Well at Least He FROWNS Upon It!

We don’t know if you’ve heard of young Australian Chris Lane who was brutally murdered in Oklahoma while out jogging by three wastes of DNA who, according to their statements when they were arrested, were “just bored, so they decided to kill somebody.” If you haven’t, you can be excused, since the OgabeMedia has been singularly disinterested in making a big deal out of it.

After all, Chris Lane looked nothing like the son that Barack the Bastard never had:

Creepy-ass cracker had it COMING!

Creepy-ass cracker had it COMING!

Oh and two of the murderous scumbags DID look a lot like the sons that Barack the Bastard never had:

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So, nothing to see here. Move along. Racists!

Needless to say, Barack the Bastard hasn’t been holding speeches about it and, equally needless to say, Jesse Hi-Jackson, Al Sharp-as-a-bowling-ball-ton and the rest of the Usual Race Baiting Suspects™ haven’t been tripping over themselves to arrange marches, inciting riots and whatnot to protest the murder of a stupid creepy-ass cracker who probably owned slaves… Oh wait, he was an Australian. Shut up. SHUT. UP!!!!

But then Jesse Hi-Jackson of the fortune squeezed out of dead bodies finally spoke up:

Oh good. He frowns upon innocent people being gunned down by bored teenagers. Did you hear that? He FROWNS upon it! Oy vey! The Frown of Doom™ hath been unleashed!

Well that fixes that, we suppose, because who can withstand The Frown™ of almighty Jesse Hi-Jackson? Never since Henry V’s speech before Agincourt has such righteous, devastating FURY been unleashed! Never in the history of mankind has truth been so convincingly spoken to power. Never since Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the Castle Church of Wittenberg has such a clear denunciation been posted!

We bow down in awe, for who can withstand the awesome power of the frown, THE FROWN, WE TELL YOU?!

Glad that’s all been settled.

Now go die in a fire, you worthless sack of ghetto trash filth.

Thatisall.

27 comments

  1. 1

    Fantastic. Nothing better to do. Horseshit.
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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    If you haven’t, you can be excused, since the OgabeMedia has been singularly disinterested in making a big deal out of it.

    That would be “uninterested,” my Liege.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Xystus says:

    That would be “uninterested,” my Liege.

    You may have a point there. I was aiming for the difference that exists in my native language between being just “not interested” and “having a vested interest in ignoring something deliberately for personal reasons” or, you might say, “feigning lack of interest to hide your actual interest.”

    It may not exist in English. Still learning :-)
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    LC R6 growls and barks:

    That is the blackest “white” kid I’ve seen since the remaining 4.8 ounces of mikey jackson rotted out of the plastic shell it was in.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    I’m not one for the death penalty normally- But I’d be more than happy to see each one of them escorted to the gallows, no hood, no service, no chaplain, then see each and every one of them dance on the end of a rope.

    Burn the bodies and scatter the ashes in a garbage dump.

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    LCBrendan @ # 5: I like that, sounds about right.
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    Mark growls and barks:

    Do these cretins look like Obama’s kid’s? Hang these monsters along with their apologists.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Because they were “bored”.

    Aside from YOUR idiotic “race-bating”, regardless of what ethnic backgrounds these monsters are, they all three deserve the death penalty — along with the incarceration of their PARENTS.

    Frankly, the PARENTS of monsters like these should be held accountable also. This is one of the problems we have today — parents either “aren’t allowed” or choose not to get involved in the discipline of their kids.

    A local radio program in Seattle posted a poll on FB yesterday asking whether it was appropriate to spank or “swat” their children. Most of the responses said “yes, in certain incidnces” but the “experts” on the radio show yesterday afternoon said “no, that it is NOT appropriate to spank your children”.

    WTF?

    Some of my most distinct memories as a child were the “beatings” I got when I did something wrong. It didn’t always prevent me from doing stupid things, but I certainly thought twice about them.

    These kids monsters here really should have been better supervised and disciplined by their parents for the 16 and 17 years prior to all of this. This is why I think the parents should ALSO be held accountable for the monsters they unleash on the world.

    If you started holding parents accountable for their children’s actions, you can bet that there would be a lot better behaved chillren in the world.

    As far as the “Obama”s kid” remarks? How in the greasy fuck is any of this relevant?

    More importantly, why are you paying ANY attention to Jesse Jackson? The really funny thing here is that the ONLY place I have even found a mention to Jesse Jackson on this is on three RIGHT wing blogs. NObody else has even noticed him.
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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #8:

    If you started holding parents accountable for their children’s actions, you can bet that there would be a lot better behaved chillren in the world.

