This is America

To say the least LC Brenden and have a serious disagreement on what happened.  Thinking about what I was going to say I found in my meanderings through the intertubes Karl Denninger had already done it for me.

Such as the fact that despite every news anchor and many of the people in Boston pumping their fists and screaming “USA!” along with lauding law enforcement, the fact is that law enforcement could not find its ass with both hands.

It doesn’t stop there.  Oh no, by effectively occupying a part of the Boston metro area they made an utter mockery of the 4th Amendment.  There was no “hot pursuit” and thus no argument available to them allowing searches of private property without consent or a warrant.  Not only did they search without a warrant there were multiple reports through the day of seizure of firearms, among other things.

The Constitutional Rights of an entire town, some 30,000 residents, were wantonly and outrageously violated yesterday, yet not one media outlet is focusing there.

Nor are they focusing on the fact that after a full day of undeclared and illegal martial law, complete with “papers please”, unconstitutional searches and seizures and military hardware and weapons all over the streets (heh Barack, what was that crap about “weapons of war”?) the cops FAILED to find the jackass.

Instead, within a half-hour of the “can’t find our ass with both hands” cops giving up on locking down the town an ordinary citizen finds the bad guy in his boat.

In 30 minutes “We the people” do what thousands of cops spending millions of dollars and violating the rights of every citizen in the town could not and the people did it without all that fancy military hardware too.

So what do the cops do?  They shoot at and destroy the boat, of course, in “convincing” the bad guy to come out.  Boats you see, must not have extra holes in them or they don’t float very well.  The cops added many extra holes and a few flash-bangs to the mix too, despite knowing that the vessel had a full tank of fuel on board and might catch on fire or explode.  It didn’t, fortunately, but that’s small consolation to the owner who is almost-certain to see both the city refuse to pay for the damage and his insurance company refuse to cover it too (look in your policy; in general such “acts of war, declare or undeclared” are considered non-covered perils.)  Never mind that the guy actually doing the warlike things (the terrorist) didn’t cause of the damage – the cops did.

Was there anything the cops did right?  Well, yeah, I suppose.  Their fancy FLIR gear on the chopper, once pointed out where to look by the homeowner, did detect the heat of the jackass in the boat.  Ok.  Wow man, technology.  I’m supposed to be impressed by this after the specific location of the bad guy was pointed out by the homeowner who saw him in the boat and called the police?

FAIL.

What we saw in Boston was the surrender of peoples rights when they should have said no.  We saw is a community submit, however gently, to the state.  We saw them cower in their homes because they had been disarmed and could no longer protect themselves.  What the world saw as cops doing their jobs we saw totalitarianism and dictatorship.  Just because you wear a badge does not give you the right to shit on my rights just so it makes your life safer.  And if your only thoughts are “Please God let me get through this and go home alive tonight” you need to find a new line of work.  Your job is to protect and to serve. 

 Can you imagine Rick Perry telling the people of Dallas to stay in their homes and wait for the police to search?  I can’t either.  You would have heard him tell people to get with their neighbors and check around.  Check on those that are elderly, disabled, or on people who just need little help and keep an eye on them.  If you see something call us and we’ll check it out.  There wouldn’t have been a full scale invasion.  In Boston they did and the terrorist won.  Congrats assholes.

 This is America.  Our Bill of Rights and Constitution are not merely words on parchment.  They are Biblical Law given down to us by our Founding Fathers written in blood.  The rest of the world looks upon our system with disdain, bewilderment, scorn, and hate.  We have a system that can’t be understood except by Americans.  What you, Brenden don’t understand is that our Constitution is framed to put limits on the cops, the military and the government because we don’t trust them.  It’s ingrained into us not trust them.  Sorry if that’s hard to take but that’s the way real Americans think and believe.

Sorry but that’s not a world as an American I can nor will I live in.  And, as Dinninger says, we’d better wake up.

Photos curtsey of Keystone State III

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45 comments

  1. 1
    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    This guy is absolutely spot on … this is a PRIME example of why the 2nd Amendment was written. Won’t be long before we see this grotesque perversion of protect and serve elsewhere – just to test the public ” submission factor.” This wasn’t protect and serve, it was hide and submit while we cover or own asses.

    What you saw, regardless of your view of how/why the bombing was planned, was a martial law trial run.

  2. 2
    Lockpick growls and barks:

    I am glad I am not the only one thinking the same thing. What would have happened to the home owner that asked to see a search warrant?

