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Ok, a question.  Is America starting to stir out of their iPad slumber to actually stop our death march to Socialism or are we too far down the “gimme free shit road” to come back?

From a Zero Hedge reader:

My company, based in California, employs 600. We used to insure about 250 of our employees. The rest opted out. The company paid 50% of their premiums for about $750,000/yr.  Under obamacare, none can opt out without penalty, and the rates are double or triple, depending upon the plan. Our 750k for 250 employees is going to $2 million per year for 600 employees.  By mandate, we have to pay 91.5% of the premium or more up from the 50% we used to pay.  Our employees share of the premium goes from $7/week for the cheapest plan to $30/week. 95% of my employees were on that plan. Remember, we used to pay 50% now we pay 91.5% and the premiums still go up that much!!

The cheapest plan now has a deductible of $6350! Before it was $150. Employees making $9 to $10/hr, have to pay $30/wk and have a $6350 deductible!!! What!!!!  They can’t afford that to be sure. Obamacare will kill their propensity to seek medical care. More money for less care? How does that help them?

Here is the craziest part. Employees who qualify for mediCAL (the California version of Medicare), which is most of my employees, will automatically be enrolled in the Federal SNAP program. They cannot opt out. They cannot decline. They will be automatically enrolled in the Federal food stamp program based upon their level of Obamacare qualification. Remember, these people work full time, living in a small town in California. They are not seeking assistance. It all seems like a joke. How can this be the new system?

Pelosi, pass the bill to find out what’s in it? Surprise! You’ve annihilated the working class.

13 comments

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    You’ve annihilated the working class.

    All according to plan. :em08:
    And First. :em07:

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    Bones growls and barks:

    You’re right, it is per plan. I will not comply, and may the good lord have mercy on your soul if you try (p.s., you will get to ask him directly, up close and personal to his face after trying to make me comply).

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Question. What are the odds Pelosi faces a primary opponent?
    :em03:
    If this happens, what are the odds she loses to that opponent?

    Is there a way we can put a phony Libtard into the Dem primary against her, one who pushes all the Libtard buttons, and once in office, switches party and becomes a Tea Party Conservative?
    :em05:
    :em01:
    :em07:

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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    I am a health insurance broker and I can tell you that the American people are starting to wake up. When we started warning people about what was coming, many of these folks out of an old fashioned loyalty to a President didn’t want to believe us because that would mean the President purposefully lied. Many folks didn’t want to believe that and instead it was easier to just insult Obama’s opponents. Many folks had said that people will believe us when THEIR wallets are effected and sure enough…lose your health plan and all of a sudden Obama becomes the lying halfrican socialist muslim sympathizer who hates this country. I don’t care how folks get to that point as long as they do.
    Obama is too arrogant and stupid to see the REAL tidal wave coming. 1/1/15 will wash away the Democrap party when you have 1/1/15 renewals at 30% increase along with the beginning of the employer mandate and 50 million people losing their coverage. The fact the Democraps don’t see this shows either their stupidity or their hubris. Either way, they are toast if this thing isn’t repealed.

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    L.O.R. Ankle biter growls and barks:

    Massively off topic, but I don’t see a fresh open thread type place and thought yall might enjoy this. Apologies for the link to the HuffPo. This just came across my twitter timeline. A Sailor’s Dying Wish | Jennie Haskamp

    After signing my Pop, EM2 Bud Cloud (circa Pearl Harbor) up for hospice care, the consolation prize I’d given him (for agreeing it was OK to die) was a trip to “visit the Navy in San Diego.”

    I emailed my friend and former Marine sergeant, Mrs. Mandy McCammon, who’s currently serving as a Navy Public Affairs Officer, at midnight on May 28. I asked Mandy if she had enough pull on any of the bases in San Diego to get me access for the day so I could give Bud, who served on USS Dewey (DD-349), a windshield tour.

    The next day she sent me an email from the current USS Dewey (DDG 105)’s XO, CDR Mikael Rockstad, inviting us down to the ship two days later.

    Gets better from there. I would appreciate if one of you big dogs explains what the sailors are doing when they “pipe” the fellow ashore. I could hear him being announced, followed by this really long, high-pitched set of notes that made my ears cringe. Was pretty quiet other than that.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    A new and independent analysis of ObamaCare warns of a ticking time bomb, predicting a second wave of 50 million to 100 million insurance policy cancellations next fall — right before the mid-term elections.

