Whatchagonnadoaboutit?

LC and IB Bill Quick answers, to a question as to why the Ogabe Junta lies, stalls, obfuscates and breaks the law at will (in this case refusing to provide the documentation in the David “Entitled Prick” Gregory Is Apparently Above The Law™ case, but it applies equally to every single other one of the umpteen cases of Ogabe and his Commissars getting away with murder):

Why? Because they can.

They do what they want, and then they lie and stonewall if you have the temerity to question them.

We live in a tyranny. People need to understand that.

I know they’d like to avoid that conclusion, because once they arrive at it, they are then faced with the question of what to do about it.

And most of the answers are fairly repugnant. [Emphasis added — Emp.M.]

Exactly.

And that is why we are “treated” to endless exclamations of “surely not!”, “this must be the unintentional consequences of some mistakes somewhere”, “let’s not put on our tinfoil hats here” and “Obama is just a well-intentioned man who is in over his head” every time more evidence of perjury, lies, corruption, overreach, tyranny, Stasi methods and treason is added to the already enormous pile indicting the Ogabe Junta and their goons.

Certainly it’s not because all of those people saying such things are stupid, because a lot of them are most assuredly not stupid, nor is it because all of them are nefariously trying to cover for a tyrant, because a lot of them are demonstrably not on Comrade Ogabe’s side.

It’s because they already know the answer, and the answer scares them. As it should. It scares the everloving fuck out of His Imperial Majesty too.

Because once that elephant in the middle of our once free republic is acknowledged to exist, it becomes mandatory for any self-respecting patriot to do something about it, and nothing good lies down that road.

But travel that road we must. If not now, then later. If not on our own terms, then on theirs. If not on our feet, then shackled on our knees in cattle cars on the way to the camps.

Discuss.

Thatisall.

23 comments

  1. 1
    Bones growls and barks:

    Nail, meet hammer! Exactly correct, unfortunately.
    Uh, FOIST!

  2. 2
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    What to do?

    The French showed us the way to deal with this manner of slime in 1793 – back when they had a collective set of balls (not borrowed from someone).

  3. 3
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    We live in a tyranny. People need to understand that.

    I know they’d like to avoid that conclusion, because once they arrive at it, they are then faced with the question of what to do about it.

    What to do about it? That’s easy – nothing. Why rock the boat? For the vast majority of people (here and elsewhere), tyranny really isn’t that bad. Sure, you might have more forms to fill out, you might have to wait longer for things, and yeah, you have to watch what you say about political topics, but most people don’t talk about them that much anyway. On a meaningful day-to-day basis, it simply does not impact people’s lives. So long as there are still consumer goods, so long as there is still food, it’s easier for people to just keep their heads down and live with it.

  4. 4
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    From Deth Guild:

    http://www.dethguild.com/the-government-has-lost-the-consent-to-govern/

    Spying on the press. Using the instrumentality of the government to attack, suppress, and destroy free speech. Arming the Mexican cartels to perpetrate false flag attacks in the name of citizen disarmament. Destroying the currency and savings – and thus the life – of the citizenry. Passing unconstitutional edicts infringing on the liberty of the people.

    This is what our leaders offer us in exchange for our hard won treasure. Slavery and oppression. Tyranny writ large.

    This is a government that is lawless, corrupt, and in shredding the rule of law, they have willfully abdicated the consent of the people. The Constitution is effectively a dead letter due to their unwillingness to adhere to it. The Prog-Nazi’s and their retard pet Neo-cons have gotten their wish – the Republic is truly gone, and they now govern as iron-handed tyrants – not properly elected representatives of the citizenry.

    Civil-servants have coronated themselves civil-masters, and made themselves a throne from the tattered ashes of our once great nation. They think themselves just, wise, and infallible, when in fact, they are the polar opposite. They crush and destroy all who speak against them, convinced of the utter righteousness of their ideals, too blind to see their inquisition for what it is.

    They are tyrants, deserving of a tyrant’s fate, and their dessert draws ever closer – for the fools, in destroying law, have not simply crumbled the barriers protecting we the people from their totalitarian poison – they have torn away the shield that protects them from us. Indeed, when confronted with a wretched government, operating without the consent of it’s people, an overthrow of said government becomes not simply desirable – but an operational imperative, transcending the need for safety, wealth, and even life itself.

    They started the war, willingly and fully aware of the repercussions. Anything that happens beyond this point is the wages due for boat they’ve summoned. And Charon wants his silver.