  3. 3
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Lockpick: They would have hog-tied him, drug his family outside at gun point, shot the dog, ransacked the place, charged them with any piddly crimes they uncovered while tearing apart the owner’s home, had DCW take the kids, taken their firearms, and drug the family through the legal ringer for several years and tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, (assuming they don’t plea-bargain), until they are finally found not guilty by a jury. They can then spend another year trying to get their guns, children, and any other assets seized back, at about five times the value of whatever they lost, and when that’s done, they can spend another three years in court suing the city, (which they will win), or the city will settle, and then go back to court in another 4 months or so as the city appeals, and and have the 3 million they won the first go-around reduced to about 300,000.

    Unless of course they have really tech savvy parents who took good video and pictures of the cute dog dying, with the kids lying next to the pup crying. We still have enough decency left in our society that a Cop on the stand lying his ass off still looses out to a pair of cute kids hugging their doggie as it dies.

    When dealing with police: Always take pictures. Always take video. And always stream them to a remote local.

    Always. No exceptions.

  4. 4
    LadyRaven growls and barks:

    How about this picture…..
    http://greyenigma.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/or-is-it-a-military-state/
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  5. 5
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    “This is America.” OK, but it’s also Massivenuisance.

    Can you imagine Rick Perry telling the people of Dallas to stay in their homes and wait for the police to search? I can’t either.

    Which goes to show that Texas ain’t New England!

  6. 6
    0007 growls and barks:

    My first thought when I saw the picture of the guys in the black outfits riding on the sides of that big black truck was ” wow, one round of .50BMG down each side and you’d have cleaned the dross off that one…

  7. 7
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Light:

    Thanks for the photos of the Boston PD handiwork

    Allow me to now provide you now with some photos of the Waffen SS handiwork, and please, feel free to show me the comparison.

    WARNING: Graphic.

    http://www.world-war-2-diaries.com/image-files/concentration-camp-germany.jpg

    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRdEew7G7ej2hT-WXlrp0qHud6qnCKCWJ6xVptnmqtaGIzpnNJ

    http://classfromtheundeground.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/mizocz.jpg

    http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY8MmcWIBUgqUsJOAin4rDM9AdDvlEy03rqArtnM-8mgK36cVhyw

    I have no issue with you Light, I may even agree that the way things were handled was hamhanded and misguided..in that you may be right.

    But you are the one who made the disgusting and vile comparison between the two, and until you retract that remark, my opinion of you STANDS.

    Man up and admit it.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    What you, Brenden don’t understand is that our Constitution is framed to put limits on the cops, the military and the government because we don’t trust them. It’s ingrained into us not trust them. Sorry if that’s hard to take but that’s the way real Americans think and believe.

    What I understand is

    1. My name is BRENDAN with an A.

    2. The Boston PD is not the Waffen SS

    3. You defile them with that vile and vicious slur and you spit upon the memories of those who died in the Holocaust by doing so.

    To refer to police officers as the kind that massacred millions, the kind of men who butchered women and children indiscriminately?

    By making that comment you stepped way over the line, and I will NOT ever back down until you man up and have the guts to accept it.

    I come from a family of cops, and you insult and spit their memories as well.

    Retract it, Light.

  9. 9
    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    LCBrendan says:

    I come from a family of cops, and you insult and spit their memories as well.
    Retract it, Light.

    And the award for most annoying melodramatic bitch-boy goes to …

    When did they disown your sorry pansy-ass?

  10. 10

    anyone have anything relevant to add to this discussion or is this another thread that will be totally hijacked by those who would rather use the liberal strategy of devolving into idiotic personal insults when they have nothing intelligent to say…..

    I’ve been a regular here for well over 10 years, I have learned a lot and have made some good friends here. But the level and intelligence of the discourse here has just gone to hell in the last few months, I don’t learn anything here anymore, I don’t get any inspiration or insights…I just get disgusted at the stupidity and ill tempered sniping that goes on. Y’all will never present a cohesive and united front to the real enemy if you keep shooting each other in the back.

    so just keep squabbling among yourselves, it provides a nice distraction from the real threat…….

  11. 11
    Orion growls and barks:

    To the two of you – I think his point, prior to the insult fest – was that we are at the start of the slippery slope that leads to the camps.

    The ‘good Germans’, if you will…Just trying to get along, helping the nice police officers. The point being that once ignoring and trampling on rights gets to be a habit it, well, gets to be a habit. Your rights are no longer rights, they’re quite optional and dependant upon the mood of the folks with the guns and badges.

