prove we are “racist”, homophobic, etc.

    Now Ma’am, I understand you’ve developed a bit of a disliking for me. As much as I’d like to fix that, unfortunately – for the both of us – your particular situation is based on a something you’ve conjured up yourself. I can’t do much about the notions you want to entertain. No offense intended Ma’am.

    That aside, I understand how your fabricated mental perception of me might generate some reluctance, but quite a few folks would love to see this liberal blog you’re teasing us up over.

    Or, alternately, you can direct a few fellers to the website where your good pal was telling you about this little cluster of leftist mud-dobbers. Then we can go look and see where exactly they’re nesting up under the awnings.

    What we don’t want however, is for people to start questioning your authenticity. Now me, I have nothing but unwavering trust in your word – you seem like a pretty earnest lady, with her heart squarely set in the right spot. In fact, my faith in you is such that I’m sure there isn’t much you’d not do or say if you felt the cause was just. I know you’d never create a fictional detail like that to support a lynching – why… it’d be just offensive to even suggest that.

    But ya need to understand, many other fellers ain’t that open minded. They don’t know you like I do – and after you’ve gone out of your way to directly pen me a few thousands words, I feel as though I’ve come to know you pretty well Ma’am. In a totally platonic sense of course, I’m aware you’re spoken for, and a lucky feller he is.

    Now, I know you got quite a few loyal friends round these parts – who’ll charge to your aid against any of those folks who’d besmirch your reputation. And that loyalty Ma’am, speaks well for your character. They’ll circle the wagons, pull out the Henry’s, and toss a metric ton of rifled lead in the general direction of your detractors – cause they all care for ya. Friendship is the most valuable asset.

    But…. most everyone around these parts, is also a critical thinker. They really do read, digest, and consider the stuff that gets written here. Some of it, well, they just don’t like it – and boy do they make it known. That said, they do give it some thought – we ain’t barking moonbats after all… well… other than DJ Voldemort.

    Well, when you don’t want to hand over this website, or provide useable info so we can track down this nest of vipers ourselves, some folks might find that a bit unsettling.

    Of course, we all know that your companions, (and people like myself), will only harbor that little bitty bit of doubt – for a millisecond. No. Less than that even. It’ll be compartmentalized, snorted at, and shuffled off and forgotten as ridiculous nonsense. In fact, I won’t even do that Ma’am…. because you’ve done a superb job of proving to me how you put everything you’ve got into a debate. You leave nothing out, no detail is omitted, and you’re unquestioningly thorough in presenting your facts. A true and noble fighter. If you’re in the right, you’ll use every tool there is to win, and I think that’s a hell of an admirable trait.

    So, I am completely confident that you will point us all in the right direction, not to indulge me mind you – as you’ve earned my trust – but to spare your friends that tiny, insignificant nano-second of doubt. They’ll still love you no matter what – but you love them too – so no sense in twisting them all up like that.

    I’ll be looking forward to that link Ma’am! It was nice chatting these past couple of days.

    I think will be fun for everyone here to see how we’ve become ‘famous” amongst the libtard troglodytes. Now, If you have a particular animus against me, you could always hand the URL off to a trusted source, like Misha – I bet he’s more than curious too, since it’s his Death Star and all.

    Thanks again for the assistance Ma’am!

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    And I am a bit interested about this nefarious “dark web.” I am certain Misha or perhaps Darth Venomous could find a way to be discreet in helping us get to the bottom of this rapidly deepening mystery Ma’am

    I’ll have to discuss this mystery new search-proof inter-net with the Nephew in the morning.

  84. 84

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    As an added bonus, when you provide me the website alleging the AIR is defending racists, I can promise that rather than casually dispersing your straw-man battalion, I’ll be inclined to go torment some deserving moonbats for the holidays.

    The whole point Hemp is that we Rotties….Beer Drinkers (excluding me for personal reasons) and Hell Raisers that we are…..have a certain reputation that we value very highly. If you want to skewer progressives er possessives, then by all means do so, invite them to register here so we can all join in the cluebatting, I’m sure you know a few.

    What you need to remember is that we long term Rotties are pretty protective of this place. The ones that are posting now, like Nat and Nicki and Staci and others are coming back because we had some very legitimate concerns about the tone of the comments from newer members like bruce and others, racism….calling for the killing of cops…etc etc. That is not what we are, we’re patriots and patriots don’t go around advocating for any kind of cleansing of the population be it political, ideaological, or anything. We WILL deal with the enemies of this country, but we won’t do it by destroying this country and trying to build it back from the pieces.

    You discredit your intellect and your character by going to such great lengths to defend such blatantly racist behavior, something very “not right” about that. Sorry man, but that just doesn’t do the Rott justice in my book……

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Ahh but sir, I’ve seen a too many inquisitions in my time, and I’m not so willing to play the PC police game.

    I discredit nothing. Everyone deserves counsel. Especially those least able to provide it for themselves.

    I understand that Hyperbole is the internet’s native language, but I see these attacks on folks that can’t properly defend themselves, and a part of me jumps into Public Defender mode.

    Partially for the nostalgia of it, partially because I am a contrarian at heart, and also because I dislike an unfair fight.

    I, and some others singled out by the mob, are more than capable of dealing with any possible amount of push back. Some folks aren’t.

    Bruce wasn’t meandering around spouting anything I’d even consider close to racism. I’ve SEEN real racists – of many colors. I’ve even defended them. Not from a love of the things they spout. But because everyone deserves a trial, and quite often some pretty horrific shit get’s made up whole cloth, mistakes happen, and sometimes unjust charges get pinned on a totally deserving complete douchebags.

    This was once upon a time, a nation of laws, and I tried with all my might to uphold that. Even when that meant getting a slime-weasel off. (I will note, that people that were truly guilty of the CRIME THEY WERE BEING CHARGED FOR, I recommended a plea bargain.)

    Even the person that is deigned untouchable, even the most hated man, deserves good representation. Because someday, that person who is being declared “unclean” by the mob, might just be you.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Ahh but sir, I’ve seen a too many inquisitions in my time, and I’m not so willing to play the PC police game.

    I understand that, but believe me….and you should know this already from being here…..there is absolutely nothing PC about what any of us said about those remarks. I actually find that kind of insulting to tell you the truth. We’re coming at it from the position that we are NOT like that, we don’t blame a race, we don’t blame a nationality, we don’t blame a social strata, we blame a perverse corrupt godless ideaology for the troubles that this country faces. that is our enemy, not some knee-grow behavior. that kind of thing cheapens our message and our focus and our legitimacy.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Hemp, I don’t dislike you. My feelings are rather indifferent. I resent your actions though. You don’t speak for me or other Rotts.

    I will not present my source(s). I have never been wrong before so you’re leading into my lack of credibility doesn’t phase me. Not. One. Bit. And my companions? LOL…okay. You obviously do not know me at all. I just know this place. A place I’ve respected. Even DJ…he helped build these walls. So just knock it off. No one needs to defend me. I do fine on my own.

    And there is nothing to win. Asking for some honor and integrity is not about winning. I gave you a sincere, independent reply and to you this is a game.

    Again…I’m not into the PC police game. But this isn’t the KKK or other extremist white supremist group. That is the bottom line.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Now Ma’am – I’d be very interested to see where anyone is promoting the ideals or literature of the KKK. If you could be so kind as to steer me to a post where some Rottie is clearly espousing such a position, I will be the first to dismiss such tripe as ignorant literary diarrhea.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Now, while I am a relatively brave man, one thing I won’t do is risk the wrath of the Niece-in-law by jingling the phone at such an ungodly hour. The three sleeping grand-terror…er…uh…angels should be allowed their beauty rest.

    However, I am not totally without resources, and I was able to contact the chap who set up my PC and router for me:

    me: You’re the MacGuyver of PCs dear sir, might I bother you for a moment.

    REDACTED: hmm how

    me: Give me a moment,

    me: Some things were mentioned that seemed somewhat… off.. in a form post – business about a secret dark web that’s not searchable, and how this sinister local is cloaking all manner of unsavory characters as they say nefarious things regarding a the website in question.

    REDACTED: Uh… why do you fkn care

    me: Indulge me if you please.

    REDACTED: in theory its maybe searchable, but probably only other darknet sites would have working links to get to the indexed sites

    me: Pretend I have the internet voodoo of a 10 year old.

    REDACTED: you’re shortselling 10yr olds. the way I understood it was it worked on it’s own set of DNS and TOR addresses

    REDACTED: so who gives a shit if it is not searchable what they say

    REDACTED: not going to end up on your search results.

    REDACTED: Gimme post?

    me: The Post: “Uh, no. I assure you I have quite the reputation of inside info on these blogs. There are blogs out there like Dummie Funnies, not as mainstream, but nonetheless a following that rely on that discretion. They aren’t open without logon…the dark net. Where all kinds hang out…like careers and the such. But..they have been quoted before. Shoot, many “private” forums aren’t searchable on the main Internet.”

    me: There you are.

    REDACTED: yeah that’s not darknet lol, I was just refreshing on wikipedia and it says right on the linking page, not to be confused with DEEP WEB, or login fronted sites

    REDACTED: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Internet

    REDACTED: darknet is more shady shit. it’s a bad alias for deep web basically

    REDACTED: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet_%28file_sharing%29

    me: So, this smells of bovine scatology?

    REDACTED: Wut?

    me: Bullshit.

    REDACTED: basically PRIVATE FORUm is the term she’s retarded

    me: Well that’s not quite civil. I may edit that part out.

    REDACTED: learned some cool slang she thinks applies

    REDACTED: anyone who calls private / login only forums or blogs dark net is just pretending to be a lot more sophisticated and cool than they really are.

    REDACTED: the deep web page linked on my first wiki link describes it well, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Web , and stupidly lists dark net as an alias followed by “not to be confused with dark internet” …

    REDACTED: sorry ‘dark web’

    me: Your knowledge is invaluable.

    REDACTED: A good summary of a real darknet: “that answer is more to grab attention then anything else. there’s no internet provider called darknet. you use a large internet provider, or a subsidiary of a larger pipeline, and then you use some sort of routing/vpn protocol based application that changes your network settings to allow you access to the darknet of your choice, TOR, I2P, etc or if you want to, connect to a meshnet node if one is in your area, and using cjdns, browse around the meshnet, and if one or more of the nodes has access to the internet. you’ll be able to get on to a website on the internet”
    non-indexable sites are still on the surface, thus not dark.

    REDACTED: I don’t disagree with the term deep web applying though, the anology of search engines skimming the ocean’s surface and not seeing the deeper contents makes sense.

    REDACTED: darknet/undernet means you’re not even on the surface of the web anymore implying standard TCP/IP + DNS technies do not apply to an undernet, different routing and domain techniques are used to obscure the contents of the whole ecosystem

    me: I owe you dinner.

    Fascinating discussion.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Start by dismissing Bruce’s TNB crap. Stop by advocating extremist crap. That is the literary diarrhea which you attempted to defend.

    Those are the ideals you are defending. It’s quite simple. Instead of trying to beat “me” in a game of semantics…you could just own how comments like that are wrong. You backed the wrong thing. Period.

    This isn’t a court. And if brucey boy wants to spew his crap, he doesn’t need a lawyer. He needs to be called out on it. He needs someone who will tell take him to shut up school. You claim to be conservative…well an abled minded person, behind a keyboard, should defend his own crap. It is called personal responsibility. It is being fair. If I verbally threw up all over the place and said something stupid…I apologize when called out. Not call the waaambulance.