    The next round of cancellations and premium hikes is expected to hit employees, particularly of small businesses. While the administration has tried to downplay the cancellation notices hitting policyholders on the individual market by noting they represent a relatively small fraction of the population, the swath of people who will be affected by the shakeup in employer-sponsored coverage will be much broader.

    An analysis by the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, shows the administration anticipates half to two-thirds of small businesses would have policies canceled or be compelled to send workers onto the ObamaCare exchanges. They predict up to 100 million small and large business policies could be canceled next year.

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    Folks, I have no faith in the electorate. Frankly, they’re all angry now, but this will only last until the next bright, shiny object gets their attention. Nothing will change. They will continue humping Marx’s dried up carcass as they sing praises of their jugeared fuckbatted leader. I’m so done with these people!

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    Folks, I have no faith in the electorate. Frankly, they’re all angry now, but this will only last until the next bright, shiny object gets their attention. Nothing will change. They will continue humping Marx’s dried up carcass as they sing praises of their jugeared fuckbatted leader. I’m so done with these people!

    Ah, but sestrichka moya, much as I understand and share your frustration with the voting cattle of this nation (not particularly different from the voting cattle of other nations, by the way), much as I too am getting tired of getting my hopes up for nothing, before we get together with copious amounts of vodka and schnapps and drown our sorrows while belting out atrociously off-key renditions of songs from the Motherland, not that there is anything wrong with that, it bears pointing out that there are quite a few major differences between this clusterfuck and the umpteen clusterfucks that went before.

    Obviously, there’s the whole media coverup angle. Without a 100% complicit media urgently covering up every turd their boy king left on the Persian rugs, none of the previous scandals would have been so easily forgotten. We keep forgetting, being dialed in to the news and mainlining information 24/7 to get the full picture, that most people aren’t like us. To them, F&F/NSA/IRS/Benghazi etc. were, at most, five minutes on the evening news that were never talked about again and were, anyway, mostly direct copies of the misadministration’s spin and pre-distributed talking points.

    The ObamaCare Cockup, on the other hand, is NOT going away. Not because the ObamaMedia wouldn’t rip the lungs out of their own grandmothers to make this one go away for their abusive boyfriend as well, but because they can’t. This is happening, real time, to millions of Americans all over the country, so they have to cover it.

    Then there’s the whole “but I wasn’t a Jew” angle. Sure, F&F was bad (what little the voting cattle were allowed to hear about it), but “it was all politics” and I’m not a Border Patrol agent anyway and shit happens. IRS? Wasn’t all of that just allegations based on a few rogue agents in Cincinnati and wasn’t it all about those horrid Tea Party Extremist types and therefore probably a total lie anyway as the nice gentleman on ABC said on the news? Nevermind, I’m not in the Tea Party. NSA? Seriously, that’s just crazy talk. Would our government do that to us? Not that I have anything to hide, so who cares anyway? Benghazi? That wasn’t the president’s fault! That was all just a video and those crazy jihadist motherfuckers doing what they always do! Also, we’re at war aren’t we? Don’t people die in wars? And I don’t know any of those people anyway.

    All of it easy to brush off and forget about if you’re a Low Information Voter, which 98% of voters are.

    ObamaCrash? Not so much. This hits the LIVs right where they live. Very few, in any, don’t know or have heard of somebody who lost their insurance because of it. What about that nice lady who survived cancer who was on the news who’ll probably die now because she can’t afford her plan or keep her doctor? What about Uncle Joe who has to sell the house and move into an apartment with Aunt Jeanie and the kids because Joe lost his job and Aunt Jeanie’s health plan is now “illegal” under ObamaCare. What about, oh holy FUCK what’s that 30% increase on my employer health care plan all about???

    They can’t just “ignore” this one because it hits them in the only spot they truly care about: Their wallets. And right before the holidays too! Want to really piss off an LIV American voter? Forget about politics, forget about foreign wars, illegal searches, eavesdropping, shredding the Constitution, forget about all of those and more, but DON’T threaten his or her wallet right before the holidays! Black Friday, Christmas, there are stupid baubles out there that need to be bought!

