Coffee and Guns

Enjoying my day off by planning to go to work for a few hours of overtime LOL. Sipping coffee and exercising my 2nd Amendment rights by purchasing a shotgun online. No, it’s not an “anonymous Internet purchase”, the gun will be shipped to the licensed dealer of my choice for pickup, as required by law.

Of course, it would be simpler if I could do it the way the Liberal gun-grabbers THINK it’s done…and the way it should be done. What part of “shall not be infringed” is so hard to understand?

We don’t need new gun control laws, we have very effective laws in place. Of course, “Fast and Furious” demonstrated that they don’t apply to our own Government.

Welcome to your weekend Open Thread™!

91 comments

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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Control, control, control. It’s not about the guns, never has been. It’s just control. These fucks get some kind of high off of telling other people what to do. It’s like 1984 tells us… it’s a boot stomping on a human face, forever. Why? Because it makes them feel good. And that’s all most people care about anymore. Give everyone a participation trophy. Because they feel good. Go get high, drunk and impregnate a bunch of women. Why? Because it feels good. Skip out on the child support and join a gang. Why? Because it feels good. Go to Harvard, get some bullshit degree and get elected to tell people what to do. Why? Because it feels good. Do what I say, says the politician, or I will tell someone to shoot you. Do what I say, says the thug, or I will shoot you.

    But there’s always a bigger fish. Sooner or later the thug gets shot by a bigger thug. The politician’s career is ruined by another politician. And so it goes. A boot, stomping on a human face, forever.

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Until the people en mass get pissed off enough, tear the boot’s off the thug’s feet, and use them to stomp a hole in his chest.

    Then the serfs tear off the laces and hang the bastards that sent him.

    The part that scares me is what comes after. Power abhors a vacuum.

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    The French Revolution taught politicians to allow the common man just enough that he fears its loss – that’s the present method of keeping the populus in line and it seems to be working rather well as I’ve not read of any politicians being sent where they belong, en masse.

    The pussification began after WWII when the pols realized there were hundreds of thousands with some rather nasty skills which could be used to set the country back on the straight and narrow, hence, the “unprecedented prosperity” of the post-war years in keeping with the principal referred to in the first paragraph – that was allowed to happen in order to kick off the “Make America Milquetoast™” campaign, leading the average USA citizens to turn into screaming whineybutts rather than the self-sifficient innovators that built the country in the first place.

    It’s not a matter of when, but if – the pussification has taken root, as evidenced by the level of tolerance afforded the communist in the Brown House.
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    Bones growls and barks:

    The law on guns should be something like this…I went to the Alcohol, Tobacco and Fireams CURB STORE and got me this nice shotgun, case of beer, carton of cigs and a nice fifth of Crown, NOT a government agancy. All the law we need…..

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    LC Draco growls and barks:

    FrankOK @ #:

    I honestly believe that the pussification existed (and continues)…however, now that some of the MTV generation have seen war first hand, they have had a change of heart and their belief system. I talk to young soldiers every day, and most believe we did the right thing, and would go back, if possible. (Myself included) They have seen the crap first hand…if they see it here, they WILL resist it.
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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Just read and enjoy….I did. Madera only a half hour drive from here……

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    The Mulatto Maker growls and barks:

    Open Thread?!? Well, hell, there’s a good opportunity to finally end my lurkerhood…

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    The Mulatto Maker @ #:
    Well then, welcome aboard! If you’ve been lurking then you know the customary warnings, so I’ll dispense with those and just say glad to have ya.
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

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    Dear Friend,

    Why doesn’t Vice President Biden take his gun commission to Chicago, the murder capital of the United States and a place with some of the strictest gun laws in the country?

    Chicago had more than 500 gun homicides in 2012, or roughly 19 per 100,000 people.

    By way of comparison, New York City had just 237 gun homicides with more than three times the population — only about 3 gun homicides per 100,000 people.

    This puts the city of Chicago at more than 6 times the national gun homicide rate.

    Yet in Chicago, it is effectively illegal to possess a handgun outside the confines of your own home. (Even taking the gun outdoors on your own property can be illegal.) Long guns face similar prohibitions outside the home or place of business.

    And if you have more than one gun in your household, only one at a time may be maintained in “operable” condition.

    All gun owners must register themselves with Chicago police, allow themselves to be fingerprinted and take a training course on gun use, supervised by police officers, in addition to paying a $100 fee.

    They must also register each gun individually, at a cost of $15 per firearm.

    In addition, a whole assortment of rifles and shotguns are banned completely, including many of the so-called “assault” weapons.

    These prohibitions are not new to the city. In fact, for most of the last 30 years, Chicago had even stricter laws than they do today. In 2010, the Supreme Court struck down a ban on all handguns that had been on the books since 1982. The city continues to attempt to restrict guns as much as it can get away with without running afoul of the Court’s decision.

    Many media elites, who are wealthy enough that they rarely need to worry about their own personal safety, are saying constantly these days that the U.S.’s gun homicide rate — higher than some cherry picked countries with gun bans — is proof that we, too, need to disarm our population.

    But in Chicago, officials have gone as far as they can toward an outright ban and the city has one of the highest gun homicide rates in the developed world. If the absence of strong gun laws accounts for gun violence, how do they explain such significant outliers as Chicago?

    And how many of these advocates for prohibition would feel the same way if they had to live in a place with the kind of lawlessness that’s occurring in Chicago, with a murder rate many times the national average?

    The Vice President’s commission on gun control ought to start there in the murder capital of America. And the House Republicans should immediately begin hearings on how the gun control laws now being proposed have worked out for the people of the Windy City.

    The answer, as last year’s historic gun homicide rate suggests, is not very well.

    Your Friend,
    Newt Gingrich

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    And how many of these advocates for prohibition would feel the same way if they had to live in a place with the kind of lawlessness that’s occurring in Chicago, with a murder rate many times the national average?

    Especially when ChiTown can’t even solve half their murders in a given year.

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    The Mulatto Maker growls and barks:

    Thanks Crunch :em01:

    I actually usta be an LC in the long long ago, but I had to retire “Army NCO Guy” when I ETS’d. That was, let’s see, goin’ on six years ago… and that’s how long it took my lazy ass to finally register. :em05:

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    The Mulatto Maker @ #:
    Six FREAKIN years!
    I’ll speak doggie so ya understand, “Go Beat Your Face!”.
    :em05:
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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    My Fellow Rotties, I am happy to report that in these dark times, I have discovered a Thing of Beauty…

    Wherein Breitbart’s Ben Shapiro demonstrates a flawless Muay Thai Clinch followed by the celebrated Burmese Roundhouse Sphincter Kick against hapless foe Piers Morgan.

    Hilarity ensues.

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd @ #:
    That was beautiful. :em01:

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/06Lw7xa6lHU

    Penn Jillette ain’t doing so bad either… either the producer was an idiot who knew ZERO about Penn… or he really, really hated the host…

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    Just because someone asked via email, the shotgun I bought was an IAC Hawk 982. It’s a Chinese clone of a Remington 870. And it’s built like a tank, with a milled steel receiver (no aluminum here) and synthetic furniture.

    Disparage the Chinese all you want, those people invented gunpowder, and they know how to build a gun. The fit and finish is on a par with what’s turning out of Freedom Group (Remington, DPMS, Bushmaster, TAPCO) these days, the action is smooth as freaking silk, and it’ll damn sure go BANG when asked.

    At half the price of an 870. It’s a welcome addition to the “c’mon and get them” home defense layers.
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    Markward growls and barks:

    Jan 19! Come out and be heard!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUAfft7l4wQ&feature=youtu.be

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    The White House has responded to a handful of petitions calling for various states to be given the right to secede from the United States, calling for unity and participatory government instead.

    “In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that’s a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted,” writes Director of the Office of Public Engagement Jon Carson.

    “But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don’t let that debate tear us apart,” he adds.

    A handful of “We the People” petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama’s reelection. The White House has responded to all those which received more than 25,000 signatures within a month, the minimum required to get a response.

    The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other.

    Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/276817-white-house-responds-to-secession-petitions#ixzz2HmQEzznQ

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other.

    Lokks like a GREAT start for a NEW NATION right there

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC Sir M – Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E. @ #17:

    I had a Norinco 1897 trench gun a while back. Fit, finish and function were exemplary.

    People can say what they like about the Chinese. But how is it that US industry, with CAD, CNC machining and investment casting galore can’t pull its head out of its collective ass and compete against China to produce a century-old American design?

