December 7th

She still weeps for her dead.

25 comments

  1. 1
    dcs2244 growls and barks:

    1,177 sailors and marines still at their stations aboard the Arizona. RIP.

  2. 2
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    After seeing where we are today as a country…you have to ask the question “Was their sacrifice worth it?” Especially after this little tidbit hit my Twitter box this morning:

    K-pop star PSY once advocated ‘slowly and painfully’ killing US soldiers

    He has the most-watched YouTube video ever (more than 900 million views), and is set to perform at the White House later this month.

    PSY Rap:

    Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives

    Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture

    Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers

    Kill them all slowly and painfully

  3. 3

    LC Light29ID: It may yet need to be inspiration for us all in the future.

    Rest In Peace.
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  4. 4
    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    What can you say?
    It seems so inadequate….
    For those of us old enough to remember..
    Our fathers and their sacrifice…
    For no man can give more….
    You have your place in eternity, guys…
    Regardless of what happens here…
    And in the hearts of grateful Americans…..
    It seems so inadequate,,,,,
    But Thank You just the same……
    Rest in Peace……..I’d be more than happy to buy you a cold one on the other side…

  5. 5
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID says:

    After seeing where we are today as a country…you have to ask the question “Was their sacrifice worth it?” Especially after this little tidbit hit my Twitter box this morning:

    K-pop star PSY once advocated ‘slowly and painfully’ killing US soldiers

    He has the most-watched YouTube video ever (more than 900 million views), and is set to perform at the White House later this month.

    PSY Rap:

    Kill those fucking Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives

    Kill those fucking Yankees who ordered them to torture

    Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers

    Kill them all slowly and painfully

    I have to assume PSY is a so-called “rap star”. That entire culture needs to disappear from the face of the earth along with those who would further and protect that culture’s ends.
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  6. 6
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID says:

    After seeing where we are today as a country…you have to ask the question “Was their sacrifice worth it?”

    Now I’m not going to deny that that very question has been on my mind as well from time to time, and more so as our society sinks ever deeper into the “me, me, me, ME! GIMME, GIMME, GIMME!” mentality but, of course, the answer will always be:

    Yes. HELL YEAH!

    The gift they bought us with their blood was, is and will ever be worth it. What following generations have done with that gift is irrelevant to the value of the gift itself.

    And if, as must be the case when one loves one’s country more than life itself, thoughts of “fuck it all, they might as well not have fought so hard and so long to give their kids and grandkids this, seeing as how the ungrateful rugrats just broke it all to pieces” pop to mind, then the proper response to those thoughts must also be:

    “Fuck it? No. A thousand times no! This gift was bought too dearly to just watch it get thrown out with the trash! We’ll fix it if it’s the LAST thing we do or be forever damned for having not even tried. WE didn’t break it, but it’s ours as much as anybody’s, so WE WILL FIX IT or die trying. Dammit!”

    To those generations that went before us and, on this day in particular, to everybody who fought and died to pay back the Japanese for Pearl Harbor (and paid them back we did. With interest!), I’ll say this:

    “I can’t thank you enough for what you did and I’m very, very sorry for the state that the nation you fought and died for is in today, but perhaps devoting all that I have in me to fix it can be considered a modest down payment. G-d bless you, G-d bless our Armed Forces today who have picked up the torch and followed in your footsteps, and G-d bless the United States of America.”

    Now, I am not a Marine, I have never earned that honor, but I hope that I can be forgiven for ending this in the only way that seems appropriate to me:

    OO-RAH!
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  7. 7
    Orion growls and barks:

    We’ll fix it, Misha.

    A lot of folks are ready and just waiting for the rest of the unit to show up so we can get started.

    Orion

  8. 8
    bruce growls and barks:

    my wife’s uncle carlos was at schofield barracks when they were attacked by the japs but the sargent would not open the ammo locker with out permission.he changed his mind when they were strafed by a jap plane.my wife and i never forget pearl harbor day.

