Pay Attention, Would-Be Tyrants

Just a very few words to add to Light29ID’s great post about that swine Dorner, as it appears that some people might misunderstand the post as an endorsement of the murderous rabid dog psychopath, which it is most definitely not. I very much doubt that anybody around here would feel anything if they caught the dishonorable subhuman sack of shit in their scopes.

Except for recoil, of course.

However, there is no doubt that his frightening level of success in creating mayhem against severe odds sends a clear message to would-be tyrants about just what they might be facing, should they decide to commit some actual crime against citizens’ rights, as opposed to a firing which, last I checked in the Normal People’s Code of Behavior™, was not grounds for going apeshit on innocents.

One can only hope that those secretly or not so secretly dreaming of transforming our proud nation into a dictatorship by violating our unalienable rights are paying attention. It would surely save us all a lot of grief.

Thatisall.

UPDATE: LCBrendan:

Cabin has burned to the ground, charred body inside, DNA testing to be done, suspected that Dorner was inside and the body is his. More later.

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LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

My Thoughts exactly when I said much the same IRT Dorner : Dorner – rabid as he is should serve as a warning to every legislator in the country that – things aren’t as much in your control as you might think. Your million dollar Police Department budgets, your anti- crime initiatives, your gun grabs, your attempt to control it… Read more »

Many thanks My Liege

bruce
bruce

they la cops are zeroing in on him but first they have to practice on two old ladies delivering news papers in a blue truck but the la cops ignored the front sight than sprayed&prayed hitting the women, houses and other cars.of course it must be the woman’s fault because cops never shoot the wrong people or innocent by standers… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Beleve me your Highness… me and mine are keenly aware of how vulnerable our self-anointed rulers are. Where things can go off the rails is the fact that THEY might not understand how shaky their position is… and they may “act” from a mistaken position of strength… and God help all of us in what prudently follows as the response… Read more »

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

Washington Times is reporting this guy is in a gun battle with the police 2 officers shot…no word on Dorner ….

Dorner in gun battle with Cops Somewhere in San Bernardino Mountains

LC Draco
LC Draco

Apparently boarded up in a cabin I have said it before and it bears repeating, although most Rotties KNOW there are those of us with ‘certain skill sets’. How do you think a single 12-man SF team would be hunted in a foreign country? The Russian’s Army doctrine was to assign at least an Infantry Regiment (about 5000 men) to… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Bruce: siddown and shuddup. He assaulted two people, tied them up after he burgled their home, tried to steal a pickup truck..and the death toll is now 4, after he shot and killed a deputy during the firefight. Another family will get a knock at the door, another load of grief and mourning for the life of a young man… Read more »

VonZorch Imperial Researcher
VonZorch Imperial Researcher

LCBrendan @ #: 7 Nobody here is glorifying the pile of Obama shit, he is however very much an example of how one person willing to act ruthlessly can cause a very disproportionate amount of havoc. LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder @ #: 5 LC Draco @ #: 6 Never accept that your enemy is dead until you have pissed on… Read more »

LC Old Dog
LC Old Dog

The only thing this worthless waste of skin has proved is how the Vaunted SoCal cops respond to 4GW threats. The two “Shoot First, ask questions Later’ incidents speak reams about their reactions.

Yet according to gun grabbers the threat is untrained civilians shooting randomly!

Pardon me while I lose my dinner! :em04:

LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.

HEAR! HEAR!! I can understand the distaste for the LAPD, which often seems like one of the most disfunctional departments in the country, with a stench surpassed perhaps only in the Crescent City. But let us remember, Mr. BroJangles Unhinged, used to be an LA cop himself. And bad enough they evidently fired him. Were the allegations made in his… Read more »

Radical Redneck
Radical Redneck

Check out Kayinsane (Kim W.). She went on television to spew that the free market is destroying the world. She manages to be far more understated than her demented blog, but the moonbattery still screams loud and clear.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid35031947001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAACC1lJjE~,eO0k1bjplev7hHfUUYFU18RDQIpJKzMJ&bctid=1194732824001

Radical Redneck @ #:

Sorry RR, I just ate and puking is not on my list of things to do tonight

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

VonZorch Imperial Researcher says: Nobody here is glorifying the pile of Obama shit, he is however very much an example of how one person willing to act ruthlessly can cause a very disproportionate amount of havoc. just like David Koresh at Waco. Anyone who did not see the end of this coming, I want some of what you’re smoking…..This is… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

I think everyone knew how this would end. This is a classic case of evil on evil. The Ouroboros brought to life.. More importantly, what this does is utterly shatter the illusions of infallibility and invulnerability enjoyed and propagated by some very corrupt enforcers and the federal government that feeds them. The cops behaved just as bad as Dorner –… Read more »

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

LCBrendan @ #:7 LCBrendan You are taking my words the wrong way here – I don’t think calling someone “rabid” is in any way shape or form “glorifying” them. And I am not. In fact if you read the rest of my blog entry, which I should have included, but didn’t mostly to avoid pimping my writing on another site… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

@LC CiSSnarl5.7 Understood and accepted. Re the other site, I as part of the staff have absolutely NO ISSUE.with you posting and linking your blog for the full story. Feel free to crosslink additional info anytime you like. From what I saw in that one article, I have GOT to see more of your work 🙂 Link away and thanks… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

and I pray they get him before anyone else gets hurt

Too late. He shot and killed a deputy. Four so far. 🙁

bruce
bruce

shut the fuck up your self Brendan just because he shot a cop does not give them the right to shoot a couple of old ladies but you would be singing a different tune if that was your mother they shot.

LCBren
LCBren

shut the fuck up your self Brendan just because he shot a cop does not give them the right to shoot a couple of old ladies but you would be singing a different tune if that was your mother they shot.

Bruce old boy… I have been looking for a post or thread where you made sense.

Still looking. Still waiting.

LCBren
LCBren

http://www.news.com.au/world/ex-cop-christopher-dorner-in-police-shoot-out/story-fndir2ev-1226576711073

POLICE have found charred remains in the burnt-out cabin used by fugitive ex-cop Christopher Dorner.San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller told AP said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin. Investigators will use forensic tests to determine if the body belongs to Christopher Dorner.

TheRoyalFamily
TheRoyalFamily

He’s crushed whatever shreds of credibility and legitimacy the LAPD had.

Not just the LAPD. LA is big, but a whole mountain 50 miles away from LA was locked down. This one guy had the entire police forces of SoCal pissing their pants and screwing up royally in almost every way.

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

UPDATE: LCBrendan: Cabin has burned to the ground, charred body inside, DNA testing to be done, suspected that Dorner was inside and the body is his. More later. This guys a pro. Wanna bet he killed somebody and put the body in the cabin while he ( Dorner) escaped. BTW, the media is reporting the POLICE started the fire to… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

LC Gladiator says: UPDATE: LCBrendan: Cabin has burned to the ground, charred body inside, DNA testing to be done, suspected that Dorner was inside and the body is his. More later. This guys a pro. Wanna bet he killed somebody and put the body in the cabin while he ( Dorner) escaped. BTW, the media is reporting the POLICE started… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Bob Owens is saying at his site that the cops did indeed deliberately set the fire – he was listening to a scanner from his article.

Amen to that, Misha… I have wondered also…how much economic damage did this inflict?

bruce
bruce

fuck you Brendan now does that make sense to you and the cops shot 5 people who had nothing to do with the insane killer but i guess that’s OK with you because your relatives are cops?

bruce
bruce

Brendan the nyc cops shoot 9 innocent by standers but I bet you think they are good cops.

bruce
bruce

how about the 3 band members your cop buddies shoot who were in a van and not a blue pick up.i bet it was the victim’s fault all 5 of them.

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician says:

I, like most if not all, do not support exactly what he did. But it does show an example of how it can be done.

a mini waco

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Calm thyself Bruce. Everyone here is largely on the same page on the big things. I have not seen Brendan justifying anything the LAPD has done to the innocents in all of this. He simply wants to make sure nobody glorifies Shitbag as a hero. A hero he ain’t. More like a walking teachable moment and Misha, Light, Gladiator, and… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