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Meanwhile, notable pain management specialist and mayor Michael Bloomberg has issued new prescribing guidelines to the licensed and board-certified physicians who work in “his” hospitals:

    http://politicker.com/2013/01/bloomberg-slaps-down-criticism-of-painkiller-restriction-plan/

    “The city hospitals we control, so … we’re going to do it and we’re urging all of the other hospitals to do it, voluntary guidelines. Somebody said, oh, somebody wrote, ‘Oh then maybe there won’t be enough painkillers for the poor who use the emergency rooms as their primary care doctor,’” the mayor said on his weekly radio show with John Gambling. “Number one, there’s no evidence of that. Number two, supposing it is really true, so you didn’t get enough painkillers and you did have to suffer a little bit. The other side of the coin is people are dying and there’s nothing perfect … There’s nothing that you can possibly do where somebody isn’t going to suffer, and it’s always the same group [claiming], ‘Everybody is heartless.’ Come on, this is a very big problem.” (emphasis added)

    It’s always easy when it’s someone else who’s in pain.

    I hope he slips on the ice and breaks a hip.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    MUST SEE TV

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSVEJs4wCAE

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    HempRopeAndStreetlight says:

    Then the serfs tear off the laces and hang the bastards that sent him.
    The part that scares me is what comes after. Power abhors a vacuum.

    Well Misha isn’t Emporer for nothing :em01:

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    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks:

    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd says:

    mayor Michael Bloomberg has issued new prescribing guidelines to the licensed and board-certified physicians who work in “his” hospitals:

    So he’s stocking up for his Sturmabteilung, hmm…has to warrant seizure of critical battle supplies, maybe?

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #:

    Lokks like a GREAT start for a NEW NATION right there

    It ain’t exactly NEW; it’s just apparently been dormant for a while. Wonder if Arkansas, Mississippi, and Virginia will re-join? Probably not Viriginia – it’s the home of Leviathan these days.

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    The Mulatto Maker growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    LC Gladiator @ #:
    Lokks like a GREAT start for a NEW NATION right there
    It ain’t exactly NEW; it’s just apparently been dormant for a while. Wonder if Arkansas, Mississippi, and Virginia will re-join? Probably not Viriginia – it’s the home of Leviathan these days.

    Well, y’all will have a few extra states this time around that didn’t exist for Round 1. Us flyovers between Sacramento and Minneapolis won’t wanna be left behind.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Patriotic Group To Build Armed ‘Defensible’ Neighborhood Fortress
    By Gregory Gwyn-Williams, Jr.
    January 12, 2013
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    A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.

    The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho. The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who “voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson’s ideal of Rightful Liberty.”

    According to the Citadel website, Rightful Liberty means that “neighbors keep their noses out of other neighbors’ business, that neighbors live and let live.”

    Citadel explains that residents in the community will be bound by the following:

    Patriotism
    Pride in American Exceptionalism
    Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
    Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes –such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

    Residents should also agree that being “prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures.”

    Some of the benefits of the Citadel community include a safe, well-prepared, patriotic community where children will be educated in school, not indoctrinated.

    The community will be protected by a perimeter wall that will be inaccessible to “tourists.” Each neighborhood within the community will have lower walls, dividing the town into defensible sections.

    The website has a link to applications where prospective residents can sign up. According to Citadel, more than 200 families have completed applications, even before any land has been purchased.

    While Citadel may sound wonderful to many who are reading this, the community has posted a warning on their home page:

    “Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.”

    Citadel says that every patriot selected to live within the community “will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Braces for the Kids Just Got More Expensive: Obamacare Tax Hike Case Study
    In 2013, the tax increases in Obamacare will increasingly conspire against kitchen-table family healthcare decisions.

    As just one example, below are some of the taxes that will impact the purchase of dental braces:

    Obamacare Medical Device Tax: As of Jan.1, Obamacare imposes a new tax of 2.3 percent on medical device manufacturers, including those who make dental braces. The tax is imposed on gross sales — even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. While the tax will be paid to the IRS by the manufacturer, the tax will be passed along as a higher cost of the product, ultimately to be borne by the parent buying the braces for their child. With the cost of braces being as high as $7,625 this new tax could raise the cost of these braces by $175.

    Read more: http://atr.org/braces-kids-more-expensive-obamacare-tax-a7407#ixzz2HoPJU9rq
    Follow us: @taxreformer on Twitter

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Since this is an open thread: I just returned from a visit with my parents. Thursday was my dad’s 90th birthday. My sister flew in from ABQ, and my brother and his wife drove up from Dallas; I flew in from Omaha. We had a nice time, overall. But, as with every good thing, SOME IDIOT has to ruin it. Here’s what I would say if I knew this guy:

    Dear Mike on my Southwest flight: if the plane load of passengers DID NOT know you were a football fan, we do now (not that we care). In addition, I hope the mother of the crying baby didn’t hear you say, “just smack the kid in the head; that will pop the ears.” Also those of us who hate to fly didn’t appreciate hearing you say (after a TURBULENT ride) “we’re not out of the woods yet; we can still crash.” I only wish I knew your last name so that I’ll be sure NEVER to fly with you again. Jerk.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    addition, I hope the mother of the crying baby didn’t hear you say, “just smack the kid in the head; that will pop the ears.

    Actually flying uncontrolled babies are VERY annoying

    Doggie downers prescribed……………………..

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #32:

    This sort of thing is becoming mainstream.

    As the bloated and doomed DC-run state continues to circle the drain, people are starting to get wise and form their own local, decentralized and self-sustaining alternatives. (This is very much like the vision Jefferson had for America, as alluded to in the article.)

    It’s taken a couple of hundred years, but this whole thing is coming right off the rails, live and in front of us.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Actually flying uncontrolled babies are VERY annoying

    The baby didn’t start crying until we were nearly on the ground (about 20 minutes). Mike, on the other hand, kept up his obnoxious and boorish behavior for the entire trip from St. Louis (an hour). And since he was already on the plane when it arrived in St. Louis, my guess is he’d been obnoxious since he first got on the plane.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    I personally will vote against any member of Congress that votes for any type of Gun Control Bill! I will not care about his/her record on any other issues!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope that every one will promise to do the same! These people will do any thing to take our freedoms away and the only check we have are our Guns!!!!!!!

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #40:

    Agreed.

    These people need to be reminded: The Bill of Rights is not only the highest law of the land, it’s a package deal. You don’t get to tread on one part of it without attacking all of it.

    “Shall not be infringed” is as strong, concise and clear as I can imagine. I don’t know how it could be made more plain.

    One thing that’s been pissing me off more lately is this ignorant argument that “They never imagined AR-15s in 1787!” If anyone ever tries to dump that turd in your lap, tell them that they’re the ones suffering from a lack of imagination and point out that in 1787:

    1) There were no antibiotics. The leading cause of death in the US was infection. A simple scratch could lead to a lingering, painful death from systemic sepsis and an abdominal wound almost certainly lead to a horrible death from peritonitis.

    2) There was no vaccination against tetanus. If a ball grazed you, you might end up like this. The cause of death was suffocation as your diaphragm went into spasm.

    3) Anesthesia, analgesia and sterile technique were nearly a century away. Nearly any wound to an extremity was treated with amputation, and there were no “disabled veteran’s benefits.” If you managed to survive the surgery, there was an excellent chance you’d contract infectious hepatitis. This assumes that you’d be treated at all. Many wounded were simply left on the battlefield to die as military medicine was haphazard at best.

    Given the choice of being shot at with an AR today or dodging a dose of “ball and buck” at 20 paces from a Brown Bess in the 1700s, I’m fairly sure I’d take my chances with the AR.

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    NR Pax growls and barks:

    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd @ #:

    I also like pointing out that the Colonists were under a death sentence from England and they probably would have jumped at the chance to send long range ballistic arguments to the British. I don’t know why these people seem to think that the Founding Fathers would be bed-wetting pansies at the thought of an M16.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    BREAKING & CONFIRMED: Wal Mart Is NOT Going To Order Any More Ammo.
    I do not have a link as of yet but here is what I have found out…

    Stopped by my local Wal Mart this morning. They are out of almost every kind of ammo.
    I asked to talk to the person in charge of ordering to see if they had any information on this subject.
    The manager I talked to said they had not heard anything…BUT.
    She tried to order some .223 as I was standing there. She said the order was being rejected by the corporate office. Said she had never had that happen.

    She called corporate as I was standing there.
    And was told this. “As of right now Wal Mart is not going to be making any new orders of ammo because of the upcoming decision on the second amendment”. Said, “As of right now we are unsure of what new legislation might be coming, and because of this, we are suspending new orders. We will continue to sell what is already in stock in stores and at our distribution centers, but any new orders will not be shipped until the issue is resolved”.

    So after they run out, there will be no restocking until Obama makes his decision…Hows that change working out for you now?

    As I said, I dont have a link, but you can call Wal Mart headquarters at 1-800-925-6278 for yourself and ask. After the answer press 2 then 1 then 1 again and wait to talk to a rep. I just did this myself and was told the same thing.

    Something must have changed at the meeting they had on Thursday.
    Guess we will have to wait and see what Obama has in store for us next.

    Guys, I am not making this up…Call and find out for yourself.