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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    For sure, my father and uncle will never forget Dec 7th. My duaghter did not understand the significance of the phrase, “A Day that will live in Infamy” when I said it to her yesterday! Public school indoctrination education…

    OUR fight has not come upon us suddenly, but crept up slowly. We must and WILL fight back. :em07:

    Keep the faith, everybody!

  10. 10
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    I ask the question because two generations away from the “Greatest Generation” we have created an America that is not worth one ounce the blood and toil that our forefathers went through. All those generations thought that what they were doing and sacrificing was for their children only to see their children suffer their own heartbreaks.

    The Pilgrims suffered famine alone in the wilderness so that their children would have religious freedom.
    Their children were the ones who by blood forged a civilization out of a wilderness that fought the French and Indians.
    Their children were the ones who would initiate a revolution that severed its ties to the Old Country forever and was given no chance of making it.
    Their children were the ones who pushed West, lead by Lewis and Clark that lead to the 2000 mile migration over the Oregon Trail with only a couple of oxen, a wagon and the hope of a new life and nothing else.
    They then had watch in horror their children slaughter each other at Antietam, The Wilderness, Fredericksberg, Gettysburg and Cold Harbor and then tame and open the West.
    The veterans of the Civil War watched their children, along with millions of emigrants with nothing but the clothes on their backs, turn America from a backward agrarian society into a industrial colossus unrivaled since the glory days of Rome with steel, electricity, oil, copper, iron, finance and inventions unleashed unknown since the time of da Vinci.
    They then, in turn, watched in horror their children endure a Depression, Dust Bowl and then have to pick up a rifle and crush murderous tyrants all over the globe and then bring peace to world that had only known war for thousands of years to rise up and earn the “the Greatest Generation”.

    But yet the dream that our forefathers had was make it better for my children was never realized until the last 50 years. And what do we have to show for 300 years of blood, toil and heartache? The only thing that our generation can point to is we went to the moon and even then it wasn’t a danger shared by an entire generation but a select few. But we can point to a narcissistic, cold, ungrateful bunch of bastards that isn’t even deserving to have the freedoms that were handed down from one bloody hand to the next. They looked at that bloody piece of paper and said “eeewwww gross” and walked away to check their iPads for directions to welfare office and schedule their next abortion while our masters annihilate the future of the next ten generations with the same cold thought process as the Humidor.

    The conclusion that I’ve come to is that our children can never have it “better that we did”. In order for us to keep, cherish and protect our freedoms each generation must endure our own test of blood and heartache. We may not be guilty individually of the deeds of our generation but as a collective whole we share the blame that is, in some ways, akin to the guilt shared forever by every German in the last 60 years. We’re guilty of our own hubris.

    Every previous generation had to be reminded that what we have was a gift because they had to suffer as a generation. What we have running around now are nothing more than spoiled little brats who need the shit beat out them and are neither deserving or entitled to the freedoms that we have.

    I just don’t see any other way.

  11. 11
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    Silence and respect.

  12. 12
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID says:

    Every previous generation had to be reminded that what we have was a gift because they had to suffer as a generation. What we have running around now are nothing more than spoiled little brats who need the shit beat out them and are neither deserving or entitled to the freedoms that we have.

    I just don’t see any other way.

    Well said, all of it.

    I have always believed firmly that this great nation of ours would have never survived except for the Providence of G-d. Just look at how we started out. A rag tag band of farmers with muskets defeating the single greatest power of the planet at the time. Look at our ‘fleet’ of frigates beating the shit out of ships of the line. Look at Pearl, where the single most decisive weapon of WWII (and nobody knew that it would be at the time), our carriers, just happened to be away on maneuvers on December 7th. Look at Midway, when a bunch of pilots just happened upon the main Japanese fleet.

    There’s Coincidence™ and then there’s Plan™.

