DeGette Fails to Learn First Rule of Holes

Which is, of course, to quit digging. We’re talking of course of Diane “Unreloadable Magazines” DeGette, who our very own LC Crunchie so expertly mocked not but a few days ago.

No, it’s not about her spokes-retard letting us all know that the learned representative didn’t actually mean to say “magazines” but “clips” when she talked about something that was impossible to reload (wait? You can’t reload a clip? Surprise to us!) which, on its face, is utterly ridiculously false as not a single one of the gun-grabbing useless cunts know the first thing about either, much less the differences between the two.

No, we’re talking about her relentless attempts to make a further idiot of herself by publishing, with help we’re sure, the following dreck at the Puffington Host, an outlet sufficiently immersed in Teh Stupid™ to still let her speak in public. Or maybe they’re just sadists in which case: Well played, very well played indeed.

As Congress prepares to consider legislation to address gun violence,

Actually, addressing actual gun violence, unless noting its existence is considered an address, is just about the only thing that the relentless attempts of Congress to nullify the Second Amendment have so far failed spectacularly to do.

this week was a disturbing reminder to those of us leading that fight that after all these years the gun lobby will rely on its playbook of personal destruction to viciously attack any supporter of common-sense gun safety legislation.

Did we just read a ProgNazi “everybody who disagrees with us is a racist, misogynist, child-molesting, extremist, terrorist mass-murderer because SHUT UP!” dimwit decry the use of personal destruction to discredit your ideological opponents? Did we? Oh sweet foot-tapping Jove, we believe that we did.


Never mind that you’re speaking out your twat, the only thing you’ve been met with so far is the simple factual observation that you’re about six dozen steps on the evolutionary ladder below paramecium, hearing somebody whine about being faced with the same tactics that their side has been using indiscriminately for a century is just so chock full of irony and delicious schadenfreude that we may just have wet ourself with laughter.

As I’ve learned in two decades of work on these issues,

You mean to suggest that you’ve actually learned something? Do tell.

the gun lobby will take every opportunity to intimidate, and to attempt to silence, anyone with the courage of conviction to stand up and fight to keep our families safe.

Our Imperial Panties are moistening at the sound of your singular courage in the face of mockery.

This week, the founder of the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners Association, Dudley Brown, told NPR that it was “time to hunt Democrats.” Brown, a leading voice against gun violence prevention, apparently sees nothing wrong with physically threatening the lives of members of the political party with whom he disagrees. It may be straight out of the playbook the gun lobby has used for decades, but that makes it no less outrageous.

Actually, it’s more out of the playbook of your side, who have made no attempts to hide the fact that they’d rather see everybody who disagrees with them dead. We all recall fondly how the unions repeatedly let your master, Ogabe, know how they were his army to command, just to name one example.

The one difference is that when our side, jokingly, says something like what Mr. Brown allegedly said, it’s easy to determine that it was a joke. Why? Because if we meant it, every single one of you fascist motherfuckers would be dead already. We have the training and the weapons. Your only protection is that we’re so damn reluctant in going off because otherwise… Keep that in mind.

Now the gun lobby has set its sights on me.

Man. You are a true monument to personal courage! Forget about the Ardennes, Valley Forge, Guadalcanal, D-Day, you name it. They all pale compared to your determination to stand up to personal mockery! We are not worthy!

Since my time in the Colorado state legislature 20 years ago, I have worked on gun safety issues. In 1998, I introduced my first bill to ban high-capacity magazines.

Or, as they’re known among the literate, “standard capacity magazines.”

My colleague Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (NY-4) and I have introduced a similar bill, the Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act, in this Congress.

And thus “high capacity magazines” became “large capacity ammunition feeding devices”. Do we the people pay you by the word, or are you just naturally ignorant?

We are working hard to include our bill in comprehensive gun safety legislation being considered now because, while we will never be able to stop every disturbed individual from going into a school or a movie theater or a shopping mall and shooting people, we can limit the number of rounds in a magazine and give the people in their sights a fighting chance.

By taking away their fighting chance, because… Oh fuck it, we don’t know.

Rather than debate me on the merits of this common-sense proposal, the gun lobby has decided to distort remarks I made at a recent forum in Denver to attack me personally.