    - Darrell

    Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-confirmed-wal-mart-is-not-going-to-order-any-more-ammo/#DzLfPLUIdDjTtPzb.99

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    NR Pax @ #44:

    Everyone’s seen this by now, but it still makes me chuckle.

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC LOBO @ #45:

    If true, I’m not going to lose much sleep. Walmart is about to open a store here and the local mom and pop stores are getting worried. It’s one less reason for me to go there and another to keep the money in the community by buying what I need from my friends and neighbors.

    The biggest Walmart in the world is the “Lotus Supercenter” in Beijing. Ever since Sam Walton died, his kids have been doing every thing possible to bring in cheap crap from China and to hell with the local producers.

    I’ll use a flintlock before I buy a round of .22 from Walmart.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    The closest Wal-Mart has got three boxes of 20 rounds in .40S&W. And not much else. Some .308 Win Mag, some 30.06, some .17 cal, and some light loads for shot gun. Everything else has been out for three weeks, at least. But they have shotguns and long rifles out the wazoo….. :em03:
    And the “employees” are a damned surly lot of fuckers.

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC LOBO @ #48:

    Time to start rolling your own, my brother.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd @ #:
    We has a supply laid in. As other places are keeping stock up.
    Really looking for an AR type platform, so that ammo can be found “as needed”….

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC LOBO @ #50:

    Don’t have to tell you that AR lowers, uppers and parts kits are scarce right now. Stripped lowers are ridiculously priced, if you can find them at all.

    If you have machining skills and can do the work yourself, you might consider a Frankenbolt lower.

    I haven’t made one of these, so I’m no help, but I know people who have and they’re happy with them.

    As long as you build it yourself, use it yourself and never transfer it, it’s legal under Federal law. For now.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Anybody else see this? I read the entie site, and the Facebook page. Quite an idea…..

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC HJ Caveman82952 @ #52:

    #32 and #38 above.

    Great minds think alike. :)

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC LOBO @ #50:

    Another thought:
    http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/7615.htm

    5.56, takes AR mags, short, light, based on the 870 and manually operated so it’s reliable as hell and well under half the current cost of an AR. (What’s more, you can actually get one right now.)

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=325783146

    Just thinking out loud.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    REPORT: NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control; Restricts Assault Weapons, Limits Magazine Size to 7 Bullets…

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gun-Control-Assault-Weapons-Ban-Magazines-Limit-Cuomo-NY-186794151.html

    Chicago to require gun owners to report private gun sales — or go to jail…

    http://www.suntimes.com/17520235-761/emanuel-preckwinkle-team-up-on-tougher-gun-rules-sentences.html

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Obama: Some Gun Control Measures ‘I Can Accomplish Through Executive Action’
    “I’m confident that there are some steps that we can take that don’t require legislation and that are within my authority as president.”
    12:14 PM, Jan 14, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER

    President Obama said he’d take “executive action” to deal with guns at his press conference today:

    “My understanding is the vice president’s going to provide a range of steps that we can take to reduce gun violence,” said Obama. “Some of them will require legislation, some of them I can accomplish through executive action. And so I will be reviewing those today, and as I said, I will speak in more detail to what we’re going to go ahead and propose later in the week. But I’m confident that there are some steps that we can take that don’t require legislation and that are within my authority as president, and where you get a step that, has the opportunity to reduce the possibility of gun violence, then i want to go ahead and take it.”

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    Spin Drift growls and barks:

    If our Speaker of the House had a set he would issue a statement this afternoon that if Voldemort issues an XO then he would send Articles of Impeachement to the house floor. End of statement. In the articles it should list all the senators that signed the letter urging the pResident to issue an XO on gun control. As parties to the Impeachment articles the mentioned senators could not participate in the Seante trial. i believe tat this would give us the majority to boot their asses down the road. Do to again and again. Tie the bastard up in congressional hearings for the next four years.

    Molon Labe!

    Hold Fast

    Spin Drift.

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    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Spin Drift @ #60:

    Rumors are flying around about him adding this or that to the NFA registry by executive order. Fortunately, it doesn’t work that way; the NFA can only be amended by Congress, including adding new guns as NFA items. (Shotguns are an interesting case. Anything over .50 cal is an NFA item by definition, but can be exempted if the Secretary decides they have a “sporting purpose.”)

    Look for exemption on Saiga shotguns to be revoked and importation of mags over 10 rounds to cease. These are things that could easily be “stroke of the pen, law of the land” sops to his base.

    Going farther than that is moving into Constitutional Crisis territory.

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    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Chicago to require gun owners to report private gun sales — or go to jail…

    Or just die in the coming sweeps.
    With the new party staff at our morgue, Rahmbo, Governor Pat “The Mighty” Quinn and Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle; the go to apparatchik gal, have an easy ditch for the hard to recycle odd corpus or two:

    Former Cook County chief medical examiner Dr. Nancy Jones spoke at length for the first time since being forced from office in June…
    But her ability to run her operations, she said, changed in 2010, when Toni Preckwinkle became Cook County board president.

    “This woman is evil,” Jones said.

    The two didn’t even meet for the first half year Preckwinkle was in office.

    “Nobody ever introduced me,” Jones said. “I never met Toni Preckwinkle, nobody even introduced us for over six months. I was going to board meetings downtown, one day she walked past me, and I told Martha Martinez [a top Preckwinkle administrator], ‘You know, I’ve never met her.’ Martha said, ‘You’re kidding.’ ’’

    When they finally did meet, it did not go well.

    “It was at a pre-agenda meeting, when you have an item, you go and meet with the president. She started doing this face-washing gesture — rubbing her face over and over. I had the feeling I made her very uncomfortable — Neil, you and I met. I’m not a scary person. She kept doing it. I don’t think Toni Preckwinkle is comfortable discussing death and dying — a lot of people aren’t, but that was the first indication she was uncomfortable around me.”(snip)

    Jones said that budget cuts and politically motivated personnel shuffles led to the chaotic conditions at the Harrison Street office.

    “We were told to cut our budget, and we foolishly did,” Jones said. “While a bunch of other departments refused, we did, though I said, ‘You cut my budget, we’re going to run into problems.’ It was cut anyway.”

    Problems included services being cut off for non-payment.

    “The medical examiner’s office was getting sued,” she said. “By suppliers, by people we had contracts with, because the comptroller’s office wasn’t paying them. We’d send bills downtown and they weren’t paying them. Lee Lumber sued us. Medical waste was building up because the company contracted to take it away wasn’t being paid. I wasn’t allowed to tell anyone this.”

    They had tried to get more money in the budget.

    “The way the economy was going, we knew more and more people weren’t going to be able to take care of burial or financial arrangements for their loved ones,” she said. “Even back in 2010, we knew we would have to increase certain parts of our budget.”

    Instead, her staff was cut.

    “It was Kimberly [Jackson] and I trying to do five people’s work. It’s impossible. You can’t.”

    Jones said she tried to stop the practice of stealing from the dead — employees were suspended — but that left her open to criticism.

    “I was always accused by black employees of being racist,” she said. “Any discipline I did, they always said it was because they were black.”

    As far as the “House of Horrors” front page of the Sun-Times, she said that occurred while she was on vacation.

    “Actually, a big part of that was staged,” she said. “My first notice that the cooler was in disarray was when Toni Preckwinkle’s press people called to say Mark Brown wants to come and see the cooler because he had heard it was more crowded than it ever had been. It was my first day back from vacation. I walked downstairs to see, walked in and almost . . . I was really ready to kill people. It was a disgrace.”

    She pointed out that, the previous July, Gov. Pat Quinn had stopped the funding for public aid burials. “A lot of funeral directors continued to take remains, who would be buried under public aid, hoping the governor would realize the error of his ways and reinstate the funding for public aid burials.”

    But eventually they gave up and started sending the bodies back to the morgue. “Instead of getting one or two storage cases a day, we were getting eight or 10 in a single day.”

    Even then, she said, the bodies were handled “respectfully — nobody was on the floor, nobody was piled on anybody else.” Cleaning crews came every night.

    “That’s why we know it was staged,” she said. “Just about anyone in the office will agree with that. It was made to look a lot worse than it really was.”

    She speculates that employees being disciplined manufactured the scene in the night and turned the photos over to the newspaper.

    “Whenever I go on vacation, they always had my cell number. I told them, in an emergency, call me. And they would call me for sillier things,” Jones said. “But when the cooler started getting full, nobody called me. All they had to do was pick up the phone.”

    Jones pointed out that “for all the shenanigans that have been going on for decades,” most of the morgue technicians “are really caring and straightforward” though “some are thieves,” including one recently promoted who “bragged about filling his gas tank from loose change found in the pockets of the deceased.”

    She said she is going public to set the record straight.

    “I never got a chance to defend myself,” she said. “My reputation as a forensic pathologist is intact. What hurt was having to face my neighbors every day. The reason I’m doing this is because the [medical examiner’s] office was damaged by downtown. Instead of them taking responsibility, I and Kimberly [Jackson, former top executive administrator] ended up being sacrificial lambs.”

