Fight As If You Mean It, Or Don’t Fight At All

An absolute must-read from the always excellent Walter Russell Mead about the American reaction to the conflict in Gaza right now:

Commentators around the world grasp at straws in seeking to explain what’s going on. Islamophobia and racism, say some. Americans just don’t care about Arab deaths and they are so blinded by their fear of Islam that they can’t see the simple realities of the conflict on the ground. Others allege that a sinister Jewish lobby controls the media and the political system through vast power of Jewish money; the poor ignorant Americans are the helpless pawns of clever Jews. Still others suggest that it is fanatical fundamentalists with their carry on flight bags packed for the Rapture who are behind American blindness to Israel’s crimes.

America is a big country with a lot of things going on, but the real force driving American support for Israeli actions in Gaza isn’t Islamophobia, Jewish conspiracies or foam-flecked religious nuts. It’s something much simpler: many though not all Americans look at war through a distinctive cultural lens. Readers of Special Providence know that I’ve written about four schools of American thinking about world affairs; from the perspective of the most widespread of them, the Jacksonians, what Israel is doing in Gaza makes perfect sense. Not only are many Jacksonians completely untroubled by Israel’s response to the rocket attacks in Gaza, many genuinely don’t understand why the rest of the world is so steamed about Israel—and so angry with the United States.

Read the whole thing, because he absolutely nails it.

His Imperial Majesty is and always have been a “Jacksonian” when it comes to armed conflict. If you decide to enter into it, then you must, absolutely, do everything in your power to finish it as quickly and decisively as possible. Or, as we like to put it, ask yourself this question:

Is conflict necessary?

If yes, then you MUST use all available force, without pity and without restraint, to crush the threat decisively, definitively and as permanently as you can make it. “Holding back” only prolongs the conflict, which makes it worse for everybody, including the enemy who, if the answer was “yes” to the first question, we really don’t give two shits about to begin with, but this is only to say that we’re not out to harm more than we have to. As long as not doing harm does NOT interfere with the only important objective, which is to eliminate the threat. For good. As quickly as possible.

For examples of conflicts where “restraint” benefited no one, see Afghanistan, Iraq, Viet Nam and just about every other conflict fought since the “kinder, gentler” approach to warfare came into being after WWII.

For examples of the opposite, see WWII, particularly Hiroshima and Nagasaki where our actions, though admittedly horrifying, ended up saving more lives by at least one order of magnitude than would have been lost if we’d been worshiping at the altar of “proportionality.”

This rule of “don’t enter a fight if you have no intentions of finishing it” that we cherish and respect encompasses everything, not just war. It’s the same rule that tells us to not draw a gun unless we’ve already determined that we need it and are willing to use it. If we haven’t reached that point, mentally, before we clear leather, then we’re just a fucking irresponsible poser waving a lethal weapon around for no good reason other than to “look tough”, which is a pretty good indicator that we’re too fucking dumb to own one in the first place.

If you are not willing to kill, pay close attention to the fact that we’re not saying “intent on killing”, then you have no fucking business waving that boomstick around.

And so it goes in war. Once you have identified a threat that needs to be neutralized and you “clear leather” by mobilizing, then you’d damn well better be willing to put everything you have available into immediate and unrelenting use if the threat doesn’t go away immediately.

As to “just war”, we don’t generally use the term. Mainly because it is such a subjective term that it is all but meaningless. When eggheads with tenure venture into bloviating about the concept, it is only in order for them to adorn their support of any given conflict that they happen to agree with with the illusory concept of “objectivity.” It is also bullshit. For pretty much any conflict you can come up with, we’re almost willing to bet you we could make an “objective” case for the other side, even if it’s a side that we hate with the fire of a thousand suns. It’s irrelevant.

What is relevant is that you pick a side, and once you’ve done that you’d better be sure that you picked the right one, because once you’ve done so, you’re either committed to seeing that side winning or you should have just stayed at home baking pies.

As to this current conflict between the paleosimian murderers in Gaza and the people of Israel, it isn’t hard for us to pick a side. Hamas started it. They rained hundreds, they HAVE rained thousands of missiles upon Israel, so it is beyond unreasonable to expect Israel to NOT respond. And, with that out of the way, having decided that Israel has a right to defend herself and that Hamas is to blame, the rest is minor stuff. If we care about how Israel chooses to terminate this threat against her, it is ONLY to the extent that we worry, deeply, that she isn’t going to throw the kitchen sink at the ululating barbarians until they beg for mercy, because that would accomplish absolutely nothing other than to kick the can down the road and guarantee more deaths on both sides.

The paleosimians had a choice. They chose poorly. Now they will either surrender unconditionally or die. What happens from here on out, every single death, is on THEIR heads. THEY chose this.

Israel didn’t.

Which is why His Imperial Majesty is utterly indifferent to the avalanche of propaganda about “innocent paleosimians dying” that we are already seeing from the NeoNaziMedia. We’re certainly NOT indifferent to the plight of the pali kids who’re dying, but their deaths are on the heads of the barbarian swine who started the conflict. THEY chose to start it, THEY can end it at any time. Anything that happens in between THEY own.

