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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    I just picked up my CCW today and a box of .45 hollow points. I am a good guy with a gun. :em01:

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    maxxdog growls and barks:

    Good evening
    The hoplophobies are stupid and something. Stupid alone just doesn’t get it done, ya know?
    You’d think simple illustrations would suffice but logic and common sense can’t change the mind of someone who has no concept of either.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Just make any sort of weapon-control law subject to a mandatory three-year (federal) or two-year (State/local) phase in period, with no exemptions or waivers:

    Year 1 (Fed): law applies to all Federal agencies & military
    Year 2 (Fed): law applies to all State/local agencies Year 1 (State): law applies to all State/local offices/agencies
    Year 3 (Fed): law applies to the general public Year 2 (State): law applies to the general public

    That way, we get to test the efficacy of the law before it is applied to the general population, and the general population will be able to protect itself during the period when any flaws would present themselves. Very few politicians are going to vote to defang their protectors.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Der Fubar’s cuteness.

    [I fixed it, Xy. I trust this is what you were trying to show… -Spats]

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    single stack says:

    , their coffee is some of the nastiest tasting crap I ever put in my mouth. I understand why people who drink it put all the cream and other expensive flavors in it.

    AMEN!! I Drank It once last year, because that was the coffee shop in the Hospital my buddy was in, $3 something for a coffee you could barely stomach, went to the cafateria later that day/early morning, 1 cup of coffee you didn’t evem need sugar in, $1, if you drank it in the cafateria you got 1 free refill

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    single stack says:

    their coffee is some of the nastiest tasting crap I ever put in my mouth. I understand why people who drink it put all the cream and other expensive flavors in it. It’s so they can’t taste the coffee but they can still be hip and cool carrying around a Starbuck’s cup.

    Amen to that. Besides ,McDonalds coffee tastes GOOD and is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cheaper.

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    single stack growls and barks:

    Look, I come from the land of Starbucks, where there is at least one on every corner. I can’t remember the last time I actually went into a Starbucks.

    The one and only time I ever set foot in a Starbuck’s was in Boston when several friends and I were walking the Freedom Trail. While I was up there I always drank Dunkin Donuts coffee, which is pretty good. When I’m home in God’s Country (the South) I prefer Waffle House coffee when I’m away from home. At home I use Community Coffee and grind the beans myself and make it in a Mr Coffee machine. I’m just a “cup’a java” kind of guy.

    I brought up Starbucks because yesterday was declared “Starbucks Appreciation Day” by some group of “national gun owners”.

    I wasn’t aware of that. I think that sort of thing is stupid anyway.
    If a company puts up “no guns allowed” signs I simply no longer will set foot on their property for any reason. Even if they later take the signs down for economic reasons I still won’t do business with them because they have demonstrated hostility to liberty and are therefor my enemy.
    Even though it’s now legal to open carry in Mississippi, I won’t do it because, like you, I don’t want anyone to know I have a gun unless it’s necessary to make a very loud noise with it.

    I remember when beepers came out years ago, before cell phones. EVERYONE had to get a beeper and display that thing on your belt for everyone to see how “important” you were. It quickly became a status symbol. It didn’t MAKE you any more or less important, but boy did you FEEL important. Then the big brick cell phones came out. Remember those things? They were huge and they weighed like five pounds, and walking down the street with the damn thing attached to your ear while you talked to someone you probably wouldn’t have talked to otherwise made you “feel” important.

    Now it’s people walking around with bluetooth headsets as if they want people to think they’re so important they have to be able to answer a call instantly.

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Starbucks…testament that people will drink scalding hot charcoal colored dog piss if you make it expensive enough, serve it in an expansive place served by obnoxious little shits just so you can look cool and hip (which your not, your just an idiot).

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Meet the 2016 GOP Presidential nominee:

    Chris Christie Signs 10 Gun Bills Into Law

    One of the new laws will disqualify any person on the federal terrorist watch list from obtaining firearms identification cards or permits to purchase handguns.

    Civil liberties advocates have criticized the watch list for its secrecy. The list is not public, nor can one petition to have his name removed from it. There were about 420,000 names on the watch list as of 2011. It has swollen to nearly 900,000 as of this year.

    Guess it’s a good way to find out if your on the list…

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    single stack growls and barks:

    Why do you have to consider them your “enemy”? What about their “liberty” to not have firearms on their property? I hate to break this to you, but your “liberty” is only confined to YOUR property or PUBLIC property.

