Cloward-Piven, Have You HEARD Of It, Motherfucker?

Something we desperately want to ask every single “pundit” on the so-called “right” whenever they go into deep, deep, thoughtful analyses about what “leverage” the GOP might have in the “Fiscal Cliff” negotiations.

You, you over-educated morons who have not the slightest experience with, and even less understanding of, how the left operates, need to just sit you privileged arses down and shut the fuck up while people who know what they’re talking about speak because, quite frankly, you’re only making yourselves look foolish every single damn time you open your ignorant yaps.

The Democrat Socialist Party in general, and Hussein BlightBringer Ogabe in particular, have not the least bit of interest in NOT going over that “cliff.”

Cloward-Piven again. Google it, you pampered fuckwads who were lucky enough to grow up in a country where you could delude yourselves with “it could never happen HERE” until it actually, you know, HAPPENED. You’re so pathetically sub-moronic that we’re getting a bit tired of repeating ourselves but, seeing as the “I told you so” drum is the only comfort we’re going to have as this nation descends into what we warned you against for well over a decade while you were busy singing “la-la-la, I can’t HEAR you”, we’re going to do so anyway.

Leftist totalitarianism can only, only succeed if you have enough under-educated twits in the middle of a giant collapse. Look at the Weimar Republic. You’ve heard of it, haven’t you, or were you too fucking busy jacking off to Family Ties? Russia 1917? No, Lenin and his posse wouldn’t have had much traction if Tsarist Russia hadn’t been a pile of Epic Fail thanks to an obsolete feudal system combined with a losing position in a world war. Surely you must have heard about THAT war, no?

And if they HAVEN’T got that, they’ll make one of their own. That’s what Cloward-Piven was all about, and they were even courteous enough to spell it out in large neon letters right in front of your faces for you.

OK, I get it. You’d been spared so far, but now the shit has hit the fan and it’s way beyond time to recognize that the leftist have what they want and they’re stomping down on the accelerator.

Kindly quit fooling yourselves into thinking that the Democrat Fascist Party have the slightest inclination to do the right thing, because that’s exactly what they do NOT want at this point. They’re exactly where they want to be. The system has to crash so they can come in and respond to the desperate cries of “somebody’s gotta do SOMETHING!” Because when people are starving, they don’t give two good shits about what the “solutions” are going to cause, they just want another meal.

The Democrat Socialist Fascists WANT the fiscal cliff to happen, because it will give them every single excuse they need to transform this nation into Venezuela.

But what they want even MORE is for the dickless GOP to cave in to a “compromise” with Weepy Boner at the head of it so they can blame the GOP for everything that will inevitably happen. They’ll then say “well, we WANTED to save the nation, but the GOP’s intransigence, which we had to yield to for the Common Good™, made our brilliant plan crash and burn.”

Oh, they’ll blame the GOP no matter what, make no mistake, but it’s kind of hard to do so if said GOP can say, right up front, that they gave Ogabe everything he wanted.

Any “compromise” in this situation is a loss. Give them what they want. Just vote “present” on it and let the National Socialist Democrat Workers’ Party own every last bit of it.

We’re too far down the road to avoid that cliff now, we can blame that on ourselves for not having fought the commie bastards hard enough (it would be horrible to have a negative column in the New York Slimes, after all, who gives a shit about our children being slaves compared to that?), but let’s at least not leave our fingerprints on the inevitable collapse, m’kay?

And if Weepy Boner and Mitch McCockless refuse to see that, if they still leave their prints on a “Grand Bargain”, then let us announce that we’ll be celebrating just as hard seeing their limp carcasses dangling in the wind after their fair and speedy trials, shit running down their ankles, right next to BlightBringer Hussein Ogabe.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Thatisall.

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LC Xystus
LC Xystus

Give them what they want. Just vote “present” on it and let the National Socialist Democrat Workers’ Party own every last bit of it. Der Fubar has reportedly included a request that Congress give up its authority to raise the debt ceiling so he can spend whatever the Niflheim he wants. Passing that, as some commentator suggested, might amount to… Read more »

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

Might I add just one more thing? President Obama is reportedly scheduled to be vacationing in Hawaii on January 2, the date billions in spending cuts – and untold consequences for the economy – will kick in if a deal is not reached on the “fiscal cliff.” According to the Hawaii Reporter, residents who live in the area of Oahu… Read more »