We would love for them to finally realize this and save countless lives on both sides in doing so, but we’re not terribly optimistic.

But the crypto-Nazi pali sympathizers can take and stuff up their Khyber Passes their allegations that the losses in this conflict is somehow Israel’s fault.

Thatisall.

22 comments

  1. 1
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    The entire idea of warfare is to escalate the festivities until the enemy capitulates – anything less is a waste of humanity, material, and money. “Kinder and Gentler” doesn’t cut it as the enemy is encouraged by the lack of action.

    If nobody else has the balls, hand me the button – I’ll gladly push it – two or three times.

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    Totally off topic, here’s a group of fiddle players I found rather impressive to watch:

    http://youtu.be/1aQZA2uoTeI

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    dasbow growls and barks:

    The Paleoswinian sympathizers give the animals the idea that they can actually win, which emboldens them to escalate their atrocities. Sadly, their supporters don’t realize that they’re not doing the Palis any favors. And since Arabs don’t care about Arab deaths, why the fuck should I?

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    Mark12A growls and barks:

    We studied the concept of “causus belli” for wars during my intermediate and senior staff schools. Frankly, it’s a pretty silly concept. Whether or not a war is just or good or whatever depends on what side you sit on.

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    The festering irony of the whole situation is that NOBODY gives two shits about the Palosimians. Their Arab “supporters” won’t host them in their own countries, or give them land. Only the evil Israelis have tried to peacefully co-exist with these primates … and the thanks they get is constant war from within their own land. The only reason the Arabs support and arm the Paleos is that they make a good proxy and fine cannon fodder.

  5. 5
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    A THIRD Term for Obama???????

    http://pro.stansberryresearch.com/1210THIRDLIA/OPSINB00/

  6. 6
    LC Stargazer growls and barks:

    And half of their supposed civilian casualties, if not more, are simply stage-acted. We’ve all seen the ‘funerals’ where the ‘body’ gets up and runs away with the attendees when a drone flies overhead… along with that same old lady who apparently moves from town to town to buy houses under the path of incoming Israeli retaliation. (She’s also the one who held up an unused cartridge that the Israelis had ‘hit her house with’ and the medi-idiots didn’t even catch on…)

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    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    Setting aside the damage Jackson did to the Republic in a few key areas of domestic policy, imagine a world in which the United States had deliberately and consistently applied this so-called Jacksonian perspective to every threat situation since the end of WWII. Some conflicts we probably would not have entered, having weighed the cost of aggressive and decisive victory as too high a price to pay to achieve an indirect benefit. Others we would have pursued with overwhelming force, resolving them rapidly and, in comparison with recent policy, much less expensively in human, economic, and cultural terms. I’d like to think that such a binary approach to conflict would do much to limit the military adventurism that seems to have become such a large part of our international policy these last several decades. We will yet pay a dear price for our current, ill-defined, politically driven foolishness in the use of our precious military resources, for which we are ridiculed and hated as occupiers and empire builders.

    Having shown the world and our own nation a consistent pattern of behavior in response to conflict-generating situations, we would be safer today. Our military would be stronger, not having been wasted extravagantly in nation-building boondoggles that are rendered irrelevant in a world where all our enemies know the gates of hell will open the next time they attack us here or overseas. Our proud and capable military would know that they can trust our leaders to employ them only when truly needed, and when done so, with stunning power and all possible support for rapidly achieving total victory.

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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    War is Hell. If Hamas wants to start one by lobbing rockets into Israel, they should not be surprised that it isn’t going to be pretty for them. Sure, it sucks that kids sometimes wind up paying the price, but as the article states is the Jacksonian world view… that’s the fault of Hamas. If they want to save their people, stop lobbing rockets into Israel and come to a peaceful agreement instead.

    Of course, pigs will fly, and Hillary Clinton will become a conservative Republican long before THAT day ever comes.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Actually it doesn’t matter if the cause is either just or necessary, just that you are in it – by whatever blunder. If your young son teases a dog until it attacks him, it is your boy who is in the wrong. But that is no reason to abaandon him to face the consequences. You can settle with him later, but your first task is to take his side against the dog. nAnd you need to take action against the dog decisively. If the dog is a chihuahua that may be simple and merely cause for chasing poochie away with a rooled up paper. If it is a pit bull terrier or palestinian, you need decisive and deadly action.

    Once you’re in a fight you have to put up your best effort, even if you lose, or you you provide a de facto invitation to every other street bully to come looking for an easy victory.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. says:

    And you need to take action against the dog decisively. If the dog is a chihuahua that may be simple and merely cause for chasing poochie away with a rooled up paper. If it is a pit bull terrier or palestinian, you need decisive and deadly action.

    I will have to disagree with you on this, Rurik. Dogs do what they do out of instinct. Is it right for a dog to possibly forfeit his life for acting on instinct? A dog that attacks without provocation is one thing, but one that is being teased? The little brat needs to be taught to LEAVE THE DOG ALONE!