    This one is different, sestrichka, and whereas I’m not popping the champagne yet, I haven’t even bought it, it could very well have some very serious consequences for the socialist pig in chief and his disgusting party.

    Meanwhile, we can at least laugh at their helpless floundering and flailing around.

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    L.O.R. Ankle biter @ #:

    What a moving, wonderful story! Maybe, though, this link would be better (as are the comments below, with Lots of Navy folks and patriots chiming in with their own stories):

    https://idrivewarships.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/a-sailors-dying-wish/

    [the “I Drive Warships” blog]

  10. 10
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Re OBAMAcare the clusterfuck: Misha, you are underestimating us Americans. It’s not JUST the wallet — it’s the realization that we’re being herded like sheep to be shorn, then shot in the head: it’s the loss of our autonomy, our freedom, that bites the deepest.

    I have Never, in My Life, felt the visceral hatred, the utter alienation, from “my” government, which I no longer recognize as anything but a gang of Leftwing thugs, that I felt when I was FORCED to log onto Obamacare’s website.

    AGAINST OUR WILL. Title of a book about rape.

    Well, this will cheer all ya’ll up. Seems a bunch of Liberal ASSHATS are getting the Cluebat of Doom upside the head as well!!!!

    We received the letter in the mail a couple months ago. The good people at Regence Bluecross Blueshield were pleased to inform us that due to Obamacare our current low-monthly premium, comically-high deductible medical policy would no longer exist come January 1, 2014. Pleased, because a new and better plan would be offered in its place. Old monthly premium: $578 for a family of four (non-smoking, helmet-wearing, and paternally snipped). New premium: $1,123. A 94% increase.

    Once the sound of boiling blood dissipated, in my head I heard my Republican friends chuckling at the sight of a liberal Democrat hoisted ten stories high on his own petard. How’s the view up there, Obamacare Ollie?

    For the past 15 years my wife and I have made our living as freelance writers. (To young readers, I say: Do not do this. Your bliss is marvelous, but its following will need to be supported by a banker, plumber, union machinist or tenured faculty member.) As such, our health insurance is our own concern. Over the years we’ve held on to our coverage by letting our co-pay and deductible rise and our covered procedures fall. You may be aware that the three-tiered state exchange policies are labeled Gold, Silver, and Bronze, reflecting their price and level of coverage. If our policy still existed it would fall into the column of Wood.

    But Wood we had—and Wood we liked.

    No more. O.K., into the state exchange we go. I voted for it. Fair enough.

    It is our good fortune to live in Washington State, where our Democratic governor embraced the Affordable Care Act and set up a state exchange that is, according to those who’ve studied such things, the best in the nation. The website allowed me to find a plan that looked reasonable. Premera Blue Cross had a Preferred Bronze 5500 for $889 a month. Okay. Not so bad. Downside: $3,600 more in annual premiums. Upside: Free eyeglasses for the boy!

    The state exchange number put me on hold. I hung up and called Premera. “You can sign up with us directly,” a very helpful rep told me, “but if there’s a chance your income could qualify you for a subsidy, it’s best to go through the state exchange.”

    So: Back to the exchange website. Enter birth dates, zip code, tobacco use, yadda yadda, monthly income. Stop. Ponder.

    Which month, brother? For that matter, which year? Do you want gross, net, before SE (self-employment tax, a k a Social Security payments) or after? AGI (adjusted gross income) from last year’s 1040?

    For every business futurist who hails the coming of the independent contracting economy, the future that is The Brand of You, there are thousands of us out here actually building The Brand of You. It ain’t an easy hustle. If you want to get an idea of our monthly and yearly incomes, imagine a sine wave drawn by a drunken sailor. Last year my wife and I, we made out all right. This year’s kinda lean. Which year did the exchange want? Unclear.

    I went to a friend and colleague—let’s call him Peter—for advice. He also had his individual medical policy cancelled because of Obamacare. “I’m stuck on the same question—income,” he told me. Peter does a little writing, a little farming, a little this and that to keep the ship afloat. “I got through to the exchange, and the woman there told me to just estimate what my income would be this year.” In other words: Make it up. If he overestimated, he’d be screwing himself out of a subsidy, Peter said. If he underestimated, he’d be hit with a big fat bill. He wasn’t sure he wouldn’t also be accused of fraud. So he called his accountant, who’s also a lawyer.