    It makes me wonder if this is the kind of debate that goes on at MSNBC when it comes to their anchors saying vile crap.

    And if you had any idea who I am, what’s my story, and what I’ve experienced…you would know I would not just throw someone under the bus. I hate injustice. At his moment more than anyone I know. And racism…I’ve seen it very close to home…like right at me. The hurtful kind…not something someone throws out stupidly.

    You are doing Bruce no favor. What he needs is a good slap on the head to knock some sense into him. And if he wants to dish that crap out here…he needs to learn you don’t take a knife to a gun fight. If not…he needs to go change his diaper and practice at the Fischer Price kiddie blog until he grows a pair. This place attracts all kinds…and I assure you…it’s diversified enough where that crap will offend the most conservative colored person…and I say colored to refer to anyone outside the Anglo Saxon “race”.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    You proved nothing. LOL. retarded? Nope. Not at all. Actually…too honest.

    Dark web is another name used by many. It’s referred to by many. Why would I make that up? I don’t need to qualify myself to you. There are many here who know me and know I wouldn’t make that up. And to the people who watch this shit. Call it what you want…but there are parts that are not indexable or searchable. Parts are monitored by intelligence and other parts are used to be obscure. Some indices are known. Some I had to get clearance when researching something so I wasn’t put on a watch list by our Feds. Be sure to go buy your friend a pop tart at most. Anyone can look on Wikipedia.

    So you proved nothing except trying to deflect your defense of a racist and ignoring the many long time Rotts who don’t appreciate you hurting their reputation by projecting you speak for Rotts in general.

    BTW, I used forums as an example of other areas not searchable on the regular net. Should I call YOU retarded for your lack of reading comprehension or just a disingenuous prick?

    You go ahead and continue to justify your defense of a racist and continue to deflect…but my job is done as far as making it clear to the reading public exactly what you are. And to the people who watch this shit.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    So Ma’am, what you’re saying, in an enthralling way – don’t get me wrong – is that you can’t really give me any links and quotes that clearly denote racism? Contrary to what you might have been told on CNN, racism is a very specific ideology.

    Now… I’ll agree, you’ve provided some touching personal anecdotes, and we all sympathize with your situation. You’ve earned my deepest condolences for any racial abuse that took place in your life, and I’m sorry that it’s made you a bit hyper-sensitive with regards to the subject. In the long run, I don’t think anybody is going to fault you for it.

    I certainly don’t.

    I do notice a bit of aspiration cast on the minimalistic research I’ve requisitioned. Now, it’s true, I don’t have a nifty forensics team at my beckon call, but still, I couldn’t help but notice that you’re rather fixated on the sources, rather than the material in question.

    I know you’re a smart gal, you’ve made that amply clear to everybody, I am sure all of this techno wizardry is something you can easily refute, so we’ll gladly hand you the floor, so you can bequeath us with Prometheus’s torch.

    Much obliged Ma’am.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    You’ve been provided with links with examples already. I gave you no “personal anecdotes”. And again…you say we. Is this you, you and Bruce, or your imaginary compadres?

    And contrary to your many ad hominen attacks to what I think, feel, watch or whatever…like I said, you know nothing about me and keep veering further from the truth. That is what is enthralling and so very entertaining.

    Keep it up. You are just proving a point I made earlier. On that note…go back to planning your future defense on racist acronyms. Keep digging with the shovel in your hand. Everyone is watching. And you now have a captive audience. Just not in the way you think! :em05:

    So cheers! :em01:

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    “At his moment more than anyone I know. And racism…I’ve seen it very close to home…like right at me. The hurtful kind…not something someone throws out stupidly.”

    anecdote
    noun
    1.a brief account of a particular event or past incident, used to amuse or persuade.

    Now as to my civility, I’ve been nothing but a perfect gentleman Ma’am – in the face of what’s been some fairly blistering venting on your part. Fortunately, I have crocodile skin, and as has been stated previously – most folks here just don’t hold the sorts of views that get me chewing at the bit.

    Sure, I enjoy a bit of rough play, but it’s like a pup chewing a sock – there’s no malice behind the bite. At the end of the night, this entire kerfuffle is really a good deal of fun for me. And, since you’re getting the opportunity to pretty much unload any sort of ordinance you’d like, with no significant return fire, I can’t imagine you’re having a bad time either.

    You’re still here after all.

    Now then… back to our game… were you failing to assert the justification for your opinions, or presenting another false dilemma? I beg your pardon, but after 93 posts or so it all starts to bleed together…

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR says:

    And while Misha most likely doesn’t care…it is the embracing of racist stuff like in this threads comments that make it difficult to share this with growing platforms.

    Tardy to the Party again.

    Dearest Staci, I most assuredly do care. Unless you meant the level of care I show towards what ProgSocs call me or allege about me and my site. They are like weak farts into a level 5 hurricane to me. Neither their opinions, nor their existence matters to me. Except as a source for endless ridicule and mockery, of course :)

    But if this place, amongst ourselves, is seen to embrace racism and that perception goes beyond just a single comment typed in anger or so, then I most assuredly do care. I will have no truck with racists and I abide no excuses for racism in any of its variants.

    Anybody want to speak out against that go right ahead, with my blessings, and add me to the vote.

    Bruce’s comment… Hmmm… While I can’t pretend to look into a man’s soul and thus cannot say if he himself is a racist, I can certainly say that the expressions used were. And I don’t consider it unreasonable at all for anybody to start wondering if the person using those expressions is, himself, a racist. The answer to that one is between the utterer and G-d, but the expression itself can quite easily be judged on its own merit.

    Sure, there are expressions that are racist to some and not to others, and I know that I myself have used expressions in the past that were at least borderline if not, on rare shameful occasions, across the line.

    Thankfully, people have called me on it so I can agree or disagree and, if I agree, work harder to avoid sticking my feet in my mouth in the future.

    Bottom line to me is that those expressions (once I’d looked one of them up seeing as I, obviously, am behind the times too) are racist. To me. Doesn’t mean that everybody in the universe needs to agree with me, I just want to make abundantly clear that I want nothing to do with those sentiments.

    And please, if something pisses you off, please DO speak up.

    Thanks for doing so, all of you, because that’s what we’re all about. Speaking up and not taking shit sitting down.

    Oh, and BOOB! PENIS also!

    :em01:
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    Mish, doll – check your Verizon, please. Danke!
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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    This thread looked pretty unpromising on my last visit, and I wasn’t going to comment, but it seems all hell has broken loose in the last few days, and I am to be dragged in. It looks like the show tonight is To Kill a MockingBruce, with HempRopeAndStreetlight as the defense attorney. How bizarre!
    One thing nobody else has mentioned in considering his provocative style is Bruce himself. Clearly the gentleman has a lot of issues with anger. But then, so also most of us at the Rottie, and particularly those of us participating in this particular discussion thread. Might something in Bruce’s past have some bearing on his perceived racism or animosities?

    First of all, I have found that we all of us have our preferences and animosities, some stronger, some less strong; some with justification. Among the natives of my area there is a particularly strong, lingering dislike of Japanese due to the fact that many of our older-timers were captured on Bataan. I am personally quite pro-Japanese, never having shared their opinion. So I accept and tolerate their particular intolerance. Likewise, I accept the intolerance of Jews toward anything German, even while not sharing it. I will come clean and admit that among my personal preferences and dislikes, is an irreconcilable bigotry against Gypsies – something to do with a “kinetic” encounter some years ago between Rurik and a dozen gypsies some years ago, reinforced by numerous other, consistent observations.
    To borrow from Florence King, I’m not prejudiced, I’m postjudiced, it is the tribute judgment pays to experience. With Blacks, Jews, Mexicans, and other groups, my experiences have been mixed, a preponderance of good or bad for each group, but with enough counter-exceptions to moderate my feelings in either way. I have NO good gypsy experience.
    Among other ethnic groups, there are some I much prefer to others. But my general rule is to tolerate not only other peoples’ skin, but more importantly, tolerate the other guy’s bigotries. You just don’t really know where he’s been, or what he’s experienced, or by whom he may have been betrayed.

    Returning for a moment to Bruce, I remember learning some while back, that once upon a time in a galaxy far away and some four decades ago, he was an 11B infantryman with the 101st Division in the Central Highlands. I don’t remember the exact place, I saw that, so I’ll invoke the Nicki dispensation and tell you to go find the link for my assertion. Or even a link disproving it.. If I’m anywhere near correct, I believe that Bruce had a far more stressful time than did I, or than anyone else participating in this dispute, II Corps trumps KFOR. And I think that would influence his colorful writing style with a hefty dose of PTS. And contrary to mythologies, racial animosities in Viet Nam sometimes carried over out into the bush. Who knows, he might turn out to be another “White-Hispanic”.

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    George,

    he is a Vietnam Vet….I remember him talking about his service and knowing my history he saw some nasty action. I don’t denigrate that service nor do I make light of any lingering problems that he may have as a result of his service. I hope he gets the medical attention that he so deserves and needs. He’s earned that at least.

    Doesn’t excuse the racism though, there’s no need or justification for spouting that stuff in a public forum. Like I said in a previous post, measure your words before hitting that Speak button

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    Honestly, I don’t give a flat flying rat’s fuck if he’s a Medal of Honor recipient from the days of Korea. Nothing excuses that shit. Nothing. Not in my eyes. And Herp over here twisting himself into a pretzel would make Goebbels proud with his efforts to spin Brucie boy into something tolerable.

    Neither one is tolerable to me, Rurik. Not the one spewing racist epithets and not the one sneakily playing martyr, while posturing himself to be the next coming of Patrick Henry, while channeling the Third Reich’s entire Ministry of Propaganda.

    I know plenty of wounded combat vets who don’t spew the bigoted crap. There’s no fucking excuse for this shit, nor the voluminous, tedious, unreadable vomit defending it.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Well Ma’am, I suppose you’ll just have to acclimate. I am afraid I am going to have to disagree with your latest fabrications and distortions. That said, you do have quite the splendid imagination – and a vibrant command of colorful metaphor – there’s talent there.

    Did you ever consider a career in creative writing?

    Ma’am, have a great night!

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    And I’m afraid I wasn’t talking to you, Goebbels’ wet dream, so fuck off.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    “This thread looked pretty unpromising on my last visit, and I wasn’t going to comment, but it seems all hell has broken loose in the last few days, and I am to be dragged in. It looks like the show tonight is To Kill a MockingBruce, with HempRopeAndStreetlight as the defense attorney. How bizarre!”

    But fun. Don’t forget fun.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    And I’m afraid I wasn’t talking to you, Goebbels’ wet dream, so fuck off.

    See – that’s what I’m talking about Ma’am – takes a good wit and crafty command of Hyperbole to fire off a salvo like that. Well done.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Hemp,

    Congratulations on your highly successful dismemberment of Nicki and her (ahem) arguments. Not only was your commanding logic and rapier wit disarming of her rants, but you WON when she sank into personal attacks and vile profanities ( as is her style…count the profanities and attacks in her posts). You sir at all times conducted yourself as a proper gentleman, while she degenerated into behavior not fit for a lady.

    BRAVO.

    Awaiting incoming fire to my character in 3….2…..1…..

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    LC Gladiator @ #:
    Oh how cute! You came out of your cut and paste stupor to salivate over someone who promotes violence and defends racism.

    Precious.
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    Oh how cute! You came out of your cut and paste stupor to salivate over someone who promotes violence and defends racism.