    They’re my enemy because they’re hostile to freedom.. They can exercise their liberty to not have firearms on their property all they want and I will respect their right to do so by not ever setting foot on their property. I won’t willingly enter a gun free zone whether I’m armed or not.
    I treat such people as pariahs. I won’t associate with them socially as well as refusing to do business with them. I refuse to shake their hands, and the ones who have told me (and others), “Don’t pay any attention to the sign, it doesn’t apply to people like you”, get told off in no uncertain terms. I refuse to voluntarily finance my own destruction.
    I’m not limiting myself, and it’s not lost on others. I’m drawing a line that won’t be crossed. I’m fed up with the crap and my example has convinced others to stop taking it too. Where would we be if our ancestors were afraid to “limit” themselves or be inconvenienced?
    I swore an oath long ago that I still take seriously. If continuing to keep it inconveniences me so be it. My little bit of discomfort is nothing compared to what those who upheld it before me went through.

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    readerjp growls and barks:

    Store owner pulls gun on thieves, may lose lease

    A Memphis, Tenn., business owner is under fire and may lose his lease after he chased three robbers from his store with a 9 mm handgun – all because his cookie shop is located in a mall with a “no firearms” policy.

    Police are still looking for the thieves who stole $45 from a cash register in the Southland Mall Cookie Bakery on Aug. 7. After the men made off with the money, the store owner chased them into the parking lot and fired three warning shots.

    According to reports, the gun was legally owned and there were no injuries.

    Thirteen security guards work at the mall and the Memphis Police Department’s South Precinct is located nearby. However, in 2010, one security guard – a former Marine – was shot and killed by a gang member at the mall as he tried to break up a fight. State prosecutor Ray Lepone said he “was brutally murdered in cold blood in broad daylight in front of women and children.”

    After the shooting, the mall instituted a strict no firearms policy, even for security guards. The mall posts warnings on its doors indicating no guns are allowed on the premises.

    Memphis City Council member Harold Collins told WHBQ-TV even though the store owner has the right to protect his property, he didn’t exercise good judgment.

    “Do you fault him for exercising that kind of judgment? Of course you do,” he said. “There ought to be penalties for that. I’m hoping that [there] will be.”

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Thirteen security guards work at the mall and the Memphis Police Department’s South Precinct is located nearby. However, in 2010, one security guard – a former Marine – was shot and killed by a gang member at the mall as he tried to break up a fight. State prosecutor Ray Lepone said he “was brutally murdered in cold blood in broad daylight in front of women and children.”

    After the shooting, the mall instituted a strict no firearms policy, even for security guards. The mall posts warnings on its doors indicating no guns are allowed on the premises.

    Oh man, now that there is some very, very special Weapons Grade Stupid™!

    So, let me see if I can follow the “logic” here: A gang banger who, I’m willing to bet you, was already breaking the law by even having a firearm guns down a security guard with said illegally owned firearm. As a “response”, the mall decided to disarm — the security guards.

    SRSLY? Why not make them wear neon yellow vests with bulls eyes painted on them as well? That will really stop the gang bangers!

    Oh wait. No, I get it: By telling the gang bangers that the guns that they’re already breaking the law by owning can’t be carried into the mall, lest the gang bangers become guilty of breaking the law which they’ve already broken… Er… No… Does not compute.

    Hoplophobes are simply too damned stupid to be allowed to breed, period. Forced sterilization, end of discussion.

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #: 20

    Wonder how many of those “security guards” are going to break up fights, chase shoplifters or just keep order now? Or are they going to set up a permanent guard shack at the coffee kiosk?

    Welcome to your next gun-free zone shooting venue…the lawyers are probably already salivating at the lawsuits they’ll slap mall with when the next shooting happens and they didn’t prevent it.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    When I carry, I don’t advertise it. In fact, I would rather nobody knows. Nobody NEEDS to know.

    Agreed. Twice I’ve had to show my weapon to discourage impolite behavior. Firing a shot was not necessary.

    DJ while I agree that a mall is private property it is not black and white as how private it is. There is the concept of quasi-public property and the courts have ruled in the past that most public access malls fall in this category. What bothers me most about the above story is not that the mall is a victim free for all zone but that in the story it says he fired three warning shots. What did he fire at and why warning shots? Is this guy related to Joe Biteme? If he is he may want to rethink arming himself.

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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    One solution I can see is for dealing with the liability issues. Perhaps passing state laws to restrict who an injured party can hold liable for something they did not directly do. That would go a LONG ways towards doing away with the absurdness of it all.

    Careful, Deej – that’s skating dangerously close to (GASP, ARRRRGH!!!!!) TORT REFORM!!!1!!!ONE!!!!!ELEVENTYQUADRILLION!!!1!~. Your fellow lefties will have yer head on a stick. :em05:

    (SIDE NOTE: Xystus, check back upthread. I think I fixed your difficulty.)