    Does she accept any responsibility for what happened in her office? What was her role?

    “Being stupid,” she said. “I am so apolitical. It was Commissioner [John] Fritchey who said, it’s not that I’m not a talented forensic pathologist, but that I’m not a politician. I took that as a compliment. There would be some things I would have done differently. I would have been a bit more insistent that my deputy chief assume responsibilities and do more of her job.”

    On a more positive note Jones, whose blood pressure was sent soaring by the episode, is glad to be gone. She is happy, and has more time to ride the horses she loves. “I’ve never been so relaxed,” she said. “I feel like a new person.”
    “Actually, a big part of that was staged,” she said. “My first notice that the cooler was in disarray was when Toni Preckwinkle’s press people called to say Mark Brown wants to come and see the cooler because he had heard it was more crowded than it ever had been. It was my first day back from vacation. I walked downstairs to see, walked in and almost . . . I was really ready to kill people. It was a disgrace.”

    She pointed out that, the previous July, Gov. Pat Quinn had stopped the funding for public aid burials. “A lot of funeral directors continued to take remains, who would be buried under public aid, hoping the governor would realize the error of his ways and reinstate the funding for public aid burials.”

    But eventually they gave up and started sending the bodies back to the morgue. “Instead of getting one or two storage cases a day, we were getting eight or 10 in a single day.”

    Even then, she said, the bodies were handled “respectfully — nobody was on the floor, nobody was piled on anybody else.” Cleaning crews came every night.

    “That’s why we know it was staged,” she said. “Just about anyone in the office will agree with that. It was made to look a lot worse than it really was.”

    She speculates that employees being disciplined manufactured the scene in the night and turned the photos over to the newspaper.

    “Whenever I go on vacation, they always had my cell number. I told them, in an emergency, call me. And they would call me for sillier things,” Jones said. “But when the cooler started getting full, nobody called me. All they had to do was pick up the phone.”

    Jones pointed out that “for all the shenanigans that have been going on for decades,” most of the morgue technicians “are really caring and straightforward” though “some are thieves,” including one recently promoted who “bragged about filling his gas tank from loose change found in the pockets of the deceased.”

    Why shucks y’all, they can save on burials if’n they just stack ‘em up in the pauper graves.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Despair Inside the Beltway

    By Arnold S. Trebach on 1.14.13 @ 6:08AM

    Reflections on the upcoming second inauguration of President Obama.

    The second inauguration of our sitting president will take place this coming weekend as this is being written. It is a time of great happiness for most of my neighbors and friends inside the beltway, indeed for most people in the country.

    But I find myself in despair for our beloved country. It is quite likely that a large minority of the nation’s citizens agree with my pessimistic mood. The reasons for that despair are not difficult to discern.

    Our beloved country is in terrible condition. The awful evidence is easily seen everywhere, for those willing to look. Our economic situation is unsustainable. Yes, the government of the richest country in the history of the world is, by all reliable measures, broke. Our national government cannot pay its bills and every day sinks deeper in debt because it is addicted to spending at extravagant rates. We are on our way to becoming the sad equivalent of Greece or another failed state.

    There is plenty of blame to pass around for this condition and it should be shared by Democrats and Republicans, by George Bush and by Barack Obama, but the major part of the blame must be placed squarely on the shoulders of Mr. Obama and his administration. He has been in power for four years and he promised that he would deal with all of our major problems. He has not done so.

    To put fine point on the matter, our president terrifies me, even though during most of my life I have been a liberal Democrat and voted for him in his first election.

    If viewed honestly his first term has been an unmitigated disaster. The national debt is at an historic high. So is unemployment. Despite these sad, undeniable facts, he was elected to another term. That of course is typical of his history for much of his life. He is a master politician of the Chicago school and yet a disaster as a manager and practical leader.

    His political skills helped him get selected as the editor of the prestigious Harvard Law Review. Yet he proved a failure as the leader of that publication. There is no evidence that he authored one written comment or publication during his entire tenure.

    His political skills also led to his election in 1996 to the Illinois State Senate where his work there was without any sign of major distinction. Often, he voted “present” rather than show the guts to fight for significant new laws.

    Despite this lackluster record in Illinois, his political savvy led to his election to the United States Senate in 2004. His record in the Senate was equally without distinction in part because he spent most of his time there running for president. Yet, he was elected president in 2008 and, as I said, I voted for him. Like many millions of citizens, I managed to overcome my disgust at his association with his bigoted, racist, anti-Semitic pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

    Mr. Obama now is seeking to take the lead in getting the country beyond the so-called fiscal cliff. In my view, had he been a proper leader, the country would have avoided the fiscal cliff months ago. His failures of leadership were the main causes of the horrors around the fiscal cliff.

    Yet, again his political mastery has again produced a situation in which he is given credit for being a good leader and the press and the public are placing the lion’s share of the blame for our dire economic situation on Congress and the Republicans.

    If history is to be repeated, which is likely, somehow the country will move beyond the fiscal cliff and Barack Obama will move forward with governing the country while basking in the warm glow of press and public applause.

    And again if history prevails, he will be a disaster in his second term as he was in the first. Race relations will continue to get worse under his leadership; so will black crime. The nation’s status in foreign affairs will also continue to deteriorate. Israel will continue to be treated as the major problem in the Middle East rather than our most trusted and valuable ally in the region and the world. The master politician will continue to be a failure as a leader and manager — and all the while he will be applauded as a great chief executive by the slavish major media and by a majority of the public.

    When the country finally collapses in a sea of debt and red ink, or even in a race war, neither he nor his Democratic Party will be blamed. It is likely that another Democrat will be elected to the White House in 2016.

    Those in brief are the reasons why I am in despair and why we all should despair for our wonderful country as the inauguration day approaches.

    I pray that my pessimistic forecasts do not prove to be true in the near future, but I fear that the forces of history do not allow for much hope in this regard — except in one way. If millions of good Americans agree with these awful forecasts then perhaps — just perhaps — there will be a groundswell of popular demand that drastic measures must be taken very soon to change the disastrous direction of the precious American nation.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    ‘Pray for Obama: Psalms 109.8′

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    The Big List of Who Hates Guns
    Mike Piccione
    Editor, Guns & Gear

    I was cruising the web reading gun articles and then I started wondering about writing an article on anti-gun organizations and people. Since anti-gunners are always saying “no one wants to take your guns away” or they want me to live under their take of “sensible gun laws” (neither of which I believe to be prudent, sensible or anything remotely truthful) I figured I would go to the NRA’s Institute of Legislative Action to find out who are the people that want to be sure that I can’t defend my home or go shooting my .22 in the woods (both heinous acts of human behavior to be sure).

    So, hats off the the NRA-ILA team for compiling this list. Here is what the NRA-ILA team had to say.

    The following organizations have lent monetary, grassroots or some other type of direct support to anti-gun organizations. In many instances, these organizations lent their name in support of specific campaigns to pass anti-gun legislation such as the March 1995 HCI “Campaign to Protect Sane Gun Laws.” Many of these organizations were listed as “Campaign Partners,” for having pledged to fight any efforts to repeal the Brady Act and the Clinton “assault weapons” ban. All have officially endorsed anti-gun positions.