    Precious.

    Nicki – you might want to consider copywriting your avatar before the picture shows up on a bag of Purina Dog Chow

    BTW- Misanthropy is the general hatred, distrust or disdain of the human species or human nature. A misanthrope, or misanthropist is someone who holds such views or feelings. How appropriate.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Awaiting incoming fire to my character in 3….2…..1…..

    Exactly 40 minutes!

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    LC Gladiator says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:
    Oh how cute! You came out of your cut and paste stupor to salivate over someone who promotes violence and defends racism.
    Precious.
    Nicki – you might want to consider copywriting your avatar before the picture shows up on a bag of Purina Dog Chow

    Oh look! Sticks and stones! How cute. Did you have to look that one up too so you could copy and paste? LMAO!! Dude, you’re not even worth insulting. You’re a sad little man.

    LC Gladiator says:

    BTW- Misanthropy is the general hatred, distrust or disdain of the human species or human nature. A misanthrope, or misanthropist is someone who holds such views or feelings. How appropriate.

    Wow, did you cut and paste that all by yourself? How awesome! Yes that’s EXACTLY why I chose the nickname, silly! DUH!

    LC Gladiator says:

    Exactly 40 minutes!

    Well, you know… I had to get up, feed the Saint Bernard, brush my teeth and have my coffee. It takes a while.
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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Saint Bernard?

    Wasn’t he the Saint of Cut and Paste? Or was that Childrens scissors and eating Library paste? I get so confused in these things.

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    Wow, the fun is not ending, here, and n00bs just n00b on… It kills me when some random unknown wanker comes in all high and mighty trying to say what’s “ladylike” and what isn’t. LOL.

    No shortage of presumptuous douchery with those paragons of Internet virtue as they, themselves, act like assclowns, get called out on it, then start twisting like eels on a skillet making excuses for themselves and their fellow ignorami.

    Some of them, I suspect, have serious Mommy issues and are quite likely the kind of overbearing assholes who think women, like other “inferior minorities”, should “know their place”. That female commenters here (some of whom belong to ethnic and religious “minorities”, OMFG) post strong opinions as well as curse like sailors, chaps these little authoritarian droolers’ asses. Add to that that some of us “wimmenfolk” are warriors, engineers, writers, scientists or doctors, among other things, and the droolers’ whole world is turned upside down. They resent it. They get condescending, they get defensive and ultimately make themselves look like even bigger assholes. So, I am making another egg nog latte, and watching the n00bs keep on pissing on the electric fence.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Hardly a n00b. Been here since 2005

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Glad,

    Ya, you’ve been here a long time. I usually read your cut and paste articles but I would appreciate it if you would just post a link to the source instead of the whole article.

    Merry Christmas

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    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    Speaking as someone who doesn’t have a dog in this fight…

    Ladies? Regardless of ‘right’ or ‘wrong’, you’re not exactly covering yourselves in glory here. You’ve managed to make Hemp and Company look polite, reasoned, and tolerant.

    The more you howl, scream, and swear, the more reasonable and dignified Hemp & Co. look, until people have forgotten what the arguement was actually about, and only remember ‘those polite gentlemen’ and ‘those screaming harpies’.

    And given that one of your primary arguments against Hemp & Co. is that he’s ‘making the site look bad’… You’re doing a hell of a lot more damage than he is. Something to think about , yes?

    Even worse, they’ve got you arguing like a bunch of leftists, all emotion and ‘feelings’ and not a pinch of logic or reason to be found.

    It’s all ‘fuck you’ and ‘you have mommy issues’… seriously, what’s next, saying he’s got a tiny penis and lives in his mom’s basement? None of this goes to proving that he’s wrong.

    Dude is a -lawyer- . He made a living reading people, tricking people, and pushing buttons. He’s doing it now, and you’re falling for it, hook, line, and sinker.

    Might want to reflect on that for a bit.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Roguetek says:

    Ladies? Regardless of ‘right’ or ‘wrong’, you’re not exactly covering yourselves in glory here. You’ve managed to make Hemp and Company look polite, reasoned, and tolerant.

    The more you howl, scream, and swear, the more reasonable and dignified Hemp & Co. look, until people have forgotten what the arguement was actually about, and only remember ‘those polite gentlemen’ and ‘those screaming harpies’.

    And given that one of your primary arguments against Hemp & Co. is that he’s ‘making the site look bad’… You’re doing a hell of a lot more damage than he is. Something to think about , yes?

    Even worse, they’ve got you arguing like a bunch of leftists, all emotion and ‘feelings’ and not a pinch of logic or reason to be found.

    It’s all ‘fuck you’ and ‘you have mommy issues’… seriously, what’s next, saying he’s got a tiny penis and lives in his mom’s basement? None of this goes to proving that he’s wrong.

    Dude is a -lawyer- . He made a living reading people, tricking people, and pushing buttons. He’s doing it now, and you’re falling for it, hook, line, and sinker.

    Might want to reflect on that for a bit.

    Leave a Reply

    ABSOLUTELY

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Hardly a n00b. Been here since 2005

    You went by the handle “um yeah” then, didn’tcha?

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    LC Gladiator says:

    Hemp,

    Congratulations on your highly successful dismemberment of Nicki and her (ahem) arguments. Not only was your commanding logic and rapier wit disarming of her rants, but you WON when she sank into personal attacks and vile profanities ( as is her style…count the profanities and attacks in her posts). You sir at all times conducted yourself as a proper gentleman, while she degenerated into behavior not fit for a lady.

    BRAVO.

    Awaiting incoming fire to my character in 3….2…..1…..

    how do you feel about his lengthy defense of the racist comments made by bruce? Read back through the comments, hell, even the Boss acknowledged that they were racist and unworthy of this site.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Library Czar says:

    Ya, you’ve been here a long time. I usually read your cut and paste articles but I would appreciate it if you would just post a link to the source instead of the whole article.

    Merry Christmas

    I try to post the first two or three paragraphs to get the interest up and then try to post a link. However, sometimes I find bad or broken links , or a post from a non-website, and i end up posting the whole thing. I hear you though, I will try to cut the lengths of a post Im citing.

    Merry Christmas Rogue, and Happy New Year !

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:how do you feel about his lengthy defense of the racist comments made by bruce? Read back through the comments, hell, even the Boss acknowledged that they were racist and unworthy of this site.

    I’d imagine he’d be rather shocked someone was willing to stand up to a riled lynch mob. Most folks follow the crowd these days. (Less likely they will get targeted themselves that way).

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #98:
    What?! Bruce committed RACISM? Doesn’t he realize that committing racism is worse than home invasion and armed robbery? It is worse than murder. It is worse than genocide! It is worse than forcible rape. Racism is worse than the Newsome-Channon Christian murders in Kansas. Racism is the worstest thing that ever happened. What did he do? Did he deny someone a job because of her dredlocks? Did he play the Knockout Game? Or shoot someone? Maybe he raped a Black Stripper, like Gayle Mangum? Or did he directly address someone with some unfashionable Letter Word? Or just use some arcane reference to such a word? Even that is still worse than a triple machete slaying. Let’s Nifong the guy.
    So it seems Bruce is guilty of THOUGHT CRIME. We’ve got us a witch! BURN HIM! (Cue up the Monty Python witch trial clip). If he weighs no more than a duck call he’s a witch and we can burn him. But wait? If all Burce did was commit racist thoughts or attitudes, how is that racism. Do you not remember The Doctrine? Racism can only be committed by a White Man with power, a powerless Black person is incapable of racism. So if Bruce is powerless, he cannot be racist. If no act beyond thought was committed, he either lacked the desire or the power, and therefore is no racist.
    What I think I her in Bruce’s angry words is pushback and resentment expressed in mockery against the PC obsession with linguistic respectability. From the late 1940s, the officially designated term as be colored person, then person of color, Negro, then Black, and back again, with variations on curious spellings of the Unpronounceable Word, when used by rappers, before arriving at the wooden African-American, a term which runs into problems with Caucasoid people from South Africa or Zimbabwe. And which also can cause confusion with the case of new Black arrivals from places such as Nigeria, Gabon, or even (can I mention it in this context?) Kenya. Are they African-Africans? Or African-African-Americans? Does this not merit a touch of knee grow mockery? Moral bullying seems to provoke passive aggression as the only defense.
    Frankly I am very disappointed to see the depths to which supposed Libertarians and champions of free speech have sunk. One more ideal bites the dust. :(

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:how do you feel about his lengthy defense of the racist comments made by bruce? Read back through the comments, hell, even the Boss acknowledged that they were racist and unworthy of this site.

    I’d imagine he’d be rather shocked someone was willing to stand up to a riled lynch mob. Most folks follow the crowd these days. (Less likely they will get targeted themselves that way).

    lynch mob? you’re turning the racism back on us? you give yourself too much credit sir….like I said more than once here, you defended blatantly and crystal clear racist comments. Parse them and throw dictionary definitions around all you want but to deny the racism in those comments is to just defend the indefensible.

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    LC Roguetek @ #:
    Hi, Rogue –

    Let me start by addressing the following:
    LC Roguetek says:

    And given that one of your primary arguments against Hemp & Co. is that he’s ‘making the site look bad’… You’re doing a hell of a lot more damage than he is. Something to think about , yes?

    I would submit to you that advocating violence, lamenting the fact that we didn’t get into a shooting war in this country earlier, and statements that are repugnantly racist make this site seem a lot worse than a bunch of women using salty language – something that has been a staple of this site for a long time for both males and females. YMMV on this, but that said…

    Knowing how many people have quit commenting and simply left the site because of posters such as Hemp, bruce and others, I’d say I am right about that.

    Nonetheless, regarding the POS you reference.

    Having read his comments over the past several years (I think that’s how long he’s been around, but I can’t remember offhand), I have become convinced that he thirsts for war. He laments that we haven’t started shooting much sooner than this. And he posits himself as some kind of patriotic town crier who is calling for bloodshed to refresh that tree of liberty. He doesn’t comprehend that mass deaths are not a good or romantic thing, as he tries to make them sound. And he doesn’t seem to get that he’s not one of the Founders, that his calls for violence are not a military tactic or a smart strategy. And speaking from a professional point of view, he’s also going to put a negative attention spotlight on many who post here.

    Now, maybe he is retired and doesn’t give a shit. If he is or was a lawyer, as he claims (I have my doubts, but whatever), he would be a bit more subtle at the very least. But he lacks subtlety and nuance. His “shucks, ma’am routine” is transparent and reeks of a hamhanded attempt to paint those who ardently oppose him as horrible harpies, while he plays the martyr, willingly taking the brunt of our insults for the cause of liberty. I mean, REALLY??? Does he not think anyone can see through that? He calls Staci – STACI – a “retard,” while hiding behind an alleged “conversation” with another, and gallantly says he might delete that part of his supposed correspondent’s reply, while, of course, posting the entire thing. REALLY? Staci, who was actually WAY nicer than I was! A retard.

    And then there’s the writhing, twisting spin put on bruce’s disgusting, continued assault on decency with his racial invective, which I find more repulsive than anything I can possibly come up with. You know me, Rogue – the one thing I despise more than anything is racism and bigotry. And this… supposed lawyer, has spent pages defending it? Really? There’s no reasoning with that kind of slime, and I refuse to do so. Absolutely refuse.

