Pro-Thug Blogger: “Don’t Bother Me With Facts!”

We’re not going to say that we delight in the salty goodness that is the frustrated tears of leftist thugs because… Oh why bother? Of course we delight in them. They are delicious and nutritious. Anyway, here’s a perfect example of the Utterly Divorced From Reality™ leftist point of view in the aftermath of the Zimmerman acquittal (h/t LC Radical Redneck) and it is 100% industry grade stupid.

Which you’d pretty much expect from a blog featuring Keef Olberdouche at the top of its sidebar.

The “Stand Your Ground” legislation was sponsored by Florida state Representative Dennis Baxley and state Senator Durell Peadon, both Republican allies of Jeb Bush. The governor quickly signed the measure into law — despite explicit and repeated warnings that this law would encourage shootings of innocents like Trayvon Martin.

We should bloody well hope that it would encourage victims of violence to defend themselves against “innocents” “innocently” ground pounding them, banging their heads into concrete. Sort of the whole point. As to any actual innocents being shot? So far the count remains zero. Streets running knee deep with blood just aren’t what they’ve been creepy-assed cracked up to be, if you ask us.

My heart sank when I heard the verdict. George Zimmerman, the man who shot dead an unarmed teenager after profiling and stalking him,

So much fail in just one sentence. So very much of it. The head spins. “Unarmed”, while technically true depending on your definition of “armed”, is utterly irrelevant. His Imperial Majesty could certainly kill somebody armed with nothing but our two hands, particularly if we were a 170 lbs athletic, MMA-trained thug straddling a woefully mismatched dude we’d pinned to the ground. “Profiling?” If by “profiling” you mean “wondering what a hooded stranger is doing perambulating your troubled, crime-ridden neighborhood in the middle of the night and calling it in to 911” then we suppose you have a point. In which case we need more “profiling”, not less. Actually, under that definition “profiling” is the whole ruddy purpose of a neighborhood watch. And finally “stalking?” Seriously? Under most definitions we can find, “stalking” means “obsessively following somebody with malice aforethought.” You might want to cuddle up with a copy of Webster’s and a cuppa tea one day.

has been declared “not guilty”. This is, in my strong opinion, a miscarriage of justice.

So noted. Also noted: Your “strong opinion” doesn’t amount to squat, although you’re perfectly entitled to hold it, no matter how foolish it makes you look. Verdicts are not handed down based on “strong opinions”, at least not in any civilized nation.

Just prior to the reading of the verdict I heard there were questions regarding the manslaughter charge, so I was hopeful that at least Zimmerman would be convicted of the lesser charge.

Because, in your “strong opinion”, facts to the contrary be damned, Zimmerman was bloody well guilty of something so, again facts to the contrary be damned, he needed to be punished and sent to jail. For something, anything, jaywalking perhaps?, as long as that evil, murderous, racist bastard was sent to jail.

MSNBC was the channel I had on during time leading up to the reading of the verdict.

MSLSD? At this point we could rest our case, but we’re beginning to have fun here.

I stayed tuned following the pronouncement of “not guilty”. Below I have transcribed some of the commentary from the MSNBC coverage following the 7/13/2013 reading of the verdict; a discussion I have edited for brevity and clarity…

Chris Jansing: The Reverand Al Sharpton joins us now. Your reaction?

You mean Al Not-So-Sharpton on Tawany Brawley, “Jew” York City, Duke Lacrosse “fame?” You’re making this too easy, you know.

[Camera stays on a smiling George Zimmerman as Al Sharpton speaks. Smiling because he just got away with murder, IMO.]

Or maybe smiling because of a year and a half worth of endless nightmarish persecution is finally over?

Al Sharpton: Well, I think this is an atrocity. I think it is probably one of the worst situations that I’ve seen. What this jury has done is establish a precedent that if you are young and fit a certain profile… you can be commiting no crime, just bringing some Skittles and iced tea to your brother and be killed…

Of course, provided that your particular way of “just bringing some Skittles and iced tea to your brother” includes accosting, sucker punching and ground pounding any “creepy-ass cracker” you meet on your way. In which case you’re doing it wrong.

and someone can claim self defense.

Funny that, isn’t it “reverend” Carpton? If you defend yourself against being beaten into hamburger it’s called “self defense.” Amazing.

Having been exposed in all kinds of lies and all kinds of inconsistencies…

What lies and inconsistencies? As a matter of fact, Zimmerman’s testimony has been remarkably consistent throughout, both with itself and the actual facts found by the investigation. Not one single contradiction to be found anywhere.

We had to march to even get a trial.

Because that’s how justice works, dammit! Forget about actual grounds for one, forget about facts, forget about all of that! Just march around like a mob of lynch happy hoodlums and scream until charges are filed.

Then at trial, when he’s exposed over and over again as a liar,

[Citation needed]

he is acquitted. This is a sad day in the country. I think we clearly must move on to the next step, in terms of the federal government and in terms of the civil courts. This is a slap in the face to those who believe in justice.

“Let’s go march and howl in the streets again until we get what we want, because that’s justice!!!1!!

Joy Reid: … [the] community in Sanford is split along racial lines. White Sanford residents were by and large supporting George Zimmerman. In a lot of ways it’s a Conservative community. Supporting George Zimmerman has become something of a matter of Conservative dogma. He raised 300k, that didn’t come from no one.

If you want to keep harping on about how supporting an innocent man is somehow a “Conservative dogma”, go right ahead. We love compliments. We also suspect it’s true, having seen how the other side behaves.