    Orion

  12. 12
    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Brendan, I have a real problem with police geared up like assault troops. And rolling about in armored vehicles with heavy weapon mount points.
    Oh yes, and searches without a warrant are definitely a violation of the Constitution.

  13. 13
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

    What Jaybear said.

    I DO believe that both sides have made their points quite clear at this time, and you both have good points.

    But at this point nobody’s actually engaged in what might be called “argument”, you’re all just swinging your dicks around, so unless something has something worthwhile to add?

    *raises eyebrow*
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  14. 14
    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    I am concerned that ONE jihadi could put an entire city under martial law. And that is what it was.

    It is a sign that the government knows that the citizens, deprived of arms cannot defend ourselves from a threat, and yet their answer is to take our protection away…or at least reduce it to ineffective.

    If this happened in my neighborhood tomorrow, and the cops knocked on my door, I would answer with a shotgun right next to me and if they demand I turn over the firearm, I’d be in jail rather than give up my right to defend myself and my family.

  15. 15
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    But at this point nobody’s actually engaged in what might be called “argument”, you’re all just swinging your dicks around, so unless something has something worthwhile to add?

    Know why this shit went down in Beantown ?? Because here in Texas some CCW holder would have smoked the fucking jihadis. Or in any of the other states that allow citizens to carry arms. See the shooting in the D/FW area last week…..

  16. 16
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Block quote FAIL….

    [Gotcha covered, Lobo..... -Venomous]

  17. 17
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Well, there is THIS to add.

    Which is un-fuckingbelievable. Read about Boston, the cops, and what they told Dunkin’ Donuts to do:

    http://www.popehat.com/2013/04/20/security-theater-martial-law-and-a-tale-that-trumps-every-cop-and-donut-joke-youve-ever-heard/

    Oh, my God.

  18. 18
    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    I know I”m gonna get in trouble for this, but I just cant resist…

    Dear Brenda.

    While it’s touching that you’re outraged on behalf of a bunch of people you share very little with, and know even less about, I really wouldn’t go ranting about it to such length. You might strain something. I will however, agree with you on one thing.

    Comparing the boston PD to the waffen SS is shameful, you’re absolutely right.

    Light, you owe the Waffen SS an apology.

    The SS had discipline, courage, marksmanship, ruthless competance, and a proper grasp of personal hygiene.

    The Boston PD has none of these things.

    however, to be fair,the BPD never committed atrocities on the scale of the SS, not even close. Of course, I don’t think the BPD could manage rise to that particular occasion, even if they wanted to.

  19. 19
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    In New York City (Thursday), a wild melee erupts as the NYPD arrests a muslim for attacking a Jew on the subway train: you have to see this video to believe it:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/c9l3lxd

    watch the whole thing, and for God’s sake stay off the 3 train in Brooklyn; this is scary as shit

    the cops are barely in control here; next time the crowd will boil over, like they did in my neighborhood last year, with hundreds going apeshit in the street

  20. 20
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LCBrendan @ #:

    Allow me to now provide you now with some photos of the Waffen SS handiwork, and please, feel free to show me the comparison.

    FBI was part of the LEO presence in Boston. I believe you’re familiar with their handiwork:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Surveillance_photograph_of_Vicki_Weaver_21_Aug_1992.jpg
    (She looked a little worse for the wear later on, after Lon Horiuchi uh….broadened her mind, shall we say. They then taunted the family about killing her.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mountcarmelfire04-19-93-p.jpg
    (This is what a “This is not an assault” looks like. Oh yeah, Horiuchi showed up here, too – with some more “questionable” shooting)

    Boston FBI Agent John Connolly – convicted of 2nd degree murder, racketeering, and obstruction of justice

    You may also want to look up Jose Ortiz, and Boston Police corruption.

  21. 21
    Anthony L. growls and barks:

    Ingrained not to trust the government, sure. LEO’s are civilians, and the military is SUPPOSED to be under civilian control. It is unfortunate that this state of affairs has been greatly eroded, and thus, I have a strong reservations about trusting both. That is not to say they should be compared to the Nazi’s in any way.