    That’s the crux of the problem, Deej, the parents are either not allowed to properly discipline the little hellions, or they just don’t give a Rat’s Ass.

    Start with hanging the lawyers/politicians, then work your way down to the parents. But be sure to beat the kids FIRST, just to let them know “what they done ain’t socially acceptable or correct”. In this particular instance, shoot each one of THEM in the back at the same place and see how long *they* survive. Punishment fitting the crime, and all that………

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    “Jesse Hi-Jackson, Al Sharp-as-a-bowling-ball-ton and the rest of the Usual Race Baiting Suspects™ haven’t been tripping over themselves to arrange marches, inciting riots and whatnot to protest the murder of a stupid creepy-ass cracker who probably owned slaves… Oh wait, he was an Australian.”

    Exactly – he was Australian. And what was Australia? A penal colony. So really, all that happened was a criminal got killed by armed citizens on patrol. Sure, some people claim he was out “jogging,” but come on – Australian. He was just casing the neighborhood for places to rob. I thought you Reichwingers were supposed to be in favor of citizens exercising their 2nd Amendment rights to protect themselves from crime. Hypocrites, the lot of you.
    - Barack Obama

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    If you started holding parents accountable for their children’s actions, you can bet that there would be a lot better behaved chillren in the world.

    Jahwohl! Ein bisschen Sippenhaft or some other form of collective punishment is just the thing. But really, why stop at parents. As the presumptive 2016 President famously wrote: It takes a village to raise a child. Put the whole neighborhood to the sword, for they have all failed in properly raising these children.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    More importantly, why are you paying ANY attention to Jesse Jackson? The really funny thing here is that the ONLY place I have even found a mention to Jesse Jackson on this is on three RIGHT wing blogs. NObody else has even noticed him.

    Oh, and I’m sure that Jesse Hi-Jackson and the “racism, racism everywhere” Junta in DC would just fucking love it that way. “Just ignore him when he speaks out his ass so we can trot him out as an AUTHORITAH when we need to.”

    Does that answer your question?

    He’s a fucking useless assclown who, in a just world, would have been drowned long ago, and the only way to shut his ignorant, tree-dwelling, race-baiting pignorant ass up is to hang him out in the wind when he, again, lets his ass hang out in public view.
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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Jahwohl! Ein bisschen Sippenhaft or some other form of collective punishment is just the thing.

    No, dummkopf, Once again you take things out to their extremes.

    But look at it this way — if your “parenting style” is producing monsters, then you really need to share in the consequences of their actions. If your spawn breaks into my house and ransacks or destroys my property, then I can come after you for damages. The same should hold true for criminal sanctions. Maybe not for the full scope of charges the child is responsible, but at least for neglect and bad parenting skills if it can be proven that that neglect and bad parenting contributed to the bad behavior of the child.

    Yes, there would have to be some major exceptions to all of this. Some kids are just plain bad seeds. No amount of solid parenting is ever going to change that. You should be able to show that you didn’t just leave your kid alone to fend for himself, let him run wild in the streets, and pretty much abandoned him to his own devices.

    This kind of behavior doesn’t just sprout up instantly, there are YEARS of warning signs. Not only has the parent noticed, but everyone around the kid has noticed also. If you, as a parent continues to ignore the problem then you have become PART of that problem.

    Holding parents accountable for the actions of their offspring is NOT a new concept. But like telling parents they can no longer spank their children or otherwise “discipline” them letting parents off the hook for their brat’s actions has also become the accepted practice.

    Parents who discipline their children (and I am not talking about beating the daylights out of them) end up with much better behaved children in most cases. Parents who are fully committed and involved in their children’s lives end up raising well-adjusted and law-abiding adults, with a few exceptions.

    The parents I am talking about are the ones who push a kid out of their festering pussy and let them roam throughout their childhood like stray animals, and fathers whose only tie to their progeny is the night they decided to stick their syphilitic stump into that festering pussy.

    These three monsters here I am sure have some really award-wining parental units. You can tell by how well behaved they’ve been.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    He’s a fucking useless assclown who, in a just world, would have been drowned long ago, and the only way to shut his ignorant, tree-dwelling, race-baiting pignorant ass up is to hang him out in the wind when he, again, lets his ass hang out in public view.

    Were you looking for me to rebutt that?
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    redc1c4 growls and barks:

    this is Barry, “The SCOAMF” Obumble’s “My Three Sons” moment.