There has been a sense of demoralization and depression [in Black Sanford] concerning this case from the very beginning. The notion that a young Black man’s life really isn’t worth much in America was tied up in this case. That notion that this boy just walking home was out of place just by being there, just by being dressed the way he was, his existence was almost illegal.

No. But his ground pounding a guy into mincemeat certainly IS illegal.

Such that someone acting in the guise of a police officer, but with no authority by the law… could shoot and kill a young Black man and not be arrested. Be sent home.

Everybody has the authority under the law to defend themselves against death or serious bodily harm. You leftist idiots like to blather about “civil rights.” The right to defend yourself IS a “civil right”.

I think that for a lot of African Americans in Sanford, this is going to double them down on their feelings on the Sanford police, about the system, about not mattering.

L-rd knows that you screeching assmonkeys in the OgabeMedia have done all that you can to make them feel like that with your “guilty until proven innocent” and constant lies, doctoring and omission of evidence etc.

Now back to the blogger:

My Commentary: Al Sharpton then mentions a civil suit that has been filed against George Zimmerman by the family of Trayvon Martin. I’ve heard, however, that the defense could ask the judge for “immunity which would protect him from a civil lawsuit”.

Yes, they very much can. His Majesty is not terribly familiar with Florida’s version of Stand Your Ground, but we do know that there is such a provision in the Texas version. It’s based on “if defendant is found not guilty of murder, then it really makes no fucking sense to try him for damages which a jury just said he wasn’t guilty of incurring.” Something that is also sometimes called “horse sense.”

He also mentions the possibility of bringing a civil rights violation charge. Honestly I don’t see how that could be possible, as he was found not guilty and the prosecution specifically said that George didn’t RACIALLY profile Trayvon, he CRIMINALLY profiled him.

The prosecution was, by the way, declared off their rockers and wrong, so it really doesn’t matter what they “specifically said” at this point.

I believe George racially profiled Trayvon.

And His Imperial Majesty believes that eating garlic keeps vampires away.

Of course Conservatives were pre-complaining about this possibility. I ran into one of them on Lisa’s blog. A faker calling himself George Zimmerman said “its disgraceful and scary that an innocent man can be railroaded like this with the help of our Government. It’s very obvious that Eric Holder and maybe Obama himself is pulling the strings”.

Clearly the “railroading” hasn’t worked out that well so far.

And thank G-d for that! But that’s not exactly evidence of no railroading having taken place, any more than the failure to actually murder somebody proves that there was no intent to do so or that no attempt was made. That’s why we have “conspiracy to […]” and “attempted […]” charges.

But GZ lived in a very conservative area. I heard the Rude Pundit refer to Sanford as a “Republican hellhole” on Stephanie Miller’s radio program.

Nice hellhole, if by “hellhole” you mean “a place where you have a right to defend yourself from death and/or serious bodily harm.”

So I guess 6 Conservative women let the killer of an unarmed Black youth walk? Nobody but the jurists can say for sure. Even they probably think they did the right thing. It certainly wasn’t as if they decided it quickly (which could indicate they had their minds made up).

Well thank you for at least acknowledging that you don’t know.

I certainly agree with Mr. Sharpton about this verdict setting a precedent. As far as Black people go, yes, I think armed conceal and carry license holders will feel freer to shoot when they feel “threatened”. Just claim self defense and you’ll get off, so why take the chance if a Black male “thug” is menacing you by walking in your general vicinity in a public area where he has every right to be?

Because clearly that’s all the motivation that Zimmerman had for shooting Martin. At no point did “lying pinned to the ground while I’m having my head bashed repeatedly against the concrete” enter into it.

But, in addition to that problem, what about people seeking to commit outright murder? Just shoot and claim Stand Your Ground. Dead men tell no tales, after all. Be sure to shoot your “assailant” dead and the only side of the story the police will ever hear is yours.

That and those pesky things we call “facts” and “evidence”, that is. But go ahead, try on your theory for size. On second thought don’t. For the sake of your victim.

A right to defend yourself becomes a license to kill.

In your deranged, hyperventilating fantasy world, perhaps. Meanwhile, here in the real world, facts and evidence might still come back to bite you in the arse.

That is why previously people fearing for their lives always had an obligation to retreat first.

Kinda hard to “retreat” when you’re pinned to the ground by 170 lbs of angry athletic thug pounding you into submission, isn’t it?

Conservatives are already going crazy and dancing their victory jigs. Hurray for the “right” of a gun toting vigilante to shoot dead a menacing Black male they find suspicious for daring to be somewhere the vigilante doesn’t think he should be.

Also “daring to pin some creepy-ass cracker to the ground and trying to murder him by repeatedly banging his head against the concrete”. There has to be a reason why you keep omitting that, but we can’t for the life of us imagine what it is.

I’ve gotten a few of these kind of comments on this blog already. The Left wanted to “lynch” an innocent Hispanic man, but the jury got it right, according to the “Elizabeth Says” commenter. No Elizabeth, the jury got it wrong.

According to you. They should have just done away with this whole jury of your peers thing and called you instead.

Zimmerman is at least guilty of manslaughter.

Under what laws, exactly? Please be careful and thorough in your citations, Mr. Super Legal Eagle.

