Cradle of Liberty -> Grave of Liberty

Yeah, that would be “Boston Strong” and surrounding Gaus, henceforth to be known as Nürnberg an der Charles (h/t LC Roguetek, found at the most level-headed, calm gun blogger His Imperial Majesty knows, Tam of View From the Porch).

Long story short, but DO go read the post and, in particular, the comments, guy makes sick joke about “one down, 534 to go” after the Tucson shooting, Masshole SS show up to relieve him of his 2nd Amendment right for having a dark sense of humor, two years later said blogger gets his FID back (something you have to have in order to even own an Evil Gun in the “free” state of Taxachusetts and goes on to apply for his License to Carry.

At which point the Arlington Mickey Mouse Mall Ninjas show up at his doorstep, gains entrance without a warrant and proceeds to steal his fiancee’s firearms (he still didn’t have any for them to steal and yes, it IS theft).

For having the nerve to apply for an LTC.

On the Fourth of July.

Irony is well and truly dead. As dead as freedom is in certain areas of this once free nation.

Thatisall. His Majesty needs to go let the steam off somehow…

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His Majesty needs to go let the steam off somehow…

I find recoil therapy very relaxing.

LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole
LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole

And then we have these two little tidbits of what happens when you buy bottled water in Virginia. From Drudge:

911 Audio: Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control Surrounds 20-Year-Old for Buying Bottled Water

Hinkle: Commit any felonies lately?

Plus this little Facebook page: Police State USA: Land of the Checkpoints

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

And in New Hampshire, residency and $10 gets you a CCW.
:em01:
I don’t have one…yet. I’ve been looking at applying, but first, some personal study of the laws, my responsibilities and loads of practice.
:em03:
And a nasty email asking where the IWB holster I ordered two months ago is.
:em08:

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

All will be well if TJIC, the guy in question, just listened to some Lee Greenwood. He really should be proud to be an American, where at least he knows he’s free.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

angrywebmaster @ #: And in New Hampshire, residency and $10 gets you a CCW. I don’t have one…yet. I’ve been looking at applying, You’re applying for a permit to exercise a right? (Not singling you out – just odd that people are so willing to allow a right to be converted to a license.) A well regulated Militia, being necessary… Read more »

LibraryGryffon
LibraryGryffon

Fa Cube Itches @ #: Don’t go giving them ideas! I do wonder what would happen if several millions of us descended on DC, all peaceful like, but determined to point out to that fever swamp that, contrary to what they seem to believe, the power they have is simply allowed to them for a finite amount of time by… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

Fa Cube Itches @ #: You’re applying for a permit to exercise a right? (Not singling you out – just odd that people are so willing to allow a right to be converted to a license.) New Hampshire is also Open carry, no permit required, We recently turned back an attempt by the Communist Demonrats that run the senate from… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

I almost forgot to mention our friendly neighborhood Jihadi’s in Boston. when they couldn’t find them I got really concerned that they might be heading up here.
:em06:

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

I want to see something. I want to see one of you bastards who routinely defends the cops when they do bad shit, justify this. No, seriously. You fuckers keep arguing that ‘it’s a tiny minority’. “we risk our lives for you’… and other flat out fucking lies. This is a quote from the poor bastard caught in the grinder…… Read more »

LC Roguetek @ #:9

THIS list is just beginning – http://battlefieldusa.wordpress.com/the-rule-of-law/
I have no doubt it will be just as extensive if not more than this one which I use frequently and am still appalled every time I look at it –
http://battlefieldusa.wordpress.com/good-morning-amerika/

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

LC Roguetek says: I want to see one of you bastards who routinely defends the cops when they do bad shit, justify this. No, seriously. You fuckers keep arguing that ‘it’s a tiny minority’. “we risk our lives for you’… and other flat out fucking lies. OK, this ” bastard” will take a shot at it. How many incidents are… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #: How many incidents are documented? How many cops are there in this country? There have always been bad cops, in ANY decade…..there are bad eggs in any department. Does that mean that we make all of them enemies? I just celebrated the fourth at a friends house who is a bigshot in… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

oh, and while I’m thinking about it.

I apologize for the excessively abrasive tone of my original post. I could have been a bit more polite, and probably should have.

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

Response: “I’m sorry you feel that way. Have a good Fourth.”

Suggested reply: “You just ruined it, you mµ+#€®ƒµ¢%|n’ ß@$+@®?!” I’d go for stronger action, but my own peculiar situation gives me no grounds to advise anyone.

Guess we don’t need Boston.