BTW, the media is reporting the POLICE started the fire to burn him up. That is unacceptable. They already had the cabin surrounded.If true, where is the OUTRAGE. Do we have another Waco/Ruby Ridge?? The fire was started when a tear gas cartridge was lobbed into the building. Not the brightest of ideas,I grant you, but it was not INTENTIONAL… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #: The damage done by this one man was catastrophic, and worse, he scared the LAPD so badly they completely forsook any pretense of protecting the public, and made it perfectly clear that Dorner’s bad apple didn’t fall very far from the rotten tree. Yeah, and I expect the soon-to-be-enacted laws intended to ensure “officer safety” will be… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Gladiator @ #: BTW, the media is reporting the POLICE started the fire to burn him up. That is unacceptable. They already had the cabin surrounded. If true, where is the OUTRAGE. Do we have another Waco/Ruby Ridge?? Haven’t you ever read The Constitution? It clearly states that any form of Contempt of Cop (especially the aggravated/GBI variety) is… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

I was listening to the live scanner feed, it went dead. Then I started watching the live video feed, after the spokeswoman got to “he’s trapped in a cabin” it also went dead. Then this gem appeared on FB, “They found his wallet near the Mexico border on February 7, then yesterday they claimed to have found his wallet in… Read more »

Darth Venomous
Darth Venomous

Hemp,, bruce is a troll that makes Kayinsane look rational by comparison. Ignore it.

No he is not, sir. Bruce is a Rottie in good standing here, and you’d do well to remember it.

EDIT: Having said that…Bruce, let’s hold the friendly fire if you’d do me that favor, mkay? Thanks.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LCBrendan @ #: The fire was started when a tear gas cartridge was lobbed into the building. Not the brightest of ideas,I grant you, but it was not INTENTIONAL to start a fire. They did not want the place burned down. Otherwise known as a pyrotechnic device. It is pretty foreseeable that a fire can easily result. It’s not like… Read more »

VonZorch Imperial Researcher
VonZorch Imperial Researcher

LCBrendan says: shut the fuck up your self Brendan just because he shot a cop does not give them the right to shoot a couple of old ladies but you would be singing a different tune if that was your mother they shot. Bruce old boy… I have been looking for a post or thread where you made sense. Still… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

bruce says: Brendan the nyc cops shoot 9 innocent by standers but I bet you think they are good cops. I was going to skip commenting on this thread, mostly because I find the whole situation tragic and others have expressed my opinions better than I could……… but I can’t let this sentence go. Bruce, don’t compare the two incidents.… Read more »

LC_Salgak
LC_Salgak

Dang. I wanted to attend Chris Dorner’s BBQ. I always liked burning weenies. . . .

(evil grin)

LCBren
LCBren

No he is not, sir. Bruce is a Rottie in good standing here, and you’d do well to remember it.

Very well.

LCBren
LCBren

Otherwise known as a pyrotechnic device. It is pretty foreseeable that a fire can easily result. It’s not like something similar had ever happened before, say, in 1974. It’s not too terribly different from firing a bullet into a crowd – you may not INTEND to hit anyone, but there’s at least a credible chance of a bad result As… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan @ #: Officers from the LAPD opened fire on innocents without cause. The NYPD shot innocents during an active fight with an armed assailant. One is the work of jackbooted thugs, pure evil. The other is a training issue. It doesn’t make it any less tragic, it doesn’t mean corrections or even punishments… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

Fa Cube Itches @ #: I don’t disagree Cube. Not everyone should wear a shield. However my point stands I believe…….. I don’t see the officers at the Empire State Building as evil. Poorly trained… probably. Missing the judgement and ability to be an officer……… It’s easy to make that case. Yet they we presented with a deadly threat in… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LCBrendan @ #: As I said, not the brightest of ideas, by a long shot. Tear gas canisters haves been known to start fires, it wasnt a smart move. It’s not just not smart – it’s reckless endangerment and/or willful and wanton disregard of life. It’s one thing if there are exigent circumstances that would have required the building to… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

Slightly: I am not making excuses, but it sounds to me like they were jumping at shadows, if thats the case, then their superiors are the onesd who need to wear this, as if they havent trained and briefed their officers properly, they’ve failed. The officers were trigger happy, and I suspect, scared..which again says a lot for screening and… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

Students Told to Stop ‘USA!’ Chant, Take Off American Flag Bandanas By Andrew Johnson February 13, 2013 4:04 P.M. Four California high-school students were reportedly suspended for chanting “U.S.A! U.S.A!” and wearing American flag bandanas during a basketball game. While their punishment has since been rescinded, school administrators said “the incident is far from over.” Oxnard Union School District superintendent… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