And we (the Left) never advocated a “lynching”, they simply wanted our justice system to do it’s job

Which was, apparently, to convict Zimmerman no matter what the facts and evidence might suggest. Which, we don’t exactly know what that is, but “justice” it isn’t.

instead of simply accepting Zimmerman’s version of events and setting him free (which the police did the very night George shot and killed Trayvon).

You know what police can’t do in a civilized society ruled by an actual justice system? Detain people without grounds to do so, that’s what.

And why use a word (lynching) that has such ugly racial connotations attached to it? It’s because they’re telling us they don’t care that racism still exists in the world today.

Er, no. But thanks for playing. What we are doing, apart from accurately describing a lynch mob as, well, a lynch mob, is take your endless, baseless, mindless howls and screeches of “raaaaacism” and shoving them right the fuck back in your ugly faces where they belong.

That is why they take this word and use it in a way that is so very inappropriate. Demanding justice is NOT a “lynching”.

That’s what all of those real racists of yore thought too when they gathered a mob of fellow racists and went marching on the city jail to lynch them some black folk. They were just demanding “justice” which, to them as it obviously does to leftist racists of today, meant “convicting that damn bastard no matter what because it is our ‘strong opinion’ that he’s guilty.”

See some similarities there? Then look harder. They’re there, we assure you.

They’re laughing at us by using this word

You’re damn right we are. Hurts like a bitch, doesn’t it? Get used to it, because we’ve barely begun laughing yet.

and now they are rubbing our noses in it.

Ayup. Like the smell?

That is their mindset. And it will prove to be very dangerous going forward. Some with this mindset will surely feel much freer to shoot and kill dangerous Black “thugs” in “self defense”.

In the absence of evidence of actual “self defense”, they’ll then find themselves up shit creek without a paddle as they’re cuffed and thrown in the slammer, and well-deservedly so.

Really. If you want a martyr, you’d do well to pick somebody who wasn’t pinning a guy to the ground while trying to murder him.




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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Zimmerman lawyer to move ‘asap’ against NBC News

    Last night’s not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman trial will enable the neighborhood-watch volunteer to resume his case against NBC News for the mis-editing of his widely distributed call to police. Back in December, Zimmerman sued NBC Universal Media for defamation over the botched editing, which depicted him as a hardened racial profiler.
    George Zimmerman

    Here’s how NBC News, in a March 27, 2012, broadcast of the “Today” show, abridged the tape of Zimmerman’s comments to a police dispatcher on the evening of Feb. 26, 2012:

    Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

    The full tape went like this:

    Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about. Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
    Zimmerman: He looks black.

    NBC Universal Media responded to the Zimmerman complaint by noting that other media outlets played up the racial angle of Zimmerman’s deadly encounter with Trayvon Martin.

    The company also noted the pivotal nature of the second-degree murder case: “[I]f Zimmerman is convicted, that fact alone will constitute substantial evidence that the destruction of his reputation is the result of his own criminal conduct, and not of the broadcasts at issue which, like countless other news reports disseminated by media entities throughout the country, reported on the underlying events.”

    That formulation is now null.

    According to Zimmerman attorney James Beasley, the case against NBC News was stayed pending the outcome of the criminal case. Now that’s out of the way, and Beasley is ready to proceed. “We’re going to start in earnest asap, we just have to get the stay lifted which is a ministerial act,” says Beasley, a Philadelphia lawyer, via e-mail.

    When asked how the not-guilty verdict affects the civil case against NBC News, Beasley responded, “This verdict of not guilty is just that, and shows that at least this jury didn’t believe that George was a racist, profiling, or anything that the press accused George of being. That probably doesn’t get you that much but it’s simply time for us to start the case and hold accountable anyone who was irresponsible in their journalism.”

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    The War on America

    Sunday, July 14, 2013
    Obama: Let’s Honor the “No Limit Nigga”
    “No Limit Nigga”

    Obama suggests we honor the “no limit nigga” by disarming potential victims of black violence. And let’s be honest about this; had a white man been killed while attacking a black person there would have been no statement at all from the Impostor in Chief. In fact Obama has said nothing about the explosion of black violence against white people. The fact is, he is promoting it.

    I mean, why honor this guy at all? He’s a thug that has been victimizing people his entire short life. Why honor him? Because he’s black. There is no other reason that Obama would suggest he be honored at all. Yeah, if Obama had a son, he’d look like the “no limit nigga.”

    The current illegitimate regime in D.C. is in fact conducting an all out War On America, and that means, at this step in that war, a War Against White People and Obama wants to make sure you are disarmed while he conducts that war.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    America’s First Dictator, Traitor and War Criminal
    U.S. Constitution – Article 3 Section 3
    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
    Eventually, Americans will realize that we haven’t had a representative government since 1860, when big business got Lincoln into office and then declared war on the States. Free market capitalism died at the same time, we just didn’t realize it until 1913 when the Bankster cartel formally took over the Federal monopoly on power and money. We’ve had a fascist dictatorship since then and your vote has meant exactly squat. The only way to return to a Jeffersonian Representative Republic is the way our Founders did it in 1775.

    Eventually, when Americans find that every person in the world is entitled to a job in the USA, except for them – all in the name of diversity. When they find themselves a dirt poor minority in the country their fathers founded. When they find out that diversity is not THEIR strength, but the strength of their enemies.

    Eventually, but not today. Today many Americans will go to work at their corporate jobs chanting the mantra, “Diversity is our strength;” until is isn’t.

    And it’s too late.