LC HJ Caveman82952
LC HJ Caveman82952

Finally, somebody told it like it is! Thanks, Sire! I do not believe for one microsecond the democrats will compromise in the slightest. Why should they? Defense cuts they want, social spending cuts they will blame on us. It’s a win-win for them. Now I’m at the point I just prepare for economic/social mayhem, hunker down and ride it out.… Read more »

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

On the money, as always, Emperor. The Democrats have stacked the deck very effectively, there isn’t a way out of this that doesn’t make the problem worse. But it doesn’t matter. The Republican Party has been bought and paid for by the Left. I’ve always suspected that the Left dredges up skeletons out of Republican Leadership closets, dangles it in… Read more »

LC Draco
LC Draco

One thing that is interesting, but I know they MUST have thought about, is the massive number of military personnel coming back and not being able to find employment. Ergo, many (I do not know the numbers) become part of that welfare/entitlement sector. A lot of the military is disenfranchised as a voting block. MILITARY ABSENTEE VOTING REQUESTS DOWN AS… Read more »

single stack
single stack

His Viciousness seems peculiarly interested in the condemneds’ colon contents. No need to assume diarrhea. Um, point of order… When people die and their muscles relax they shit themselves. It has nothing to do with diarrhea. When a prisoner is executed one of the steps in his preparation is an enema and the insertion of a buttplug so he won’t… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

One concern I have, is that as shit spirals completely out of control, the ruling junta will clamp down on websites – such as this one – and shut them down as we have seen in Syria, Venezuela, Greece, Egypt, and other totalitarian hell-pits. Does his majesty have a “second death star” in the works – preferably in the remote… Read more »

Mattexian
Mattexian

It looks to me to closely resemble the last days of the Soviet Union, having spent themselves into Everest-sized mountains of debt over a war in Afghanistan (sounds familiar, don’t it?). Also the ongoing internal battles against the evils of running dog capitalists and how the factories can only be saved by either government taking control or injecting a metric… Read more »

readerjp
readerjp

House Speaker John Boehner and the failed political establishment are purging House Committees of fiscal conservatives. These statesmen have been fighting tirelessly for us, and now we must fight for them. Rep. Tim Huelskamp (KS) – Removed from the House Budget Committee (96% FreedomWorks Lifetime Rating). Rep. Justin Amash (MI) – Removed from the House Budget Committee (100% FreedomWorks Lifetime… Read more »

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

LC Xealot says:

Browse Democratic Underground sometime. It’s interesting to see what the Loony Bin is doing and thinking, sometimes.

I can’t do that, it’s like watching Jerry Springer…..I can feel the brain cells dying

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

DJ sez- Like it or not, taxes ARE going to go up for the top 2 percent in this country. They don’t have to go up at all for the bottom 98 percent — there is already a bill that has been passed by the Senate and being sat on in the House that will make the tax cuts for… Read more »

Mark12A
Mark12A

Except, DJ, that the increased taxes on the people making over $250K will fund the federal spendathon for about 8.5 days. It would have reduced Obama’s deficit from $1.3 trillion to a paltry $1.22 trillion. Surely even YOU can see it’s not a revenue problem. Maybe. They need to cut spending drastically. Start with social programs to other countries and… Read more »

Igor, Imperial Booby
Igor, Imperial Booby

I too am worried about my kids, and not myself. I *tried* to teach ’em self-reliance, but not having gone through what I went through as a kid, I can only hope and pray. Since I too am 60, Caveman, I can only hope to be able to protect as much as I am able. My wife and I are… Read more »

LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd
LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd

there is already a bill that has been passed by the Senate and being sat on in the House that will make the tax cuts for all income UNDER $250k permanent. Nice try. As most people understand, a future Congress cannot be constrained against exercising their power to raise taxes, except by Constitutional amendment. An interesting use of the word… Read more »

bruce
bruce

watch for the gun control because you know it,s coming the congressional commies want to disarm us so they won’t break a finger nail while they turn us into serfs.buy guns,gold and land plus reloading equipment.if you know any computers hackers break into the feds computers and get the names and addresses of all federal agents so when they pay… Read more »

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

Can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you are serious (but crappy at grammar), bruce. Look, gold is over-hyped at this point. And it will probably wind up confiscated anyway (see FDR). That is something I can DEFINITELY see Obama doing, or whatever Democrat succeeds him in office in 2016. The argument is easy “let’s take all those private hordes… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

Like it or not, taxes ARE going to go up for the top 2 percent in this country. I like the fucking moving goal-posts there. First it was the 1%. Now it’s the goddamned 2%. First it was “Raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires. Then it was 250k. Now it’s those evil bastards that rake in 200,000.00 a year. That… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