“Distort” meaning, as is the usual case with ProgNazi Liberal Fascists, “quoting verbatim stupid remarks of a ProgNazi Liberal Fascist.”

After the forum, opponents of my bill intentionally mischaracterized one phrase from my remarks, spreading half-truths to mobilize their on-line allies.

They quoted you, word for word, from what blitheringly idiotic wordfucks tripped out of your pie hole, you dripping cunt. We mean, really? You were quoted from a publicly available video. Just how good of a “tactic” would that be if the quotes did not, in fact, correspond precisely with the driveling dumbfuckery that your addlebrained self regurgitated into the microphone?

And, moreover, every single site that we’ve seen mocking your mental deficiencies, including this one, have, along with their mockery, included the video itself or a direct link to it. Just how much of a fuck-for-brains liberal would you have to be to include proof that you’re “misrepresenting” somebody right alongside your “misrepresentation?”

This is what they do and what they have done for decades to distract the public conversation from the critical issue of reducing gun violence. And this week they employed these tactics to undermine my high-capacity magazine ban.

The gun lobby wants to divert the public’s attention from the fact that a high-capacity magazine ban would reduce the number of magazines in circulation, simply because they would no longer be available for lawful purchase. If Congress passed a high-capacity magazine ban, disturbed individuals like the Aurora shooter would not be able to purchase a 100-round magazine through a few clicks on a website, or buy a 30-round magazine at their local sporting goods store.

No. He’d have to do what every other criminal does. Get it the honest way by stealing it. Meanwhile, individuals not similarly inclined to disregard the laws of civilized society, we sometimes call them “law-abiding citizens” or “innocents”, the people that you purport to “protect”, would be left at a distinct disadvantage when facing their more thoroughly armed foes.

While those who currently own high-capacity magazines would be able to keep them and use them if they wished, they would not be able to purchase new high-capacity magazines. The availability of these assault magazines to criminals and the mentally ill would thus be greatly reduced over time.

“Assault magazines?”

While we’re at it, let’s introduce another equally retardedly ignorant term to the English language: Assault stupidity. You have it. In spades.

And whereas your argument, if it weren’t for the irritating tendency of reality to get in the way, might have merit inasmuch as the murderous swine in our midst would actually have to exercise 4th grade shop skills in order to manufacture higher capacity magazines and we’ll assume, for the sake of argument, that every murdering psychopath is as terminally dumb and inept as a ProgNazi Liberal Fascist, there are so many of those “assault magazines” in circulation right now and it takes only one maniac to start a massacre that it would take, quick estimate here, approximately until the death of the universe until there were so few of them left that one solitary determined psychopath couldn’t get his hands on one.

A high-capacity magazine ban will not stop an individual intent upon doing harm,

At which point every living organism with an IQ in double digits asks itself: “Then what’s the point?”

but would give those victims in their sights a fighting chance when the gunman has to stop and reload.

It would? Interesting that. Those victims would, of course, be people not willing to break your “common-sense” gun laws, so they clearly wouldn’t have access to the “assault magazines” that you’re so “common-sensically” fulminating against. Best case scenario, their fighting chance would be no different from the time when they had the same access that a criminal had.

As an Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) agent with whom I work frequently says, “a high-capacity magazine ban would go a long way to taking the ‘mass’ out of ‘mass shooting’.”

That would be the same ATF that is most well-known for having handed over a few thousand actual “assault weapons” (select fire weapons) to Mexican drug cartels, causing at least hundreds of innocent deaths, right? Well who are we to doubt the expertise of such unimpeachable defenders of all that is good and right?

That’s why this bill is so important and that’s why the gun lobby is fighting it so hard. As poll numbers continue to show strong public support for a high-capacity magazine ban,

Where, exactly? Link, please? Not that it matters. The Constitution at no point states that its provisions are contingent on the outcome of polls on MSNBC. If your public support is so massive, then how come that Harry “Child Molester (we heard it, so we don’t need to offer any proof)” Reid can’t find 40 votes among 55 Liberal Fascists to support it? What are they worried about?

The high-capacity magazine ban is a reasonable and common-sense step towards preventing these massacres.

Prove to us how it will in any way prevent massacres by people who don’t respect such bans in the first place and we might, might be able to have an intelligent discussion.

Once you evolve to sentience, that is.