    Fuck-em.
    – SilverDeth

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    Mark12A growls and barks:

    I heard once that when Moses led the Jews out of Egypt only one in five went. One could stretch that statistic as come to the conclusion that 80% of any population is okay with being slaves.

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    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    A couple of observations. I believe, holding back the masses. One, we are a people that have a hard time realizing that this happening. I think that they call cognitive dissonance. We realize that bad things are happening but can’t bring ourselves to do something about it because, as Americans, we don’t have a history of the government trying to oppresses us like this. These things happen to Turd World countries, not here. So they think if they wait, next election, nest year, whatever it will turn around. They truly believe the system will right the ship without drastic measures by them. They literately look at the ammo box and say to themselves “No, not yet. Lets wait until the next election” and close the box all the while the traitors gain another inch.

    The other thing is that the American people have enjoyed freedom so long that we take it for granted. 200+ years we have never had a violent overthrow of our government. We can still go about our normal lives in relative freedom without noticeable intervention by the government. We have never had a coups, purge or military takeover. It’s like calling 911 knowing that the ambulance will come because it always does, we have always believed in the peaceful transition of power. It gives a sense of superiority over the rest of the world. Throw in the fact that 40 years of publik skool indoctrination have turned enough Americans into drooling fucktards that skew all the polls and give the illusion that a plurality of Americans believe that it isn’t happening.

    It’s going to take something dramatic that directly affects millions of Americans at a personal level for them to pick up the rope, tie the nooses and fill up the street lights.

  7. 7
    LC Spare Parts growls and barks:

    There will be no revolt so long as the sheeple are comfortable and their no talent shows are on every night.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID – The Imperial Asshole @ #:

    It’s going to take something dramatic that directly affects millions of Americans at a personal level for them to pick up the rope, tie the nooses and fill up the street lights.

    Would-be tyrants have learned from history. Keep the people relatively sated, and you can get away with whatever you want. It makes sense for all concerned. If you want power, what does it matter to give the ruled some trinkets? If you want a quiet, relatively comfortable life, why go out of your way to piss off powerful people who otherwise have no interest in you? Everybody gets what they want, and everything keeps right on spinning.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    On my feet.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    They tyrants in charge have learned jack shit from history. Just like all of the empires before, they have flushed away sound monetary policy, devalued the currency, and turned the instruments of the state against the serfs. Eventually, this leads to economic ruin – and then the bread and circuses WILL stop.

    The free shit army will find itself with a void in it’s belly and lint in it’s pocket sooner rather than later, and then we can look forward to the sort of civil unrest that can be… capitalized on.

    Negative Nancy”s didn’t win the revolutionary war, and they won’t win the Civil War that’s brewing here. “Woe is me, we are all doomed, blah blah blah cry.”

    And hey, you never know – .gov may just get some helping hands when it comes to “infrastructure management” – to the point the sheep sure as shit will feel it – all the sooner. They are teetering on the edge of an abyss already, arm’s flailing. Some patriotically minded souls may just decide to give the assholes a little nudge with the butt of their AR…

    “Can’t never did nothing.”

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

    Eventually, this leads to economic ruin – and then the bread and circuses WILL stop.

    At which point the elites will either: (1) reduce headcount by elimination of designated “enemies of the people”; or (2) embark on wars of conquest to refill the treasury. Historically, both will be met with public acclaim, so long as the groups eliminated are sufficiently demonized and/or the wars of conquest are successful.

    It’s an old playbook, and it works remarkably well.

    And hey, you never know – .gov may just get some helping hands when it comes to “infrastructure management” – to the point the sheep sure as shit will feel it – all the sooner. They are teetering on the edge of an abyss already, arm’s flailing. Some patriotically minded souls may just decide to give the assholes a little nudge with the butt of their AR…

    I’m sure you read some of the IIIper sites like Sipsey Street Irregulars, WRSA, etc. Even a cursory review of the comments there and at similar sites show very little cohesion among the folks who would be fighting against Leviathan. Some are actively hoping to see the bulk of the populace starve to death, others simply want to run off into the wilds and play Rambo Meets Grizzly Adams, others want to embark on extended genocide, or set up a “white homeland,” or create a society of total anarchy, etc. There are very few people who willing to engage in anything beyond – at most – setting up a “local tribe”. Until a goodly percentage of the population are united around some common ideals and goals, not much of anything can or will happen. There might be the occasional pan-flash uprising, but without broad support, each would be easily dealt with.