    Warrior Class
    In 1994 the Pentagon’s deputy chief of staff for intelligence, a Major Ralph Peters, wrote a position paper, Warrior Class:

    The desire for patriotism is considered an enemy doctrine. The U.S. armed forces must be prepared to fight against all those who oppose the New World Order and who are holding out for nationalism… This new warrior class is most dangerous because they consist of those who fight out of strong religious beliefs… There is a worldwide class of patriots (i.e., “terrorists”) who number in the millions, and if the current trend continues, there may be more of these who…love freedom and are the target of the New World Order… You cannot bargain and compromise with these warriors… We, as the military, need to commit more training to counter these warrior threats. We must have an active campaign to win over the populace. This must be coupled with irresistible violence.
    – from the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, May/June 1994

    There you have it. Patriotic American Gunowners are the number one Enemy of the New World Order. Since we can’t be bargained or compromised with, prepare for “irresistible violence.”

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator:

    Free market capitalism died at the same time, we just didn’t realize it until 1913

    Some of us are actually old enough to remember that ?

    In 1994 the Pentagon’s deputy chief of staff for intelligence, a Major Ralph Peters, wrote…

    Isn’t he a Fox News contributor (& a colonel)?

    “The U.S. armed forces must be prepared to fight against all those who oppose the New World Order…”

    If this is a legitimate quote, I wonder at the context Seem to be a lot of ellipses.

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    0007 growls and barks:

    I personally “honored” Trayvon and his facilitator(s) by purchasing a couple more boxes of 9mm Speer 124gr Gold Dot HP, heh, heh, heh.

    Almost forgot, my stock response to idiots like that is to ask them to allow me to sit on their chest and start pounding them in the face. All they have to do to get me to stop is say, “Bang!”.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:


    776.032?Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.

    (1)?A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

    (2)?A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

    (3)?The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    George Zimmerman, the man who shot dead an unarmed teenager after profiling and stalking him,

    Presumably, the writer was using “stalk” in it’s older meaning – hunting, as in “stalking your prey”.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Al Sharpton: Well, I think this is an atrocity. I think it is probably one of the worst situations that I’ve seen. What this jury has done is establish a precedent that if you are young and fit a certain profile… you can be commiting no crime, just bringing some Skittles and iced tea to your brother and be killed…

    As a nation, we should be rejoicing: Sharpton has finally learned the terms “Skittles” and “iced tea” (as opposed to his more-favored “Skillets and I-T”)

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    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    I swear that I never watch TV trials, but my Manager was into it and got me hooked.

    I was stunned at how convoluted our justice system has become. I’m naive, I guess. I thought the laws were written down somewhere. I didn’t know that withholding evidence was allowed, or refiling for reduced charges at the last second was kosher, being your losing.

    Outside of Trayvon’s family and paid witnesses, everyone on the stand for the prosecution was really a hostile witness. The D.A. wanted the cops to contradict their assessment of what happened, and tried to get forensics to throw out decades of study.

    Right now, I fear for the jurors and for George. Though guilty of nothing, their lives will be in danger for years to come. The names and how to find them will be leaked out shortly.

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    readerjp growls and barks:

    A few hours ago I heard a crowd shouting and horns blasting right outside my window, on Second Avenue. I think they were shouting “Justice for Travyon” walking between cars and stopping traffic. Another big rally in Times Square; the police arrested several people. I’m glad they did. It shouldn’t get out of hand here. The police are pretty good here. Not like Oakland. Are we going to see riots in LA after the Rodney King verdict?

    In Times Square, I saw a guy with dreadlocks with a megaphone. He looked like a professional agitator. Obama’s minions will be busing them in, just like when the unions were threatened.

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    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    As of 11:40 PM I am proud to say that not much is happening here in LaLaLand (L.A.). The cops are on Modified Tactical Alert. Matter of fact, just now I heard a cop on a scanner say his job was done and was heading home.

    Seems like any Sunday in Los Angeles and I really expected the worst to happen. Glad I was wrong.

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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    Your Majesty,

    With deep reverence for your abilities to wield the English language like a broad sword in a science fiction fantasy novel…

    This fisking is a work of art.


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    LC Old Dog growls and barks:

    After reading this massive “cluebatting” there was little I could do save for linking over here from my place and checking on shipping info on my .41 Mag ammo! :em03:

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Oakland: Police Stood Down As ‘Protesters’ Terrorized Drivers

    Cops allowed Trayvon demonstrators to seize control of major street for three hours

    Paul Joseph Watson

    July 15, 2013

    One of the questions to emerge out of last night’s unrest in Oakland, where crowds protesting the George Zimmerman verdict turned violent and seized control of a major street for three hours, is why police withdrew from the area and allowed drivers to be terrorized.

    According to a report by ABC 7, protesters had “complete control” of 14th and Broadway near Oakland City Hall and refused to let vehicles pass.

    At about 8:30 p.m., police opened the intersection to traffic. But it quickly deteriorated when demonstrators surrounded frightened drivers who found themselves trapped. The crowd forced them to turn around.

    Oakland police officers that had been near the corner retreated, leaving the helpless drivers without police protection. It’s unclear who gave that command.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    To you Reveround Sharpton, and to your Racist Constituency, dear little peasants that you are, this, is a promise of Newton’s 3rd Law of Motion: “For every action there is a corresponding and equal opposite reaction”. Otherwise known as The Law of Neutraility.
    But, ‘laws’ are not the stuff that animals function by ‘consciously’; they do ‘unconsciously’ – of course, as do all living organisms – but, they don’t know it, cognitively; they simply ‘feel it’, when their actions and attitudes ‘return to them’ in a neat little package of pain, misery, and death’, in an envelope marked: “No thanks. Return this to Sender”.