    Gladiator? I don’t find him offensive. Just tedious, and at times, his incessant cut and pastes that absolutely dominate every discussion, are irritating beyond belief. I have no real issue with him. Mostly I find him sad, but the fact that he actually defends the Racist Spin Machine, while bashing my looks with insults we used in 4th grade, says more about him than it does about me.

    Rogue, I am what I am. I have never misrepresented myself, nor have I ever censored myself. Yes, we all slide off the rails sometimes, even Misha has admitted to have done so. Hell, there are times I want to string McShitstain from a tall tree myself! But you know what? There’s a difference between angry hyperbole and the actual twisted, drooling, elated erection HerpTheGiftThatKeepsOnGiving has for the idea of civil war.

    If you believe that my language reflects badly on this site, that’s your right. I’m certainly not going to debate you on that point, because opinions are a subjective thing. Ultimately, the only judge is Misha, and if he feels I or Nat or any one of the women who have been around here for a decade or more, are making this site look bad, he will definitely let us know. Otherwise, have a nice rest of your weekend (and I mean that sincerely).
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Addendum:

    As is being amply demonstrated, anyone daring to speak out against the bullying and character assassination quickly finds themselves added to the list of acceptable targets.

    Already I see people now starting to nip at Gladiator. It’s a bit fascinating watching the roster of “tainted ones” grow here…

    …but not in a good way – not anymore.

    Around 90 or so posts, this was all amusing. I’d figured it was just three or four folks with a chip going after some fellers who’d been pissing ‘em off for some time. The “righteous indignation” and sudden love for Race Baiting was nothing more than grasping any available excuse to brand them as “tainted.” Naturally, most folks not personally wrapped up in the back-and forth see through the entire affair.

    The amusement factor starts to dwindle however as the “acceptable losses” continue to pile up. What’s being communicated – the subtext as it were – is “Tow the line, don’t hinder the inquisition, and examples will be made of anyone pushing against the grain of the mob’s pronouncements.”

    If the aggrieved parties want to continue trying to lob mortars in my foxhole, by all means, I’m putting myself out there, fire away. I need to be able to defend my positions in the face of anything anyone can toss – in many ways, I appreciate the help in refining and galvanizing my arguments. That said, you might want to narrow down that rapidly expanding list of range targets some.

    Who’s the next “impure” one to be made into a cautionary tale for others?”

    Just some thoughts to ruminate over.

    Now then… ahem… “serious hat off”

    I believe… we were discussing my lack of Manhood, delusions of grandeur and ridiculous Nietzschean outlook on the universe – Yes?

    Oh – and crafting me some nicknames. I love that game. So I am going to play too.

    “ChumpDopeAndDumplight”

    Probably needs some work, but I am confident, that I’ll get plenty of help refining it as the afternoon progresses.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    As is being amply demonstrated, anyone daring to speak out against the bullying and character assassination quickly finds themselves added to the list of acceptable targets.

    Already I see people now starting to nip at Gladiator. It’s a bit fascinating watching the roster of “tainted ones” grow here…

    …but not in a good way – not anymore.

    oh stop it, no one is being victimized here….no one is being bullied, we’re debating. What a last gasp tactic

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Around 90 or so posts, this was all amusing. I’d figured it was just three or four folks with a chip going after some fellers who’d been pissing ‘em off for some time. The “righteous indignation” and sudden love for Race baiting was nothing more than grasping on any available excuse to brand them as “tainted.” Naturally, most folks not personally wrapped up in the back-and forth see through the entire affair.

    There are a number of us, some of the admins included that have some concerns about the nature of the comments here. Things like “targeting cops” “killing the all and letting God sort them out” “TNB” and “knee grow” add nothing to the solutions that we all seek regarding the state of our nation. I get the feeling that you liken yourself to Thomas Paine in that you choose to be the wordsmith that inspires the rest to go and fight for the liberty of this country……well, to quasi- quote Mr. Reagan, “You sir are no Thomas Paine”. Advocating hunting down the bastards and goons like dogs is not Painelike rhetoric in any way. I ask….no I demand solutions from the members here, empty repetitive and sometimes racist rhetoric only cheapens the message here and that is the “chip” that you claim we carry.

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    If the aggrieved parties want to continue trying to lob mortars in my foxhole, by all means, I’m putting myself out there, fire away. That said, you might want to narrow down that rapidly expanding list of range targets some.

    Who’s the next “impure” one to be made into a cautionary tale for others?”

    Just some thoughts to ruminate over.

    again, stop with the victimizing of yourself and the others. It’s below you to do that

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    LC Roguetek says:

    Dude is a -lawyer- . He made a living reading people, tricking people, and pushing buttons. He’s doing it now, and you’re falling for it, hook, line, and sinker.

    Then he should stick to being a lawyer, not an armchair general. Dude sees himself as some sort of visionary military leader who will lead the Great White Revolution or whatever. And that smarmy “I know more than you, I am the only one with the vision” tone is quite annoying. But, to each his own, I guess. :em02:

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    Knowing how many people have quit commenting and simply left the site because of posters such as Hemp, bruce and others, I’d say I am right about that.

    Au contraire Nick. Id say the Rott USED to be a place where you could post almost anything, and if others disagreed , you could joust with the FACTS. Unfortunately the recent past has lead “old timers” like yourself to gang up on any opinion you dont agree with, and attack the writer PERSONALLY, instead of debating the idea. THIS is what has caused many to leave the Rott. Dont believe me, ask DJ, he and I have talked about this and he agrees. And YOU are one of the worst offenders. Just examine your posts in this thread, you go to personal attacks and profanity far, far more than you present logic and facts. I would contend that is the likes of YOU, not Hemp, who are hurting AIR.
    IMHO

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #99:
    No, I wouldn’t expect it to matter to you. Over the years and posts you have already well established yourself as a perpetually enraged case of PMS, with tolerance only for your own obsessions. So frankly, m’dear, I don’t give a damn.

    Though I do not claim any ability to see inside another’s soul any better than you, I cannot help but wonder if there is some other fear motivating your sanctimonious explosion. Back off, tranq out for a bit and review your words. You do sound more unbalanced than any racist, overt or covert, or even Black or White, which I have previously encountered. You have started to sound like a bit actor from 1984′s Two Minutes hate. Or like an audience member at the Zinoviev Trial.
    Have you been appointed the Race Zampolit? Or is it that someone else has, and you are protesting so loudly to conceal your own inner doubts. ” NO! I’m not the Trotskyist, its him!” I know, I’ve been in such situations several times. But when I’ve feared to speak openly, I just kept silent, I did not lead the cheering squad.

    And by the way, when I was in the army I lived on racial abuse and threat. When I was in RVN the common term for us pale skins was Rabbit, as in White Rabbit from the Jefferson Airplane Song. Cute. Until you heard the Bro’s talking about how they looked forward to hunting rabbits. There was one night when I was certain I would not see the dawn, and made it only because friends promised retaliation if anything happened to me, and another spent the night physically watching my back.

    Supposedly Black bad behavior and language is the result of indignities visited on ancestors they never men, generations ago, and whom they probably could not even name. But insults, threats and injuries happening directly to us as recently as months or days ago, we are told to forget as “old news”.
    If we are going to play the game of “counting nits”, I’ve got a few, too. And so does Bruce. And HempRope.
    You say we should show tolerance, how about setting the example? I guess I will give you credit for taking the ead with your feelings. While we are still left to conjecture about Bruce’s “tnb”, there is not the slightest equivocation with your abuse.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #99:
    No, I wouldn’t expect it to matter to you. Over the years and posts you have already well established yourself as a perpetually enraged case of PMS, with tolerance only for your own obsessions. So frankly, m’dear, I don’t give a damn.
    Though I do not claim any ability to see inside another’s soul any better than you, I cannot help but wonder if there is some other fear motivating your sanctimonious explosion. Back off, tranq out for a bit and review your words. You do sound more unbalanced than any racist, overt or covert, or even Black or White, which I have previously encountered. You have started to sound like a bit actor from 1984?s Two Minutes hate. Or like an audience member at the Zinoviev Trial.
    Have you been appointed the Race Zampolit? Or is it that someone else has, and you are protesting so loudly to conceal your own inner doubts. ” NO! I’m not the Trotskyist, its him!” I know, I’ve been in such situations several times. But when I’ve feared to speak openly, I just kept silent, I did not lead the cheering squad.
    And by the way, when I was in the army I lived on racial abuse and threat. When I was in RVN the common term for us pale skins was Rabbit, as in White Rabbit from the Jefferson Airplane Song. Cute. Until you heard the Bro’s talking about how they looked forward to hunting rabbits. There was one night when I was certain I would not see the dawn, and made it only because friends promised retaliation if anything happened to me, and another spent the night physically watching my back.
    Supposedly Black bad behavior and language is the result of indignities visited on ancestors they never men, generations ago, and whom they probably could not even name. But insults, threats and injuries happening directly to us as recently as months or days ago, we are told to forget as “old news”.
    If we are going to play the game of “counting nits”, I’ve got a few, too. And so does Bruce. And HempRope.
    You say we should show tolerance, how about setting the example? I guess I will give you credit for taking the ead with your feelings. While we are still left to conjecture about Bruce’s “tnb”, there is not the slightest equivocation with your abuse.

    Glad we got that out of the way. Good having known you, Rurik.
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    LC Gladiator says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:
    Knowing how many people have quit commenting and simply left the site because of posters such as Hemp, bruce and others, I’d say I am right about that.
    Au contraire Nick. Id say the Rott USED to be a place where you could post almost anything, and if others disagreed , you could joust with the FACTS. Unfortunately the recent past has lead “old timers” like yourself to gang up on any opinion you dont agree with, and attack the writer PERSONALLY, instead of debating the idea. THIS is what has caused many to leave the Rott. Dont believe me, ask DJ, he and I have talked about this and he agrees. And YOU are one of the worst offenders. Just examine your posts in this thread, you go to personal attacks and profanity far, far more than you present logic and facts. I would contend that is the likes of YOU, not Hemp, who are hurting AIR.
    IMHO

    Considering my posting during the past couple of years has been sporadic, if that, that’s a pretty hefty charge.

    I don’t debate the irrational and the indefensible.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    “I ask….no I demand solutions from the members here”

    Ahh but you know full well that I’ve done exactly that. It is a delightful afternoon for some cherry picking, so, I’ll help jog your memory some…

    Now, obviously, some people round these parts have been grinding your gears for a while. Back in November, you said:

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9428#comment-43189
    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery growls and barks:
    November 6, 2013 at 13:34
    elaborate please, if we don’t change it by getting inside the system and cleaning it up then how do we fix it?

    Ingenious soul that I am, I was more than happy to provide an overview:

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9428#comment-43193

    Now, you offered no response, but I was more than happy to oblige your request in a reasonable and respectful manner. However, despite this, about 20 days later, you again found your tail-feathers ruffled, and typed the following:

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9544#comment-43668
    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery growls and barks:
    November 30, 2013 at 13:02
    What in the hell is stopping you? light it up and see how far you get and how much propagandist and actual damage you do to the rest of us by your fool actions…I’ve said it before here, and have debated some of the more vocal hotheads here about it, but this war needs to be fought from the inside. We need to infiltrate the political parties (both of them), we need to retake the media outlets, and we need to get inside the education system to eliminate the indoctrination that goes on there.