    It’s not a question of being positive or negative about what is coming. The fighting part will be the easy bit. It will be herding the cats into a body of common interest sufficient to sustain the fight that’s the hard part, and there isn’t much doing on that front. Right now, FreeFor (or whatever you want to call it) doesn’t have a coherent plan and doesn’t have anything much to offer to induce folks to join.

  12. 12
    0007 growls and barks:

    Me, I’m ‘scoping all my long guns…

  13. 13
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    One measure I thought of yesterday: an online cartoon/comic strip about a non-super hero who fights the Badministration. This led family to object that I’d make myself a target, though I won’t be intimidated & in fact don’t have that much to lose. A more practical concern is that I’m not necessarily that talented or productive.

    In general we may need to ask ourselves, “What would Master Sun do?” He advised attacking “emptiness,” to hit the enemy where he’s weak. So we might want to consider: What are the regime & companys’ weakest points?

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    There are very few people who willing to engage in anything beyond – at most – setting up a “local tribe”. Until a goodly percentage of the population are united around some common ideals and goals, not much of anything can or will happen. There might be the occasional pan-flash uprising, but without broad support, each would be easily dealt with.

    I disagree fully with damn near everything you said, I don’t have the time tonight to refute it point by point – exhausted after tilling another row for my garden.. All of these things will come in time. The founders had none of what you claim to be necessary to start a successful war. In fact, things were a damn shambles for decades after the war. Alliances will form in time. As will plans for what comes after.

    The people planning and acting local are the smart ones. The government is the weak horse here. They know it, and the are paralyzed with fear that the ants will figure it out en-mass.

    And WHEN the money runs out, all those little ants will start getting feisty. Will they all turn into drooling conservative death-beasts? Hah! No. But they will serve their purposes well. They will kill a few goons, and deal enormous damage, both in property, and to the economy at large. And then they will be forcefully pacified, or bribed into piece, just like the Goths and Saxons that came before them – either way works to our ends. Unsavory rabble is being weeded out, or the hurting treasury is hurt even more, hastening the inevitable collapse. Leviathan can try to steal more – it will only make more borderlines into full on anti-gov zealots.

    Any way this goes, they loose.

    This country is already fucking dead, and the only thing we are arguing is timeline. How long can they kick the can? And when they can’t anymore… well friends… that’s when it’s time to “be the black swan” – every bubble, every debt ceiling increase, every round of QE just pulls another brick from the foundation.

    The government eats money like a coke-head snorts blow – and like the junkie, the high takes more and more each time – and their body get’s weaker and weaker as time goes on.

    …in the end… they will only need a little push… and it will ALL come down.

    Then hell gets paid. With 109 years of interest. No avoiding it. Let’s nudge it to fruition as quick as possible so that maybe our great-grand-kids can have something that approaches a decent place to live.

    Not to sound rough, but our kids and grand-kids are all pretty well fucked. It’s our generation’s fault.

  15. 15
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    In general we may need to ask ourselves, “What would Master Sun do?” He advised attacking “emptiness,” to hit the enemy where he’s weak. So we might want to consider: What are the regime & companys’ weakest points?

    The nanny state’s weakness is money. It’s a system of bribery. Tax evasion, and using every means, legal and otherwise, to bleed the fucker dry. If you have any opportunity to take a dollar out of the government’s mouth… do it. Can you hassle them? Makes their jobs harder or more expensive? Put them in harm’s way?

    Do it. Enroll for any and every benefit you can, then donate the earnings to a charity – like the NRA or GoA. Or drop off the SNAP card food at a local church for those that really do need it. Bury them in paperwork, bill them for anything you can, frivolous lawsuits for anything and everything.

    The more you squeeze them, the more they will squeeze the population – and that simply swells the ranks of “radicals” with disaffected people who were formerly borderline.

    The more you make government hurt, the more it will hurt the people, and the more people it will turn angry. They don’t have to even be angry AT the government – just angry enough to get belligerent and maybe tear up their town some.

    Step 1: We have to be made ungovernable as a people, which will eventually collapse the entire crooked system even faster than it’s already going down. And the great thing, is, the government’s own institutions will be our greatest asset in making that happen.

    Step 2: We have to be the strong horse, or willing to kill off the “other strong horses” when the people and the world start clamoring for the violence, bloodshed, and chaos to end.

    That’s where things get interesting. But we will have years of chaos to sort that out and coagulate around the least bad of the choices offered.

    And if we are lucky,, some of them may even be almost tolerable.

  16. 16
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    “And how we burned in the [Gulag] camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

    Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?…

    The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

    If…if…

    We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation….