    AARP
    AFL-CIO
    Ambulatory Pediatric Association
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American Civil Liberties Union
    American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
    American Medical Women`s Association
    American Medical Student Association
    American Medical Association
    American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
    American Trauma Society
    American Federation of Teachers
    American Association of School Administrators
    American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
    American Medical Association
    American Bar Association
    American Counseling Association
    American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American Association for World Health
    American Ethical Union
    American Nurses Association
    American Association of Neurological Surgeons
    American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
    American Firearms Association
    American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
    American Jewish Committee
    American Trauma Society
    American Psychological Association
    American Jewish Congress
    American Public Health Association
    Americans for Democratic Action
    Anti-Defamation League
    Black Mental Health Alliance
    B`nai B`rith
    Central Conference of American Rabbis
    Children`s Defense Fund
    Church of the Brethren
    Coalition for Peace Action
    Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
    College Democrats of America
    Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
    Common Cause
    Congress of National Black Churches, Inc.
    Congress of Neurological Surgeons
    Consumer Federation of America
    Council of the Great City Schools
    Council of Chief State School Officers
    Dehere Foundation
    Disarm Educational Fund
    Environmental Action Foundation
    Episcopal Church-Washington Office
    Florence and John Shumann Foundation
    Friends Committee on National Legislation
    General Federation of Women`s Clubs
    George Gund Fun
    Gray Panthers
    H.M. Strong Foundation
    Hadassah
    Harris Foundation
    Hechinger Foundation
    Interfaith Neighbors
    Int`l Ladies` Garment Workers` Union
    Int`l Association of Educators for World Peace
    Jewish Labor Committee
    Joyce Foundation
    Lauder Foundation
    Lawrence Foundation
    League of Women Voters of the United States*
    Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
    Manhattan Project II
    Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
    National Safe Kids Campaign
    National Association of Police Organizations
    National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
    National Black Nurses` Association
    National Association of Chain Drug Stores
    National Network for Youth
    National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
    National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
    National Association of School Psychologists
    National Association of Counties*
    National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
    National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
    National Education Association
    National Association of Elementary School Principals*
    National Association of Public Hospitals
    National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
    National Association of Secondary School Principals
    National Association of Social Workers
    National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
    National Association of School Psychologists
    National Council of La Raza
    National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
    National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
    National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
    National Council of Negro Women
    National Association of Community Health Centers
    National People`s Action
    National Education Association*
    National League of Cities
    National Council on Family Relations
    National Council of Jewish Women
    National Organization for Women
    National Political Congress of Black Women
    National Parks and Conservation Association
    National Peace Foundation
    National Urban League, Inc.
    National Parent, Teachers Association*
    National Urban Coalition
    National SAFE KIDS Campaign
    National Organization on Disability
    National Spinal Cord Injury Association
    NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
    Ortenberg Foundation
    Peace Action
    People for the American Way
    Physicians for Social Responsibility
    Police Foundation
    Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
    Public Citizen
    SaferWorld
    Society of Critical Care Medicine
    Southern Christian Leadership Conference
    The Council of the Great City Schools
    The Synergetic Society
    20/20 Vision
    U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
    Union of American Hebrew Congregations
    Unitarian Universalist Association
    United States Catholic Conference
    United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
    United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
    United States Conference of Mayors
    War and Peace Foundation
    Women Strike for Peace
    Women`s National Democratic Club
    Women`s Action for New Directions (WAND)
    Women`s Int`l League for Peace and Freedom
    World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.
    YWCA of the U.S.A.

    Anti-Gun Individuals & Celebrities
    The following celebrities and national figures have lent their name and notoriety to anti-gun causes, speaking out for anti-gun legislation and providing a voice for anti-gun organizations.

    Celebrities:

    Krista Allen – Actress
    Suzy Amis – Actress
    Louis Anderson – Comedian
    Richard Dean Anderson – Actor
    Maya Angelou – Poet
    David Arquette – Actor
    Ed Asner – Actor
    Alec Baldwin – Actor
    Bob Barker – TV Personality
    Carol Bayer Sager – Composer
    Drew Barrymore – Actress
    Kevin Bacon – Actor
    Lauren Bacall – Actress*
    Sarah Ban Breathnach – Writer
    William Baldwin – Actor
    Candice Bergen – Actress
    Richard Belzer – Actor
    Tony Bennett – Singer
    Boys II Men – Pop Group
    Jon Bon Jovi – Singer
    Peter Bogdonovich – Director
    Peter Bonerz – Actor
    Albert Brooks – Actor
    Beau Bridges – Actor
    Benjamin Bratt – Actor
    Bonnie Bruckheimer – Movie Producer
    Christie Brinkley – Model
    Dr. Joyce Brothers – Psychologist/Author
    James Brolin – Actor
    James Brooks – TV Producer
    Mel Brooks – Actor/Director
    Betty Buckley – Actress
    Ellen Burstyn – Actress
    Steve Buscemi – Actor
    David Canary – Actor
    Kate Capshaw – Actress
    Kim Cattrall- Actress
    Josh Charles – Actor
    Robert Chartloff – Producer
    Stockard Channing – Actress
    Jill Clayburgh – Actress
    Terri Clark – Singer
    George Clooney – Actor
    Jackie Cooper – Actor/Director*
    Jennifer Connelly – Actress
    Judy Collins – Singer
    Kevin Costner – Actor
    Sean Connery – Actor
    Sheryl Crow – Singer
    Billy Crystal- Actor
    Julie Cypher – Director
    Arlene Dahl – Actress
    Clive Davis – Writer
    Linda Dano – Actress
    Matt Damon – Actor
    Pam Dawber – Actress
    Patrika Darbo – Actress
    Stuart Damon – Actor
    Ellen Degeneres – Actress
    Gavin de Becker – Writer
    Rebecca DeMornay – Actress
    Danny DeVito – Actor
    Michael Douglas – Actor
    Phil Donahue – Talk Show Host
    Richard Donner – Director
    Fran Drescher – Actress
    Richard Dreyfus – Actor
    David Duchovny – Actor
    Sandy Duncan – Actress
    Christine Ebersole – Actress
    Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds – Singer
    Missy Elliott – Singer
    Nora Ephron – Director
    Gloria Estefan – Singer
    Melissa Etheridge – Singer
    Mia Farrow – Actress
    Mike Farrell – Actor
    Carrie Fisher – Actress
    Sally Field – Actress
    Doug Flutie – NFL player
    Fannie Flagg – Actress
    Jane Fonda – Actress
    Jodie Foster – Actress
    Rick Fox – NBA Player
    Andy Garcia – Actor
    Art Garfunkel – Singer
    Geraldo – TV personality
    Richard Gere – Actor
    Kathie Lee Gifford – TV personality
    Paul Glaser – TV director
    Brad Gooch – Writer
    Elliott Gould – Actor
    Louis Gossett, Jr. – Actor
    Michael Gross – Actor
    Nancy Lee Grahn – Actress
    Bryant Gumbel – TV Personality
    Deidra Hall – Actress
    Ethan Hawke – Actor
    Mariette Hartley – Actress
    Mark Harmon – Actor
    Anne Heche – Actress
    Howard Hessman – Actor
    Marilu Henner – Actress
    Dustin Hoffman – Actor
    Hal Holbrook – Actor*
    Helen Hunt – Actress
    Grace-Lynne Ingle – Actress
    John Ingle – Actor
    Francesca James – TV Producer
    Norman Jewison – Director
    Lainie Kazan – Actress
    Richard Karn – Actor
    Jeffrey Katzenberg – Producer
    Barry Kemp – TV Producer
    David E. Kelley – TV Producer
    Diane Keaton – Actress
    Margaret Kemp – Interior Designer
    Chaka Khan – Singer
    Coreta Scott King – Activist
    Kevin Kline – Actor
    Michael E. Knight – Actor
    Jonathan Kozol – Writer
    William Kovacs – Director
    Lenny Kravits – Singer
    Lisa Kudrow – Actress
    Wally Kurth – Actor
    Christine Lahti – Actress
    k.d. lang – Singer
    Ricki Lake – TV personality
    enis Leary – Actor
    John Leguizamo – Actor
    Norman Lear – TV Producer
    Spike Lee – Director
    Hal Linden – Actor
    Lisa Linde – Actress
    Tara Lipinski – Former Olympian
    Keyshawn Johnson – NFL player
    Rob Lowe – Actor
    Amanda Marshall – Singer
    Barry Manilow – Singer
    Camryn Manheim – Actress
    Howie Mandel – Actor
    Kyle MacLachlan – Actor
    Madonna – Singer
    Marla Maples – Actress
    Marsha Mason – Actress*
    Mase – Singer
    Penny Marshall – Director
    Prema Mathai-Davis – YWCA Official
    John McDaniel – Musician
    John McEnroe – Athlete
    Brian McKnight – Musician
    Natalie Merchant – Singer
    Bette Midler – Singer
    Shane Minor – Musician
    Mary Tyler Moore – Actress
    Michael Moore – Film Maker
    Norval Morris – Law Professor
    Mike Myers – Actor
    N Sync – Music group
    Kathy Najimy – Actress
    Jack Nicholson – Actor
    Leonard Nimoy – Actor
    Mike Nichols – Director
    Stephen Nichols – Actor
    Rosie O`Donnel l- Actress/Talk Show Host
    Jennifer O Neill – Actress
    Julia Ormond – Actress
    Jane Pauley – TV Personality
    Sarah Jessica Parker – Actress
    Mandy Patinkin – Actor
    Richard North Patterson – Writer
    Rhea Perlman- Actress
    Michelle Pfieffer – Actress
    Sydney Pollack – Director
    Aidan Quinn – Actor
    Colin Quinn – Actor
    Dennis Quaid – Actor
    Elizabeth Bracco Quinn – Actress
    Bonnie Raitt – Singer
    Debbie Reynolds – Actress
    Mary Lou Retton – Former Olympian
    Paul Reiser – Actor
    Peter Reckell – Actor
    Rob Reiner – Actor/Director
    Robert Redford – Actor/Director
    Anne Rice – Writer
    Cathy Rigby – Actress
    Julia Roberts – Actress
    Marc Rosen – TV Producer
    Tim Robbins – Actor
    Tim Roth – Actor
    Renee Russo – Actress
    Robin Ruzan – Wife of Mike Myers
    Meg Ryan – Actress
    Susan Sarandon – Actress
    Jerry Seinfeld – Actor
    Kyra Sedgwick – Actress
    Martin Sheen – Actor
    Russell Simmons – Record Producer
    Neil Simon – Playwright*
    Louise Sorel – Actress
    Mira Sorvino – Actress
    Rena Sofer – Actress
    Britney Spears – Singer
    Bruce Springsteen – Singer
    Kevin Spirtas – Actor
    Barbra Streisand – Singer
    David Steinberg – Director
    Sylvester Stallone – Actor
    Harry Dean Stanton – Actor
    Meryl Streep – Actress
    Patrick Stewart – Actor
    Sharon Stone – Actress
    Sting – Singer
    Trudie Styler – Actress
    Jonathan Taylor Thomas – Actor
    The Temptations – Pop Group
    Vinny Testaverde – NFL player
    Marlo Thomas – Actress*
    Uma Thurman – Actress
    Steve Tisch – Producer
    Mike Torrez – Former Baseball player
    Shania Twain – Singer
    Dick Van Dyke – Actor
    Eli Wallach – Actor*
    Ruth Warrick – Actress
    Harvey Weinstein – Producer
    Jann Wenner – Publisher
    Sigourney Weaver – Actress
    Victor Webster – Actor
    James Whitmore – Actor*
    Andy Williams – Singer*
    Kelli Williams – Actress
    Henry Winkler – Actor
    Oprah Winfrey – Entertainer
    Rita Wilson – Actress
    Vanessa Williams – Singer
    Herman Wouk – Author
    Joanne Woodward – Actress*
    Peter Yarrow – Singer
    Catherine Zeta-Jones – Actres
    Ahmet Zappa -Actor
    Diva Zappa -Actress
    Dweezil Zappa – Musician
    Gail Zappa -
    Moon Zappa -Actress
    * Denotes membership on
    Brady Campaign`s National Committee

