Biden advises women

To follow up on the most awesome thread Lady M-ITT – of  Imperial Sniper Fame just posted…Another Democrat, no other than the highly esteemed (in the fever swamps of D.C. that is) VP himself gives out his sage advice to women on self defense….I guess at least Joe is not telling them to bite the fuckers and then blow their ear drums out with a whistle….thank god for small miracles and all that.

*edit* A H/T  also to LC CHeapshot911 I missed his comment on this – My apologies.

Joe Biden has told women – “Buy a shot gun”

In a Facebook town hall hosted by Parents magazine, vice president Joe Biden responded to a woman concerned that bans on various weapons may make law-abiding citizens more susceptible to criminals with the following advice: “If you want to protect yourself, get a double-barreled shotgun.” “You don’t need an AR-15, it’s harder to aim, it’s harder to use,” he stressed.

His argument being – not 100% incorrect, that a shot gun is easier to use than say an AR-15 –  it’s Just 99% incorrect – but we gotta give Hairplugs credit when credit is due ya know.

Now before I get clue-batted about the validity of shot guns vs. other firearms for home defense  –  I’m of the school of thought that there is quite nothing in this world that would strike fear into the hearts of a would be goblin in the dead of night as a .12 Gauge making that oh so lovely KER-CHUNK sound as a shell finds it’s way into a chamber… I keep one on hand for just such fun and wholesome activities…But I’m a fairly big guy at 6 foot and 220ish. None the less, last time I actually used a .12 Gauge on a Deer hunting trip – firing Magnum 3.5 inch rounds – let me tell you, that sort of firearm packs a hell of a whack factor. And I know how to handle and shoot one.

So – Joe says buy a shotgun – what about the 5 foot nothing 100lbs soaking wet ( get yer minds out of the gutter – damn it!! ) wife that has to handle her hubbies .12 gauge pump loaded with buck shot in a kill or be killed situation Joe?

She going to be able to handle the whack factor of that weapon? Maybe…but I’m thinking she’s going to most likely wind up on her little fanny with a bruised shoulder – and let’s hope the bad guy is busy holding his guts in  with both hands. Because if she missed – if she fired too early maybe – or pulled off target with anticipating the recoil perhaps, or G-d forbid there’s more than one goblin –  shes a dead duck now…

Then to go one level of The Stoopid  better Joe says – step out to your balcony and let the lead fly….

“If there’s ever a problem,” Biden said he told his wife Jill, “just walk out on the balcony here–walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house”

Presumably this is to scare the goblins off …or something? Really Joe? I don’t quite get that part of your argument since I generally DO seem to have such a hard time understanding The Stoopid you come up with ….but you might want to check that advice there pal cuz last time I looked, you do that in almost ANY city – and you’re probably going to jail – castle laws be damned – because you’re not meeting the criteria for taking a shot in self defense – and you’ve just discharge a weapon inside the city limits. Oooops.

We won’t even delve into the glaring fact that you’re violating one of the cardinal rules of firearms –  to never fire at anything you DON’T INTEND TO SHOOT….proving you don’t know shit about weapons and the safe use of them ….and probably should be banned from owning one until such time you do master the basics…But until then Joe, kindly shut up, you hair plug wearing butt snorkeling moron.

Meanwhile I guess since you mentioned this is a Double Barrel, which makes your advice even more comical  – the goblins are probably really pissed – they sometimes get that way when you ‘punk them’ and if they didn’t run away – you’re now scrambling to reload under combat pressure – while they come barging through your door. Great.  I guess you could always use the now worthless firearm and clue bat the fuckers to death…. Sorta like we do you…huh Joe?


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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Columbine Survivor Pens Bold Open Letter to Obama Rejecting Gun Control: ‘Whose Side Are You On?’
    Feb. 20, 2013 10:10am Billy Hallowell

    Columbine survivor Evan Todd released an open letter to President Barack Obama on Wednesday in which he offers a point-by-point analysis of proposed firearms control initiatives, dismissing them as ineffective and dangerous to Americans’ rights.

    He recently outlined why he fervently disagrees with the gun control policies that have been proposed in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. TheBlaze interviewed Todd earlier this week and subsequently detailed how his experience being shot back in 1999 has shaped his views on the issue.