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

LC Roguetek says: The number of times in recorded human history when a civilization’s guardians (soldiers, or police, I’m using a broad brush, -in your favor- so don’t complain) have stood up and defended said civilization from falling to evil ( socialism, other ‘ism’ or just an old fashioned dictatorship) are few and far between. They are, however, at least… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #: the examples of history really don’t apply to a country like ours. To say that police or soldiers don’t stand up and defend said civilization is just false. You judge the cops and, in this case, our military by the 1 in 50-20-10 levels of examples……stating that too few examples exist to… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

It’s kind of funny that police abuses are often celebrated, rather than reviled. Consider the Gunfight at the OK Corral: the Earps and Holliday were attempting to arrest a group of individuals for violating a town ordinance that directly contradicted the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. When the potential arrestees objected, the LEOs blasted them. Clearly, the Clantons… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

LC Roguetek says: I lumped in soldiers with cops, because in a number of the cases -in favor- of ‘people who enforce the law’, no actual police were involved. I only brought soldiers into it, to bend the numbers -in your favor-. Without adding soldiers into the mix, the number of times police officers have refused to obey the government,… Read more »

I’m with you Roguetek. They always side with the State and there ain’t no denying that. WTSHTF whose side will the leos be on? I think the answer is obvious. That being said there will be leos on our side as well so the emperor’s point is well taken. I just think the majority of them will be unfriendly.

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

kmhendu says: I’m with you Roguetek. They always side with the State and there ain’t no denying that. WTSHTF whose side will the leos be on? I think the answer is obvious. That being said there will be leos on our side as well so the emperor’s point is well taken. I just think the majority of them will be… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

In all honesty, in my -entire life-, all 42 years of it, I’ve never had a situation get -better- because the police got involved.

usual results range from ‘no change’ at best, to ‘somewhat worse’ on average, with the occasional ‘amazingly fucking bad’ thrown in.

but never, -ever- better.

ever.

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

I also note, Jaybear, that you’ve not responded to my answers.

you asked me what I thought should be done. I told you. you didn’t engage that answer. I wonder why that is?

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

Emperor Misha I @ #: I certainly respect your point of view, Sire. I do however, humbly ask that you contemplate my “good cop litmus test’ Good Cop Litmus Test. 1. Have you ever knowingly enforced an unconstitutional law? 2. Have you ever abused the lawful authority invested in you by the public you swore to serve? It is my… Read more »

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

[Sorry, Jay, Akismet threw a fit and I was too slow on the trigger to release your post. — Misha] LC Roguetek says: In all honesty, in my -entire life-, all 42 years of it, I’ve never had a situation get -better- because the police got involved. usual results range from ‘no change’ at best, to ‘somewhat worse’ on average,… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

In my line of Work I’ve seen far far worse abuses than this from the “police” officers. This is kitten-play – and I am not trying to shit-on the tragedy here. I am attempting to illustrate how bat-shit out of control these low-cal Nazi’s have gotten over the last 15 years. If I had a hay-penny for every cop that… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

A little bit on why I don’t trust cops. Years ago, I being a concerned citizen and all that shit, heard screams coming from an apartment near mine. So I let the cops know. <BIG FUCK UP. As I stepped out to have a smoke, I heard one of the six or so who where in that apartment ask the… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

I’ll simplify the above post regarding “police” for those short of attention:

Fuck’em. God will know his own when they come before him,

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Roguetek @ #: 4. The absolute lack of consequences for 1-3. A fair amount of blame for that can be placed at the feet of politicians – especially district attorneys and city attorneys. On the whole, they rarely bring much in the way of charges for police misconduct. Then there are the unions – when bad cops *are* thrown… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Emperor Misha I @ #: Now, you might not have an issue with me owning a 5 kiloton nuke in the garage, you would have no reason to since I’m a very, very nice guy 😉 , but what about Muhammed Headchopper al-Jihadi who was duly sworn in years ago as a U.S. citizen and has broken no laws since… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Emperor Misha I says:

If you really want to make a change, shoot politicians and union bosses. THEY are the root cause of the problem.

I don’t have much of a problem with that…..

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

Kaiser Mischa:

They just don’t build Nazis the way they used to.

I hope not!

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

A couple of things. I have not, at any point, advocated the death of law enforcement personnel. Nor do I intend to start. Any action against them should remain purely -within- the rule of law. There’s a clip from “a man for all seasons” that’s really appropriate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqytjlHNIM We, as a civilization, have laws for a -reason-. We employ people… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

LC Roguetek says: In all honesty, in my -entire life-, all 42 years of it, I’ve never had a situation get -better- because the police got involved. usual results range from ‘no change’ at best, to ‘somewhat worse’ on average, with the occasional ‘amazingly fucking bad’ thrown in. but never, -ever- better. ever. Perhaps it is where I am located,… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Roguetek @ #:

8th amendment – excessive bail, and cruel an[d] unusual punishment

The police are pretty safe on the cruel AND unusual punishment bit. Most police brutality is simply cruel – it’s not terribly unusual. Guys like Abner Louima (sodomized with a plunger handle) have a claim, though.