    We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

    — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (who knew)

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    “… What about the main thing in life, all its riddles? If you want, I’ll spell it out for you right now.

    Do not pursue what is illusionary — property and position: all that is gained at the expense of your nerves decade after decade, and is confiscated in one fell night.

    Live with a steady superiority over life -don’t be afraid of misfortune, and do not yearn for happiness; it is, after all, all the same: the bitter doesn’t last forever, and the sweet never fills the cup to overflowing.

    It is enough if you don’t freeze in the cold and if thirst and hunger don’t claw at your insides. If your back isn’t broken, if your feet can walk, if both arms can bend, if both eyes can see, if both ears hear, then whom should you envy? And why? Our envy of others devours us most of all.

    Rub your eyes and purify your heart — and prize above all else in the world those who love you and who wish you well.

    Do not hurt them or scold them, and never part from any of them in anger; after all, you simply do not know: it may be your last act before your arrest, and that will be how you are imprinted on their memory.”

    The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956

    “Someone that you have deprived of everything is no longer in your power. He is once again entirely free.”

    . . . .

    “A great disaster had befallen Russia: Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.”

    — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

  18. 18
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Dunno why my rebuttal to Eeyore got eaten. Needs to be approved I suspect.

    Oh well.

    I’ll summarize.:
    You’re wrong, lay down an die if you like, but stay outta our way once this gets going.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

    The founders had none of what you claim to be necessary to start a successful war.

    What?

    The Continental Congress existed beginning in 1774. The Declaration of Colonial Rights was passed in 1774. The Continental Association was established in 1774. The Petition to the King was drafted and sent in 1774 – all at least six months before the first shots were fired at Lexington and Concord. Thus, a government had been formed, a broad statement of purpose given, and concrete steps towards achieving the goals in the statement of purpose had been made. It wasn’t an ideal situation, but things were at least partially set up and making progress towards becoming a unifying system.

    Each colony also had at least some form of functioning government. Militias had already been established, and in many cases, formalized, at least to a degree.

    Similarly, the Confederacy also had a government in place before it went to war, and there were established militias, as well. The Irish had a provisional government before they went to war with the British, and they had at least some rudimentary military organization. The Slovenes and Croats had some basics established before they declared independence from Yugoslavia. When Tshombe declared independence for Katanga in the Congo Crisis, there was an existing political organization, and some established (albeit friendly foreign) military. Some were successful, some were not, but all at least had a degree of organization present when they started fighting. Say what you will about the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, but they were both *very* well organized before they took power, and their methods have been copied in other successful movements.

    Obviously, any start-up government will be far less established and effective than an existing one, but there has to be some sort of organization. Independent raiders can certainly wreak havoc on governmental forces, but without some sort of united system/plan/strategy, they are limited in what they can accomplish, and like as not, will end up fighting each other as well. Hell, even with a central structure and established policies, there are still probably going to be nasty schisms that may even lead to internecine violence.

    Beyond that, *someone* will have to make sure things keep running as ground is gained. Water has to flow, food has to get distributed, there will need to be health care, sanitation, schools, courts, basic public safety, etc. FreeFor is going to have to come up with some system to ensure the basic functioning of whatever areas it controls, or it won’t be able to draw in much popular support.

    With luck, some existing structures might come in – a state that secedes, some counties, cities, or towns, etc. Those would be very useful foundations, but it’s impossible to say at present if any of that will happen.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    O/T but open threads seem to be few and far between lately. ENJOY!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwluC6GoKLE&feature=youtu.be

    and

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuG0ifhPxRc

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    http://www.dailypundit.com/?p=72217

    SAN JOSE (CBS SF) – In apparent acts of “sabotage” in the South Bay early Tuesday, someone cut fiber optic cables, knocking out some 911 service, and then fired a rifle at a PG&E substation, Santa Clara County’s sheriff said.

    The vandal’s objective appears to have been “shutting down the system,” Sheriff Laurie Smith said at a news conference at the substation Tuesday afternoon.

    “We don’t have a suspect,” she said. “It seems like the same perpetrator or perpetrators to me.”

    For some reason this was back on the local news today. When I first heard about it, they weren’t mentioning that fiber cables had also been cut, so that the TV news reports made it sound like a possible case of random vandalism.

    Obviously, it was not. Somebody has at least some notion just how vulnerable our power and communications infrastructures really are, and is making use of the knowledge.
    – Bill Quick

    Con: We are in deep shit.
    Pro: The feds are in deeper shit.

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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    And Charon wants his silver.

    And that terrible Ferryman will have his pay, let there be no doubts about it.

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