    Of course, they are too ignorant to recognize themselves as The Sender – resulting in their ignorant assumption that someone – society – has assaulted them. They never recognize themselves in the ‘pack-cage’.
    Actually, Newton’s 3rd law of motion, should be renamed: “For every American Black, there are 15 American Non-Blacks who recognize a Racist-Wanna-be-Killer- named Trayvon Martin’ – when he sees him, and, simply defends himself as required”.

    This is called “Cosmic Profiling”

    Live with it.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    The press just won´t stop lying about George Zimmerman. If I hear one more word about his “poor judgment” on that pitch-black rainy night, I´m gonna´ scream. Even the National Review´s editors are in on it.

    What exactly did George Zimmerman do that showed poor judgment? He called the police and reported suspicious activity.That was his JOB as a Neighborhood Watch. There is no evidence that he followed Trayvon Martin after “the police” (actually a police dispatcher who is not a sworn officer) told him that he didn´t need to follow Mr. Martin. In fact, the dispatcher kept asking GZ what Mr. Martin was up to!

    Trayvon Martin punked the wrong “creepy-ass cracker” and got himself shot to death that night. The press has been shameless in making this seemingly decent man the Most Hated Man in America, just to pump up the sagging ratings that they so richly deserve.

    I hope GZ successfully sues the State of Florida, Barack Obama, MSNBC, the NAACP, and Al Sharpton for $628 million for harassment, slander, malicious prosecution, threats of bodily harm, and a lot more. Justice for George Zimmerman!

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    readerjp growls and barks:

    …Trayvon Martin’s drug use, explaining how the Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail drink he carried that night are ingredients that, when mixed with dextromethorphan (DXM) cough syrup, create “Lean”, a concocted high which can cause psychosis and aggression over the longer term. According to the autopsy report, Martin’s liver showed damage consistent with DXM abuse.


    tweeters had a field day adding gallows humor and comparing the resemblance of presiding Judge Debra Nelson to the late actor Chris Farley. Take a look.

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    bruce growls and barks:

    old dog you should start reloading your own ammo.this trial show cased the corruption with in our criminal justice system when left wing lawyers try to rail road an innocent man into prison to satisfy a howling mob of knee grows.corey and nelson should be disbarred and put on trial for malicious prosecution.a knee grow murdered a white man on a buss in jacksonville do you think the or the will have any thing to say about that?

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    LC Old Dog growls and barks:

    bruce @ #:
    Uh, the .41 Mag is the only thing I don’t have enough brass for! I have been reloading since 1984! :em05:

    PS: The order is in the Hands of UPS! :em01:

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Hate it’s come to this but Tam over at VFTP nails it:

    And the media has delivered the lesson…

    Stay in the car, America.

    Forget your neighbors’ barbecue grills getting overturned and bicycles getting stolen. Don’t worry about the graffiti getting sprayed on the neighborhood walls. Ignore the cries of that woman getting stabbed on the apartment steps.

    Pull the blinds. You think you’re a cop or something?

    Don’t get involved. The potential social and legal costs are too high.

    Stay in the car, America.

    Me? You’d better cool believe I’m staying my ass in the car. The media has taught me well that I am not my brother’s keeper. We hire people to do that these days.

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    No more dismal example of the miserable state of mind of a liberal can ooze like this perpetual troll Lester Liberalman over at Jenn’s. Trolls hers and about 30 other blogs all day every day. Has at least 30 posts on these 2 threads each more stupid and nasty than the last. :em04:

    His only purpose in life is to be a punching bag. He’s tenacious AND ALWAYS COMES BACK FOR MORE. Think if Um Yeah drank nothing but battery acid and vinegar for 30 years.

    Go and see. 2 threads on Zimmerman have this cretin showing his ass in a giant spotlight. Has to be seen to be believed. Show him your love and respect

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #:

    The lesson is stay in the car?

    I thought the lesson was: if you’re going to shoot someone, have a friend witness it. The only reason the media/prosecution were able to whip up a charge was because no one saw the initial confrontation. If George had been with a buddy who said that Trayvon had attacked him, the media might still have called him a racist murderer, but the prosecution would likely have been stymied from the get-go.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Radical Redneck @21
    Not going there, I’ve lost enough brain cells today. :em06: :em06:

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    Radical Redneck says:

    No more dismal example of the miserable state of mind of a liberal can ooze like this perpetual troll Lester Liberalman over at Jenn’s. Trolls hers and about 30 other blogs all day every day. Has at least 30 posts on these 2 threads each

    God, that crap he/she/it spews over there is hard to read, I can just feel the brain cells dying while reading it. Been pouring through/bypassing equally stupid biased racist IGNORANT shit like this all day on the net……I think I’ve just about had enough of this, have just had my fill of the utter ignorance and prejudice shown by pretty much everyone on the left. I hit the bar this evening when some jackass on CNN called that illiterate ghetto speak used by that sow Jeantel on the witness stand a “language”…..

    God help us all

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    VonZorch Imperial Researcher @ #:

    Not going there, I’ve lost enough brain cells today

    The smackdowns it inspires are quite satisfying though. :mrgreen:

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    Rain growls and barks:

    The worst part was the willful ignorance. You can’t even cluebat him because he refuses to see anything but what he wants to see. It hurt trying to read that, but the smackdowns were awesome.