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    NR Pax growls and barks:

    She has thrown away the shovel and brought in a bulldozer.

    Now I’m sure the gun users on this forum will be happy to set me straight if I’m wrong, but I’m quite sure that you can expel a used magazine and slam another one in place pretty darn quickly, yes? And if you are doing a mass shooting, you’re not going to worry about where the magazine drops, correct?

    And it really would be nice to see her get forced to answer (without contorting the English language) the question of how this will stop mass shootings.

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    LibraryGryffon growls and barks:

    I really, really wish there was a way to bring back some sort of an IQ test, better yet a test for common sense, or at least a civics test, as a requirement for voting and for holding office.

    I had someone, supposedly a 25 year military veteran try to tell me in the discussion on our local that we would have had fewer children and teachers killed in Sandy Hook if Lanza had had to use 15 magazines instead of the 8 to 10 he did. Because having to swap out magazines every 10 shots would have been at least 30 seconds he wasn’t able to shoot and anyway it’s easy to have something go wrong when reloading, and someone stopped the Gifford’s shooter while he was reloading. (Based his extra time calcuation on the time to change all 15 magazines, not the time to change the extra number over and above what he actually did.) I asked how in a situation where someone is firing at panicked children who aren’t exactly in a position to mount any sort of defense or to escape, that extra 2-3 seconds while he is changing magazines or weapons (due to a jam, malfunction, fumble, whatever), was going to change the ultimate death toll. Funny thing, I never got an answer….. :em03:

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    BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK) growls and barks:

    Fucking morons … the whole lot of them. In a sane, just world, they would be neutered and put on public display as village idiots.

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    OMG, Mish – I swear we share a brain!!!

    Take a look at my post on Friday! Even the title is the same!

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    The stupid is strong in this one. Perhaps someone should tell her about the breakthroughs in 3D printing? People will be able to make their own magazines. What will be their next “great idea?” Banning 3D printers?

    And as an aside, follow my link below, (Or here). Father Emil Kapaun, chaplain in the US Army during Korea, is being awarded the Medal Of Honor, and the Catholic Church s investigating him for possible sainthood.

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    When are we going to quit with the bullshit of refuting comments, such as those of this iditotic twunt, and begin addressing the real issue – that the halfrican wants to disarm the populace of the United States and bring in his UN police force buddies to keep us in line?


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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    I would be happy to give DeGette any help I could to get use of a Bagger 288, so she can keep digging.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Missing “Link” Degette,

    There is a thing called the Constitution. It has an associated Bill of Rights. Notice that it is called a Bill of Rights not a Bill of Needs. The second amendment is not there for sport hunting or target shooting. Its there for us to be able to hunt your skank ass down and kill you, if needed.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher says:

    I would be happy to give DeGette any help I could to get use of a Bagger 288, so she can keep digging.

    She would be very useful… as mulch. :em01:

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    FrankOK @ # 6: TADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There it is. Anyone with half a brain (oh, wait, nevermind) would recognize that it doesn’t make a tinkers damn how long it takes to swap magazines if no one in the target crowd might be able to then mount a viable defense. And then comes the question of our military being spread so thin throughout the world. How many are still here in country to defend the nation against foreign invasion? As can be demonstrated by our southern border, for example.
    Library Czar @ # 8: Exactly the reason they want to take them away.

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    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    LibraryGryffon @ #2:

    Totally agree, LG. To that I would add a third leg to the stool – that every adult earner in the U.S. should pay some amount of taxes (or forgo the right to vote as a conflict of interest). These three things taken together might cure a variety of ills.

    Given that the national average response time for police in the U.S., according to the FBI, is 9 minutes, and assuming a practiced shooter can expend a round every second, and that it might take five seconds to change a magazine (many on this site would be faster), it turns out that a shooter with 30 round mags could empty 15 of them in this time, and a shooter with 10 round mags could empty 36 of them. Meaning, as a practical matter, that they could expend all the ammo they could carry, regardless of the size of the magazine. Forget for a minute that there are so many 30 round magazines in circulation already that any one could own a hundred more by tomorrow if they wished, or that immediate countervailing force is the only reliable solution when faced with active violence.

