Fucking Retards

The KosTards are apparently up in arms because the GOP are proposing that workers on strike shouldn’t be able to receive food stamps, calling it “starving the Childurn™” or something.

Let’s get something clear here: It has always, and will always be the policy of His Imperial Majesty to help those who cannot help themselves. Operative word “cannot.”

We think that we, and everybody on this site, have proved that enough times in the past to render any argument on that subject moot and, quite frankly, insulting and ridiculous.

HOWEVER.

Anybody who will not help themselves can go fuck themselves sixteen ways from Sunday as far as we’re concerned.

If you have the ability AND the opportunity to go earn a paycheck, yet choose to not do so for whatever selfish reason you might pick, we don’t give a flying FUCK if you end up sucking worms for your sustenance while living in a cardboard box.

Let us make this even clearer: You do NOT have a “right” to help from anybody. And if you’re in a situation where you CHOOSE not to help yourself, in SPITE of being both willing and able with an opportunity at hand, you don’t even fucking DESERVE to get any help. Why? Because you’re a useless, worthless, egotistical fucking loafer who would do all of us a favor by just killing yourself.

And your family would be better off too. At least it would give them the chance to find somebody who ISN’T an utter piece of selfish, narcissistic shit with no sense of responsibility.

That’ll be enough to make you president, as we’ve all learned by now, but it doesn’t make you a worthwhile use of oxygen.

Thatisall.

35 comments

  1. 1
    M167A1 growls and barks:

    Stray thought under the useless swine catagory: I have no idea why the post made me think of this. Perhaps because there is so litle to be said for the KOS crowd. Anyway I offer something of slightly greater intellegence than the KOS Klowns.

    Michael Moore should play the villan in the next Spide Man movie. He could be the “Bumble Bee,” dress in stripes and try and take over the world while shouting bee puns from his black and yellow battle blimp

    Regards!

  2. 2
    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Why in the hell should the public in any way subsidize their strike? They are refusing to work, a far cry from those I know that are dying to get any job.

  3. 3
    M167A1 growls and barks:

    Response to LC HJ Caveman82952 @:

    Its just another way for the Mafia (oh did I say that?) to get money out of the taxpayers…

    Good god…

  4. 4
    M167A1 growls and barks:

    Response to DJ Allyn, ITW @:
    Fair enough

  5. 5
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    HEy DJ…I would add mandatory drug testing for the recipients. If you cant afford food you sure as hell cant afford to get high. Then again I would add it to welfare also, it is very difficult to find employment that doesn’t require a drug test.

  6. 6
    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    If I remember right, Bill Clinton tried to take donations of used underwear off his taxes. His dutiful lab assistant, Algore, gave a whopping $88 one year to charity according to his taxes.

    But yes, we conservatives are just SO selfish and greedy.

    Liberalism: More than just stupid…it’s offensive!

    -Jim+

  7. 7
    The Lone Haranguer growls and barks:

    Response to DJ Allyn, ITW @:
    That makes far too much sense to ever be actually implemented.

  8. 8
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC TerribleTroy says:

    HEy DJ…I would add mandatory drug testing for the recipients. If you cant afford food you sure as hell cant afford to get high. Then again I would add it to welfare also, it is very difficult to find employment that doesn’t require a drug test.

    I think anyone on unemployment should be given random drug tests as well. But that is an envasion of someone’s rights. :roll:

    Please let this go through before the dumbass teachers in my state have more job actions. They are not permitted to strike so they call them job actions.

  9. 9
    Lc ORWN engine builder for Rottie Racing growls and barks:

    Response to DJ Allyn, ITW 3@:

    OK I think there is a problem here …Why do I suddenly find myself agreeing with DJ? :em99:

    Too many Sam Adams? He is suddenly making sense? Too many Sam Adams? It’sLate? Too many Sam Adams? I don’t know..A little help anyone

  10. 10
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    This of course is making the huge assumption that most people are out gaming the system.

    Im not making any assumptions, just recognizing that with any “group” there are the assholes that try to take advantage.
    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    The reason I suggest this is that one major impediment to getting a job is having a drug problem,

    I’m pretty sure that was my point.

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    and as any alcoholic or drug addict here can tell you, this is a disease, not a choice.

    You may or may not be aware of this, but I checked myself into rehab in 04 for the fullride. I majored in Alcohol with a minor in pharmaceuticals. Now, this doesn’t make me a expert or anything, but I hesitate to call it a disease and prefer illness. Its not like one is walking along minding their own business and they come down with addiction. One usually chooses to work their way up to the addict stage. I think that some drugs are easier to become addicted to, but I don’t believe in instantaneous addiction. I saw a stat once (I don’t remember the source) that indicated that 75% of the population could use any substance recreationaly and not become “addicted.” I think the propensity for addiction is genetic at its root. The cause of the addiction is a mental issue that can easily be corrected in the majority. The compulsion to use will decrease over time. I know there are others that will disagree, as my position undermines the “once a addict always a addict” philosophy. So again, Im by no means a “expert” on the subject. Now that I’ve rambled on…
    I was always of the understanding that food stamps were to supplement a households food procurement, not cover in its entirety. Maybe I should modify my position by saying if you are living in section 8 housing, drawing welfare, and food stamps then you should be willing to submit to a drug test. I think there should be a initial test and then random. The costs of the testing would easily be less than not identifying the foundation for the individuals condition and allowing the subjects to draw on community resources in perpetuity.

    All this is easy for me say as I sit here eating Vicoden.