  27. 27
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    I’m currently hearing that in Oakland they’re shooting beanbags at “protesters” who are looting, of all places, a fucking Wal-Mart.

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    Rain @ #:

    This has been going on over there for over 8 years. 😯 Every. Single. Day. As well as on countless other blogs.

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Radical Redneck @ #28:

    You’ve probably seen this, but I’ll repost it here anyway (in memory of our old friend “Poppie” from PME):

    Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

    Preface: This handy set of rules covers most of the games which disinformation artists play on the Internet (and offline). When you know the tricks, you’ll be able to spot the games. Even if you’ve read this list before, you might be surprised at how useful it is to brush up on these tricks.

    Update: This was originally apparently written by H. Michael Sweeney.

    1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

    2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

    3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such “arguable rumors”. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a “wild rumor” which can have no basis in fact.

    4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

    6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.

    7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

    8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

    9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

    10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues — so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

    11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the “high road” and “confess” with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made — but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, “just isn’t so.” Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for “coming clean” and “owning up” to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

    12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

    13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

    14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.

    15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

    16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.

    17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

    18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

    19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

    20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

    21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

    22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

    23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

    24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by proper intimidation with blackmail or other threats.

    25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.

    Over the years, I’ve noticed that trolls get very twitchy once they realize you can see right through their bullshit “by the numbers” (e.g., “That’s a pretty weak and transparent try. Did you even read #18 of the Rules of Disinformation? Look, kid, if you want to piss someone off by emotionalizing the debate, you’ve got to bait them with some better insults. You obviously don’t understand this trolling thing very well. Come back later with some new material, ok?”)

    Patronize the hell out of them, keep offering “constructive criticism” on their trolling style and never touch the substance of their posts and you’ll drive them completely batshit. Play it right and there is literally nothing they can do to counter it.

    (For added hilarity, find someone else who knows about the Rules and get into a spirited debate over which of the ploys the troll is using and how he can best improve his technique.)

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    A further reading:

    8 Traits of the Disinformationalist

    by H. Michael Sweeney

    1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

    2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

    3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.

    4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

    5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for ‘conspiracy theorists’ and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

    6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of ‘artificial’ emotionalism and an unusually thick skin — an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the ‘image’ and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It’s just a job, and they often seem unable to ‘act their role in character’ as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later — an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game — where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

    7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat ‘freudian’, so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within.

    I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I’m not aware of too many Navy pilots who don’t have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

    8) BONUS TRAIT: Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation:

    1) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT – FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth.

    2) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR – there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to ‘get permission’ or instruction from a formal chain of command.

    3) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay – the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.

    I close with the first paragraph of the introduction to my unpublished book, Fatal Rebirth:

    Truth cannot live on a diet of secrets, withering within entangled lies. Freedom cannot live on a diet of lies, surrendering to the veil of oppression. The human spirit cannot live on a diet of oppression, becoming subservient in the end to the will of evil. God, as truth incarnate, will not long let stand a world devoted to such evil. Therefore, let us have the truth and freedom our spirits require… or let us die seeking these things, for without them, we shall surely and justly perish in an evil world.

    This is a bit dated, since newsgroups have been largely replaced by blogs, but the principles are the same. I’d lay even odds that Lester Libtard (or whatever his screen name is) is probably employed by Media Matters or some other “progressive” shill group. “He” may not even be a single person, which would explain his daily appearance on several blogs. There are also likely to be a dozen sockpuppets associated with him, including some who appear to be on the right. (They’re often the ones who go over the line on making inflammatory comments.)

    The guy’s almost certainly on the payroll, somewhere.

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Couldn’t help myself. Just went over and peed in Lester’s corn flakes:

    Let’s see what he does with it.

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    LCSgtmech growls and barks:

    Nice fisking, any reasonable person would tuck and run from such shining truth. Therein lies the problem. Misha, you, and many others have been ripping these guys to shreds with a keyboard for years, and it hasn’t slowed the charge one damn bit. These people are zealots, fanatics, and reason, law, logic, morality and justice mean nothing to them. The truth could punch their teeth out and they’d deny it, because it simply doesn’t fit into their view. Zealots and fanatics only respond to one stimulus, force. Now don’t get me wrong, I would never advocate initiating violence. They’re actions pretty much assure it will be an inevitability a very short ways down the road. And I’m not a violent man, nor do I have a history of such. Spent 14 years in the Infantry, never fired a shot in anger or war. He’ll, I didn’t even see combat until I joined the fucking Chair Force. But make no mistake, I will NOT let my country be defiled or taken from me by anyone without a fight. We all just have to admit our words will change nothing, and prepare for the inevitable conflict. We WILL win, the only question is which of us will be around to see that great and glorious day. Luck and long life to you all, my Brothers and Sisters.

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    LC Draco growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole says:

    Hate it’s come to this but Tam over at VFTP nails it:

    And the media has delivered the lesson…

    Stay in the car, America.

    Forget your neighbors’ barbecue grills getting overturned and bicycles getting stolen. Don’t worry about the graffiti getting sprayed on the neighborhood walls. Ignore the cries of that woman getting stabbed on the apartment steps.

    Pull the blinds. You think you’re a cop or something?

    Don’t get involved. The potential social and legal costs are too high.

    Stay in the car, America.

    Me? You’d better cool believe I’m staying my ass in the car. The media has taught me well that I am not my brother’s keeper. We hire people to do that these days.