    National Figures:

    Joel J. Alpert M.D. – Pediatrician
    Robert Bernstein Ph.D – Pediatrician
    Robert E. Brennan – Financier
    Bishop Edmond Browning – Espiscopal Leader
    James E. Carter – Former President
    Marion Wright Edelman – Director, Childrens Defense Fund
    Michael Eisner, Former Chairman and CEO The Walt Disney Company
    Ahmet Ertegun – Music Producer
    Amitai Etzioni – Teacher
    Tom Freston – MTV President
    Dr. Lorraine E. Hale – Social Worker
    Della M. Hughes – Activist
    Ed Koch – Former Politician
    C. Everett Koop – Former Surgeon General
    Rev. Wallace Ryan Kuroiwa – Clergyman
    Davis S. Liederman – Ex. Dir. Child Welfare League
    Paul Rabbi Menitaff – Clergyman
    Abner Mikva – Former Judge
    Richard Parsons – Pres. Time Warner
    Steven Rockefeller – Financier
    Ellen Y. Rosenberg – Activist
    Rabbi David Saperstein – Clergyman
    Herb Scannel – Pres. Nickelodeon
    Vincent Schiraldi – Dir. Justice Policy Institute
    Lyle Elmer Strom – Federal Judge
    Joe Volk – Clergyman
    Rabbi Eric H. Yoffie – Clergyman

    The following journalists actively
    editorialize in favor of gun control laws:
    Steve Benson – Cartoonist
    Tony Auth – Cartoonist
    Jim Borgman – Cartoonist
    Jimmy Breslin – Columnist
    Stuart Carlson – Cartoonist
    Marie Cocco – Columnist
    E.J. Dionne Jr. – Columnist
    Bonnie Erbe – Columnist
    Tom Fiedler – Columnist
    Michael Gartner – Columnist
    Mark Genrich – Columnist
    James Glassman – Editor
    Bob Herbert – Columnist
    Bill Johnson – Columnist
    Donald Kaul – Columnist
    Mike Lane – Cartoonist
    Leonard Larson – Columnist
    Mike Luckovich – Cartoonist
    Jimmy Margulies – Cartoonist
    Deborah Mathis – Columnist
    Colman McCarthy – Columnist
    Jim Morin – Cartoonist
    Tom Oliphant- Columnist
    Mike Peters – Cartoonist
    Robert Reno – Columnist
    Frank Rich – Columnist
    Cindy Richards – Columnist
    Kevin Siers- Cartoonist
    Ed Stein – Cartoonist
    Tom Teepen – Editor
    Tim Toles – Cartoonist
    Garry Trudeau – Cartoonist
    Cynthia Tucker – Columnist
    Steve Twomey – Columnist
    Steve Villano – Columnist
    Adrienne Washington – Columnist
    Don Wright – Cartoonist

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/the-big-list-of-who-hates-guns/#ixzz2I08tjOOR

  67. 67
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    I am in constant confusion about the American Jews- they seem so intent on self destruction with their constant votes for Democrats. Their support for Øbama, in spite of both his speeches and actions against Israel and the leaders of Israel made not one iota of difference to the American Jewish vote- they almost unanimously supported Øbama. What a foolish group of fantasy believers. The Hagel nomination won´t change any American Jewish minds, either. Øbama could nominate an openly Nazi saluting candidate and the American Jews would still make excuses to support the Democrat. Amazing ethnic blindness.

  68. 68
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator @ #67:

    It’s been my observation that some Jews are very thoughtful about the meaning of their religion, their ethical and philosophical heritage and how these things relate to the world today. They range from Orthodox to Reformed in their perspectives and are usually not at all shy about the fact that they either own guns or at least support those who do.

    Then there are other people. They call themselves Jews, and not being Jewish, I’m not qualified to dispute that. Yet, they seem to care nothing about the lessons of history and view the Holocaust as something they can trot out anytime they feel the need to take the moral high ground in a discussion. They often seem intensely ignorant of their religion (like the young woman I dated in college who insisted that the “Jewish Bible”, as she called it, was “the Koran.”) They seem more interested in using their religion as a path to identity politics (“I’m a Jew, therefore I’m a liberal”) than understanding their own heritage and drawing any conclusions from it.

    There are a lot more of the latter than the former. I have no way to explain this.

  69. 69
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Game over.

  70. 70
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Spin Drift @ #:
    Weepy Boner doesn’t have the balls. The same goes for the entire GOP establishment. It’s past time to get rid of the Boners, McShames, McCockless’s. Fire the whole fucking lot. Fuck the stupid bullshit of the “party”. Sounds like a bunch of commie shit to me, “party”. Wait, it is commie shit. “Vote for the “PARTY”, Only the “PARTY” can stop….”

  71. 71
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    After the state of Wyoming proposed a firearms protection act, Toth decided to file a similar act in the state of Texas. Toth says when the bill passes, it will make it so any federal official who tries to take guns away in the state of Texas would be subject to prosecution. Toth says this act is a means of preventing President Obama from enacting an executive order for gun control.

    “We’ve got an administration in Washington that is just executive order-happy. They are blowing off the Constitution, they’re blowing off our rights, especially our 10th Amendment rights, and are subjecting the states to not even legislation, but edicts by the king.”

    Although the bill is primarily a defense against an executive order, Toth said it would not cover federal overreach, since it would be trumped by the Supremacy Clause. Right now, the bill is being reviewed by lawyers to make sure the bill is “airtight,” before he brings the bill before the House.

    Fuck yeah.

  72. 72
    Spin Drift growls and barks:

    Hey Obama, Get off my lawn!

    Molon Labe

    Hold Fast!

    Spin Drift

  73. 73
    Spin Drift growls and barks:

    Seriously, if the XO comes through and the Texas rep issues articles then we need to inundate our local reps with support for the measure. If you were to make your voice heard this is the Rubicon moment.

    Molon Labe.

    Hold Fast!

    Spin Drift

  74. 74
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Now would be a good time to be speaking with blood in hushed tones, picking targets, and scouting the environs.

    You know.

    Just in case.

  75. 75
    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    LC HJ Caveman82952 @ #52:
    Apparently th4e guy behind it is pretty controversial even in prepper and threeper circles.

  76. 76
    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    Pups, I sent the following to my state Senator, my state Representative, and to the House and Senate leadership of my state. If you guys think it is a good idea, copy and send, or compose your own and send to your state legislators.

    Dear (insert legislator’s name and title)

    Due to the Newtown, CN tragedy, the left, Sen Diane Feinstein, particularly are intent on introducing legislation at the federal level to ban, register, and confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens. This is a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution and a violation of the oath of office all federal elected officials swear.

    In view of this, it would be a very good idea to introduce legislation that:

    Would make it a felony, punishable by not less than 5 years imprisonment and a fine of not less than $100,000 for any federal, state, county, or local law enforcement officer to attempt to confiscate firearms in the State of Oklahoma in an attempt to enforce such a federal law. There will be no time off for good behavior allowed. Once the prison sentence has been finished, the convicted felon should be banished from the state.

    Would make it a felony, punishable by immediate removal from office, and not less than 5 years imprisonment with no time allowed for good behavior, and a fine of not less than $100,000, permanent loss of any pension from the state government, and banishment from the State of Oklahoma, for any member of the Oklahoma State Legislature to introduce legislation to ban and/or register and/or confiscate any firearms, including, but not limited to semi-automatic rifles of any caliber, semi-automatic shotguns of any gauge, semi-automatic pistols of any caliber, and/or revolvers of any caliber.