    I believe Light is suggesting we must be vigilant concerning our Constitutional rights and the limits our founding charter places on these organizations lest they degenerate into something horrible. Just my $.02.LCBrendan @ #:

  22. 22
    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    I’ve been told on more than one occasion to keep it in my pants. :em07:

    As for comparing with what the Waffen SS did to what the cops did, it’s only a matter of time because the history is repeating itself, so no, I won’t retract it. It’s a FIRST Amendment thing. But it’s a destiny that doesn’t have to be repeated IF we stand once again and fight for what the Constitution means. The very sight of the police running around in combat gear, armored vehicles all the while stomping on the Constitution is vile and sicking NO MATTER THE REASON. This is how Nazi Germany started down the road to murder so yes the comparison is valid. Don’t believe me? Do a little research on the personalities that made up SS-Obergruppenführer Heydrichs RSHA. A majority of them began their careers in life either as lawyers, professors or policeman. All they had to be was conditioned and what do you think this little exercise in Boston did?

    And don’t think I’m alone. Hundreds of blogs are waking up to what THEY saw and don’t like it either to include some in the Limp Dick Media. They got a good, hard look at what a police state looks like and they don’t like it either.

  23. 23
    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    Brendan, do you think the Waffen SS started out like those photos? Do you think the people of Germany, in one fell swoop, went psychotic and decided they wanted a government that would perpetrate such evil? Or did it start out with small incidents and build up to what is in those photos?
    The plain fact was that what destroyed Germany in the 1940′s were a series of small steps “for the greater good” and “for public safety” (gun ban), until there were no civil liberties for anyone. This is what is starting here, and Boston is one of the small incidents.
    You can take offense all you want, but the fact of the matter remains that Ear Leader, the BlightBringer, has already asked military leaders if they would give orders to fire on civilians. It is a fact these cops ignored the 4th amendment “for the greater good” and “for public safety”. It is you who owe Light29ID an apology, Brendan.

  24. 24
    single stack growls and barks:

    LC Ogrrre @ #: 23

    +100. Absolutely spot on.

    What happened in the pics Brendan posted is the result of allowing what happened in Boston to go unchecked. It WILL happen here if we don’t stop it now.
    After watching the sheeple cheering the jackboots after martial law was lifted (for now) I’m afraid that it WILL happen here.
    I don’t think Brendan has any credibility in this argument because he lives in a society without a tradition of liberty (it started as a very brutal British prison colony fer crissakes) that has gone much further down the road to socialist utopia than we have so far. The Aussies don’t have to worry so much about being massacred by their government since they showed that they won’t resist a police state by voluntarily disarming themselves. They can’t resist anyway since they already surrendered without firing a shot.

  25. 25
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Law enforcement asked Dunkin’ Donuts to keep restaurants open in locked-down communities to provide… food to police… including in Watertown, the focus of the search for the bombing suspect.

  26. 26
    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #:

    I’m shocked, shocked to find donuts being eaten during martial law – Captain Louis Renault

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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    As to the poster who said this would never happen in Texas. Absolutely right, the phone call would have been;

    911 – 911, please state your emergency.

    Law Abiding Texan – uh…yeah. That Borat looking guy y’all are looking for?

    911 – Uh yes, sir. Do you know of his location?

    Law Abiding Texan – Yep, and you’ll need a wagon to drag his carcass out. THat’ll be the last time that sumbitch tries to climb up into my boat.

    And that would have been it. No 4th Amendment breaches, no civilians cowering in fear….nope, in Texas Borat would have thought not just twice but 3 or 4 times before he went onto some Texans property uninvited

    As for the Waffen SS, in the 1930′s the SS was very popular as it was for many Germans a display of Germany’s grand resurgence. It wasn’t until TSHTF did they become clearly the disgusting organization we now know of.

  28. 28
    single stack growls and barks:

    The Aussies don’t have to worry so much about being massacred by their government

    I left out part of that sentence. It should read:

    The Aussies don’t have to worry so much about being massacred by their government during the initial crackdown...

  29. 29
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Whether intentional or not, Boston turned out to be one hell of a beta test, a dry run if you will, for the full implementation of martial law and the police state nationwide. Innocent Americans were removed from their homes BY THREAT OF FORCE, without cause, without warrant, and they and their homes were searched. I don’t care that they were looking for a dangerous terrorist. Public safety does not trump individual liberty.
    The enemies of freedom have fully unmasked themselves. Study them. Know them. PREPARE .

  30. 30
    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    Out of respect for Misha, I will cease and desist my non-substantive posts. I do, however, reserve the future right to call a twat a twat when I see it.