    Sorry, I have too many combat experiences (more than most LEO) to ‘stay in the car’.

    That’s why we in the ‘business’ have a saying…there is a BIG difference between ‘situational awareness’ and ‘situational understanding’. Staying in a static position only allows for the first one, maybe.


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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain says:

    Your Majesty,

    With deep reverence for your abilities to wield the English language like a broad sword in a science fiction fantasy novel…

    This fisking is a work of art.


    Seconded! :em01:

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    LC Draco @ #:

    Tamera wasn’t referring to sheepdogs but to the sheeple. Is a single white mother with a couple kids sees two “black” men run from a house in bloody clothes and jump into a car, is she going to note the plate and report it? If a retired white homeowner hears what he thinks are female screams from his Muslim neighbors house is he going to call or just roll over and pull the covers up? If a white suburbanite sees a woman being followed by a “suspicious Hispanic” person are they going to slow down until the lady is in her car? If a group of white kids see a gang of outlaw bikers beating the shit out of somebody are they going to call 911?

    She’s right. The media sent a message. Profile and you will be crucified. It’s not open season on black children…it’s media open season on white conservatives (and a few liberals to chum the waters).

  36. 36

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ # 35: Perfectly said. This entire game was played for the purpose of causing hesitation in “Stand Your Ground” situations, and/or to destroy the CCW laws.

  37. 37

    A far better link to mine for the bottom of the “comment luv” in commenting on this post would have been this one:

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #:

    The media sent a message. Profile and you will be crucified. It’s not open season on black children…it’s media open season on white conservatives (and a few liberals to chum the waters).

    Unfortunately, it isn’t just the media – it’s the elite/political class, and it’s bipartisan: the GOP bears no little responsibility for this mess, too. Governor Rick Scott, AG Pam Bondi, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey are all Republicans (not that the result would have been any different had any/all of the three been Dems; however, to be fair, Republican Norm Wolfinger initially declined to prosecute.)

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    hey, there’s an opportunity here.

    The GOP has been clamoring about outreach to the HIspanic community haven’t they? There’s a golden opportunity here if they have the balls to go for it. I mean, look who’s out to lynch a hispanic man, the democRats….the civil rights and race hustlers…..liberals everywhere……all the groups who purport to be for minorities everywhere. Sure doesn’t look like they have the hispanic populations best interests at heart to me.

    What a campaign and outreach message that would be, and broadcast the spots in Spanish asking hispanics “are you sure you trust a political party and politicians who don’t want to see justice done for a hispanic man but would rather sacrifice him to the whims of political correctness and prejudice… you really want to throw in with the democrats? they don’t stand for you….”

    ever the optimist that I am, I see a silver lining here…..I hope the GOP has an optimist or two working for them.

  40. 40
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician

    This entire game was played for the purpose of causing hesitation in “Stand Your Ground” situations, and/or to destroy the CCW laws.

    Just heard last night (on O’Reilly?) that SYG has nothing to do with this case.

  41. 41
    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

    Don’t hold your breath ol’buddy

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    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole says:

    Don’t hold your breath ol’buddy

    I’m not Brudda, like I said…..they gotta have the balls to grab the brass ring and I think most of them are too testicularly challenged to do that….

    too bad too, what a golden opportunity

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

    “The GOP has been clamoring about outreach to the HIspanic community haven’t they? There’s a golden opportunity here if they have the balls to go for it. I mean, look who’s out to lynch a hispanic man, the democRats….the civil rights and race hustlers…..liberals everywhere……all the groups who purport to be for minorities everywhere. Sure doesn’t look like they have the hispanic populations best interests at heart to me.”

    Except it was GOP Pols who authorized the Volksgericht trial.

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    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Except it was GOP Pols who authorized the Volksgericht trial.

    no need to cross out the word Volksgericht, that’s exactly what it was. the Judge, the procecutor and district atty are all democRats…..and the ones that are now clamoring for his lynching are the ones that claim to represent oppressed minorities everywhere. Would that ANYONE in the GOP would go public with this hypocrisy…..

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    alecj growls and barks:

    Great Post.

    I just get so tired of liberals sitting in a circle saying blatantly incorrect and plain old, stupid things. The encourage each other to be illogical and base their highly uninformed opinions on nothing but 8th grade emotion. Your taking apart of a left wing ninny, line by line, makes it all the more clear…..we are watching a temper tantrum that is being stoked by our own federal government, built on lies, misinformation, and race pimp opportunism.

    If justice becomes “mob rule” in America, we can thank left wing radicals everywhere for their tireless work turning our once great country into a third world banana republic.

    No wonder they want our guns. Its all we have left to protect ourselves when the law means nothing and justice is whatever a screaming crowd demands…

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd @ #:

    Hey Moriarty good to see you there. This fool has to be seen to be believed. You gave some very substantive and funny smackdowns. :em01:

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    Eric Praline growls and barks:

    alecj says:

    we are watching a temper tantrum that is being stoked by our own federal feral government


  49. 49
    Library Czar growls and barks:

    I can’t access what you posted at Jens. Can you repost it here?

  50. 50
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Library Czar @ #49:

    Not being able to contact Jenn right now, I’m a little reluctant since it’s her site. But I hope she won’t mind an excerpt from the thread…

    We begin with a reply to “Lester,” who purports to know certain damning “facts” about Zimmerman.

    I dealt with this in another thread, but since you fled the field there, I’ll bring it up here.