    We, as a society, not you or I, have spent the last half century ignoring all of that, denying that there is something greater than us (to me it’s G-d, to others it may be something else) that has favored us all along because we followed the path of liberty. We have turned our backs on it, ridiculed it, sanctified ourselves instead and we are now reaping a bitter harvest because those powers, whatever they may be, have decided to turn their backs on us too.

    Nobody wants to stay where he or she is not appreciated.
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  13. 13
    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Excellent, Sire. And we will be taken down a peg ot two as a result. The grasshoppers looking to consume the ants.
    There is conflict coming, of what sort I cannot say…….but the more they reach for, and they will, the greater the growing rsistance.

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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID @ #:

    I was at Pearl Harbor last year for the 50th anniversary. One of the most moving experiences of my life.

    Remember this: as long as the USS Arizona remains at anchor (and the sadder USS Utah across Ford Island), the soul of America has a defiant marker against tyranny. Those men still aboard continue to serve and fulfill their oaths.

    For now their bones cry out from the depths of that harbor, “Remember us…that we gave our last full measure of devotion for the hope of liberty and self-government. We died for America.”

    -Jim+

  15. 15
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain says:

    Excellent, Sire. And we will be taken down a peg ot two as a result.

    Yes, we will. We deserve the spanking. And we’ll build something better on top of that mess.

    Because that’s what separates us from them. We KNOW that the drive for liberty, that liberty itself, will always, always succeed in the end and kick the arses of those who would deny it to others.

    The totalitarians of the world will win temporary victories along that road when we all grow complacent and start taking liberty for granted, a state of nature that we’re entitled to and which needs no efforts, but those ‘victories’ will always remain just that: Temporary.

    Endless, hopeless, interminable to those living through those dark times, to be sure, just ask the Russians who didn’t see even a hint of liberty for 74 years after 1917, but nevertheless the human drive for self-determination will, WILL win out in the end.

    So what if we’re at the beginning of a long, dark age? We may very well be, I don’t particularly think so and I certainly don’t hope that we are, but so what?

    Should we then, seeing the light fade with the possibility that we won’t see them turn back on again in our lifetimes, decide that it’s all for shit so let’s just fuck it all and let posterity take care of it if they want?

    I say no. I’m not in it for personal gain, I’m not in it because of a promise that I’ll see my fight come to fruition while I’m still breathing. Maybe that’s because I signed up knowing that, should the then quite powerful Soviet Union decide to attack, I was already dead because I put my name on the dotted line. I had no doubt that what I stood for would win in the end, but I also knew that I wouldn’t be around to see it. That wasn’t important. If it had been, I wouldn’t have put my scribble on the dotted line.

    I lucked out. The shit didn’t come to pass, thanks to Ronald Maximus, but I. DIDN’T. KNOW. THAT. As a matter of fact, I and everybody else pretty much knew that he was going to push the bear to the point where they’d start the shit. And we’d be dead. Our allies would eventually shut down the commie bastards, but that would be after we’d assumed room temperature. Our job was to slow the socialist swine down and make them pay dearly, buying time for our allies. And that was perfectly fine. It was worth it.

    And it’s worth it now.

    I’m not looking for fame and fortune, I’m not looking for a spot on CNN or a job at National Review, I just know what I believe in and I know that I’m not going to back down from that. I’m not looking for a resounding victory in my lifetime even though I would dearly like to see that, mainly because I’d love to see my kids taken care of before I shuffle off this mortal coil, but I don’t expect it.

    I, like all of us, am going to die. I just want to make sure, I just hope and pray, that I will die for something, rather than just die.

    That’s what I signed up for. It’s what I am. I don’t expect instant gratification although I’m highly appreciative when I get it, I just want to be able to say that I did what I could for what I believed in, regardless of the odds.

    It’s easy to choose a side that’s winning just because they’re winning. It’s much harder to choose a side that appears to be losing just because you think it’s right.