LCBrendan says: You have him cornered and surrounded…you sit, and you wait him out. Agreed also there had been a firefight and another two cops had been shot, one died..but if they werent planning on storming the place, the gas was a piss poor decision. I’d love to believe that is was simply a piss poor decision, but this being… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

Audio catches cops shouting ‘Burn this motherf*cker!’ during Dorner siege A separate recording of scanner traffic — which has not been verified — features officers talking about going forward “with the burn.” “All right, Steve, we’re gonna go — we’re gonna go forward with the plan, with — with the burn,” a male voice on the recording instructs. “We want… Read more »

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)

HempRopeAndStreetlight says: More importantly, what this does is utterly shatter the illusions of infallibility and invulnerability enjoyed and propagated by some very corrupt enforcers and the federal government that feeds them. The cops behaved just as bad as Dorner – the only difference as far as I am concerned is they were significantly worse shots. When you look at the… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sisVskohj1k&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po9EaU7ZjxI&feature=player_embedded Not an accident. Not one bit. And no, I don’t give the LAPD the benefit of the doubt. About the time they started blasting newspaper ladies and surfers they proved themselves to be unworthy of their position in society. They are nothing more than the biggest street gang in the area, and have about as much respect for… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight
LC Old Dog
LC Old Dog

The cops actually went with two rounds of Tear gas. When the first round was not working fast enough they then went with their secondary type of gas projectiles which have (as LC Lobo noted) a secondary pyrotechnic component! Their intent was to start the fire! Whether they meant to force him out or burn him alive is certainly a… Read more »

LC LOBO
LC LOBO

Thought that some here would like this. Making a .40S&W into a .45 bullet. :em01:

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

Understood and accepted. Re the other site, I as part of the staff have absolutely NO ISSUE.with you posting and linking your blog for the full story. Well hell..Thanks! In that vein I wrote a small ‘eulogy’ of sorts for Dorner: Reports says there was a single shot heard before the fire broke out – Possibly Dorner committing Suicide –… Read more »

LC Old Dog
LC Old Dog

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder @ #:
If anything not enough but, well said my man!

Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R
Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R

What I’m curious about is…is that crispy body really him? After all this time of leading the LA cops around by the short hairs, he’s going to allow himself to be trapped like a hamster in a microwave? Maybe exhaustion was taking it’s toll and he just gave it up….but will we know the truth about who that body really… Read more »

Draven32
Draven32

LCBrendan says: Otherwise known as a pyrotechnic device. It is pretty foreseeable that a fire can easily result. It’s not like something similar had ever happened before, say, in 1974. It’s not too terribly different from firing a bullet into a crowd – you may not INTEND to hit anyone, but there’s at least a credible chance of a bad… Read more »

OK, had to think on this a while, but…I understand the need to bring cop-killer Christopher Dorner to justice. I understand the need to try to protect the lives of police officers attempting to apprehend him. I even understand that sometimes criminals are killed by police gunfire, in self defense, during that attempt. But we also have something in this… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

LC Sir M – Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E. says: OK, had to think on this a while, but…I understand the need to bring cop-killer Christopher Dorner to justice. I understand the need to try to protect the lives of police officers attempting to apprehend him. I even understand that sometimes criminals are killed by police gunfire, in self defense, during that… Read more »

LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd
LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd

A friend of mine pointed out that this is essentially what happened to the SLA in 1974. I have no use for murderers. Dorner deserved nothing less than to be executed by gut-shot, preferably at the hands of the victim’s families. That said, he was a criminal suspect fully entitled to the protections of the Constitution and the Bill of… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

Second vacation in past six weeks Obama to Vacation in West Palm Beach by Keith Koffler on February 13, 2013, 5:38 pm Taxpayers will be sending President Obama on his second vacation of the year when he departs Friday aboard Air Force One for a Presidents’ Day Weekend excursion to West Palm Beach, Florida. Without apparent irony, Obama has decided… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

LC Sir M – Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E. @ #: 58 But we also have something in this country called “due process”, and it’s a Constitutional guarantee. What we saw in California yesterday wasn’t due process, or self defense. It was a Government execution of a citizen without trial. I’ll have to say I am leaning the opposite way – My… Read more »

LC Spare Parts
LC Spare Parts

At the back of all this mayhem; Dorner, Sandy Hook, Aurora Co. Va. Tech, et al is one strikingly singular fact. The world was not ordered to the liking of any of these rotten spoiled perps who didn’t get their way. And the magnanimous sympathetic, therapeutic state comes after Us for refusing to become their subjects. We are to be… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Sir M – Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E. @ #:

But we also have something in this country called “due process”, and it’s a Constitutional guarantee.