    Would make it a felony, punishable by immediate removal from office for any judge or justice of the State of Oklahoma to attempt to rule such a law unconstitutional.

    Would make it a felony, punishable by immediate removal from office and banishment from the State of Oklahoma for any federal judge assigned, either permanently or temporarily, to the State of Oklahoma to attempt to rule such legislation to be unconstitutional.

    It is past time for the State of Oklahoma to put the federal government on notice that we will no longer accept any violation of the Constitution by the federal government, particularly, but not limited to the 2nd, 9th, and 10th Amendments.

    Sincerely,

    (insert name and address here)

  77. 77
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Way ahead of you… provided it’s enforced properly. (Emphasis added.)

    2010 Nevada Code
    TITLE 15 CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
    Chapter 207 Miscellaneous Crimes

    NRS 207.190 Coercion.


    1. It is unlawful for a person, with the intent to compel another to do or abstain from doing an act which the other person has a right to do or abstain from doing
    , to:

    (a) Use violence or inflict injury upon the other person or any of the other person’s family, or upon the other person’s property, or threaten such violence or injury;

    (b) Deprive the person of any tool, implement or clothing, or hinder the person in the use thereof; or

    (c) Attempt to intimidate the person by threats or force.

    2. A person who violates the provisions of subsection 1 shall be punished:

    (a) Where physical force or the immediate threat of physical force is used, for a category B felony by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 6 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $5,000.

    (b) Where no physical force or immediate threat of physical force is used, for a misdemeanor.

    [1911 C&P 475; RL 6740; NCL 10424]-(NRS A 1967, 522; 1979, 1455; 1995, 1239)

  78. 78
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Rand Paul vs. King Barack I

    By: John Hayward
    1/15/2013 03:30 PM

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) gave an interview to the Christian Broadcasting Network in which he rather strongly denounced President Obama’s threats to impose gun control through executive orders. ”I’m against having a king,” said the Senator. ”I think having a monarch is what we fought the American Revolution over, and someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress, that’s someone who wants to act like a king or monarch.”

    To be more specific, the notion of suffering rule without representation was a big sticking point with the authors of the Declaration of Independence. Speaking of kings and monarchs is a valid shorthand way of expressing the notion that unitary government is the problem… even if the absolute ruler has to stand for election every four years, and even when he’s limited to two terms in office.

    RELATED: Trump: If GOP doesn’t hold firm ‘country will go to hell’

    Bypassing Congress is an aggressive method of ruling without representation. It’s supposed to be difficult to force sweeping national agendas upon a free people. The modern appetite for swift, “efficient,” all-powerful centralized government is a denial of that principle. It’s tough to find issues where Rand Paul agrees with, say, Harry Reid, isn’t it? Good. That difficulty defines the boundaries of what the federal government is supposed to be doing. Battles over the extension of those boundaries should be nice and vicious. The American people deserve no less.

    What makes a “king?” It’s not the means by which he takes the throne, or the length of time he remains there. The threat of punishment at the ballot box in four years is not a sufficient check on executive power, especially for a President who will never again face the voters.

    What is “taxation without representation?” Ask your grandchildren, when they are taxed through the nose to pay off deranged spending commitments they weren’t alive to oppose.

    I see nothing wrong with invoking the language of the American Revolution, when it is so clearly still in progress.

  79. 79
  80. 80
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Just wanted to let you know – today I received my Fiscal Cliff Survival Pack from the White House.

    It contained a parachute, an ‘Obama Hope & Change’ bumper sticker, a ‘Bush’s Fault’ yard sign, a ‘Blame Boehner’ poster, a ‘Tax the Rich’ banner, an application for unemployment, an application for food stamps, a prayer rug, a letter of assignation of debt to my grandchildren and if that was not enough, there was a coupon for a machine that blows smoke up my ass. Everything was made in “China” and all directions were in Spanish.

    Keep an eye out. Yours should arrive soon.

  81. 81
  82. 82
    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    I saw that this morning Glad, sent out an e-mail to all my freinds. As for my investment bank only, Wells Fargo, managing only my money market fund, it shared by four different groups. So far, so good, I check daily. My local, regional bank here has all my business. They have treated me extremely well and have an excellent financial rating. None of these get rich quick schemes. Any move in a similar direction by Wells, that money will be in my checking account the same day….all of it.

  83. 83
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    This ones for Crunchie and other Military pron guys !

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9780450/Inside-the-F-35-the-futuristic-fighter-jet.html

  84. 84
    Spin Drift growls and barks:

    It’s 3:00 pm Chicago time, teh one has decreed that he will use the bodies of dead children to futher his goal of total takeover of the ciitizens of the United States. Can’t happen here you say, well this is about step 8 in the process of turning you into a slave to the state. Pay income tax that gets redistributed to the great unwashed? You’re a slave. Buy stuff you don’t want like health insurance, you’re a slave. Take your shoes off to ride a plane? You’re a slave. Not a member of a protected class and get screwed out of a business opportunity, you’re a slave. Kill a bad guy who looks like teh one’s son who was trying to kill you and get thrown in jail, you’re a slave.

    It’s about time to “Cry Havoc and release the dogs of war.” I for one will not live my life on my knees. I’m getting to the sunset of my years and will leave the legacy of a free United States to my progeny and their progeny even if it means that I die trying. You’ll know who I am by the mountain of brass at my feet.

    It is good for government for that government to fear it citizens. All other conditions lead to the tyranny of the few over the many.

    Molon Labe!

    Hold Fast!

    Spin Drift

  85. 85
    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Here is a sampling of where these decrees this can go: http://www.dethguild.com/the-furers-edicts/

    1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

    - What this means:
    This will set the stage for medical records getting reviewed by the various agencies of the federal government.

    2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

    - What this means:
    A: Remove state barriers to sharing medical records with the various agencies of the federal government.
    B: Opening a path for insurance companies to require special plans for gun owners. Sounds expensive.

    3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

    - What this means:
    Bribe states to provide medical records to the various agencies of the federal government. Wavers, grants, you name it – they’ll use tax-dollars creatively.

    4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

    - What this means:
    All that information they will be collecting in sections 2-3? This will be used to part as many people as possible from their second amendment privileges.

    5. Propose rule-making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

    - What this means:
    If the authorities take possession of a weapon, they can check medical records to discover reasons to never return it.

    6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

    - What this means:
    "Encourage" the sporting goods chains and big-box stores to consult these newly collected records for reasons to deny a sale. Expect "Guidance" to become

    "Require" shortly after the next shooting.

    7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

    - What this means:
    Your tax dollars will be used to manufacture a publicly funded Anti-NRA.

    8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

    - What this means:
    Lean on producers of gun locks and gun safes. This will make them more expensive. Recall that many states have regulations w/regards to weapon storage. The idea is to increase the up-front expense of owning a firearm.

    9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

    - What this means:
    The various federal agencies will use this as an excuse to pilfer the records of FFL license holders when a weapon they sold is used in a crime. De-facto registration.

    10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

    - What this means:
    You lost your AR-15 in a tragic boating accident and reported it stolen? Now they can easily check if you are in violating USC, Title 18, Section 1001.

    11. Nominate an ATF director.

    - What this means:
    I’m positive Obama will select a true champion of gun rights.

    12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

    - What this means:
    Unless they are going to arm groups 2-3, don’t expect much here beyond suspensions for playing cowboys and Indians. It’s not in their interest to meaningfully stop gun-violence.

    13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

    - What this means:
    Expect every trivial violation of federal gun law to be pursued with all the forgivness, mercy, compassion, and tenderness of a bull shark.

    14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

    - What this means:
    Concoct a list of every possible medical condition, drug, or mental health issue that can be used as rational to deny sale of /seize weapons.

    15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

    - What this means:
    Pressure to coerce firearm manufacturers into neutering products. May be a framework for mandatory regulations down the road. Might also be a womb for litigation should the companies ignore these "suggestions."

    16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

    - What this means:
    Re-writing the Affordable Care Act to remove language inserted by Harry Reid w/regards to health records. This should not be possible through executive order. Unless congress will impeach, and senate will convict, will happen regardless.

    17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

    - What this means:
    Informing doctors they have permission to ignore the law. Should make for plenty of fun litigation down the road. Any Dr. taking this advice had better have insurance up to date and attorney on speed-dial.

    18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

    - What this means:
    Unless these "officers" are armed, consider them nothing more than feel-good C.Y.A anti-gun propagandists. As well as mandatory reporters if they can coax a child into talking about parental firearms.

    19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

    - What this means:
    C.Y.A. Dog squat. Will provide a nice excuse to militarize the various federal agencies though. Expect more RFP’s for Dept. Edu Remington 870′s.