    In response to this, I again posted an outline of action:

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9544#comment-43670

    You ask again and again for solutions… and act as though you’ve been provided none… as though the people upsetting you never do anything but rail and rant pointlessly…

    http://nicedoggie.net/?p=9544#comment-43671
    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery growls and barks:
    November 30, 2013 at 15:39
    “…As for your points, they are good and I’ve been waiting a long to time to hear solutions rather than the usual tired rhetoric about “killing them all”. Good, excellent points all.”

    I know it’s hard to keep track of the finer points of every single discussion. Hell, I miss the details of life constantly. But losing track of not one, but two thousand word plus missives penned exclusively for your benefit? Why sir, some folks – not me mind you – might start to wonder if you’re not being just a tad disingenuous.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC RURIK says:

    No, I wouldn’t expect it to matter to you. Over the years and posts you have already well established yourself as a perpetually enraged case of PMS, with tolerance only for your own obsessions. So frankly, m’dear, I don’t give a damn.
    Though I do not claim any ability to see inside another’s soul any better than you, I cannot help but wonder if there is some other fear motivating your sanctimonious explosion. Back off, tranq out for a bit and review your words. You do sound more unbalanced than any racist, overt or covert, or even Black or White, which I have previously encountered. You have started to sound like a bit actor from 1984?s Two Minutes hate. Or like an audience member at the Zinoviev Trial
    .

    POST OF THE YEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #129:
    Hemp, I admire our tenacity and your skill. But it just occurred to me that all of our main opponents share something in common, they are all. within the context of the time, compromised and vulnerable individuals. Our two Amazons are vulnerable trying to survive in the Imposter’s Defense Department, which is now in the midst of an ongoing purge, at both officer and NCO levels. Purported reasons for removal are not always clear, or totally credible, and the supposition is that all are being removed who are not strictly compliant with every detail of Barack-thought. And that would particularly include Race and Gender Roles. Being suspected of being the least bit out of conformity could hazard future promotion or pension. The other one who air-assaulted in for a brief attempt claimed to be a General’s Wife, taking her at her word would mean that she, too would have pressure for strictest conformity to the ideology de jour. Jaybear, while not military, suffers from Left Coast Syndrome, in this case, being ensconced in a teaching position in, I believe, the greater Seattle school system. As such he may be under influence of his organization. These are not the people I used to know.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #130:
    And I return your salute, Sir.

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    LC Gladiator @ #:

    I’m currently imagining you in a cheerleading outfit with glittery spanky pants. And it’s making my lunch not sit well. Pom poms?
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Whoa… Where did we go from “TNB” is racist to “Bruce is a KKK Nazi Stormtrooper?”

    Listen, I have a bit of experience with the real McCoy there too, and they’re not pleasant people. Let’s just say that their behavior goes way past using racial slurs. Way past.

    To reiterate my own stand on this whole kerfuffle, there are two points here:

    1) Are “TNB” and “knee grow” racist, racialist, obviously loaded with racial overtones? My position is yes, they are. It doesn’t really matter if they always were, but they are now, and stating so is just pointing out the obvious. Is this right and proper? I don’t think so. I’ve devoted a lot of time to protesting the bastardization of our language by changing the meaning of words and refusing to play the left’s game by letting them define the battle space. But it doesn’t change the fact that it is what it is, and if you shout “nigger” all over the place then, regardless of your intentions, you’re bound to hurt people you don’t want to hurt (as well as those you do, but who cares about them? I don’t) and to come off sounding a bit like a nutter. Not to mention being suspected, suspected mind you, of being an actual, card-carrying racist.

    Which leads into:

    2) IS Bruce a racist? I’m not in possession of a crystal ball, so I’ll have to admit that I honestly don’t know. I have known people, family even, who would use words like “nigger” in conversation (not often, mind you, but it did happen), yet I dare anybody to find anybody less racist than they. Some of you here may have had similar experiences, I don’t know, but I do know that using a word isn’t proof positive that you belong lock stock and barrel to the ideology or mental disease with which the word has become associated.

    Could be you were just pissed off. Or deliberately trying to be insulting It’s a liberating feeling, you know. Like calling PajamaBoy a flamboyant poof. Unfair to self-respecting poofs everywhere, but wonderfully insulting. Provided that PajamaBoy isn’t an actual poof, in which case it’s not much of an insult at all. See? It works only because you assume that he isn’t. But I digress. No gay person I’ve ever known would ever want to look like that. Thing is, hurling that insult doesn’t make you a raging, drop walls on ‘em homophobe.

    Remember the Paula Deen kerfuffle? Where she got shit-canned, her publisher dropped her best selling book and she was hung out as the most horrible racist in the history of racism because she admitted to saying “nigger” three or four decades ago. After having been held up at work by a black person. Yeah. Minor detail, I know. Who cares? She should have just sucked it up. How dare she be angry and upset?

    Is “nigger” racist? Yep. Does that make Paula Deen a confirmed racist for having used the word? Nope. She may be a racist, I don’t know, but using the word… It’s a word. An offensive one, and that’s why I don’t like to see it thrown around like confetti, that’s why it rankles me when it does get thrown around, some times more than others (particularly when another one would have sufficed or been even better, but everybody’s a critic), but it’s not proof of anything other than the fact that you know the word and that you used it.

    Anyway, that’s how I see it.
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Sir
    Rurik, K.o.E.
    @ #: But it just occurred to me that all of our main opponents share something in common, they are all. within the context of the time, compromised and vulnerable individuals. Our two Amazons are vulnerable trying to survive in the Imposter’s Defense Department, which is now in the midst of an ongoing purge, at both officer and NCO levels. Purported reasons for removal are not always clear, or totally credible, and the supposition is that all are being removed who are not strictly compliant with every detail of Barack-thought.

    I understand the thought Rurik, and while it would certainly explain a good many things, I am fairly certain that if their “careers” were being tied directly to their “online names” they’d have already been purged.

    This is a small site, and is largely under the radar of the political world – which from my way of seeing things – the arena officers in the armed forces and DD staff operate. (NSA, FBI, and other agencies excluded of course – they see all, but that does not mean it’s being passed up the chain). While a few folks might be terrified of getting axed on some level, I’m not certain this fear is the core of the issue here.

    If they were scared, I suspect they’d be keeping quiet rather than drawing more attention to their presence. When it comes to thought-crime, just posting here, and being on friendly terms with the site’s owner would be enough to be considered “persona non grata” to the Libtard political machine.

    That said, you’re not entirely off your mark. Early on, I too noticed the background of those involved. I think this disagreement is more ideological in nature – but it is certainly tied TO their “public lives.”

    As members of the military complex, the government, and education, these folks exist in a world of systems. Everything needs to be framed within the context of the regulations, and changes – from their perspective – can only happen within the confines of those rules. Any alternate solutions demean, and force uncomfortable self-examination on their part – it also grinds against their view of how the universe should work.

    The rage you’re seeing is a reflexive lash-out against people challenging their core belief system – and the processes to which they’ve dedicated a good portion of their lives. The “You’re a no-good racist Bruce” thing is just a pretext – remember – these are folks who eat, breath and sleep protocol – when threatened, they will use the instrumentality of the institution to defend their ideals.

    Bruce’s real crime, was his various revolutionary comments, poor use of grammar/punctuation, and terrible explanation of his thought process. This sudden “heartfelt concern” over the content of his barely lucid rants is how folks deeply entwined in rules, use them and morays of our structured society to destroy a target they were already predisposed to hate.

    A good example of this behavior is the prosecution of Conrad Black. He made a great many political enemies over time due to his outspoken nature and political beliefs. When he eventually ran afoul the labyrinthine maze of financial regulations, he was socially and criminally hammered into oblivion – the witch-hunt lead by folks who were eagerly waiting for that one slip up. His real crime was being outspoken, and that was why he was truly punished. Had Black not “tilted the pinball cabinet” he’d have been given a small fine and shuffled out the door.

    Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, of Benghazi fame, is another example. His TRUE assault was embarrassing the Obama administration. He made them look ridiculous, (made themselves make themselves technically), so they seized the first opportunity to use them system to punish him. Had his video been lost in the festering bile that is Youtube, he’d never have been hauled off to a cell.

    So no, I’m not so sure they are trying to earn bonus points for King Barry. I could be wrong, but, seldom is the angry stirring of hornets so fierce when they’ve a gun to their back. Again, if they were really cowering in fear, I think they’d be vanishing right now – not drawing the NSA goons to this post like a signal flare.

    You are on the correct path when you notice the backgrounds of those involved however. Their ideology is being directly threatened and challenged, which explains the unbridled and untargeted rage directed at any and everyone commenting on the validity of the process itself. To even acknowledge an option that deviates from the entrenched social order is a refutation of the foundation for their entire lives, and every board they’ve ever set upon it.

    Which is why I don’t take it personally when they explode.

    I think we all hold many similar ideals, since we stuck around after all – the current argument is one of process. One faction eats and breathes it, and has committed to the ideology that change can only be issued from within. Another feels that said order has become an anathema to personal liberty, and needs to be replaced.

    Heads will butt. Know where they are coming from, and you can understand their angst.

    A good very observation at it’s core Rurik.

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    Emperor Misha I says:

    Where did we go from “TNB” is racist to “Bruce is a KKK Nazi Stormtrooper?”

    Did I miss something, bro? Who called him a Nazi Stormtrooper???

    I would disagree with that assessment as well. He uses revolting bigoted and racist rhetoric that makes him a racist, but I haven’t seen any evidence of him having a gas chamber in his house.

    The World English Dictionary defines “racism” as:

    — n
    1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
    2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

    I’d submit that talking about “typical n***er behavior” and affirmative action “knee-grow” fits the definition pretty well. A lot of the shit we see is cultural and it can be fixed, but to attribute it to race is repugnant and insulting to black people who have actually worked their asses off and made something of themselves.

    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. @ #:
    Speaking of “not the people I used to know…”

    You have known me long enough – probably a decade or so – to know that I abhor any kind of racist rhetoric or bigotry. I’ve never made it a secret. You also know why. You have known how I speak for years, but it never seemed to be an issue.

    But all of a sudden, I call out someone for blatantly obvious racist rhetoric and blatantly obvious attempts to defend it, and I’m just being PC, sucking the dick of the SECDEF in attempts to gain a promotion???

    How fucking dare you! How dare you impugn my military service or that of Nat? Because you used to toss the N-bomb around in the Army like it was cool? Because “they do it too?” And because I find that to be repugnant, I must be angling for a promotion???

    No, it’s not acceptable. It’s not acceptable when black people attack white people, merely because they’re white. No, it’s not acceptable for them to use slurs like “cracka,” and other choice monikers. It’s revolting to see them crow how they have one of “theirs” in the White House. But if you think that excuses shitty behavior from our side, you’re sadly mistaken.

    I don’t allow that kind of shit in my life. Or in my house. Or anywhere near me. After years of being called a dirty Jew, getting beaten up by Soviet teachers and students, not being allowed to use a restroom until I soiled myself as a kid, because the teacher just wanted to see the Jew be embarrassed, etc., I will not allow that kind of abhorrent behavior anywhere near me. And after years of what I had considered at the very least a respectful relationship, I find you to be a reprehensible shitbag for implying that I would turn PC just to save my career.

    So fuck you, very much. I was just going to say a civil goodbye and not address you any longer, but don’t you fucking DARE cast aspersions on my military service! Intolerance for bigotry and racial hatred does not imply leftist leanings. But impugning someone’s service for their intolerance thereof speaks volumes for your fucking character.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    Did I miss something, bro? Who called him a Nazi Stormtrooper???