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    Cougar1978 growls and barks:

    Fuck you Jackson, you cold-blooded race pimp! The media knows who the fuck Trayvon Purple Drank Martin is, but I have yet to hear you Goebbels motherfuckers mention this poor dead man’s name.

    Christ Lane. CHRIS LANE! CHRIS FUCKING LANE you cunt-drip slathering sacks of shit!

    Drop fucking dead you fake reverend. You’re no man of God, motherfucker! Fuck you with a dull and rusty fucking sword, you fuck!

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Get the feeling somebody wants a war?

    WWII vet, beaten by teens outside Eagles Lodge, dies

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    Once again you take things out to their extremes.

    Yeah, because that’s the one thing you can be sure of about governments and the individuals who work for them – they will never, ever, under absolutely any possible condition, seek to expand the scope, reach, or strength of a law. Never. Not once in all of human history. It is absolutely unheard of. Are you familiar with the crime of burglary? Know what it used to be: the breaking and entering of the dwelling house of another, at night, with the intention of committing an act of theft therein. Pretty specific, right? Gives the what, there where, and the how. Want to know what it is now? Entering a building with the intent to commit a felony. It’s been broadened a bit over the years. Purely by accident, I’m sure. If only the courts and legislatures were aware of this, they would correct the error immediately. Wait, what’s that you say? THEY WERE THE ONES WHO EXPANDED IT FAR BEYOND ITS ORIGINAL SCOPE? Nah, can’t be.

    Yes, there would have to be some major exceptions to all of this. Some kids are just plain bad seeds. No amount of solid parenting is ever going to change that.

    Then there is no practical way to make a workable law.

    You should be able to show that you didn’t just leave your kid alone to fend for himself, let him run wild in the streets, and pretty much abandoned him to his own devices.

    Ahh – forcing the parents to prove a negative in order to escape liability. Yeah, absolutely NO possible chance for prosecutorial abuse there. Maybe you can put an asset forfeiture clause in there to make sure that the assorted police agencies really like to enforce it, too. I mean, it makes sense, right? Gotta have some way to make sure that the evil parents pay for the crimes of their children. Are you going to impose mandatory child rearing classes for everyone in society? As you state it, the law would be one of malum prohibitum, not malum in se (requiring an evil intent). Who’s going to pay for the training? What’s the punishment? Imprisonment? Ok, they’re adults, their kids are juvies, kid gets out well before the parent(s)….and is thus left on his/her own, unsupervised by parents – which, of course, is the exact thing your law would be intended to prevent. That’s useful!

    This kind of behavior doesn’t just sprout up instantly, there are YEARS of warning signs. Not only has the parent noticed, but everyone around the kid has noticed also.

    So then there’s a pretty good basis for extending the law to cover teachers, juvie court judges, police, and “everyone around the kid”. They saw – and may well have contributed to – a dangerous condition and did nothing.

    Holding parents accountable for the actions of their offspring is NOT a new concept.

    Hell, why stop there? Holding entire races and/or religions accountable for the actions of their members is NOT a new concept, either. Collective punishment is a common theme throughout history. That doesn’t mean it’s a GOOD idea, though – it’s waaaay too easy to abuse.

    The parents I am talking about are the ones who push a kid out of their festering pussy and let them roam throughout their childhood like stray animals, and fathers whose only tie to their progeny is the night they decided to stick their syphilitic stump into that festering pussy.

    There’s a useful legal standard! Who determines what behavior meets that? Do you hold poor parents who work multiple jobs just to keep food on the table liable if their kid joins a gang or engages in some hooligan behavior because he’s left along all day liable? What about parents who think their child might have some real mental problems – say, a budding psycho/sociopath – and do what they can, but get passed over by the system/can’t afford much – are they liable? You think a prosecutor still wouldn’t go after them, especially if the kid did something like these three future astronauts?

    Do we, as a society, play the odds and sterilize (even if only temporarily, via something like Norplant) the groups most likely to be parents of this ilk? Whoops, you just potentially committed genocide (violation of Article II (d), to be specific). Mandatory adoptions of at-risk kids? Whoops, genocide, again. (Article II(e) this time.)

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    Eric Praline growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #16:
    Delbert “Shorty” Belton survived Okinawa but he couldn’t survive the Ogabe/Heinrich Holder junta. And it’s only going to get worse.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #17:

    So it is your contention that the fucked up parents have no culpability in the actions of their evil spawn if they failed to properly raise them. Save the fetus and neglect the child, right? Everyone has a gawd-given right to shit out any number of kids they want, even if there is no way in hell they will ever properly care for them, right? The parent’s “duty” ends at the maternity room?