His corpse will be duly processed by the local medical examiner.

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder @ #: My opinion on the matter is: Due process is correct when faced with a situation where the accused is willing to negotiate, attempting to surrender, or is laying down his arms. Dorner wasn’t. And that changes the rules a bit, the use of deadly force is proper in Dorner’s case. It isn’t just about… Read more »

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

Fa Cube Itches @ #: 67 That thought actually crossed my mind – move this little battle to August with everything tinder dry and you just sent half the county up in flames… I Don’t know, I guess let the legal beagles and judges figure it out now…I do feel for the people that had their property destroyed tho –… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder says: ’ll have to say I am leaning the opposite way – My opinion on the matter is: Due process is correct when faced with a situation where the accused is willing to negotiate, attempting to surrender, or is laying down his arms. amen brudda…..Dorner had plenty of chances to take care of his grievances within… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

If they can execute Dorner, they can execute you. If law is dead for one it’s dead for all. This is why nobody should be cheering what the cops did in all of this. What you see here is what we call “precedent.” The next time it could be you holding off the Missouri Police as they come for your… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

HempRopeAndStreetlight says: If they can execute Dorner, they can execute you. If law is dead for one it’s dead for all. This is why nobody should be cheering what the cops did in all of this. execution or not, Dorner chose to shoot and kill two officers who weren’t even remotely involved with his grievances. He picked the way he… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #:

execution or not, Dorner chose to shoot and kill two officers who weren’t even remotely involved with his grievances.

Allegedly. He hasn’t been convicted of anything, yet – and he never will be.

Darth Venomous
Darth Venomous

ITS STARTED Given that Missouri’s lege is GOP-dominated (109-52 House; 24-10 Senate), it’s not likely to make it to their governor’s desk. That said, Glad, your point is well taken – 30 years ago, would this piece of shit have ever even been filed? “Gun control” used to be wistfully talked about in libtard circles, and whispered among leftist circle-jerks.… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

HempRopeAndStreetlight says: If they can execute Dorner, they can execute you. If law is dead for one it’s dead for all. This is why nobody should be cheering what the cops did in all of this. What you see here is what we call “precedent.” The next time it could be you holding off the Missouri Police as they come… Read more »

sleeper
sleeper

Darth Venomous @ #73:

Given that Missouri’s lege is GOP-dominated (109-52 House; 24-10 Senate), it’s not likely to make it to their governor’s desk.

It won’t even see a vote in the legislature.

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Fa Cube Itches says:

Allegedly. He hasn’t been convicted of anything, yet – and he never will be.

He shot and killed an officer while holed up in that cabin, wounded another.

Special Ed
Special Ed

Well, now. /sarc I know that folks have been hitting “refresh page” every hour on the hour for two days to see if the guy with the cop avatar has posted some anti-Dorner pro-professional-peace-officer screed /sarc . But, not so. I usually, scarcely, have the time to comment here, but I’ll give it a whirl. Dorner was a freak show… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Few thousand more like you Ed and I might get my respect for the police back.

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

Special Ed:

I’ll wait your ass out and coo in your ear all the way to lock-up, trial, and the chair.

Presumably that would be Monty Python’s (“No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!”) Comfy Chair.

P.S. I heard it might’ve taken ten years to ready such a “complicated” case for trial.

Ed, I’d bring sandwiches and drinks for you……..and yes, if he gave you an excuse, or better yet, reason to defend yourself or another officer…..