    Hyperbole, trademark of mine ;)

    It’s a matter of definition of “what makes a racist”, I suppose. Is it somebody who believes that certain races are beneath others genetically and can never rise above it or does it suffice to utter a racist expression?

    I don’t know the correct answer to that one. I know it’s the first, but I’d have to know somebody pretty well to know whether that fit or not, and I don’t know the exact point where somebody uses terms like that too many times for there to be any doubt left. Or what terms need to be used.

    All I DO know is that it’s offensive and, on top of that, endlessly tedious when terms like that get used again and again and again and again.

    I can’t, based on the usage of an offensive, racist term, say for sure that somebody is a racist, but that doesn’t mean that I can say for sure that he isn’t. Which is one of the reasons I avoid using them myself when I can. I don’t want the lines to get blurred and have everybody focus on the precise terms I used rather than what I was trying to say.
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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. says:

    Jaybear, while not military, suffers from Left Coast Syndrome, in this case, being ensconced in a teaching position in, I believe, the greater Seattle school system. As such he may be under influence of his organization. These are not the people I used to know.

    I’ve made my position as a teacher well known many many times here Rurik, if you had taken the time to read what I have posted you would understand that. What have I said that puts me under the “influence” of my organization? An organization BTW that I cut ties to 3 years ago, IF you ever read what I post here you’d know that too, I ran afoul of the union and district over some of my views and refusal to toe the union line….they started messing with my pay and I left….pay attention man…..

    Left Coast Syndrome :em05: ……

    there are many of us Rotties here on the “left coast” many that disagree with the ethnic cleansing rhetoric that has permeated the Rott in the last couple of years. If you choose to throw in with that, then by all means do so. I’ve said nothing here that I haven’t said before….in the many years that I have been a Rottie, maybe you don’t know yourself anymore.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    No, I wouldn’t expect it to matter to you. Over the years and posts you have already well established yourself as a perpetually enraged case of PMS, with tolerance only for your own obsessions. So frankly, m’dear, I don’t give a damn.

    You are sure wasting a lot of bandwidth proving how much you really don’t care. Why don’t you and herpes boy above go spend some time cleaning up the Jizz you two seem to have splashed all over yourselves congratulating each other over what fine upstanding citizens you are. Your comments paint you two as smug, smarmy pricks. Feel free to live up to that perception.

    Goes off to shower

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    Emperor Misha I @ #:
    Ah! Gotcha. I seriously thought I was losing my mind for a minute there!
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    That said, you’re not entirely off your mark. Early on, I too noticed the background of those involved. I think this disagreement is more ideological in nature – but it is certainly tied TO their “public lives.”

    what’s my background? do enlighten me as to what you know

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Oh for crying out loud! What in the flying fuck is going on here? It used to be that the Rott was a large family of FRIENDS, not a a group of cannibals eating each other.

    This is stupid.

    A lot of people have graced these pages over the past decade or so. Some of the originals are still here, some of the great ones have long gone.

    I, better than most here understand the feeling of being shouted at, demeaned, called names. But it NEVER stopped me from being a friend to most of the people here when needed — and I think that most of the people here got what it was I was doing.

    THIS isn’t good. This thing here that you are doing. It isn’t healthy for the community — and this is what this site is for most people — a COMMUNITY.

    Very little really shakes me here as most of you know. But THIS FUCKING BOTHERS ME.

    It used to be fun to participate here. But it has stopped being fun for a while now. People who started with this site have drifted off or just sit in the background and remain silent.

    You guys need to back up, regroup and try to re-kindle what we used to have here, before it is too late. Before you lose this thing.
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    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    Oh for crying out loud! What in the flying fuck is going on here? It used to be that the Rott was a large family of FRIENDS, not a a group of cannibals eating each other.

    This is stupid.

    A lot of people have graced these pages over the past decade or so. Some of the originals are still here, some of the great ones have long gone.

    I, better than most here understand the feeling of being shouted at, demeaned, called names. But it NEVER stopped me from being a friend to most of the people here when needed — and I think that most of the people here got what it was I was doing.

    THIS isn’t good. This thing here that you are doing. It isn’t healthy for the community — and this is what this site is for most people — a COMMUNITY.

    Very little really shakes me here as most of you know. But THIS FUCKING BOTHERS ME.

    It used to be fun to participate here. But it has stopped being fun for a while now. People who started with this site have drifted off or just sit in the background and remain silent.

    You guys need to back up, regroup and try to re-kindle what we used to have here, before it is too late. Before you lose this thing.
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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    We interrupt this conversation to report something very annoying.

    I went to the range today and my new Ruger SR9c broke.
    :em08:

    I can see what’s wrong with it, but if I try to fix it, I void the warranty
    :em06:

    It’s a very young gun. It’s only fired about 600 rounds, including the 200 I fired today. When I took it apart to clean it, I saw the spring that attaches to the slide release had come loose. I poked at at a bit, but tomorrow I’m going to the store I bought it and they will help me ship it back to Arizona.

    And this was going to be my new carry gun too.
    :em05:

    Well, I have my good, old fashioned, rock solid 1911 .45 as a backup.
    :em01:
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    Yeah, I was beginning to think the same thing. Regardless of the original topic of the discussion and who said what to whom and when, it’s veered completely off course to the point where people who’ve known each other for years are biting each others’ heads off and getting really ugly and personal.

    No, I don’t want to get into who did what first and who started it, it’s not relevant anymore, nor am I going to get into which side is blameless and which isn’t, because both sides have plenty of grievance to go around, I’m just noting that I think everybody needs a big glass of egg nog and a deep breath.

    I know I do. I’ll spike it heavily. With about a gallon of Tito’s Handmade.

    While I think up movie titles with one word replaced with “penis.”

    Like The Penis Games. Or Penis Dancing (OK, Dirty Penis might also work, but that’s just… eww…). Wait… How about Dances With Penises?

    I dunno. I got nuttin.
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    DJ its hard to have friendly discourse when greeted with a typical response like this one from Nicki to Bruce

    OK, motherfucker. Let’s get something straight. I didn’t say anything earlier about your post, because I thought you were just being your usual, drooling self, but now that I know what you fucking meant, let me explain something to your ass.

    You are nothing but a worthless, putrid sack of rancid effluvia – a racist bag of shit that gives this site and everyone on it a bad name. You’re not just an illiterate fuckwad, you’re also an ignorant, shitslurping dildo that doesn’t deserve to be in society – any kind of society – except maybe a room full of savages like yourself, who would tear you bit from noxious fucking bit.

    You’re a cunt wart, and I’m ashamed to be on this earth with you. Racist fucks like you need to be excised like the infected fucking hemorrhoids they are. You are part of the problem. You are just as much of a cocksucking degenerate as any black person who commits crimes based on their hatred of white people. There’s no difference between you and any other fucking assgoblin who uses race as an excuse for the pathetic, impotent hatred he feels on a daily basis.

    I would suggest you shut the fuck up, and shut the fuck up hard, dickplunger. You won’t find anyone here who agrees with the blatant and repulsive racism you exhibit, and most of us would tie your oozing labia into a knot with a machete before we put up with your shit.

    So shut your cumdumpster and shut it hard, cuntclown. I have no tolerance for that kind of shit. None.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #: And after years of what I had considered at the very least a respectful relationship, I find you to be a reprehensible shitbag for implying that I would turn PC just to save my career.

    Ma’am, with no slight intended, I’d like to point out that life is not monochrome. You don’t have to be lock-step in beliefs to co-exist. You’re going to sever a relationship of 10 years over 3 forum posts? Now, far be me to tell you how to run your life, but if I was in your place, I’d not be anxious to toss Rurik from “the old circle of trust” over a couple of internet missives.

    But that’s neither here nor there.

    I’ll admit, I’ve hurled some pretty strong invective in my time, and at often enough, I’ve gone far of the reservation when it comes to civil discourse. (As DJ above me can attest). Which is no small part of why I’m not getting antsy over some colorful descriptors and churlish nicknames. I’ve been there, seen it, and have the tee-shirt.

    I don’t think anyone here hasn’t. Cast the first stone ye with no guilt.

    I said it and I meant it – if you need to hate somebody, fire away, here I am. I find it amusing, it helps me refine arguments with those actually willing to debate (Jaybear), and it’s fun to nip and wrestle with those who just want to unload.

    But… were I in the position of rapid-firing anger-bullets off, I’d at least want to maintain enough distance that I wasn’t ending long-standing relationships over one disagreement. Just something to consider.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    In the spirit of the season Boss, how about ?

    “Its a wonderful Penis”

    “Rudolph with the Red topped Penis”

    ” Gosh bless ye merry Penis-Men”

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Penis on 34th Street?
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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #146:

    I think that Misha kinda made a large dripping hint at #145 — about the closest thing to a decree that he has ever made.

    Here, go yell at each other on my Instant Bark for a while. I will leave it up there for a day or two. But TRY to talk this stuff out, okay?
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Ma’am, with no slight intended, I’d like to point out that life is not monochrome. You don’t have to be lock-step in beliefs to co-exist. You’re going to sever a relationship of 10 years over 3 forum posts? Now, far be me to tell you how to run your life, but if the situation was reversed, I’d not be looking to “toss Rurik” from the old circle of trust over a couple of internet missives.

    I appreciate what you are saying. I really do.

    But I’m going to reply with something a lot of folks here already know about me.

    I joined the military after I graduated Johns Hopkins. I didn’t have to do that. I wanted to. It wasn’t for the benefits. It was because I came here from a rotten Soviet shithole, and I appreciate the fuck out of what this country is and the opportunities it has afforded me. I was proud each and every day I put on that uniform! I wasn’t an officer. I was enlisted. I teared up, and continue to tear up, every time I hear the National Anthem played or God Bless the USA by Lee Greenwood (yeah, I’m an atheist, and I LOVE that song!). I joined because I wanted to give something back to this nation that has given me so much! For someone like Rurik, who has known all this about me, to impugn my service to this country, because I happen to very strongly see racism in bruce’s posts, is repugnant. I don’t take that from friends. Ever. That makes him persona non grata in my book. You can insult me. You can hurl insults at me all you want. Fuck with my family or cast aspersions on my military service, and we’re through. This isn’t a matter of a couple of missives or an Internet argument. This was a low fucking blow – so low, in fact, that I want nothing to do with this shit any longer.
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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Fast and Furious Penis
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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    bruce is the equivalent of a crappy limerick scrawled on a truckstop bathroom stall. He won’t be missed or remembered.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    I might add, all of us are are putting Misha in a tight spot. Go read the last few posts he’s made. The guy is picking through and parsing his words with the care of a nitro squad working on the Northern-Pacific Railway. That’s a man getting grey hairs in real time. Can’t be fun watching folks, many of whom he likes and knows, battle it out.

    I’m not going to ask anyone to “keep things civil” because I am often times not a civil person. And because I have zilch when it comes to actual pull. I am simply going to suggest – not request, not order, not even beg – suggest – that folks who’ve known each other for more than a decade not start casting each other off into oblivion over a few paragraphs they happen to disagree with.

    Words can be spoken in the heat of the moment, with the adrenalin coursing, but not meant.

    For whatever that’s worth.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    How about:

    The Penis Express

    A Charlie Brown Penis

    OK, I’m going straight to Hell for that last one.
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    Compared to some, I am a relative newcomer to this place. I have been lucky to have met several of the Rotties in my life, and grieve that my brother-in-law and fellow Rottie LC Draco never had the opportunity to do so. But in my heart I am so glad he never saw this.