    Clowns like you scream like raped apes if you think you have to pay welfare checks for out-of-wedlock mothers, yet when faced with the idea that you might be held responsible for your lack of raising a child because that monster decides to kill an innocent person because that kid is “bored”, or some other group of shit stains decide to beat an old man to death just for kicks, and suddenly you think that is a bridge too far?

    Maybe you should keep a better eye on your brats. This isn’t about “proving a negative”, most people know what kids are being completely neglected and ignored by the parents. You don’t even have to know the parents to see how a kid is acting out. The parents who are involved in their children’s lives are the ones who attend the meetings with their kid’s teachers, they know who the other parents are, they are involved in their children’s extra-curricular activities. The neglected and undisciplined kids stand out like sore thumbs.

    I know that this is controversial to say, but sometimes I wish there was a actual background investigation and a test that parents would have to take before they are allowed to have children. FUCK the “rights” of the sperm donating father and the incubating mother when it comes to having a “right” to have and care for a child. If you were TRULY concerned about the “rights” of the “unborn”, you would carry on your concern into the childhood of that fetus once it is born. If it were up to me, I would be issuing Norplant to virtually every woman of child bearing age until they can show they are able to properly care for a child for eighteen years.

    Understand that MOST people will be able to demonstrate their ability to bear and raise children. I don’t mean that I would make it impossible for that to happen. My reasoning would be to deny those people who would drop a child like they would a shit in a communal toilet and walk away from any further responsibility.

    I also realize that this would NEVER happen. What I am saying here is only mental masturbation — nothing more. Society would never grow a set of balls that would ever allow such a thing to happen, and because of that, we will still continue to see bullshit like this happen.
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    Bones growls and barks:

    Wow, DJ, sometimes your utterances are profound but most of the time it just shows your profound progressive stupidity. You have summed up the progressive thought process in one small post for all to see….”Only I know what is good for you. YOU cannot have any kids until you prove your fit, to me. I will run your life so that you can have the happy life that my progressive soul desires for you”. Ya wanna know summin? I do not give a fuck what you, or any other progressive wants. I will not be ruled by you or any other thing, human or otherwise. Your very thought process above is an affront to any individual who values freedom. :em08: :em08:

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Bones says:

    Wow, DJ, sometimes your utterances are profound but most of the time it just shows your profound progressive stupidity. You have summed up the progressive thought process in one small post for all to see….”Only I know what is good for you. YOU cannot have any kids until you prove your fit, to me. I will run your life so that you can have the happy life that my progressive soul desires for you”. Ya wanna know summin? I do not give a fuck what you, or any other progressive wants. I will not be ruled by you or any other thing, human or otherwise. Your very thought process above is an affront to any individual who values freedom.

    As typical of a Right winger, you respond in absolutes to a hypothetical.

    Should I have prefaced my remarks first by stating that what I suggested was only a hypothetical suggestion and had absolutely ZERO chance of ever being implemented? I mean, I did put that at the END of my last comment, but I am sure you probably never got that far before you flew off the handle.

    One cannot have a discussion without introducing more than one viewpoint or suggestion for consideration. Just because someone makes a suggestion doesn’t necessarily mean that it needs to be adopted. Only that the merits or demerits of that suggestion might be considered — and possibly a direction NOT to go in.

    My main question here is at what point do the parents of these monsters stop being responsible for their child’s actions? From what I am seeing here is that you don’t feel they have any responsibility whatsoever in how their kids turn out. It can’t be the parent’s fault if they choose to let their child raise itself and run amok around the neighborhood and society. It can’t be the parent’s fault if the only “love” that child feels is from the “family” of a gang of similar feral humans.

    You all talk a great game about the welfare mother who squeezes out child after child in order to collect a welfare check, but you would outlaw abortion, and completely ignore the child once it leaves the womb — just like that mother who squeezed it out.

    Then you wonder why we have kids like this. Gee, you don’t need Doctor Spock to figure that out, do you?

    There has always been a direct correlation between discipline and behavior. Hell, your bible even talks about it (but it is probably in one of the sections you conveniently thumb past)

    I am guessing — based on many of the writings on this site — that you would probably have no problem telling a black woman she shouldn’t (or couldn’t) have a child. Especially someone who is on welfare or likely to be on welfare.

    [enter predictable protestation, indignation, and obligatory "fuck you Deej" here...]