    The letter, which speaks directly to the president, covers a number of key facets in the gun control debate. On universal background checks, Todd expresses his fears that “universal registration can easily be used for universal confiscation.” Additionally, he says his belief that assault weapons bans are ineffective and argues that the first law did little to stop violence when it was in effect from 1994 until 2004; he cites Columbine as a prime example.

    “It was during this time that I personally witnessed two fellow students murder twelve of my classmates and one teacher,” he writes. “The assault weapons ban did not deter these two murderers, nor did the other thirty-something laws that they broke.”
    Columbine Survivor Even Todd Rejects Obamas Gun Control Initiatives in Open Letter

    President Barack Obama uses a cell phone to call supporters during a visit to a local campaign office, Monday, Oct. 1, 2012 in Henderson, Nev. Credit: AP

    Of particular note in the letter is the survivor’s insistence that Obama’s proposed regulations impede the rights of Americans and endanger them by capping magazine sizes and restricting the types of guns that are available to law-abiding citizens.

    “Why would you prefer criminals to have the ability to out-gun law-abiding citizens?,” he asks the president in the text. “Whose side are you on?”

    Mr. President,

    As a student who was shot and wounded during the Columbine massacre, I have a few thoughts on the current gun debate. In regards to your gun control initiatives:

    Universal Background Checks

    First, a universal background check will have many devastating effects. It will arguably have the opposite impact of what you propose. If adopted, criminals will know that they can not pass a background check legally, so they will resort to other avenues. With the conditions being set by this initiative, it will create a large black market for weapons and will support more criminal activity and funnel additional money into the hands of thugs, criminals, and people who will do harm to American citizens.

    Second, universal background checks will create a huge bureaucracy that will cost an enormous amount of tax payers dollars and will straddle us with more debt. We cannot afford it now, let alone create another function of government that will have a huge monthly bill attached to it.

    Third, is a universal background check system possible without universal gun registration? If so, please define it for us. Universal registration can easily be used for universal confiscation. I am not at all implying that you, sir, would try such a measure, but we do need to think about our actions through the lens of time.

    It is not impossible to think that a tyrant, to the likes of Mao, Castro, Che, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and others, could possibly rise to power in America. It could be five, ten, twenty, or one hundred years from now — but future generations have the natural right to protect themselves from tyrannical government just as much as we currently do. It is safe to assume that this liberty that our forefathers secured has been a thorn in the side of would-be tyrants ever since the Second Amendment was adopted.

    Ban on Military-Style Assault Weapons

    The evidence is very clear pertaining to the inadequacies of the assault weapons ban. It had little to no effect when it was in place from 1994 until 2004. It was during this time that I personally witnessed two fellow students murder twelve of my classmates and one teacher. The assault weapons ban did not deter these two murderers, nor did the other thirty-something laws that they broke.

    Gun ownership is at an all time high. And although tragedies like Columbine and Newtown are exploited by ideologues and special-interest lobbying groups, crime is at an all time low. The people have spoken. Gun store shelves have been emptied. Gun shows are breaking attendance records. Gun manufacturers are sold out and back ordered. Shortages on ammo and firearms are countrywide. The American people have spoken and are telling you that our Second Amendment shall not be infringed.

    10-Round Limit for Magazines

    Virginia Tech was the site of the deadliest school shooting in U.S. history. Seung-Hui Cho used two of the smallest caliber hand guns manufactured and a handful of ten round magazines. There are no substantial facts that prove that limited magazines would make any difference at all.
    Second, this is just another law that endangers law-abiding citizens. I’ve heard you ask, “why does someone need 30 bullets to kill a deer?”

    Let me ask you this: Why would you prefer criminals to have the ability to out-gun law-abiding citizens? Under this policy, criminals will still have their 30-round magazines, but the average American will not. Whose side are you on?

    Lastly, when did they government get into the business of regulating “needs?” This is yet another example of government overreaching and straying from its intended purpose.

    Selling to Criminals

    Mr. President, these are your words: “And finally, Congress needs to help, rather than hinder, law enforcement as it does its job. We should get tougher on people who buy guns with the express purpose of turning around and selling them to criminals. And we should severely punish anybody who helps them do this.”

    Why don’t we start with Eric Holder and thoroughly investigate the Fast and Furious program?

    Furthermore, the vast majority of these mass murderers bought their weapons legally and jumped through all the hoops — because they were determined to murder. Adding more hoops and red tape will not stop these types of people. It doesn’t now — so what makes you think it will in the future? Criminals who cannot buy guns legally just resort to the black market.