    20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

    - What this means:
    Expand medical coverage to a positively dazzling number of mental health ailments. Which will be recorded, and used as a reason to deny/seize firearms.

    21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

    - What this means:
    Provides a pretext to implement 1, 2, 3, 16, 17, 20, 23. Legality questionable. Will be challenged the second someone has proper standing. In several years.

    22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

    - What this means:
    See 21.

    23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

    - What this means:
    Demonize and propagandize a wide swath of mental issues, illnesses, and medications to squelch the outcry when they start disarming people.

  86. 86
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Citizens File Articles of Impeachment Against Obama
    For sedition against the Constitution

    “When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776.

    There can no longer be any doubt – the forces of tyranny are running wild across our once great Republic. The time has come for all good men and women to rally to the aid of their country. We have now entered a historic crossroads that will decide the destiny of the United States. Arrogance and corruption has long festered in Washington DC, but the last decade has seen an extreme acceleration of criminal looting and attacks on liberty – every freedom is under sustained assault.

    We the People, the rightful masters of this Republic, will either rise up through Congress and the states or we can trade in our birthright of liberty for the chains of a technocratic slavery. Below we list some of the more egregious acts of seditious treason against the Republic of the United States. Anyone who wishes to continue to live in a free country and to pass that birthright on to their children must research this document and then lobby state legislatures and the Congress to do their duty and remove the would-be dictator.

    The time has now come for a bill of impeachment to be introduced and debated in Congress. Obama’s crimes are public, and the debate in the House will serve as a court in which to display the tyrannical activities of President Obama and his cohorts. As in the case of Richard Nixon, the exposure of Obama’s crimes may cause him to resign in disgrace. If he does not step down, the full House will then vote to begin the impeachment trial in the US Senate. The time has now come to make your decision – to stand up to evil or get on your knees as a willing slave.

    Articles of Impeachment Against Barack Hussein Obama – Filed by Citizen Alexander Emric Jones, January 15, 2013.

    - He has clearly communicated his intent to eviscerate the second amendment rights of American citizens by pursuing executive orders to curtail the right to keep and bear arms without congressional authorization and in violation of the second amendment.

    Below, Congressman Stockman has pledged to move for impeachment against Obama. I am standing up against Obama right beside him, will you?

    “The President’s actions are an existential threat to this nation,” reads a statement by Rep. Steve Stockman. “The right of the people to keep and bear arms is what has kept this nation free and secure for over 200 years. The very purpose of the Second Amendment is to stop the government from disallowing people the means to defend themselves against tyranny. Any proposal to abuse executive power and infringe upon gun rights must be repelled with the stiffest legislative force possible.”

    - He has aided America’s enemies, violating his oath, by sending funds to insurgents in Syria who are being commanded by Al-Qaeda terrorists.

    - He has violated federal law by overseeing a cover-up surrounding Operation Fast and Furious, the transfer of guns to Mexican drug cartels direct from the federal government.

    - He has lied to the American people by overseeing a cover-up of the Benghazi attack which directly led to the deaths of four American citizens. The cover-up has been called “Obama’s Watergate,” yet four months after the incident, no one in the administration has been held accountable.

    - He has brazenly undermined the power of Congress by insisting his authority came from the United Nations Security Council prior to the attack on Libya and that Congressional approval was not necessary. “I don’t even have to get to the Constitutional question,” said Obama. This is an act that “constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution,” according to Congressman Walter Jones.

    - He has flagrantly violated article 1, section 9, clause 8 of the Constitution by accepting rotating status as chairman of the United Nations Security Council. The clause states, “No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States; and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall without consent of Congress accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

    - He has ignored Congressional rejection of the cybersecurity bill and instead indicated he will pursue an unconstitutional executive order.

    - He has signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act which includes provisions that permit the abduction and military detention without trial of U.S. citizens, violating Habeas Corpus. Despite Obama claiming he would not use the provisions to incarcerate U.S. citizens, it was his administration that specifically demanded these powers be included in the final NDAA bill.

    - He has enacted universal health care mandates that force Americans to buy health insurance, a clear violation of the Constitution in exceeding congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. Obama has also handed out preferential waivers to corporations friendly to his administration.

    - He has declared war on America’s coal industry by promising to bankrupt any company that attempts to build a new coal plant while using unconstitutional EPA regulations to strangle competition, ensuring Americans see their energy costs rise year after year.

    - He has violated the Constitution’s Takings and Due Process Clauses when he bullied the secured creditors of automaker Chrysler into accepting 30 cents on the dollar while politically connected labor unions and preferential others received better deals.

    - He has violated Article II of the Constitution by using signing statements as part of his executive usurpation of power.

    “I will seek to thwart this action by any means necessary, including but not limited to eliminating funding for implementation, defunding the White House, and even filing articles of impeachment.”

    Rep. Steve Stockman, Texas.

    For these, and other offenses which constitute high crimes and misdemeanors, including perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, conduct unbecoming and refusal to obey a lawful order, we call for the immediate impeachment of Barack H. Obama.

  87. 87
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Listened to this song an thought it “fitting”…..

    We walk the walk, like we’re 10 feet tall,
    Hide in the tree tops of the timber, deliver death to all
    We talk the talk, our voice is thunder,
    My mission here is truly clear, I am the butcher
    We are the shadow storm, rolling defenders,
    Filled with piss and pride, and a courage unprecedented

    It’s time to man up, when you’ve got a man down
    It’s time to man up, never leave a man down
    I’ve got your back and you’ve got mine,
    As long as we stand together,
    Everything’s gonna be alright
    I’ll keep you high when you get low,
    Just a band of brothers raising hell,
    Like a murder of crows

    We’ve got the skills, we’ve got the know how,
    We bring a fury that makes you bow down,
    My blood is poison, pumping through my veins,
    Stalking like a madman killer, we bring the pain
    I’d die for all of you, it’s my destiny,
    My killer instinct, iron man with a war face scream

    We’ve got the look, and it’s open season,
    We’ve got that thousand yard stare,
    And all we need is a reason
    We’re locked and loaded, full metal jacket
    We’re in the shit and we love it,
    Let’s motherfucking do this

    HELLYEAH “Band of Brothers”

  88. 88
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Little Barry looks to have picked the wrong fight, indeed. Maybe this is just the start of the little feller’s fall from his lofty perch. I know I’m one of the few, but I still think Benghazi is going to bite this creep in the butt. Hillary might skate, due to the boo boo on her head, and a pass from McCain….but I’ve read about McCain’s time in Vietnam…I just don’t believe that knowing Obama let those men die begging for help for a POLITICAL REASON sits well with him. McCain has let me down in the past….here is hoping he stands up for what is right and exposes EXACTLY what happened in Benghazi. As a lot here would agree, Benghazi STINKS, from Obama partay-ing the day after in Las Vegas, Rice and the Sunday shows, arresting the dope who made the video, to Hillary’s boo boo…..As Judge Judy says: It doesn’t make sense. And if it doesn’t make sense it’s probably not true.

    I smell impeachment, removal from office and I guess a lot of civil unrest. That is code for all the thugs that look like Obama’s son to go on a spree at Foot Locker to redistribute some wealth and burn their own neighborhoods to the ground. Oh, well–let the games begin. The country needs a good shaking out. We’ve fallen pretty far.

  89. 89
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) will propose legislation early next week to “nullify” President Barack Obama’s executive actions on guns, the senator announced on Fox News’ “Hannity” Wednesday.

    Paul told host Sean Hannity that Obama’s executive orders are a breach of constitutional separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches.

    “Our founding fathers were very concerned about us having separation of powers,” Paul said. “They didn’t want to let the president become a king…In this bill, we will nullify anything the president does that smacks of legislation.”

    “There are several of the executive orders that appear as if he is writing new law. That cannot happen…The court struck Clinton down for trying this.”

    Paul also said it concerning that Obama seems to be developing some sort of a “king complex.”

    Talking Points Memo has reviewed a one-page summary of Paul’s proposed legislation, titled “Separation of Powers Restoration and Second Amendment Protection Act.” TPM has more:

    “We only have descriptions of the executive actions, yet many could be construed to describe an attempt by the executive to make laws in violation of the Article 1, Sec. 8 of the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment,” reads the one-page summary of the Paul plan shared with TPM by his staff.

    Paul’s bill will set out to nullify Obama’s executive actions, deny any federal funding for their implementation, and allow members of Congress and state officials to challenge the actions in court.

    Paul conceded that Democrats in the Senate, who hold the majority, would likely not back his proposal.

    “This idea of checks and balances and separation of powers should be a fundamental one,” he said. “I’m afraid that there isn’t much support on the Democratic side, but we’ll see.”

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    LC hilljohnny growls and barks:

    it seems the new New York magazine ban does not exempt the police.
    http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/01/oops-were-there-not-leo-magazine-exemptions-in-the-rushed-ny-safe-act/
    :em05:


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