    Y’all taught me to be strong in my beliefs, no matter what they were, or are for that matter. To see y’all bicker over fine lines in shifting sands is not just sad, but heartbreaking as well. Y’all know each other better than I know y’all, and for far longer. We are a strong front not because we march lock in step but because we differ and STILL manage to put God and country above it. Well, country at the very least ;)

    I don’t always agree with everyone here. I have been attacked by Deej himself, and lived to tell the tale!! (It was epic). This has gotten way out of hand, and I pray y’all find a way to heal from it. We aren’t all nice, or diplomatic, or well-versed, or mannered. But we are ALL Rotties. Remember that.
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    Emperor Misha I says:

    A Charlie Brown Penis

    OK, I’m going straight to Hell for that last one.

    If’n you are, I might as well ride shotgun for laughing :D
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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    The Sound of Penis

    The Taking of Penis 123

    It’s A Mad Mad Mad Mad Penis

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R. says:

    I have been attacked by Deej himself, and lived to tell the tale!! (It was epic).

    I wish the Old SQL Incident of Aught Whatever hadn’t deleted the old flame wars between Deej and myself, not to mention every single other comment on the site. Talk about epic!!! Not a damn thing was held back and we went at it for months!

    And yes, that’s how he and I met. Funny how that works :)
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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    SIDEBAR

    Someone is going to have to upgrade WordPress here pretty darn fast, or soon people will not be able to log in at all.

    It only takes ten minutes.

    Why am I saying this?

    Because WordPress has this annoying “feature” that figures out whether you are running a current version or not. If you get more than two generations old, it will start locking out the log in for security reasons. This has already started, and it will eventually lock the site completely down, and the only way to unlock it is to go through the database and unlock it.

    Urgent? Yes. The clock runs for ten days and i don’t know how long it has been running.

    /SIDEBAR

    PENIS
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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    LOL

    Um Rurik…I never said I was a General’s wife. I almost was until hubby decided to retire…because of what is happening in the military and how they handle things. It is the only reason I am back to participating.

    I have no issue in calling out black on black crimes or how the overall culture has declined. A lot of black conservatives do it too and refuse to identify with that. A lot of conservative gay people would be caught dead in a gay parade. But…common sense dictates people are not fans of racial ephitats…period. It groups everyone, regardless of ideology under one umbrella. Period. Dot. It light of the insanity of how everyone is flipping out over stuff like that…I think it is fair to protect the kingdom until the mainstream find something else to make their cause du jour.

    Just had to clear that up.

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    Whew! We had us a flamewar! Until next time, ladies and gents, :em07:

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Nicki…my dog, Patton, used to sing three times a day when we lived on base…it started with the 9pm Taps.

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    Penis, Actually

    Hush, Hush, Sweet Penis

    Legends of the Penis

    The Penis Wears Prada

    The Penis Who Came in From the Cold

    I denounce myself.
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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin’s Bastard War-Child says:

    Whew! We had us a flamewar! Until next time, ladies and gents,

    Where are our lib trolls? Pussies.!

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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    Someone is going to have to upgrade WordPress here pretty darn fast, or soon people will not be able to log in at all.

    If it’d shut all the bickering RightTheFuckUp™, I’d do it RightFuckingNow™.

    As it is, I’ll get to it after dinner.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    Someone is going to have to upgrade WordPress here pretty darn fast, or soon people will not be able to log in at all.

    It only takes ten minutes.

    If only I knew how. Without breaking everything, that is. :em06:

    Oh, and:

    The Penis On the River Kwai

    A Penis Too Far

    The Longest Penis
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    Rhiain growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    DJ its hard to have friendly discourse when greeted with a typical response like this one from Nicki to Bruce

    Oh, please – that’s not as bad as it used to be in the old days. You ever seen BC go after somebody? Esp. with HIS vocabulary?

    I have no idea who this Bruce is, but whatevs.

    Might I respectfully request that Somebody Important start an open thread? For the holidays’ sake and all.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    My Fair Penis

    Brokeback Penis

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Library Czar says:

    Brokeback Penis

    Ouch. Just… OUCH!!!

    Bridget Jones’ Penis

    Penis, Interrupted
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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Island of Misfit Penis?

    Puts the whole abominable snowman trimming into an entirely new context… or wait… maybe I am confusing that with the Loonie Toons short?

    Oh yeah… that was tooth removal in the Rudolph special… which… actually… just became even more squicky…

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    And I guess somehow Nicki and I as well as JayBear and DJ joined the communist party sometime. As far as I know, DJ and Jay do not partake of the demon rum, so they’d remember if they did. And I doubt that Nicki or I (even though we are Russian) could ever PHYSICALLY drink enough booze and not die in the process to do so.
    I will not deny that my response to the word “nigger” is nothing but visceral disgust. Totally emotional and subjective, similar to how a word “cunt” sends some women into a psychotic rage. To me, it is an expression of noxious collectivism. Knowing where I came from, people would also know better than accusing me of supporting leftism. My Army standing has not suffered from my libertarianism being out in the open. I never was and never will be politically correct. Problem is, I am an individualist and an anti-collectivist, no matter which side collectivism comes from, right or left. It is abhorrent and unnatural to me to think of people as anything BUT individuals.
    Which brings me to why I object to the idea that a full-on civil war would be good for this country. The sad truth is, that there is no clear demarcation between forces. It is not “statism” vs “liberty”. Cthulhu knows, if it were that easy, I would be of a different opinion. The problem is, it is various versions of statism vs each other vs liberty. We have people clamoring for a leftist dictatorship on one side and others dying to see an Old-Testament-style theocracy on the other. With everything in between. Still, statism! People who are actually in favor of ABSOLUTE liberty are relatively few. Most of the ones who are pro-liberty and MEAN it I have met on this site. The majority, and present company is most probably excluded, will pay lip service to liberty, but turn into perfectly “good Germans” and even become tyrannical once their team is in power. And THAT is why I disagree with those possibly quite well-meaning souls who think that bloodshed will do this Republic any good. I can see the country disintegrating into little violent, dictatorial fiefdoms led by psychopaths and lunatics. So, I hope I clarified where I am coming from a bit.

    Now, we return to our regularly scheduled mayhem and debauchery… :em05:

    PENISPENISPENISLOL

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Island of Misfit Penis?

    Puts the whole abominable snowman trimming into an entirely new context…

    Rudolph the Red-Penised Reindeer…. Gah! Is nothing sacred, any more? My childhood is ruined, now, and I can’t stop laughing.
    :em05:

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #159:

    [audio:

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    If you want to sing along:

    Once upon a time there was a tavern
    Where we used to raise a glass or two
    Remember how we laughed away the hours
    And dreamed of all the great things we would do

    Those were the days my friend
    We thought they’d never end
    We’d sing and dance forever and a day
    We’d live the life we choose
    We’d fight and never lose
    For we were young and sure to have our way.
    La la la la…
    Those were the days, oh yes those were the days

    Then the busy years went rushing by us
    We lost our starry notions on the way
    If by chance I’d see you in the tavern
    We’d smile at one another and we’d say

    Those were the days my friend
    We thought they’d never end
    We’d sing and dance forever and a day
    We’d live the life we choose
    We’d fight and never lose
    For we were young and sure to have our way.
    La la la la…
    Those were the days, oh yes those were the days

    Just tonight I stood before the tavern
    Nothing seemed the way it used to be
    In the glass I saw a strange reflection
    Was that lonely woman really me

    Those were the days my friend
    We thought they’d never end
    We’d sing and dance forever and a day
    We’d live the life we choose
    We’d fight and never lose
    For we were young and sure to have our way.
    La la la la…
    Those were the days, oh yes those were the days

    Through the door there came familiar laughter
    I saw your face and heard you call my name
    Oh my friend we’re older but no wiser
    For in our hearts the dreams are still the same

    Those were the days my friend
    We thought they’d never end
    We’d sing and dance forever and a day
    We’d live the life we choose
    We’d fight and never lose
    For we were young and sure to have our way.
    La la la la…
    Those were the days, oh yes those were the days
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    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    You know when you see a friend in the process of making a terrible mistake, and you try to intervene, so your friend doesn’t get themselves hurt?

    So you step up, trying to keep your friend from hurting themselves, or making themselves look like a complete idiot in public

    That was the whole reason I said anything at all.

    Bluntly put, Hemp managed to trick the lot of you into making complete fools of yourselves. He trolled you harder than DJ ever thought of trolling you.

    And you fell for it. So you jumped up and down, and yelled and screamed and cussed. You looked liked like idiots.

    Now we come to my part in the play.

    I step up and suggest that you’re simply playing into his hands, and you should try a different approach, because you are winning Hemp’s fight for him. You know, trying to -help my friends-.

    Funny thing that, I’m always trying to help my friends.

    But no, instead of being a voice of reason, Now I’m some horrible douchebag for trying to protect you from yourselves. I get unfriended on Facebook, I get snippets of conversations from facebook groups about what a horrible person I am.

    All without a single person even so much as asking me what I meant. No pause for clarification. Just straight to the department of Un-Personing.

    I tried to help you, and not only did you bite me for my efforts, you took it off the site, and started attacking me elsewhere. After, of course, you made sure I couldn’t defend myself.

    Yeah, I’m a bit pissed off. I thought -better- of you people.

    So next time? you’re on your own, sunshine.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #135:
    Thank you. I was certain that the response would be wodrth the question.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    A Charlie Brown Penis

    Brown Penis?

    HOW RACIST !!!!! /

    LOL

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Roguetek says:

    But no, instead of being a voice of reason, Now I’m some horrible douchebag for trying to protect you from yourselves. I get unfriended on Facebook, I get snippets of conversations from facebook groups about what a horrible person I am.

    All without a single person even so much as asking me what I meant. No pause for clarification. Just straight to the department of Un-Personing.

    I tried to help you, and not only did you bite me for my efforts, you took it off the site, and started attacking me elsewhere. After, of course, you made sure I couldn’t defend myself.

    Rogue….thats beyond the pale, but sadly par for the course with her. Cheer up chum, MANY more people like you here than the one or three who disrespect you. Hope youre doing well.

    Glad

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    Around The Penis in 80 Days
    A Christmas Penis
    It’s a Wonderful Penis
    Frosty the Penis
    How the Penis Stole Christmas

    :em05:

    Now…. I just put a fresh supply of Bandaids and Rot Gut in the First Aid closet. I also have three bottles of Cheapshot’s Best Home Brew in the Lounge (don’t ask me how I got it). Everyone get your asses in, clean up, sit down and get drunk dammit!! :em07:

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Rogue…I’ve haven’t seen a defense similar to Hemp’s defending a blanket racist term except when Bill Clinton managed to teach our youth that a blowjob isn’t sex. And our GLORs who lived the shit some of us only hear about, who have been around for awhile don’t deserve to be played with. They already dealt with that crap from within.

    Just saying.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    And Glad…don’t you have another article to copy and paste…uncredited of course.
    I remember when stuff got copied and pasted it was to do creative frisking.

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    LC Roguetek says:

    Bluntly put, Hemp managed to trick the lot of you into making complete fools of yourselves. He trolled you harder than DJ ever thought of trolling you.