    There, feel better now? Now that that is out of the way…

    One thing I keep noticing about you Libertarian types, is that you are quick to point out an outrage or a problem, but when it comes to any kind of solution you are completely bankrupt on ideas. No type of solution at all. Heaven forbid that someone even makes a suggestion, because you can never talk about the suggestion, only attack the person bringing up that suggestion.

    The thing about suggestions is that they are just that — suggestions. They are put for for discussion, NOT implementation. This seems to be lost on a lot of you. Of course a lot of that comes from an inability to actually debate something or even think for oneself. There is no being “wrong” in these kinds of things — especially since NONE of us are in a position to implement anything.

    There is one absolute truth here that I think we can ALL agree on:

    The killing of Chris Lane and others like it is wrong, and we must come down hard on the perpetrators.

    The questionable statement that follows is this:

    We should try to do something about preventing future crimes of this nature.

    This one I am seeing some sort of reluctance here. I threw out some suggestions and only one person — Igor — actually understood what I was saying. It doesn’t mean he accepted my suggestion, only the premise behind it — that out of control kids are usually the product of out of control parenting. Or the complete lack of parenting at all.

    Yes, Igor is correct: we’ve allowed the laws to restrict how a parent disciplines their child. In some cases, simply yelling at your kid can be considered “mental child abuse”, and forget about spanking or swatting your child. That could be construed as “beating” the kid. These are challenges that the RESPONSIBLE parents have to deal with.

    The irresponsible parents don’t even bother with discipline. The don’t give a flying fuck what their kids are doing. They usually leave the kids to fend for themselves. We laugh at sitcoms like Shameless without really connecting the dots.

    We can sit here and “blame” all we want. But not only is it stupid, it is a colossal waste of time.

    But hey, lemme sit here and wait to hear some actual suggestions of your own.
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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    You all talk a great game about the welfare mother who squeezes out child after child in order to collect a welfare check

    Easy fix, Get rid of welfare all together, and the incentive to keep having extra dependents so they get a bigger check.

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    and we must come down hard on the perpetrators.

    Yup, do the crime and are convicted, you get one appeal, then you are taken out back, forced to dig yor own grave, shot in the head, and those useless pieces of trash that raised you are billed for the bullet.

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    [enter predictable protestation, indignation, and obligatory "fuck you Deej" here...]

    Oh, And FUCK YOU DJ! :em05:

    Sorry, you asked for it

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    LC R6 growls and barks:

    As typical of a Right winger, you respond in absolutes to a hypothetical.

    As a typical leftist cumcatcher you can’t stand it when someone says “hey look! deej just said the sky is blue!” You have to mewl about innuendo and how you “alluded” to the fact that the sky, as SOME call it, could very well BE blue if everyone would just understand that color is all about degrees of absolutes and blind people are just extremists that want to oppress reds, yellows, greens and magentas.

    I’ve said it for years.

    You.

    Are.

    An asshole.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    So it is your contention that the fucked up parents have no culpability in the actions of their evil spawn if they failed to properly raise them.

    No. The law recognizes that parents can be held liable for the negligence of their children in some circumstances. However, imposing criminal liability on one because of the independent act of another is a very different thing. I guess you could try to impose RICO-type liability, but you’d have to show that the parent benefited from the crime, or you could maybe make it a conspiracy allegation if the parent provided some form of support to the actual crime itself.

    But then what happens if the kid commits a crime while at school (or while he/she is supposed to be at school)? Do you hold the teachers and administration responsible? They have control of the child, and according to you, they should know he/she is evil because it’s so obvious.

    Save the fetus and neglect the child, right?

    Show me where I’ve ever said anything like that. As a practical matter, Progs have most of the abortions, so I don’t really care if they decide to whack their own. As an ethical/moral matter, people have to govern their own actions and live with the consequences. If someone decides to abort their own child, the blood is on their hands. There are times when I could see that it is hard decision, but justified (severe birth defect, ectopic pregnancy), and others (“a child is just *so* inconvenient”) where it isn’t. But ultimately, the parent(s) involved will decide whatever they decide.

    Everyone has a gawd-given right to shit out any number of kids they want, even if there is no way in hell they will ever properly care for them, right?

    That’s liberty for ya. It doesn’t protect the right to make good decisions, it protects the right to make bad ones.

    Clowns like you scream like raped apes if you think you have to pay welfare checks for out-of-wedlock mothers, yet when faced with the idea that you might be held responsible for your lack of raising a child because that monster decides to kill an innocent person because that kid is “bored”, or some other group of shit stains decide to beat an old man to death just for kicks, and suddenly you think that is a bridge too far?