    Here are a few other “facts we have”:

    TM showed an active interest on Facebook in acquiring and abusing dextromethorphan (DXM).

    TM’s autopsy report details findings consistent with nascent fatty liver, an odd ailment for a nonobese, otherwise healthy 17-year-old male.

    DXM clears extensively by hepatic metabolism. There is reason to believe that chronic abuse may result in hepatic congestion and fatty liver.

    DXM abuse is linked to paranoia, psychosis and violent behavior. Behavioral pathology may persist for months, even after withdrawal.

    A typical postmortem tox screen does not evaluate for DXM.

    Now I know neither facts nor causal inference nor native intelligence are your strong suits, so I’ll use simple words and keep this short: This doesn’t look good for your position.

    Lester responded:

    Everything you wrote is conjecture or outright lies and nevertheless does not justify his shooting, you flaming asswipe.

    I replied:

    Sadly, no.

    And you know it and so does everyone else who takes two minutes check my facts.

    Interesting that you began with an unqualifed “everything”, then had to concede to a “nevertheless” followed by an unsupported conclusion and a cute little ad hom tag.

    No one is buying it, Les. Not even you.

    And he came back with:

    I means regardless of what pea brains like you believe about his alleged drug use from questionable sources, it has NOTHING to do with this incident.

    But on the other had the facts remain….

    George Zimmerman CREATED this entire situation. Zimmerman, had a long legal history of documented violence, of assaulting ex girlfriends, beating up female party goers, assaulting police officers, allegedly sexually abusing a female relative for decades, he who was the subject of an EMERGENCY HOA meeting where the residents complained of his aggressive, over the top tactics (A meeting attended by the Sanford Chief of Police), the George Zimmerman who was taking prescription medication known to have side effects of heightened aggression, hallucination, and violence, THAT George Zimmerman was the aggressor at EVERY level in this situation, yet… the moment of physical contact and physical altercation, Zimmerman wants us to believe that at THAT moment, despite the clear aggression displayed up to that point, that Zimmerman was a passive, non aggressive victim. It doesn’t wash.

    I replied:

    First off, if you think I give two runny shits what you or anyone else “believes” you’re quite mistaken. Facts are not beliefs, which is apparently something they glossed over in your fifth grade English class. Note: He had discussed his “beliefs” and I responded before he edited that part out.

    Are there any police reports, meeting minutes or other documentation supporting your assertions? Where are they? Were they introduced into evidence? If not, why not?

    Does this allegedly hallucinogenic prescription drug have a name? Was Zimmerman taking it at the time of the altercation? Is there a drug screen report from the ER that evidences this? Is there a deposition from the prescribing physician? If not, why not?

    You assert that GZ was “the aggressor at EVERY level in this situation” and this pile of bullshit conjecture is the best you can do to support that claim?

    I don’t know George Zimmerman. He might have murdered Trayvon Martin in cold blood and gotten away with it.

    More likely, he accidentally read one of your half-assed idiotic screeds, tried to blow his brains out and killed Martin by accident.

    (Bows bashfully and exits stage right.)

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    More likely, he accidentally read one of your half-assed idiotic screeds, tried to blow his brains out and killed Martin by accident.

    LC Moriarty, Imperial

    Goatherd @ #: 50

    Ouch damn it!! …My ribs hurt and I ….Can’t.Stop.Laughing. :em05:

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    Wraith growls and barks:

    Martin’s death wasn’t murder. It wasn’t manslaughter. It wasn’t even self-defense.

    It was suicide.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Wraith @ #:

    Martin’s death wasn’t murder. It wasn’t manslaughter. It wasn’t even self-defense. It was suicide.

    Suicide by creepy-ass cracker (or has it now been determined to be creepy ass-cracker?) The purely civilian version of suicide by cop.

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    Mark12A growls and barks:

    Had the verdict gone the other way, one wonders if roving gangs of whites would be randomly beating down negros or breaking windows in stores to “redistribute wealth”.

    Oh, shit. Of course not.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    A copy of the autopsy report is making its way around the ‘net. Something interesting in it: while we were all told that GZ was on his way back to his car and was jumped by TM, that’s not what the report says. It says that the resident (GZ) confronted the male (TM) and a fight broke out. We don’t know for sure who threw the first punch…but probably Martin broke Z’s nose and got him on the ground.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Mark12A says:

    Had the verdict gone the other way, one wonders if roving gangs of whites would be randomly beating down negros or breaking windows in stores to “redistribute wealth”.

    Of course not. Refer to OJ Simpson “Trial” for proof

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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    It says that the resident (GZ) confronted the male (TM) and a fight broke out.

    Okay, maybe I’m watching too much NCIS (or not enough CSI, who knows?), but…why would that particular blurb even be in an autopsy report? Shouldn’t it be contained in a police narrative instead?

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    It only gets better! He’s added this gem:

    People keep speaking about George “getting his head smashed into a concrete slab” but I’m not convinced that is what happened AT ALL. Only George’s side of the story was told and I don’t believe him. It never happened. the injury to his nose been the result of kickback from the gun (which means Trayvon never punched him).

    Despite being 100% certifiably insane, I actually like this guy. Unlike ever other rabid leftist he allows (very) critical responses on his blog and there’s very little froth, venom and spitefulness from him. Which, as we all know, is the leftist’s raison d’etre

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    LC Draco growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #:

    /nod….gotcha !!

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Radical Redneck @ #:

    Oh yeah, they are crazy over at that place. Left em some brain bombs….