    “Just” because.

    If it’s right, it’s right. You need no excuses. And if you win, you win. If you lose, you still win. Because you didn’t choose the easy way out over your personal convictions.

    We WILL weather this storm if we quit pretending that it’s going to be easy.

    We let the enemy organize against everything this nation stands for for a century because we were busy doing other stuff.

    To expect that we can undo that in a matter of months or even a couple of years is idiotic.

    And to decide that it doesn’t matter because we can’t do that is pathetic.

    Stand your ground, believe in yourselves and know that it doesn’t matter whether you win or lose, what matters is what side you were on.
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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain @ #:

    I was at Pearl Harbor last year for the 50th anniversary

    Of what? :em03:

  17. 17
    LC Spare Parts growls and barks:

    Last year was the 70th….
    But I digress. Time to reread Infamy by John Toland and at Dawn We Slept. Attend me a moment pups.
    I will tell you of a gentleman who spent most of his life after attempting to clear the names of Admiral Kimmel and General Short who were put up for slaughter by the War Dept. and Navy Dept. to give FDR political cover. Fred Canning lived on my route, and was one of three civilian employees of Western Union who was cleared for both Magic and Ultra code communications because his job was to keep the Purple Analog functioning. He allowed me to read a letter from Admiral Kimmel and showed me copies of his portfolio which Toland used researching his book ,(now on file at the University of Wyoming). Even though Admiral Kimmel’s grandson discounted his records, I believe the attack was allowed to happen in order to generate demand for involvement of this country in the war in Europe. The Reich was happy to oblige and let Roosevelt dodge that inconvenience. And the sad resulting upshot is, that shedding American blood for the benefit of Liberal Democrats is perfectly acceptable to this day. Ask the widow of the late Ambassador to Libya. The history we learned was not the whole story. Today it is reviled through revision and Leftist cant.
    And if you happen to go through Dayton, stop at the code breaking museum at the old NCR complex. On display is one of the two remaining Bombe processors used to obtain the signature keys in decrypting Ultra radio messages from Admiral Doenitz to his U Boats. Then have the prime rib at the Pine Club on Brown St. if it’s still there next year. They don’t take plastic or reservations.
    Hope St Nicholas filled your shoes or stockings with goodies today.

  18. 18
    LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd growls and barks:

    LC Spare Parts @ #17:

    There’s at least one line of thought that FDR was spoiling for war with Japan in part because of the failure of the New Deal.

    America started off in a better position than Europe during the Great Depression, yet our recovery was far slower. (Unemployment actually increased under FDR until around 1940 and the run up to Lend-Lease.) We were systematically strangling Japanese trade. This created fertile ground for Japanese militarization and obtaining resources through outright conquest.

    Some have said that seeing the economic prospects inherent in a nice, tidy little war with Japan, FDR was more than willing to involve us in a war in Europe, despite having been an open admirer of Mussolini. It’s worth remembering that Lend-Lease fell just short of an act of war and holding naval exercises off the coast of Tokyo was extremely provocative. Yet, the American media did little to portray it that way.

    Had it not been for Yamamoto, FDR might have gotten his wish for a limited war in the Pacific. Yamamoto realized (correctly) that the outcome of the war would be decided on the first day. If a crippling strike was made at Pearl Harbor, the Japanese would have time to consolidate their lines and the US might have sued for peace. Failing that, Japan would settle into a war of attrition that she would likely lose. He mentioned this in his private writings, careful never to allow his doubts to be made public.

    Again, some have held that FDR, for his part, apparently didn’t think that an attack would come to Hawaii. The Philippines and Guam were considered more likely and essentially expendable.

    No one should mistake the loss of life at Pearl Harbor or the acts of valor there for a meaningless political gesture. My wife’s grandfather fought at Tarawa, Saipan and Okinawa. If you got him in the right mood, he’d tell you stories of courage and horror that would leave you silent for the rest of the day.