LC Xealot says: DJ… how much taxation is enough? IIRC, he’s said that he believes that 90% should be just about right. I guess if he has a dollar, he won’t mind giving up 90 cents of it. Tax the rich all you want, and give it to the poor. The rich will always get rich again, and the poor… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

In an interview with Bloomberg’s Julianna Goldman, President Barack Obama stated, “I think America is poised to take off.” The main obstacle, in Obama’s mind, however, is political dysfunction. “We’re seeing pretty strong consumer confidence, despite weaknesses in Europe and even in Asia. I think America is poised to take off. And the question is, let’s make sure that we… Read more »

LC Xystus
LC Xystus

single stack: Um, point of order… When people die and their muscles relax they shit themselves. It has nothing to do with diarrhea. Yeah, I knew about that. But properly-processed excrement doesn’t “run,” OK? One account (from San Quentin, I think, though I can’t find it offhand) bears this out. Anyhow Misha obviously enjoys his frequent references. When a prisoner… Read more »

LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd
LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd

So what I’m going to need, what the country needs, what the business community needs, in order to get to where we need to be, is an acknowledgment that folks like me can afford to pay a little bit higher rate. As a (former) small business owner (read: someone who has experience in running a business and not my mouth),… Read more »

LC Gladiator
LC Gladiator

Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse;
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that Obama’s Tax Revenue soon would be there;

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:

It damn if it sure would not make a good number of us feel better about being locked in steerage while the Titanic sinks.

Steerage women had a better survival percentage than First Class men. The elites would do well to remember that – elevated position does not guarantee survival.

LCBren
LCBren

Misha: I did have to look it up, because up until now, i had no idea what a Cloward-Piven was. Thought it was some kind of hybrid cow :em07: :em01: :em05:

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

DJ… how much taxation is enough? How much socialization of the country is the right amount? Forget all tax rates, fees, tariffs and such, and answer this: How much should we be taxed, in total? 50%? More? Indeed. Well put. And that is the question that not one- not a single Republican on the hill ever asks. Not One. 50%?… Read more »

single stack
single stack

Never heard of this–sounds “cruel & unusual” to me! Such results didn’t seem to bother last century’s executioners. Could you source it? Several years ago I watched a documentary about capital punishment. In it, several condemned men whose executions were imminent were interviewed and some of them complained about the degradation of being forced to undergo an enema and the… Read more »

single stack
single stack

As I see it – here is one of the problems – thinking like this at a so called “conservative blog – red state” I detest Red State, in particular Erick Erickson. He seems to be taking over the mantle of the left’s pet “conservative” from David Brooks. BTW, I’m glad the links are back up in the “conservative blog… Read more »

VonZorch Imperial Researcher
VonZorch Imperial Researcher

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says: LC Xealot says: Browse Democratic Underground sometime. It’s interesting to see what the Loony Bin is doing and thinking, sometimes. I can’t do that, it’s like watching Jerry Springer…..I can feel the brain cells dying Yep, I went there once, my head hurt for days afterwards. Fa Cube Itches says: HempRopeAndStreetlight @ #:… Read more »

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

VonZorch Imperial Researcher says: That’s because the men in first class were actually men, not overgrown children. There’s something to that. It used to be that privilege came with an expectation of honor and duty. Of course, not all of the elite in those days adhered to it, but many did. I don’t see Paris Hilton taking on the role… Read more »

watchyerlane
watchyerlane

First off, Sire, thank you. FInally someone is saying what I have been thinking. Thank you. As for you, resident lib DJ, ok you increase taxes on the top 2%. What happens when you realize you are still spending far more than you are taking in (as that IS the current problem) do you now demagogue the top 10%? The… Read more »

single stack
single stack

LCBrendan @ #: 28

Also look up Antonio Gramsci and the “long march through the institutions”.
It isn’t directly related to Cloward-Piven but they mesh together.

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

So we do the Thatcher standard reference. “Socialism is fine until you run out of other people’s money.” Are you familiar at all with the living standard in the USSR? Misha knows. Natasha knows. I don’t know how many other of the Empire are familiar with it. I’m familiar with it because of studies I had in the military so… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

VonZorch Imperial Researcher @ #: That’s because the men in first class were actually men, not overgrown children. In part, yes, but not entirely. On Murdoch’s side of the boat deck, he allowed men to enter the lifeboats if there were empty seats. On Lightoller’s side, men were not allowed to enter at all. It mostly had to do with… Read more »

Fa Cube Itches
Fa Cube Itches

LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician @ #: Are you familiar at all with the living standard in the USSR? Misha knows. Natasha knows. I don’t know how many other of the Empire are familiar with it. I was there on a student exchange type program. Though interesting, the Soviet Union wasn’t exactly a pleasant place to be, and our… Read more »

LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.
LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.