    That only got him so far. At a certain point in the conversation, the accountant/lawyer had to get off the phone. “I have to stop answering your questions,” he told Peter. “I can’t ethically advise you, because honestly I don’t know the right thing to do. Nobody does. There are no answers. Right now it’s a complete clusterfuck.”

    Last week the frustration of people like Peter and me—Obamacare supporters who lost their current plans—was heard by the White House, which promptly panicked. On Thursday, President Obama announced a policy change that would allow insurance companies like Regence to keep customers like me on the old Wood plan for one more year. To that I say: Hah! Thanks for nothing.

    The idea that an insurer like Regence can, or will, spin on a dime and revive our ol’ $587 Woody within the next six weeks is absurd. It skews the market and undermines the entire premise of the Affordable Care Act – which is that by balancing the halt (allowing pre-existing conditions) and the hale (forcing robust young adults to get in the pool), the exchanges will over time produce a system that offers quality health care at a price my family can afford.

    Even Mike Kreidler, the deep-blue Democrat who serves as my state’s insurance commissioner, can’t support it. Hours after getting off a conference call with the White House on Thursday, Kreidler announced that the State of Washington would tell President Obama to stuff it. “In the interest of keeping the consumer protections we have enacted and ensuring that we keep health insurance costs down for all consumers, we are staying the course,” Kreidler said. “We will not be allowing insurance companies to extend their policies.”

    Which is how I found myself applauding Mike Kreidler and seething at a President I helped elect. Out here in the Land of the Brand of You, we don’t want cheap twelve-month extensions. We’re willing to suck it up and pay our fair share for health insurance. We want the exchanges to work. We’re not demanding a last-minute reprieve that threatens the stability of the entire system. What we’re asking for is clarity and competence.

    Read more at http://observer.com/2013/11/my-obamacare-cancellation/#ixzz2lGdfiZ6f
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    Emperor Misha I says:

    This one is different, sestrichka, and whereas I’m not popping the champagne yet, I haven’t even bought it, it could very well have some very serious consequences for the socialist pig in chief and his disgusting party.

    I can only hope, bratik moy, but like you, I’m just not holding my breath.

    For one, even if this ends up with some serious consequences for <0 and his party, the majority of the leeches in Congress will still be reelected – maybe not in the same incumbency numbers as before, but they'll still retain their seats. This is mostly because (borne out by numerous surveys and polls) even though the sheeple aren't satisfied with what is going on with their bank accounts, they seriously believe that it's not THEIR Congressleech that’s the problem. It’s all the others.

    The other problem is the party of Stooooopid. The GOP is doing everything possible to fuck this up. Paul Ryan came out yesterday and said there will be no cuts, there will be no government shutdown, and there will be no entitlement reform in the near future. The GOP won’t stand in the way of proregress and try to inject some fiscal responsibility into the clusterfuck we call government. As such, he’s been diligently licking the rectum of Patty Murray (D-umbass, WA) to ensure that a budget deal is reached that does not defund Obamacare, does not make any cuts, and keeps government spending at last year’s levels.

    The Republicans are just as much a problem here as the Democrats. So while we laugh with reckless abandon at the Schadenfreudelicious circus that is ObamaScare, the GOP is doing nothing to fix the problem.

    Plus, there’s that bright, shiny object that I speak of so often. It’s bound to come and take attention away from the current fiasco. Goodness knows the misadministration is doing everything humanly possible to impale Israel in the ass with a barbed-wire studded cricket bat, so that little nation gets pissed off and starts a war with Iran. Who benefits from that?

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    This one is different, sestrichka, and whereas I’m not popping the champagne yet, I haven’t even bought it, it could very well have some very serious consequences for the socialist pig in chief and his disgusting party.

    Don’t forget socialism’s golden rule: The solution to every problem brought about by socialism is more socialism.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    L.O.R. Ankle biter @ #:5
    The bos’ns pipe is a shrill, carrying, noisemaker by design, it was used to send commands from the quarter deck, where the ship was steered from, at the back end of a ship, to sailors handling sails on the fore top mast, thats all the way forward and up. The custom of piping aboard and ashore was to let everybody on ship know that a person of importance has come or gone. It is usually limited to commanding officers of ships, Admirals or Generals, and government officials such as ambassadors of cabinet members and heads of state.