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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    Until the Paleoswinians love their children more than they hate the Jews, this will continue. Golda Meir said it thusly:
    “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”

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    Which is why His Imperial Majesty is utterly indifferent to the avalanche of propaganda about “innocent paleosimians dying” that we are already seeing from the NeoNaziMedia. We’re certainly NOT indifferent to the plight of the pali kids who’re dying, but their deaths are on the heads of the barbarian swine who started the conflict. THEY chose to start it, THEY can end it at any time. Anything that happens in between THEY own.

    Exactly. Does the term “Dresden Fire Storm” ring any bells?
    Igor, Imperial Booby says:

    Until the Paleoswinians love their children more than they hate the Jews, this will continue. Golda Meir said it thusly:
    “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”

    I lost count of how many times I have repeated that. :em01:
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  13. 13
    bruce growls and barks:

    there is a video over at geller’s or debbie schluessel’s that shows ragheads teaching 5yr olds to kill jews so when they get killed in a war that their parents started i really can’t work up much sympathy for any of them. sooner or later we will have to kill the ragheads here or they will kill us.

  14. 14
    bruce growls and barks:

    the only way to stop ragheads from shooting rockets into israel is to wipe out gaza.

  15. 15
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Nathan Bedford Forrest had it right: “War means fightin’, and fightin’ means killin’.”

    Or, as others said: “War to the knife, and knife to the hilt.”

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    dasbow @ #:

    The Paleoswinian sympathizers give the animals the idea that they can actually win

    Of course they can win. Israel is pretty much a Western nation. Western nations are pretty tough to defeat on the battlefield, but are very easy to defeat politically. The best way to evalute any opponent’s strength is by the old equation: Population + Resources X Will. Note that Will is the most important element in the equation, since it is the multiplier. The Palis have a decent sized population, but only scant resources; however, they have a lot of will. The Israelis have a lot of resources, but limited will.

    Israel’s resources will give it the distinct edge in any single battle, but over a long drawn-out war, the Palestinian will could prove decisive, so long as they don’t mind taking heavy casualties (and they don’t appear to). Hopefully, the Israelis will find sufficient resolve to finish the game, but that isn’t exactly a given.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    And this is what we have to deal with here, Pro hamass protester attacks a person with a camera. I know that thing, I cannot tell if it’s male or female, don’t understand something real simple. If it is a female, it will be regulated to “second-class” type of life. If it is male, it will be killed.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    This smells, US Sends Warships to Israel For Evacuation Purposes. The Blight Bringer is actually worried about the welfare of American citizens ?? I’m calling Benghazi on this. We already know that dead Americans are “bumps in the road” to this bastard.

  19. 19
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    LC LOBO @ #:

    Or the Israelis may want them out of the way in the event of a ground war. If Americans were KIA in Israel as the result of a ground war the media would go insane blaming the Israelis.

    As for half measures…Bomber Harris had a nihilistic plan with regards to German cities. Bomb the cities to rubble then make the rubble bounce.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID @ #:
    True, but still. He has shown nothing but contempt for America. And didn’t write in his book,

    ” that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    ? Cairo 2009 speech “My mu*lim faith.”, something that no Christian can say. I don’t care to hear whoever is going to read this and start jumping me for calling him a fucking mu*lim.
    I think that by having them there he’s hoping that hamas shoots at one of them, and with the complicit help of the LSDMSM, blame Israel and it’s off to the races.

    And what is up with this ??US Embassy guard wounded.

    An axe-wielding attacker lightly wounded a guard at the US Embassy in Tel Aviv Tuesday morning and was arrested. Guards shot at the attacker, who was not wounded, according to initial reports. The attack was not connected to terror.

    The victim was lightly wounded in his leg, and police are questioning the assailant. It is not known if the attack is connected to the Gaza hostilities.

    The attacker was identified as a 41-year-old Israeli Jew from Bat Yam, a city adjacent to Tel Aviv.

    #1 It is not a “terror” attack.
    #2 The attack quickly ID’ed as an Israeli Jew.

    If the fucktard is looking for more shit like that, to give the order to fire, I bet it will come rapidly.
    And why put civilians on a warship, in a fucking war zone ?? Some of my friends that live there are telling me that if a ground war kicks off, Americans are being told to fly out. They are being told that getting out now is a really good idea. Like I said, this shit smells.

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    LC_Salgak growls and barks:

    Me, I’m a big believer in “negotiating” with my enemies.

    Of course, my initial position in any negotiation, has the enemy on his or her back, my knife at his or her throat, and my knee in their guts.

    All to get their attention, and if “negotiation” goes badly, enables me to resolve the situation quickly and permanently . . .

    Is there any other way to negotiate ??? :em03:

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    HenrikRClausen growls and barks:

    And now an idiotic ceasefire without having crushed the terrorists. With the gentle aid of H. Clinton :(