Expropriate the 1%? No exproprioate the 2%. Of course, after they have been pciked clean, there will be a new 2% of wealthiest individuals. Its trimming the tallest daisy. I suspect the opening stages of “Collectivization”, and “Militant Communism”. Full scale collectivization will come later. Eventually some will resist. I recommend you consider the Tambov Insurrection, also here. Film at… Read more »

bruce
bruce

fuck my grammar ass hole as far as guns go i bet i have more guns than any of you plus 10,000 rds of ammo with reloading equipment.i started buying gold at $94.00 per once and i have done way better than the stock market and gold is real money while paper is used to wipe your ass with like… Read more »

HempRopeAndStreetlight
HempRopeAndStreetlight

bruce @ #: I commend you on your preps Bruce, and self sufficiency is a good starting point. But I need to ask – are you part of a like-minded community that is going to help hold into all of that when the shit hits the fan? Survivalism is a team sport. Unless you got a good close group, who… Read more »

LC hilljohnny
LC hilljohnny

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder says: 50%? We’re there – add your total tax liability – add in State / Local – Federal excise tax on gas – utilities – fees for services….and you very quickly reach if not 50% damn close to it. don’t forget 25% of every dollar you spend goes to pay the corperate taxes of the business… Read more »

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

bruce says: fuck my grammar ass hole as far as guns go i bet i have more guns than any of you plus 10,000 rds of ammo with reloading equipment.i started buying gold at $94.00 per once and i have done way better than the stock market and gold is real money while paper is used to wipe your ass… Read more »

Special Ed
Special Ed

LC Xealot says:

But complete sentences would be a good start.

Agreed. :em05:

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder says: So imagine my surprise when I get hit with a 170.00 dollar renewal “fee” … that in full disclosure included an “expedited” processing fee since I needed it to be down in a shorter amount of time than the normal rusty wheels of State Allow for. Without the additional fee – it would STILL have… Read more »

bruce
bruce

i can be an ass hole when i want to be one because at 68 i don’t give a shite any more.my grammar is not going to improve much unless the grammar czar corrects me.what i am trying to say is you have to start thinking poor because that is where we are headed so we should think about what… Read more »

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

Special Ed @ #:

I Lol’d.

Special Ed
Special Ed

Bruce, you sound like a Mountain West ranch. I have to wonder, though, a 14kw generator? Better lay in some more fuel … I wore hand-me-downs from three older brothers (well, four. Two were twins.) I ate bread made from home-ground flour. I make my own jams and jellies from the native berries (better, anyway). You’re not alone, is what… Read more »

LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd
LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd

Have to disagree with bruce on a certain point. My father and his parents immigrated to this country from Germany in 1938 with a steamer trunk and two small crates. Several years later, they bought a ranch in these parts that was so run down that there was a broken pane in my father’s bedroom window. He woke up with… Read more »

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says: What better way to keep the masses where you can control them: make it prohibitively expensive for them to leave the country. How many of us can afford that kind of money? Good point, Excellent in fact – I honestly never considered that part of it, but you’re 100% correct if I had to shell… Read more »

LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent
LC IB CiSSnarl5.7 Imperial Foreign War Correspondent

LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd @ #:

He didn’t get there by “thinking poor.” He got there by thinking.

That phrase simple and direct as it is – gets my vote for quote of the week…. :em01:

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

LC Moriarty, Imperial Goatherd says: They grew, cooked, canned, smoked and dried nearly everything they ate. (I still have Oma’s recipe books.) Virtually nothing went to waste. “Poor” didn’t figure into their thinking. They’d lived through hyperinflation in Germany. As Americans, we have a hard time understanding poverty at that level. Poor meant certain death by starvation. That’s truth. People… Read more »

bruce
bruce

my grand father came here in the 19th century from ireland where they taught europe how to starve to death by the millions.he arrived here with the shirt on his back and irish need not apply signs every where but he could make things grow which saved him from starving.my wife’s grand parents were peasants from italy and neither of… Read more »

bruce
bruce

i do have a 500gal tank for the generator and one for my furnace plus a wood stove.my garden is a raised bed made with pressure treated 2×12,s raised beds grow more quality veggies than just on the ground and is easer on the back.