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

Special Ed says: Confronted with the holed-up Dorner who just shot my partner, which do I choose? “Holmes, you ain’t going nowhere, and I ain’t got nuthin’ but time. I’ll wait your ass out and coo in your ear all the way to lock-up, trial, and the chair.” Ed, this is the reason I’m not an officer. I know what… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @ #: He shot and killed an officer while holed up in that cabin, wounded another. No, under the American system of criminal justice, he is suspected of having done so. It has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of a jury. He is, at most, the suspected/alleged shooter. The whole… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC Xystus @ #:

P.S. I heard it might’ve taken ten years to ready such a “complicated” case for trial.

Nah, speedy trial requirements of the Constitution mean prosecutors have to move pretty quickly.

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

No, under the American system of criminal justice, he is suspected of having done so. It has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of a jury. Where’s all the legal beagles when you need them? anyone – anyone – BlackisWhite…. ?? I thinkMostly – in a tactical shooting scenario the rules of evidence and presumption of innocence… Read more »

LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge
LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge

HempRopeAndStreetlight says: If they can execute Dorner, they can execute you. If law is dead for one it’s dead for all. This is why nobody should be cheering what the cops did in all of this. More or less my thoughts. Read through the archives of this blog: Pro Libertate for a disturbing number of stories (mixed with a certain… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder @ #: I thinkMostly – in a tactical shooting scenario the rules of evidence and presumption of innocence go out the back door Police do not operate under the same procedures as the courts. Police apprehend suspects, courts determine whether the suspect is guilty or innocent. In the Dorner case, the police can easily conclude their… Read more »

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan
Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

LC George, Apocryphal Prophet says: One doesn’t have to have been cheering for C. Dorner to point out that the LAPD demonstrated flagrant disregard for the public during the manhunt. The question is if there is a way to save the system without going to war. d I see two separate issues. One is how the LAPD handled their manhunt,… Read more »

Draven32
Draven32

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says: . On this there is much that is unknown, was Dorner actively shooting when they fired the gas? Could the police have found cover close enough to the location to wait him out without giving him a chance to slip away? Watched the whole “he’s barricaded, oh they just fired tear gas”… Read more »

jdog43
jdog43

The murders this pitiful creature committed may have taken some of the wind out of the anti-gun hystericals sails. He was a cop and a military man – according to the Obamanation they should be the only ones with such weapons.

VonZorch Imperial Researcher
VonZorch Imperial Researcher

As I recall from military training there are two primary types of tear gas grenades. One has a payload of gas crystals and a small bursting charge that scatters the gas, the crystals then sublime. The other has chemicals which burn giving off tear gas. The first rarely if ever starts fires, the second is considered an incendiary device as… Read more »

Pardon me for slippin’ in some OT, but:

15% off for being a gun owner at the awesomest pizza shop ever
Any Rotties in the Tidewater oughta go throw some business at this place. Whilst carrying, of course. :em01:

LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge
LC Dread Pirate Geoarrge

Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says: I see two separate issues. One is how the LAPD handled their manhunt, shooting up vehicles and people who had no resemblance to Dorner. I’ve yet to hear a sane voice defend those actions. All of us here find that disgusting. The second issue is if the police should have shot gas/firebombs… Read more »

LCBren
LCBren

There is an unconfirmed – REPEAT UNCONFIRMED – report that a gunshot was heard inside the cabin. One assumption is that Dorner committed suicide when he realised he was cornered and there was no way out.

Until the autopsy is complete, and Dorner’s body is positively identified, there are no more details.

LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder @ #63: I come down on your side. Due process should ordinarily be observed, but it is not a religious scarament to be fetishized. The purpose of due process is to prevent or at least minimize the possibility of wrongfully convicting an innocent party, and maybe to allow a guiltly one to submit some mitigating explanation… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

Before the Civil Rights uproar, blacks were subjectively dismissed as inferiors who could not be depended on to function reasonably and rationally. That prejudicial view gradually evolved, however; in fact, a half-white black was eventually elected president. Unfortunately, thanks in part to Obama´s evil intent for this nation, what has since evolved is the objective realization that all too many… Read more »

Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere
Blackiswhite, Imperial Consigliere

One can only hope that those secretly or not so secretly dreaming of transforming our proud nation into a dictatorship by violating our unalienable rights are paying attention. It would surely save us all a lot of grief. I’d laugh, but my irony meter burned out right after I ran out of shocked faces. El Jeffe is gonna do what… Read more »

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