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    readerjp growls and barks:

    If it’s all about insurance, then why is the city council member chiming in? And threatening to enact some kind of law or punitive measures against the bakery owner?

    Also, I wonder if they ever solved the murder of the previous security guard.

    And if the police station is so close, can’t they do checks?

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Must see TV

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    They unveiled a new painting in our state capitol up in Tallahassle,,
    I was beyond appalled,, but, with a bit of tinkering,?t=1376335873″ rel=”nofollow”> it’s better now.

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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech @ #31:

    Yes. MUCH better. Much more accurate, as well. Can I commission you to do the paint-over?

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    Igor, Imperial Booby says:

    Can I commission you to do the paint-over?

    Only if I can skip the brushes n’ use the carving tools.
    On second thought,, it’s flammable,, maybe I shouldn’t be left alone with it..

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Website Shows Off Chicago-Themed Tattoos: Would You Ever Get One?

    Updated 08/14/13 – 1:45 p.m.

    WASHINGTON (CBS) – Saying he used his campaign fund as “a personal piggy bank,” a federal judge sentenced former Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. to 2 ½ years in prison for misusing $750,000 in campaign money to fund a lavish lifestyle.

    And, despite defense pleas to spare his wife from also going to prison, Judge Amy Berman Jackson (who is not related to the couple) sentenced former Ald. Sandi Jackson to 12 months in prison.

    The couple appeared stunned to learn both would be going to prison, with Jackson Jr. rocking in his chair in the courtroom, holding his head in his hands after the judge’s ruling. Sandi sat down, laid her head on the defense table, and sobbed after learning her fate.

    As he left the courthouse, Jackson Jr. said he still believes in the power of forgiveness.

    “I believe in the power of redemption. Today I manned up and tried to accept responsibility for the errors of my ways, and I still believe in the resurrection,” he said.

    Sandi Jackson did not speak to reporters as they left court.

    The judge said she would stagger the couple’s sentences so they are not behind bars at the same time. Initially, she said Sandi would have to go to prison first, but after seeing the couple’s stunned reaction, Judge Berman Jackson said she’d let the couple decide who should serve their prison term first.

    Defense attorneys said Jackson Jr. would go to prison first, and although the judge said she thought it made more sense to have Sandi go to prison first, she agreed to have Jackson Jr. go first instead.

    Jackson Jr. must report to prison by Nov. 1. Sandi will have 30 days to report to prison once Jackson Jr. is released.

    In practical terms, Jackson Jr. could be set free after about 25 months after he reports to prison, given credit for good behavior. Because Sandi Jackson was not sentenced to more than a year, she cannot have her sentence reduced for good behavior, so must serve the full 12 months.

    Judge Berman Jackson said she would recommend a federal prison camp in Alabama for Jackson Jr., or a federal prison hospital in North Carolina as a backup. Sandi Jackson’s attorneys asked the judge to recommend a prison camp for women in Florida. A final decision is up to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.

    Jackson Jr., 48, had pleaded guilty to misusing $750,000 in campaign funds to pay for his family’s lavish lifestyle. His wife Sandi, 49, has admitted to filing six years of false federal income tax returns, failing to report about $600,000 in income.

    The judge called it “a very sad day, a difficult day” as she handed down the couple’s sentences.

    Prosecutors had sought a sentence of at least 48 months in prison for Jesse Jackson Jr., and at least 18 months for Sandi Jackson. Defense attorneys were seeking 18 months for Jackson Jr. and probation for Sandi.

    In rejecting the Jacksons’ pleas to spare them from both having to go to prison – so that their children would not see both parents behind bars – the judge said the Jacksons had no one to blame but themselves.

    “It is not court that put your children in this position,” she said. “It’s going to be more difficult for the kids before this is over.”

    She chided the Jacksons for using campaign donations meant to support the former congressman’s re-election efforts on expensive personal items, such as vacations, electronics, and home decorations.

    “You and Sandra used campaign money to support a way of life you could not afford,” she said.

    Calling her a “key player” in her husband’s campaign – for which Sandi served as campaign manager – the judge ran down a laundry list of purchases Sandi made with campaign money – from trips to Las Vegas, to expensive furs and home appliances.

    “You personally and actively participated in the conspiracy,” Judge Berman Jackson said, adding that there was no justification for her actions.

    The judge also rejected defense arguments that Jackson Jr. should get a more lenient sentence because of his bipolar disorder, saying she could not even tell if his crimes took place at the same time he was battling mental illness.

    Admonishing Jackson Jr. for his actions, Judge Berman Jackson said, “There may be blurred lines for congressmen to follow when their lives are political, but this case did not come near those areas.”