    At the same time, we should keep in mind that “history is a list of consequences.” As we remember and mourn the loss of our honored dead, we should pause a moment to ask if their sacrifices could have been avoided, and if so, how.

    Perhaps I and others have been too hard on FDR. Regardless, I’m loathe to carry a dime in my pocket.

  19. 19
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    For a man who holds a special place in my heart. Who answered the call. My Grandfathers foot stone.
    He never would talk about it. Never joined the VFW, or any of the vets groups.

  20. 20
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Why We Fight.

    Imperial Japan’s true nature — read here at “the Battling Bastards of Bataan”* about the Sack of Manila: http://www.battlingbastardsbataan.com/som.htm

    (This account of the wholesale destruction of Manila and its people is based on affidavits of victims and eyewitnesses of Japanese atrocities. Their testimony was collected by U. S. forces which liberated Manila. The affidavits were contained in a report made to the War Department by the Commander-in-Chief of the Southwest Pacific Area. For the sake of brevity, the actual wording of the original affidavits has been in most cases condensed, but the stark facts are exactly as related under oath. For security reasons, many of the persons making affidavits must remain unidentified.)

    Manila has been destroyed. The once proud city of the Far East is dead. Its churches, convents, and universities are piles of rubble, bombed and burned beyond recognition. Its civilian population have been raped and burned, starved and murdered, its women mutilated, its babies bayoneted.

    The order that brought this about came directly from Tokyo. Reliable evidence based on interrogation of prisoners of war, military personnel, Philippine officials and civilians, and Japanese documents reveals the staggering fact that the Sack of Manila and its attendant horrors were not the act of a crazed garrison in a last-ditch, berserk defense, but the coldly planned purpose of the Japanese high command.

    Read the story at the link. WWII buff though I am, I did NOT know this one. (Warning: the photographs are grisly in the extreme.)

    [Those of you who don't know the nickname of the Battling Bastards of Bataan, do a search for it. I won't use the G word, because those cocksuckers won't honor Memorial Day.]

  21. 21
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    In MY America, we used to learn this famous poem in school. Kinda says it all.

    “If”

    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too:
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim,
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same:.
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build’em up with worn-out tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
    And never breathe a word about your loss:
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on!”

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much:
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
    And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

    Rudyard Kipling

  22. 22
    Orion growls and barks:

    @Tallulah:

    Thank you. I needed that.

    Orion

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Tallulah..#20.which is why I never felt a shred of sympathy or guilt for the use of nuclear weapons twice, or the massive firebombing of Tokyo by a fleet of B29′s, incinerating an entire city. . It is against our nature, but two can play that game…..my dads year in a German POW camp, and his related experience, also did the same regarding Dresden….if that ever happened on American soil, to Americans…….I’ll leave the rest unsaid. .

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    LC HJ Caveman82952 says:

    Tallulah..#20.which is why I never felt a shred of sympathy or guilt for the use of nuclear weapons twice, or the massive firebombing of Tokyo by a fleet of B29?s, incinerating an entire city. . It is against our nature, but two can play that game…..my dads year in a German POW camp, and his related experience, also did the same regarding Dresden….if that ever happened on American soil, to Americans…….I’ll leave the rest unsaid. .

    If it happened on American soil now, our “friends” in government would be working overtime looking for someone, to which they could apologize.
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    bruce growls and barks:

    on my birthday and the day after, bombs away la may’s 1,000 plane raid on tokyo killed more japs than the A bombs.mcarthur hung the jap commander of Manila and killed most of the japs in the philippines.a few years ago i was at work on pearl harbor day and i heard some young people talking about how we should not have dropped the bomb on the japs because the war was almost over.so i said to these public school grads. imagine it is jan.1945 and you are on the first landing boat heading for the on the jap island of honshu beside you are two stitches one lowers the ramp the other drops the bomb.your choice.