    Ad hominem much? Also, non-sensical: by what mental gymnastics do you think *I* can be held responsible if “some other group . . . decide to beat an old man”. But no, I don’t think I should have to pay for some third-party’s children. If I ever have a kid who becomes a thrill-killer? In the best case scenario for the hypothetical kid, It will go an awful lot like this, with me playing the part of Paulie, but without the handful of cash. Otherwise, he/she will get treated to this.

    Maybe you should keep a better eye on your brats. This isn’t about “proving a negative”, most people know what kids are being completely neglected and ignored by the parents. You don’t even have to know the parents to see how a kid is acting out. The parents who are involved in their children’s lives are the ones who attend the meetings with their kid’s teachers, they know who the other parents are, they are involved in their children’s extra-curricular activities. The neglected and undisciplined kids stand out like sore thumbs.

    Child neglect is already a crime and grounds for removal from parental custody. Of course, like as not, the kid will go to some gladiator academy, but hey, the state is always good at raising kids. Hmmm..lots of “state raised” kids start bad and end worse – should we be prosecuting the state for their crimes? After all…the state was the parent and knew that they were bad seeds.

    I know that this is controversial to say, but sometimes I wish there was a actual background investigation and a test that parents would have to take before they are allowed to have children. FUCK the “rights” of the sperm donating father and the incubating mother when it comes to having a “right” to have and care for a child.

    “Controversial” is one way to describe it. “Totalitarian” is another, perhaps more accurate way.

    If you were TRULY concerned about the “rights” of the “unborn”,

    I’m not concerned about the “‘rights’ of the ‘unborn’”, and I pretty much never talk about abortions, as I will never be having, or performing, one. But, since you bring it up, my take is this: Virtually every state allows the use of lethal force to protect the life of another. If someone truly believes abortion is murder, they should feel free – with a clear conscience – to kill any/all who perform abortions, and they can make their argument in court and see how it goes. Should a jury vote to acquit, I would have no problem with that – the community would have decided that killing the unborn was an act of sufficient evil to allow for justified homicide in its prevention/stopping.

    If it were up to me, I would be issuing Norplant to virtually every woman of child bearing age until they can show they are able to properly care for a child for eighteen years . . . Understand that MOST people will be able to demonstrate their ability to bear and raise children. I don’t mean that I would make it impossible for that to happen. My reasoning would be to deny those people who would drop a child like they would a shit in a communal toilet and walk away from any further responsibility.

    Aaand you’re back to totalitarianism again.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    You’re missing the main point, Deej, at least as far as I’m concerned.

    No matter how much I might agree with you that some people should never ever have children, and we agree a lot on that issue, your well-intentioned “solution” isn’t one. Because government would be in charge of passing judgment on those cases, and anybody who still trusts government agencies to as much as give them the correct time of day is a complete, utter retard.

    Besides, we already have laws against criminal neglect and another three-letter agency to “take care” of the issue, the Child Abductive Services or, as they were known when they were established with The Best of Intentions™, the CPS.

    They, by the way, are a perfect example of why you’d be an idiot to trust government with pretty much anything.

    Because what happened after they’d been established to rescue children who were actually in danger and their funding was tied to how many children they “rescued?”

    You give a government agency a bunch of hammers and tell them they’ll get $1,000 for every nail they pound in and I can guaran-fucking-tee you that they’ll be seeing nails in need of a hammering everywhere.

    Which is exactly what happened. To the point where parents are now afraid to take their kids to the ER for vital treatment because some idiot quack with an agenda might decide that Junior’s broken wrist is “evidence” of systematic abuse, after which said parents can spend all they own trying to prove a negative against a government bureaucracy with infinite resources. Best of luck with that.

    You see a child, your child, with a broken wrist from falling off his bicycle. THEY see a fat paycheck if they can remove him and have him moved to foster care.

    The only thing government workers are good for these days is road fill. It wasn’t always thus, but the solution to that problem is not creating more of them.
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    Hell, you want the prime example of why the government can’t be trusted to “rescue” children from alleged bad parenting?

    Waco. I mean, I guess the government did place the kids beyond any risk of future harm, but they did so in a very drastic fashion. Further, they were wasteful – they could have just burned them as part of the initial raid and not wasted resources on an extended siege.

    Oh, and with DPS – one of the grounds for finding someone an unfit parent is if the parent denies the charge that they are an unfit parent. Actually had that one pop up in a case at my old firm.