    The fact that our elected representatives have conducted themselves with such utter disregard for facts and principles in this situation is, in my opinion, a crime against the people they were elected to serve.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Library Czar @ #:

    There is a thing called the Constitution.

    A mere scrap of paper. Horrifically flawed – it was drafted by slave-owning cracka-ass cracka members of the Phallocracy, you know.

    It has an associated Bill of Rights.

    An utterly meaningless cocktail napkin scribbling. Again, slave-owning white males. Per se evil and invalid.

    Notice that it is called a Bill of Rights not a Bill of Needs.

    Oh, my poor deluded peasant….There are no such things as “Rights.” Well, not for such low-born insects as you. I, and those like me, have a Divine Right to Rule, but that is the only Right that exists. No, what you peasants actually have is a Bill of Whatever We, Your Elites, Deign to Grant You, Subject to Rescission at Our Whim. It’s cute that you think otherwise, but that’s the reality of the situation.

    The second amendment is not there for sport hunting or target shooting.

    Why bless your heart, it isn’t there at all. If this “Second Amendment” actually existed, why, you peasants would be able to own any sort of weapon you wished, without any sort of licensing. You would be able to carry any sort of weapon you wished, wherever you wished to carry it. You would be able to hide, or “conceal” any weapon you wished on your person without any sort of licensing. And yet you cannot. Q.E.D.

    Its there for us to be able to hunt your skank ass down and kill you, if needed.

    Tsk-tsk. And yet none of you ever do. Yet more proof that it does not exist. And besides… there’s a dignity to royalty. A majesty that precludes the likelihood of assassination. If you were to point a pistol at one of us, your hands would shakes as though palsied…the sight of royalty would cause you to dismiss all thoughts of bloodshed and you would stand… how shall I put it? In awe. Now, a peasant like you… well, I mean… why should those of my ilk not have our Praetorians shoot a peasant?

    Now run along, young scamp. You’ve taxes to pay.

    -Diane DeGette

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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    When I was in the 3/187th Infantry, we would take our magazines and tape two together in a “69” so that when you emptied a mag, you merely hit the button to eject the mag, flipped it over and voila, 20 fresh rounds.
    She really sets new standards for stupidity, doesn’t she?

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Draco @ #:

    And never…NEVER bring this up….

    Well, obviously, that’s just plain rayciss.

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    rickn8or growls and barks:

    ” common-sense gun safety” must be this season’s buzzphrase.

    “If you’re opposed to my common-sense gun safety legislation, then you must think it’s OKAY to kill chill-dren!!”

    Sweet-cheeks, “gun-safety” is a lever on a firearm and 4 or more rules we follow.

    How can someone work aggressively for twenty years on something and wind up abysmally ignorant of the subject, or be able to articulate a statement about it? Ghad, what a whiney-butt!

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    Now the gun lobby has set its sights on me

    Poor widdle Puddin. Throws her dirty drawers in the air and does a Marilyn Monroe, then gets pissed because we highlighted the fact that she is proof that Evolution CAN go in reverse. :em05:

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    When I was in the 3/187th Infantry, we would take our magazines and tape two together in a “69? so that when you emptied a mag, you merely hit the button to eject the mag, flipped it over and voila, 20 fresh rounds.

    We were taught never to do this, as the lower mag might get a knock, and the feeder lip will jam. My tutor said keep the magazines separate and load as needed.

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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    @LCBrendan – I don’t know, it worked for 4 years for me from 1984-1988. Never had a problem once. Of course I had the normal problems of the Mattel Toy jamming and “tapping the forward assist” doesn’t do shit but there were quite a few operations when I was “flipping mags” with zero problem.

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    bruce growls and barks:

    i have listened to ass holes like this bitch all my life and they were all liars.when kennedy was shot by a traitor who was allowed to come home after deserting his post and joining our enemies.we got more gun control instead of traitor control and it did nothing to reduce crime.when i was in school we never had school shootings because the teachers were armed and the crazies were locked up.ted,the swimmer,kennedy and the aclu turned the crazies loose and the communist teachers union ended the armed teachers with predicable results. no gun control law has reduced crime. i was in the 2/502 1968 and i could change a mag in about 3 or 4 seconds and i had few problems will my m-16 that a quick rap,tap,bang didn’t had to keep your rifle and ammo clean,no clean no shoot especial with the early models because the army used ball powder instead of the cleaner burning flake powder and did not chrome the chamber which stoner told the army had to be done.

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    rickn8or growls and barks:

    …because the army used ball powder instead of the cleaner burning flake powder and did not chrome the chamber which stoner told the army had to be done.

    You can thank Mr. McNamara and his Whiz Kids for that. Hard-chroming the bore and chamber of the M-16 would have cost $1.23 per rifle. Mr. McNamara said “no.”

    More insidious perhaps was the decision to use ball rather than flake powder. Seems ball has a slower burn rate than flake and screws up the timing of the extraction cycle something fierce. Long story short, the bolt is trying to extract a case which is still blown out against the chamber walls, often ripping the case rim or the extractor merely jumping over it. Makes not a whole lot of difference, because the weapon has to be broken open and the case punched out with a (very hard-to-find) cleaning rod. Many fine young men died in Vietnam with their rifles broken open, trying to clear jams.

    If TPTB absolutely positively insisted on ball powder, it should have been restricted to ConUS training rounds only.

    Eugene Stoner was emphatic about both these points when he sold the rifle design, but McNamara was trying to run DoD like the Ford Motor Company.

    And Diana DeGette is still a cupid stunt.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    rickn8or @ #:

    You can thank Mr. McNamara and his Whiz Kids for that. Hard-chroming the bore and chamber of the M-16 would have cost $1.23 per rifle. Mr. McNamara said “no.”….Eugene Stoner was emphatic about both these points when he sold the rifle design, but McNamara was trying to run DoD like the Ford Motor Company.

    Top men with impeccable credentials and proper breeding made those decisions. Top. Men. Obviously, any failures were the fault of the plebians who misused the weapon.

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    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    “DeGette works for the NRA ,She is an undercover operative,Purposefully making the anti gun people out to be fools.It has to be true no one could be so misinformed and still be able to find their way out of the house”
    Even the leftist twats at Huff’n’Puff think DeGette is an idiot. Maybe the silly bitch ought to sit down and shut up. I thought she might ought to try the barefoot and pregnant route, but I really don’t want her to pass on the reinforced stupid gene with which she is so amply endowed.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:

    Top men with impeccable credentials and proper breeding made those decisions. Top. Men. Obviously, any failures were the fault of the plebians who misused the weapon.

    Outright traitors who should have been shot for their actions.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC Ogrrre @ #:

    DeGette works for the NRA. She is an undercover operative)
    And in new highs in leftist stupidity…
    A 76 year old man in Massachusetts decided not to be eaten by a bear and instead turns it into a rug. His reward? A DA who wants to put him in prison for life.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:12
    Man, the way you channel libtardism is just scary. :em06:

    watchyerlane says:

    She really sets new standards for stupidity, doesn’t she?

    As I mentioned somewhere else, she is a 55gal drum of concentrated Weapons Grade Stooopiid™.

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    Cougar1978 growls and barks:

    I know this libtard c#nt stain is a God awful sack of oful, but remember, we have worse. Think RINO Quisling Kenyan c@cksuckers like McLame, Graham-nesty, Chris Christie etc….

    Eight Repuke RINOs have told their constituents and US screw you, Lord Obama will give us plenty of incentive to vote his way….. How’s that moderate and safe crowd working for you? Certain proud RINOS (not here, but in certain ACOC areas are now mute.,,for now)

    8 Republicans HAVE STATED They will Support this. Here are the 8 Republicans :

    John McCain – Arizona (202) 224-2235

    Kelly Ayotte – New Hampshire 202-224-3324

    Jeff Flake – Arizona (202) 224-4521
    (this is the freshman just Elected – I TOLD YOU ABOUT HIM )

    Johnny Isakson – Georgia (202) 224-3643

    TOM COBURN – OKLAHOMA – He negotiated Background Checks 202-224-5754

    Dean Heller – Nevada 202-224-6244

    Susan Collins – Maine (202) 224-2523

    Lindsey Graham – South Carolina (202) 224-5972

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    Toomey. Worked out a deal with Manchin to enhance background checks. Pretends to be a conservative, gets into Senate, channels Arlen Specter.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    But our betrayals go to eleven!

    – Sen. Pat Tufnel-Toomey, (R-PA).