    Criminals and murderers will always find a way.

    Mr. President, in theory, your initiatives and proposals sound warm and fuzzy — but in reality they are far from what we need. Your initiatives seem to punish law-abiding American citizens and enable the murderers, thugs, and other lowlifes who wish to do harm to others.

    Let me be clear: These ideas are the worst possible initiatives if you seriously care about saving lives and also upholding your oath of office. There is no dictate, law, or regulation that will stop bad things from happening — and you know that. Yet you continue to push the rhetoric. Why?

    You said, “If we can save just one person it is worth it.” Well here are a few ideas that will save more that one individual:

    First, forget all of your current initiatives and 23 purposed executive orders. They will do nothing more than impede law-abiding citizens and breach the intent of the Constitution. Each initiative steals freedom, grants more power to an already-overreaching government, and empowers and enables criminals to run amok.

    Second, press Congress to repeal the “Gun Free Zone Act.” Don’t allow America’s teachers and students to be endangered one-day more. These parents and teachers have the natural right to defend themselves and not be looked at as criminals. There is no reason teachers must disarm themselves to perform their jobs. There is also no reason a parent or volunteer should be disarmed when they cross the school line.

    This is your chance to correct history and restore liberty. This simple act of restoring freedom will deter would-be murderers and for those who try, they will be met with resistance.

    Mr. President, do the right thing, restore freedom, and save lives. Show the American people that you stand with them and not with thugs and criminals.


    Severely Concerned Citizen, Evan M. Todd

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:


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    Someone needs to put Joe back in his Happy Room with his crayons and blunt scissors. You would think they would stop letting him out, considering every time he opens his mouth he sticks half of the Federal Gubmint’s Birkenstocks in.

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    Choochoo Joe is Ogabe’s life insurance policy. And to think this dumb ass once got into an argument with a guy that his IQ was higher.

    Yup, a guy who tells his wife to recklessly discharge a double barrel hawgs leg at a bump in the night is going to decide what kind of gun I can be “trusted” with.

    I better his wife’s SS detail just loves that piece of advice.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Why don’t we start with Eric Holder and thoroughly investigate the Fast and Furious program?

    Ouch, thats going to leave a mark.

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    In a related item, Vice-President Biden has ordered the Secret Service Presidential Protection Unit to replace their M4s in favor of Browning Citori shotguns…

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    A double-barrel 20 gauge wouldn’t be a bad choice of shotgun for most women, actually. Not exactly ideal, but a safe pick.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    LC 0311 Sir Crunchie I.M.H., K.o.E.:

    Choochoo Joe is Ogabe’s life insurance policy.

    Not a very good one. I’d much rather lose Obi-Wrong & get the Delaware Clown than have to put up with Der Fubar till 2017.

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    imtay1970 growls and barks:

    Um, if they haven’t made entry to the home yet, you’re saying that I should try to get out side (where they are) so I can fire off a warning shot. That’s what you’re actually fucking suggesting I do?…and what if the jackals are already in the house, hmmmm? Do I elbow my way past them to get outside to fire the warning shot, then look out as they will come barreling out the door, past me and into the night? Hairplugs, your brilliance baffles me!

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    Whatever works Imtay, just be sure to rain pellets on your neighbors,, that’ll show ’em!

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    US News has an article up on Biden’s “advice” (featuring qualified legal opinion):

    (Of note, the Biden’s house is near a school.)

    What do you say to a Delaware lawyer with an IQ of 40?

    Good morning, Mr. Vice-President.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech @ #:

    just be sure to rain pellets on your neighbors,, that’ll show ‘em!

    Works for me.
    – Dick Cheney

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    Mark12A growls and barks:

    Hairplugs is an uber-idiot, for sure, but my G3 is not my first choice for when I hear something go bump in the night. My 12 ga Remington 870 loaded with #4 is where I can grab it. While one of my fellow officers shot some asshole up with this ammunition and he walked away (less a huge chunk of his junk…interesting story) because of a heavy leather coat, I still prefer it against t-shirt wearing scumbags and it won’t over-penetrated like a .308 round may.

    But the G3 is still convenient, with a 20 round mag loaded, for OTHER threats. Remarkably, even though the scary black rifle has been loaded, it has not shot anyone on its own…

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