Tallulah
Tallulah

Just checking in: did you all see this?? A real live Third Amendment case: https://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/03/59061.htm Excerpt, from a long and HORRENDOUS saga: LAS VEGAS (CN) – Henderson police arrested a family for refusing to let officers use their homes as lookouts for a domestic violence investigation of their neighbors, the family claims in court. Anthony Mitchell and his parents Michael… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

This whole mess boils down to a simple fact. We have to many police officers and not enough peace officers. There is a difference. A peace officer’s job is to keep the peace. They use their training, experience and judgement when dealing with a situation. In some cases, instead of an arrest, they deliver a swift kick to the seat… Read more »

watchyerlane
watchyerlane

What a fantastic discussion, all. This is why this blog is daily reading. Are all cops evil members of the SS? Nope, no they’re not. What does happen though is when they refuse to police their own ranks and rid their citizens of these problem officers it erodes the trust and belief in that department. Once that occurs, it becomes… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

Its NOT just bad cops, its bad POLITICIANS too Kahr Arms Leaves New York In Response To SAFE Act New York is about to see millions of dollars in economic activity leave their state due to the tyrannical gun laws, known as the NY SAFE Act, that were signed into law earlier this year. Kahr Arms has decided to pick… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says: kmhendu says: I’m with you Roguetek. They always side with the State and there ain’t no denying that. WTSHTF whose side will the leos be on? I think the answer is obvious. That being said there will be leos on our side as well so the emperor’s point is well taken. I just… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

kmhendu says: I don’t hate the cops. But I understand that they do enforce unconstitutional laws right now and they will continue to do so as we slide into tyranny. Not all of them but most will because they have bills to pay and children to feed and there will be other motivating factors as well. then we need to… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

I am jaded. I won’t lie, I was surrounded by rank abuse for years. Seen way too many clients over the decades busted up beyond imagination, who were then criminally charged for their own beating. Far too many times for my liking dash-cam footage and audio was “damaged” or “lost.” Or “corrupted.” “We are conducting an internal audit to prevent… Read more »

LC Spare Parts
LC Spare Parts

What’s unsaid here is a dirty secret. Most police chiefs are in thrall to local Prosecutors who are really PERSECUTORS with personal agendas.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Don’t even get me started on DA’s.

Do.
Not.

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Or Federal Prosecutors.

Kristophr, LC
Kristophr, LC

Emperor Misha I says: Also, an absolutist interpretation of the 2nd Amendment leaves no room for argument as to whether it should be legal for a citizen to own a heat-seeking missile, an artillery battery and a nuke. Clearly, under the text of the 2nd Amendment, all of the above are legal. Now, you might not have an issue with… Read more »

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper

LC Spare Parts says: What’s unsaid here is a dirty secret. Most police chiefs are in thrall to local Prosecutors who are really PERSECUTORS with personal agendas. Both of whom usually have their beady little rat-like eyes fixed on gaining the mayoral office. OT: I just created a new gun owner of a friend of mine by selling him my… Read more »

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper

Also, an absolutist interpretation of the 2nd Amendment leaves no room for argument as to whether it should be legal for a citizen to own a heat-seeking missile, an artillery battery and a nuke.

😀 Oh, if only. 😀

LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R.
LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R.

Not sure if it has been posted elsewhere, but our friend Delftsman has lost his beloved Beth. So many tears in so short a time. I pray for Delfts and his family, and rejoice that our friend Beth is comforted by our Lord.

🙁

LC Roguetek
LC Roguetek

LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R. @ #:

Well, that sucks. Also, kinda takes the steam out of my sails…I’m done for now. A cease fire in memoriam, so to speak.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

watchyerlane @ #: Are all cops evil members of the SS? Nope, no they’re not. Hell, even the SS wasn’t “the SS”. The number of really nasty thugs even in groups like the SS, the KGB, etc., are pretty low. It is the mindset of the overall organization that is the problem. What does happen though is when they refuse… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #: then we need to bounce the ones that are writing the unconstitutional laws. We don’t do that by targeting “bad” cops as some have said here. As a practical matter, emperors are more easily touchable (and more easily swayed to the populace’s point of view) when they are stripped of their Praetorians.… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R. @ #:
Aye. Prayers for him and his family.

Getting sick of this type of news.

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

The Administration has been busy granting waivers, delays, and special carve outs from the burdens of ObamaCare to special interests and those with Washington lobbyists, but the American people keep getting left behind. The President owes the American people an answer: why does he think businesses deserve a one year delay from the mandates in ObamaCare, but middle class families… Read more »

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

LC Gladiator @ #: The President owes the American people an answer: why does he think businesses deserve a one year delay from the mandates in ObamaCare, but middle class families and hardworking Americans don’t? Since when does King Putz think he owes anyone an explanation about anything? As usual, if he doesn’t like something, he just ignores the law.… Read more »

Please tell me I have gone over the edge. Last night I went (wish I had not) to the US State Dept website. The below is from my post Working group – On the page titled “U.S.- Russian Bilateral Presidential Commission: Working Groups” on a side bar link called “Rule Of Law” was this little gem: “In May 2011, our… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Good news! FBI agents are always justified in their shootings. Vicki Weaver would probably be surprised, but hey…

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us/in-150-shootings-the-fbi-deemed-agents-faultless.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&amp;

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight
bruce
bruce

the cops are not your friend and will do what ever president bongo tells them to do.

angrywebmaster
angrywebmaster

bruce @ #: the cops are not your friend and will do what ever president bongo tells them to do. I’m afraid it’s going to take a disaster of epic proportions before law enforcement rotates back into peace officer mode. I don’t mean disaster like Ruby Ridge or Waco, where the targets were massacred by police/federal agents. No, it will… Read more »