  31. 31
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Official: Boston bombing suspect suffers
    throat injury, may not be able to talk

    BOSTON – The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings suffered an injury to his throat and may not be able to talk, a federal official told CNN on Saturday, possibly hindering attempts by authorities to question him about a motive in the attack. With one suspect dead, authorities believe answers to a motive and whether the brothers had help rest with Dzhokar Tsarnaev, who was captured Friday night just minutes after authorities had indicated that a massive manhunt for the suspect appeared to come up empty.

    Curious……………………………..

  32. 32
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Official: Boston bombing suspect suffers
    throat injury, may not be able to talk

    BOSTON – The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings suffered an injury to his throat and may not be able to talk, a federal official told CNN on Saturday, possibly hindering attempts by authorities to question him about a motive in the attack. With one suspect dead, authorities believe answers to a motive and whether the brothers had help rest with Dzhokar Tsarnaev, who was captured Friday night just minutes after authorities had indicated that a massive manhunt for the suspect appeared to come up empty.

    Curious……………………………..

    From the Daily Mail, Bomber ‘put gun in his mouth and fired as he was cornered in boat’ and wounds mean he may NEVER be able to be quizzed.
    It’s down the lane, not across the street. Dumbass.

  33. 33
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    I’ve been a regular here for well over 10 years, I have learned a lot and have made some good friends here. But the level and intelligence of the discourse here has just gone to hell in the last few months

    …and when was the last time that was said on these pages…without either me or Deej being involved…??? :em03:

  34. 34

    Darth Venomous says:

    and when was the last time that was said on these pages…without either me or Deej being involved…???

    well, at least your’s and Deej’s exchanges have some entertainment value…..

  35. 35
    Lockpick growls and barks:

    I have been a regular for a while, mostly lurking. I am amazed that anyone who reads and contributes to this forum would be willing accept the behavior of the Mass. LEOs.

    This is not just a slippery slope there is more than enough documentation, in just the last 200 years alone, that governments will take full advantage of it’s citizens’ failures to protest a government’s improper takings. Mass. looked more like an occupation. Plus, that area has made sure the good, law abiding citizens are disarmed and will allow the government to enter their property and homes with no questions.

    If the rest of the US does not address these egregious constitutional violations, we (or, our children) are in for a hell of ride.

  36. 36
    irish19 growls and barks:

    Lockpick @ #:
    I’m thinking we’re in for a helluva ride in any case. I’m glad I’m not the only one who found this lockdown and its possible implications for the future to be disconcerting to put it mildly.

  37. 37
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    I know that Russia Today isn’t one of the better place to get anything “news” like but this really asks a big WTF ??? ‘Boston Bombers’ Tsarnaev brothers: Where the dots won’t connect
    The money shot,

    The 19-year old Dzhokhar hasen’t spoken to investigators yet because he can’t. He is said to be ‘intubated and sedated’ with a throat wound. Boston Mayor Tom Menino voiced concerns Sunday that authorities may never be able to question him at all.

    One thing remains unclear though – how the young man could walk out of the boat he was hiding in already with a throat wound that he is now almost dying from.

  38. 38
    Chuck growls and barks:

    Via WRSA

    While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.

    Guess that answers that.

  39. 39
    LC Timberwolf - Keeper of the Imperial Malinois growls and barks:

    I posted about this on the first thread, from a different perspective. I also think that the majority of LEOs and FLEAs nowadays are criminals of one sort or another. My retired cop buddies agree with me.

    I’ve posted on the Boston debacle in numerous places, with my focus being on statist tactics, antiConstitutional actions, and attempts at acceptance conditioning by the JBTs involved.

    At some point in their transition, every country that fell to the statists/collectivists experienced what we have already seen here over the years. So comparisons to Nazi Germany are not far fetched at all. We simply have the advantage of hindsight to show us a possible future.

    We’re also on a timeline with Weimar Germany, Zimbabwe, and Argentina in the economic sense, but that took a back seat this week.

    History always repeats itself with a twist, so I don’t understand why some refuse to admit it’s happening here.

    Oh, yeah. We’re protected by magic fairy dust and unicorns spraying Skittles outta their asses.

    Sorry, I forgot. Silly of me … :(

    With that, I’m done. Time to concentrate on the next assault on America. I’m sure it’s already happened, but I just haven’t read about it yet.

  40. 40
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    All I can say is that you all seem to be STUCK ON STUPID.
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  41. 41
    LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    I thought it was “bitter clingers?”


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