    Jackson Jr. had pleaded with the judge to spare his wife from prison, saying “give me her time” if probation was not an option for Sandi.

    Prosecutors had sought prison time for both Jacksons, arguing parents are sentenced to prison every day.

    Jackson Jr. was spared from having to pay restitution of the misspent campaign funds, in addition to the $750,000 forfeiture he agreed to as part of his plea deal. He has until Oct. 25 to come up with a plan to pay that forfeiture.

    Sandi was ordered to pay $22,000 in restitution for her tax evasion conviction.

    Prosecutors wanted Jackson Jr. to be forced to pay both $750,000 in restitution to his campaign fund, and the $750,000 in forfeiture as part of his sentence.

    However, defense attorneys argued the couple does not have enough money to pay both forfeiture and restitution. Webb said Jackson Jr.’s only source of income since his resignation from Congress has been disability payments.

    Judge Berman Jackson sided with defense attorneys, saying she would not order restitution, since the congressman’s campaign fund was the only victim of the misuse of funds, and now is defunct.

    Jackson Jr. said he would “pay whatever obligations I owe.”

    “I hope my wife can earn enough money to keep our family moving forward. When I get back, I will take on that burden,” he said. “I don’t want the IRS harassing my family while I’m away.”

    Reading from a prepared statement at his sentencing hearing, Jackson Jr. apologized to his family and his constituents, but asked that his children – 13-year-old Jessica Donnatella Jackson, and 10-year-old Jesse Louis “Tre” Jackson III – “not suffer the consequences” for his crimes.

    “I’m very sorry for what I’ve done. My whole life was political. I just lived that. I know I let a lot of people down, even my wife, and most of all my children,” he said.

    Choking up repeatedly as he apologized for his crimes, Jackson acknowledged lying on campaign finance reports to hide his use of campaign funds to pay for furniture, jewelry, vacations, and other personal expenses.

    “I misled the American people. I misled the House of Representatives. I misled the media by filing my reports. I was wrong. And I don’t fault anyone,” he said.

    Jackson Jr. said he hoped the judge would sentence his wife to probation, and said “if probation is not available to her, give me her time.”

    Sobbing as she read her own prepared statement, Sandi Jackson also apologized to her family, friends, community and constituents.

    She said her crimes “caused disappointment in my community, and has put my family unit in peril.”

    “This case has taken enormous toll on me. My heart breaks every day with the pain it’s caused my babies,” she added. “I ask the court for mercy, for me to be provider for my babies in the difficult months ahead.”

    Sandi Jackson’s defense attorney, Dan Webb, said, if she is sent to prison, there would be “enormous harm to two young children” who would lose their mother.

    Webb called Sandi Jackson a “dedicated mother” who is devoted to her children, and said sending her to prison would have a “devastating impact” on the Jacksons’ two children.

    “The kids need Sandi’s nurturing now. To take her away to prison would be an unbearable burden,” he said.

    Prosecutor Matt Graves said the government recognizes the impact the case has had on the Jackson children, but said parents are sentenced to prison every day, and he said Sandi does not deserve probation.

    “Sandi stole. She stole a lot of money, over years,” he said.

    Graves noted Sandi spent approximately $171,000 of her husband’s campaign money on herself, to pay for spas, vacations, and appliances.

    Graves acknowledged Jackson Jr. deserved credit for cooperating with the investigation, and for agreeing to plead guilty even before charges were officially filed. He called Jackson Jr.’s cooperation “exceedingly rare.”

    However, he also argued Jackson’s struggle with bipolar disorder should not factor into sentencing, saying there was no evidence Jackson’s mental health issues caused him to break the law.

    Defense attorney Reid Weingarten disagreed.

    “The disease affects decisions. I’m not Dr.Freud, but it’s beyond dispute,” he said. “We’d rather have him in care of psychiatrists here, not in prison.”

    However, the judge said Jackson’s mental health problems would not cause him to steal $750,000 from his campaign fund for his own personal use.

    Earlier, Weingarten said the former congressman “suffered horror for those he let down” because of his mistakes.

    In seeking leniency for Jackson Jr., Weingarten called his client a “good Congressman” who deserved credit for the work he did, though the prosecution argued Jackson shouldn’t get credit for doing his job.

    Weingarten called Jackson Jr.’s crimes “aberrant behavior” for a “very special, charismatic, smart, kind” person.

    Jackson Jr. served in Congress from 1995 until he resigned last November. He took a five-month leave of absence before resigning, as he was treated for bipolar disorder.

    Sandi Jackson served as alderman of Chicago’s 7th Ward from 2007 until she resigned in January.

    They formally pleaded guilty in February, after months of talks with federal prosecutors on plea deals for the couple.