    And you fell for it. So you jumped up and down, and yelled and screamed and cussed. You looked liked like idiots.

    if you say so, I think you’re reading things into it that didn’t come to fruition. This started out of a concern about some of the rhetoric that is being tossed around here more frequently. Things like calling for the targeting of cops, hunting down and eliminating a good portion of our population because of their ideaology, and dismantling this country. It’s repeated over and over, and it gets old….no or few solutions offered, just calls to kill and tear apart. Some of us old timers just felt that it was time to step up and call them on their bullshit. I’ve been doing it for a few months now, and now others have stepped up into the fray.

    maybe it’s my “Left Coast Syndrome” talking but I fell for nothing, I offered concrete evidence of utter racist comments and Hemp spent volumes defending those comments. Why, I don’t know. I commend bruce on the hard service he saw in Vietnam, I commend you too…and I never EVER want to denigrate your service like you did to Nicki and Nat. But I will stand by my assertion that service in the name of your country does NOT excuse blanketing an entire race with slurs like TNB and knee grow, nor does it condone calling for the targeting of cops, especially to us who have family members who are cops. There is no legitimate excuse for bruces comments. If you see no problem there, then I would be careful who you call idiots.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Not to intentionally wander off on a tangent here… but…

    …the one, and only ONE thing I miss about the shrill harridan that walked out of my life in 1981 – with half of my possessions and the cat – was how well she could wrap presents. The woman was a mean spirited frigid horror-show – but every year, as I construct what looks like gift-wrap-icebergs with bows, I do miss the neatly trimmed packages she’d artfully construct – complete with sparkly ribbons hand-tied, and gold embossed gift tags.

    Me and a roll of wrapping paper is like a down-syndrome support group trying to learn origami. I buy lots and lots of bows – to cover up all the tears. We will not speak of the year I underestimated the amount of scotch-tape necessary for the task, and had to resort to silver Duck Tape. It’s become a…. “thing” during the family reunions.

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    Rhiain growls and barks:

    Hemp, there are tutorials on how to gift-wrap on YouTube. You wouldn’t believe how those came in handy a couple weeks ago.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Well what do ya know. I guess there is a use to that thing, besides a stage for jugg-ears and his gurus-of-smart to make absolute asses of themselves. Seems to be quite a few how-to guides actually. I’d have never thought of that.

    Thanks. That’s very helpful… now that I’m done <wrecking Christmas wrapping presents for the relatives.

    :em05:

    I’ll try to remember the bookmark for next year.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    If anyone is decent at geometry…you can master wrapping gifts. If you are OCD, odd shade boxes will drive you nuts. And the tale should be in half inch pieces.

    And duct tape…shudder. Unless if it’s for someone you dislike then I say wrap it in full cover duct.

    Now let me go make sure my placemats are properly centered.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    odd shade boxes will drive you nuts.

    Yes, the Almond Roca I bought for my brother cost me the better part of a roll before I just threw the thing in a gift bag with some tissue paper. Gift bags were designed for single men, by single men in my opinion.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR says:

    And Glad…don’t you have another article to copy and paste…uncredited of course.

    Struck a nerve did I harpie?
    ROFLMAO

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    if you say so, I think you’re reading things into it that didn’t come to fruition. This started out of a concern about some of the rhetoric that is being tossed around here more frequently. Things like calling for the targeting of cops, hunting down and eliminating a good portion of our population because of their ideaology, and dismantling this country. It’s repeated over and over, and it gets old….no or few solutions offered, just calls to kill and tear apart. Some of us old timers just felt that it was time to step up and call them on their bullshit. I’ve been doing it for a few months now, and now others have stepped up into the fray. [emphasis mine]

    This is something I’ve been talking about for a long time now. I would love to hear other IDEAS, have something to actually ponder on. Details of how an idea or proposed solution might work. Especially NEW ideas. All I ever hear is repeal this, cut that, kill them, and / or leave. This is destructive thinking. What we need more of is constructive ideas, along with having the ability to realize that there is no such thing as a nation or society with an all or nothing mentality.

    Everyone wants to use the Founding Fathers as an example. Do you realize that for almost ten years we almost DIDN’T become a country? Our founding fathers fought like rabid hyenas at times. They had to learn to make compromises and concessions in order to come to an agreement. Even then, there were some who continued to argue, and it has carried on to this day.

    Yet somehow we’ve endured.

    I’ve been around this site since a few nano-seconds after its blogspot incarnation. As Misha pointed out, we’ve had some doozies of arguments. 101 Fighting Keyboarders. Guerrilla politics. I’ve seen many a Liberal come and go here. (raise your hands if you were around and remember Um Yeah)

    Many people have asked me why I continued to stay on here. It’s simple. I know that I have very little chance of creating a bunch of Liberals here. (Hell, what would be the point?) No, I come here because I DO like to ponder different ideas and thoughts. I DO want to be challenged, and see things from different perspectives. Heck, it might even change MY perspective on some things.

    I learned a long time ago that we don’t have to agree on everything. But I also realized that aside from the narrow band of things we talk about here, we ALL probably agree on many more things than we disagree on. I refuse to allow the few areas we disagree on to define who we are.
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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    LC Staci GBOR says:

    And Glad…don’t you have another article to copy and paste…uncredited of course.

    Struck a nerve did I harpie?
    ROFLMAO

    Harpie…Uh, okay. :em02:

    Call it missing the days when people were creative and turned frisking into artwork that made the Rott epic. Considering “harpie” is the best you can do, I guess you should just continue to cut and paste.

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    LC Staci GBOR growls and barks:

    Fisking…stupid autocorrect.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC Staci GBOR says:

    Call it missing the days when people were creative and turned frisking into artwork that made the Rott epic. Considering “harpie” is the best you can do, I guess you should just continue to cut and paste.

    I know that the database isn’t THAT fucked up that it cannot be fixed. I think that is part of the problem here: most of the newer people here have NO idea what an actual “fisking” was all about.

    This is something that has bothered me in the past couple of years. The new people who showed up here really have NO clue as to the graceful art of the FISK. Instead, it is either a cut-n-paste without comment, or it is nothing more than a name-calling fest.

    And the stuff that I have seen cut-n-pasted here tend to be OP-EDs instead of actual fact. But then, not all of it is entirely their fault since most of what passes for “news” these days is barely more than opinion.

    I know that there are more than a few of us who are in our sixties and seventies, and we DO remember life before the Internet. The problem with it is that like the current high school students, MOST of us never really paid attention to Social Studies and History in school. Now we can “look things up” on the Internet, but given the plethora of misinformation and disinformation found there, we end up being tricked into believing things based solely on our need to not shake our core belief system.

    I could probably give you a dozen items off the top of my head where I have always WANTED to believe things to be, only to find that the facts don’t really support those beliefs.

    OUCH.

    I don’t know how many times I have tried to challenge people like Glad (and others) to step out of themselves a bit and give a full-thoated opinion of themselves on a subject without having to resort to name-calling or a cut and paste.

    I want to hear what YOU think, what YOU believe, and what YOUR solutions are. I have NO problem proposing something — I have done it here many times — I don’t mind having someone tell my why it won’t work.

    At the same time, I would LOVE to see some of you put forth a well-though-out idea or plan on a subject and tell me why exactly you think it would work. You don’t have to be a genius to have an idea or a thought. Even if I think it is a bad one I am certainly not going to hate you for it.

    The one thing I do know, given our rich history in this nation: we are a NATION OF IDEAS. It is what has made us so fucking great. As Americans, we do NOT TEAR THINGS DOWN, REPEAL THINGS OR THREATEN TO SECEED. Only LOSERS think in those terms.

    I want to challenge each and everyone here to think in POSITIVE terms. I don’t have to agree with your ideas, but I will give each and every one of you the utmost respect for actually HAVING ideas over the lack thereof.

    Who knows, perhaps coming up with new and refreshing ideas might actually spark a renewal both here out outside of this site.
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    Rhiain growls and barks:

    Does anybody have a Like post button around here? DJ’s deserves one.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    I want to challenge each and everyone here to think in POSITIVE terms.

    VA JAY JAY!

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Me and a roll of wrapping paper is like a down-syndrome support group trying to learn origami. I buy lots and lots of bows – to cover up all the tears. We will not speak of the year I underestimated the amount of scotch-tape necessary for the task, and had to resort to silver Duck Tape. It’s become a…. “thing” during the family reunions.

    I found a point of agreement with Hemp. It’s a start. Wrapping gifts is an abominable torture sent upon the human race from the bowels of hell. Gift bags, all the way!

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin’s Bastard War-Child says:

    I found a point of agreement with Hemp. It’s a start. Wrapping gifts is an abominable torture sent upon the human race from the bowels of hell. Gift bags, all the way!

    I can’t do it, it’s a talent I don’t have….when I wrap a present it looks like the dog has already chewed on it.

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    LC TerribleTroy says:

    VA JAY JAY!

    HEY!!! not cool

    how would you like if I said VA TROY TROY

    :em05:

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    Gift wrapping….ranks somewhere above the skill set one needs when rebuilding a car’s engine and below understanding quantum physics. The 1st I can manage – the second not so much, the gift wrap thingy….fergedabouit :em06:

    I had bought some little trinket or other once…twas the season and all that, and of course they offered ‘free gift wrapping” but asked for a small donation to whatever Charity was running the gift wrap table. Watching those girls whip that gift into a object of art in 90 seconds flat was about as fascinating as watching the Space Shuttle launch. I had to resist the urge to look under the table, I know they were sacrificing small furry animals to the god of gifts under there to wield such arcane wizardry.

    I’m such a disaster when wrapping gifts….I’ve been forbidden to go near the packages – the wrap, scissors, or the scotch tape. Ever. Even in July, I have to ask for permission to use the tape. It’s pathetic.
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    Naviguesser growls and barks:

    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin’s Bastard War-Child says:

    WTF is it with n00bs thinking they r 733t?

    Because in Mommy’s basement you’re the biggest bug in your own anthill.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.:
    It looks like the show tonight is To Kill a MockingBruce :em05:

    Darth Misha Himself:

    Oh, and:…

    The Longest Penis

    I’d just spoonerize it as The Dongest Lay.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.:

    It looks like the show tonight is To Kill a MockingBruce

    :em05:

    Darth Misha Himself:

    Oh, and:…

    The Longest Penis

    I’d just spoonerize it as The Dongest Lay.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Edit & delete functions seem funcked.

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    Muzzy - Imperial Ignorant Slut growls and barks:

    All the fun seems to have been had in this crazy trainwreck, and we’re heading dangerously close to group-hug territory, so I’ll just carry on playing the penis movie game.

    Dr. Strangelove (Or, ‘How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love The Penis’).
    Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Penis.
    The Green Penis.
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Cock.

    And I’m shocked, shocked that I’m the first one to say ‘Penis Hard’.

    You’ve changed, guys. You’ve gotten classy on me. I don’t like it.

    P.S. – Merry Christmas!

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    can’t believe I’m the one that has to post this

    A Fistful of Penis

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    Princess Natasha, Vlad Putin's Bastard War-Child growls and barks:

    Muzzy – Imperial Ignorant Slut @ #:
    Merry Christmas, ya damn Brit! And I think Nicki already ran with the Penis Hard series.
    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:
    Fistful of Penis was mentioned too, but I can’t remember who posted it. It was the day before yesterday I believe.
    Still, :em05:

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    The Penis’s of Navaronne

    Force Penis from Navaronne
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    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology growls and barks:

    For a Few Penises More
    The Good, the Bad and the Penis

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    But I will stand by my assertion that service in the name of your country does NOT excuse blanketing an entire race with slurs like TNB

    “TNB” doesn’t blanket an entire race. “TBB” would, but it isn’t a real term. :em02: