Obama’s death panels at work: woman deliberately left to die

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Callous bastards

Whoever that nurse is, I hope she has a good lawyer, because she is going to fucking well need one.

AN elderly woman who collapsed at a US aged care home has died after a staff member refused to perform CPR because it was against the facility’s policy. Local media reports say when the 86-year-old resident of Glenwood Gardens in Bakersfield, California, collapsed at the facility around 11am Tuesday a staff member called 911, but refused to give the woman CPR.

The Los Angeles Times reports that in refusing the 911 dispatcher’s insistence that she perform CPR, the nurse can also be heard telling the dispatcher that it was against the retirement facility’s policy to perform CPR. In the dramatic 911 call, Bakersfield fire dispatcher Tracey Halvorson can be heard pleading with the nurse to start CPR on the elderly woman. “It’s a human being,” Halvorson said. “Is there anybody that’s willing to help this lady and not let her die?”

Silence.”Um, not at this time.”Halvorson continues begging the nurse to begin CPR or to find a passerby or anyone who would be willing to help. “I understand if your facility is not willing to do that,” Halvorson told the nurse. “Give the phone to that passerby, that stranger…this woman’s not breathing enough.”She’s going to die if we don’t get this started.… I don’t understand why you’re not willing to help this patient.”

The nurse is then heard talking to someone else at the facility.”She’s yelling at me,” she said of Halvorson, “and saying we have to have one of our residents perform CPR. I’m feeling stressed, and I’m not going to do that, make that call.” An ambulance arrived several minutes after the call and took the woman to a hospital, where she was later pronounced dead.

The retirement facility released a statement saying protocol was followed, but that a “thorough internal review of the matter” would be conducted.

Take careful note of the name of that place and its location….and tell everyone and anyone you know to make sure none of their loved ones ever wind up in their hands.

23 comments

  1. 1
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    I solemnly pledge myself before God and in the presence of this assembly, to pass my life in purity and to practice my profession faithfully. I will abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous, and will not take or knowingly administer any harmful drug. I will do all in my power to maintain and elevate the standard of my profession, and will hold in confidence all personal matters committed to my keeping and all family affairs coming to my knowledge in the practice of my calling. With loyalty will I endeavor to aid the physician, in his work, and devote myself to the welfare of those committed to my care.

    I name thee Oathbreaker, I name thee without honour or grace, and I turn my back on thee, that thou’st may know that thou art betrayer of thy oath and calling beyond all redemption.

  2. 2
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    They will do nothing…. NOTHING. They’ve done the cost/benefit analysis and they’ve determined that paying the lawyers to bail them out is lesser cost over time then sticking their precious little necks out and saving a human being.

    She was just folloving ordez.

    Ten years ago she would have been crucified. Now she’ll be made out to be the victim. Bet me

  3. 3
    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    The dead lady’s daughter is a nurse, and according to what I have read/herard the daughter says she has no problems with the care that her mother is (was!) receiving… I smell something wrong.
    We have gotten too scared of the law and the lawyers when we let an elderly woman die and don’t do anything. Are the sheepdogs getting too few and far between?

    She was just folloving ordez.

    Screw that noise, I’m giving CPR, and if you try to stop me you’ll be lying on the ground with a broken kneecap.

    Flor-i-duh. The same state that suspends a HS student for taking the gun away from another student that was trying to shoot somebody on the bus. Maybe the Principal expected the first student to whip out an ink pen and threaten the kid holding the gun? That Principal has shown an utter lack of thinking whatsoever and needs to be shown the door…

    Y’know, Texas is looking a lot more attractive all the time (as long as I avoid Austin…). :em03:

  4. 4
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    The nurse and everyone up the chain of command responsible for the “protocol” should be given a choice of impalement on a blunt stake or crucifixion. They need time and the motivation of unspeakable agony to understand the error of their ways before being allowed to die.

  5. 5
    LC Old Dog growls and barks:

    In AZ it is illegal for a caregiver to not do everything possible unless the patient has a signed DNR (Do No Resuscitate) order on file! And that DNR has to be signed by the Patient!

    No family member or Doctor can sign a valid DNR.
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  6. 6
    0007 growls and barks:

    Follow the money…in this case how much the old lady had and who gets it when she dies(the “daughter”?), ya think?

  7. 7
    0007 growls and barks:

    Follow the money…in this case what’s the estate worth and who inherits(the “daughter”? maybe).

  8. 8
    LibraryGryffon growls and barks:

    I wonder if all the residents and/or their families know about this place’s policy. Or does Glenwood Gardens require everyone who lives there to have a DNR? Though if they did, you’d think this “nurse” would know that, and have explained it to 911. And if CPR is against the facility’s policies, why did they bother calling 911?

    All in all, sounds like these folks will fit right in to the Brave New World of Obamacare…
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  9. 9
    LC Gregory growls and barks:

    Okay – I have to be the voice of opposition here. First time for everything, I suppose.

    This is a Private facility. As one who worked at an Assisted Living home during my grandmother’s final months there, I can assure you – the more likely practice is to leave the resident alive and running up fees for as long as possible rather than allow to die.

    Unless, that is, if there is a valid DNR order.

    Death Panels? No way, not here. There’s no money being SAVED, unless this place had a waitlist a mile long to get in; every dead resident means a loss of income, even if for only as long as it takes to clean out the room and get it ready for the next one. Hint – it’s a lot more time and work than for a hotel room. Only if the woman was on MedicAID and therefore being charged a lower rate would there be any kind of saving, but since homes only have a very small, limited set number of Medicaid beds, she would be replaced with another Medicaid resident. It’s also not simply in response to some policy to prevent the staff from being held liable (there is such a thing as a “Wrongful Life” claim, and CPR has been known to cause injuries even when properly performed), because the woman who refused to help was a NURSE, not merely a minimum-wage caregiver, and as such is legally bound to help despite any sort of policy – again, unless there was a DNR order.

    My gut feeling here, as one who knows both law, the media, and the nursing-home culture, is that the news account is leaving out a DNR in order to sensationalize the story.

    I hate being the odd man out. Can we bash Obama now?

  10. 10
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    O/, but why does DHS need all this?

    Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile
    Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, March 3, 2013, 9:55 PM

    This is getting a little creepy.
    According to one estimate, since last year the Department of Homeland Security has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm.
    DHS also purchased 2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAP).
    Modern Survival Blog reported:

    The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

    Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

    The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization. Under the Navistar umbrella are several other companies including International Trucks, IC Bus (they make school buses), Monaco RV (recreational vehicles), WorkHorse (they make chassis), MaxxForce (diesel engines), and Navistar Financial (the money arm of the company).

    DHS even released a video on their newly purchased MRAPs.
    Via Pat Dollard:

    The MRAP featured in this video is was in Albuquerque, New Mexico for Law Enforcement Day which was held at a local area Target Store. This MRAP is stationed in El Paso, Texas at The Homeland Security Investigations Office. MRAP is a Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicle.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/obama-dhs-purchases-2700-light-armored-tanks-to-go-with-their-1-6-billion-bullet-stockpile/

  11. 11
    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    I have written a letter to the local paper asking them to comment on this..
    Run them out of business…start with firings………
    As for that gutless bitch, for I would have lost my job rather than not try……….
    She’ll need more than a lawyer…say a bodyguard…………..
    Public scorn and hatred……………turn up the heat.

  12. 12
    L.C. Mope growls and barks:

    LC Gregory @ 7

    My gut feeling here… is that the news account is leaving out a DNR in order to sensationalize the story.

    I have to concur with that. My little brother was in one of these facilities up until 2 months ago. There was no hope of recovery. Why prolong the agony? He knew the program going in-it was his choice.

    There does seem to be a miscommunication between the staff and the 911 operator, tho.

    I also knew a Iwo vet who was lying on his deathbed in a VA hospital when in walked his son to cheer him up. He screamed “I was almost there! Why did you have to bother me?” That tough old bird died a couple days later and they sent a five member honor guard from the Marine Corp barracks named after the MoH (McCarthy) recipient he had fought under at Iwo.

    Heh. He did 30 days bread and water on the troop ship to Iwo for stabbing his sergeant. He used to laugh about how they had to remove the band equipment from the brig to put him in. As for the sergeant, he used to say he probably saved his live!

  13. 13
    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    You don’t call 911 for a DNR. What a re the paramedics going to do? Stand around drinking coffee and wait for the patient to die? With a DNR you make the patient comfortable until they expire, then have a doctor certify the death and call the funeral home.

    The only reason to call 911 for a DNR is to get the body out of your facility so it doesn’t go on your record as a death in your care.

  14. 14
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Having been the medical director of a nursing facility, there are some things here that don’t add up.

    First, I’m not certain that the “nurse” was in fact a licensee. Glenwood Gardens is listed as having both “assisted living” and skilled nursing services. If this occurred on the assisted living side, the “nurse” may have been someone with no CPR training. She may not even have been a certified nursing assistant.

    Second, I’ve never heard of a skilled nursing facility where CPR is against facility policy. That would open wide the door for civil liability to the degree that no one with a license could work there: A medical or nursing license creates an obligation to intervene in a medical emergency. This is not relieved by a “company policy.”

    This whole thing sounds like more LA Times bullshit.

  15. 15
    MikeG growls and barks:

    Just got done teaching a CPR class on Saturday. This topic actually came up for discussion. If you have the ability to perform CPR and chose not to, are you legally liable? Legally maybe not. Your state’s law might differ. Morally is another story. Especially in a situation like this where it is your freakin JOB to see to the health and safety of this woman.

    The DNR order is another issue. Not only does it have to be on file, as an EMT I need to SEE the paper or it doesn’t exist in my world. Being an elderly person, the odds of her surviving this even with CPR are not good, but they are far better than the treatment she got…or didn’t get.

  16. 16
    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    Something does not add up here.

    We’re not getting the whole story.

    And, to be honest, I can understand the person’s reluctance. I’d be reluctant to flush my entire career in this situation, -as it has been described-.

    THat being said, I’d probably give CPR, and lie about it.

    “what, me? no, that’s against policy, it must have been Elvis.”

  17. 17
    LC Draco growls and barks:

    In Texas, we have the “Good Samaritan Law”.

    What I found interesting, after listening to the 911 call, is that the manager said the woman was aware of the no CPR policy at the home. So they just didn’t perform it.
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  18. 18
    Crustyrusty growls and barks:

    Something stinks about this whole thing, although the requirements for CPR certification might be different in an assisted living facility. If you work in an intermediate or skilled care facility, your staff had better be current on their CPR certification.

    As far as the discussion about DNR orders goes, a DNR order is in fact an order given by the MD to other healthcare personnel, after the resident or POA gives consent. Standard procedure for the medics is that they code everyone unless the paper is produced.

    And “Do Not Resuscitate” doesn’t mean “Do Not Treat”. It only applies if you find the patient dead. If they ain’t dead yet, you treat them.
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  19. 19
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Crustyrusty @ #18:

    The qualifications for working in an assisted living facility generally extend to whether they can find a set of scrubs that fit. Years ago, I used to round in an assisted living. It was not uncommon for patients to have their pain medications stolen by staff and it would drive me crazy to see some high school kid in scrubs referred to as “nurse.”

    I gave up on the whole business when the facility director demanded that I prescribe a sleeping pill to one of my patients on a scheduled basis. She kept telling me that the state didn’t allow orders for medications to be administered at the patient’s request. (In other words, the patient was to receive a scheduled sleeping pill so that she wouldn’t bother the night staff.) That being utter bullshit, I turned them in to Senior Protective Services and had them investigated for chemically restraining my patient.

    No charges were filed and the patient’s POA moved her to a different facility. Needless to say, I became persona non grata at the assisted living, which suited me just fine. My patient stayed with me and we had a lot of good visits until she died a couple of years ago.

    A word to the wise: If you ever contemplate using an assisted living facility, talk it over with a physician who’s had to deal with them.

  20. 20
    LibraryGryffon growls and barks:

    I was just reading today’s Daily Briefing from The Advisory Board Company (I work in a hospital), and it discusses this case, and specifically states that the woman who collapsed did NOT have a DNR.
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  21. 21
    bruce growls and barks:

    my mother lived in one of those places until she became terminal at which point we moved her to my sisters home where she passed surrounded by family who loved her.

  22. 22
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    And the full story emerges.

    To summarize:

    1) The patient lived in an “independent living” unit, not a nursing home,

    2) The patient’s family states that the patient did not want life-saving interventions,

    3) The “nurse” was apparently a resident services director, not a licensee,

    4) The family has no intention of pursuing legal action. Their grief appears to have been compounded by media attention given to this matter.

    My only question at this point is whether releasing the recording of the 911 call violated patient privacy under the law. It was certainly unethical and caused further distress to an aggrieved family.

    I lay blame at the feet of the police agency that released what should have been confidential information and a vile media that turned what should have been a death with dignity into a national spectacle.

  23. 23
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    2) The patient’s family states that the patient did not want life-saving interventions,

    Wait..what?

    Bakersfield fire officials who responded said Bayless did not have a “do not resuscitate” order on file at the home. The family and the company have not commented.

    and this? They didnt comment?

    “It was our beloved mother and grandmother’s wish to die naturally and without any kind of life prolonging intervention,” the family said. “We understand that the 911 tape of this event has caused concern, but our family knows that mom had full knowledge of the limitations of Glenwood Gardens and is at peace.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/05/spokesman-says-woman-who-refused-to-give-cpr-to-dying-87-year-old-wasnt-nurse/#ixzz2MtMEP8Bt