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    Again, it wouldn’t be a free ride — I would still require repayment of value for any services rendered

    Sure, I agree, payment could be made in the form of No tax refund for the subjects.

  11. 11
    LC BOATS growls and barks:

    Dam DJ –just when I think Ive got you pegged you up and say something that makes sense.When retiring after 33 years because of a disability I look back at a job I absolutely hated but never missed more than ten days in that time. To me it was simple –if a guy could work but did not he was just a bum. It gave us food on the table, a roof over our heads and raised our four kids. I’m grateful to our maker for that .

  12. 12
    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    If you belong to a union, and you choose to go on strike, then look to the union to support you.

    Didn’t Unions originally have “Strike Funds” which were to be drawn upon when the Man was putting down the people?

    I guess the big offices and salaries that are required to run a Union today just won’t allow for something like that today. Besides, they can get the government to pick up that expense.

    Laid off or fired = Unemployment

    Strike = refuse to work = no unemployment.

  13. 13

    Food stamps? How ’bout some food stamps for folks who’s job of 12 years ended just after giving the wrong answer to the words “Look, I might be able to save your job if you promise to join my union.”
    *SPIT*

  14. 14

    No,, I don’t want the damn stamps,,but I know I ain’t the only one that happens to and it happens all day everyday somewhere.
    Sympathy for unions ain’t possible for me anymore, it’s quite personal now for me.

  15. 15
    americanexpat growls and barks:

    #14 SoCal:

    Didn’t Unions originally have “Strike Funds” which were to be drawn upon when the Man was putting down the people?

    Yes. I remember my father drawing on the UAW’s back in the ’60s on those occasions when they chose Ford as the strike target. It wasn’t anywhere near as much as he made working on the line, but we didn’t have a lot of hefty expenses back then either, so we got by.

  16. 16
    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Good reading,Rottties. It would eat me alive inside not being able to work, even the most mundane simple tasks are worthy of their labor. An honest buck, made by your own two hands. You do what you can. It may be little but all helps. I continue to work as best I can, circumstances dragging me all over the map at a moments notice. I consider it a prize to nail down a thirty hour week now…most people have less. But when I look at the help that has been tendered in our direction,I flat out owe it to people to work when I can. I had food stamps offered to me once years ago when I was in college waiting for a VA check to finally show up. I used them for two months, then sent the other ten months back. I hated using those things, I rather grow vegetables in my back yard. The idea of expecting others to support me becuase I refuse to work is something I just can’t get my head around…..now back to the damn hospital…..sheesh.

  17. 17
    LC thecabal growls and barks:

    Seriously, who put the brown acid in the water? Second time in a week that I agree with DJ! :em41:

  18. 18
    M167A1 growls and barks:

    Response to LC thecabal @:
    Even a blind nut finds a squirrel once on a while.

    What?…wait…..
    :em93:

  19. 19
    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    If the union’s cause is just and supported by the community, the people of the community can help the strikers. That and the union’s own strike fund or whatever. Charity is nowhere enumerated as a power or duty of the federal gummint in the Constitution. Said it a million times–how dare the feds claim to know better than I do whether I need 30% of my paycheck for my family or whether it should get doled out to people who may or may not need it more.

    BTW, I think it was purple barrels, not that brown shite–the larger question–who’s trippin’? DeeJ or the rest of us? Nevermind, just enjoy the colors.

  20. 20

    Ohgeeze,, ohcrap,,, my roach clip crawled away,,

  21. 21
    Mandrake growls and barks:

    HEy DJ…I would add mandatory drug testing for the recipients. If you cant afford food you sure as hell cant afford to get high. Then again I would add it to welfare also, it is very difficult to find employment that doesn’t require a drug test.

    I agree … if you include cigarettes … and alcohol … and fast food … and cable television, etc. Anything that is hedonistic, narcissistic or generally self-serving should be proscribed if you are on any kind of public assistance. Once you receive ANY help from tax-payers, you should give up all rights to make any personal decisions that give you pleasure but don’t contribute to finding a job or taking care of BASIC needs. No more.

    If you have a cell phone plan that includes a data package, that should be stripped from you, too. I work in a building that shares space with the the local welfare office, and it makes me SICK to see these teenage mothers outside smoking and texting away on their smartphones. My wife and I work our asses off, and we’ve promised each other we won’t graduate to smartphones until we pay off our credit cards. My taxes are essentially supplementing other people’s bad habits.

    I say once you go on food stamps or WIC, or whatever, you should have to sign a contract that allows the government to come into your home whenever they want, just the way they do with people on probation. If they see you spending money on ANYTHING that isn’t directly related to basic needs, like food, shelter, or getting a job, you should be cut off. And when I mean food, I’m talking BASICS – no potato chips, or beer, or junk food. In fact, you should be mandated to take a class in simple, healthy cooking – rice, beans, greens, a little meat, and that’s it. Anything else is unnecessary and essentially means you are spending MY money on satisfying YOUR palate.

    If you don’t like the hard rules, don’t sign the contract and don’t live off my hard-earned tax money.

  22. 22
    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. says:

    Laid off or fired = Unemployment

    Nope, if you get fired it’s because of some, usually deliberate, misbehavior on your part.

  23. 23
    LC Proud Infidel growls and barks:

    Response to Mandrake @:
    Hell, just look at the “Donks” you see parked at Section 8 and Public Housing complexes, $500 klunkers with anywhere from $500 to @$3000 worth of CRAP on them to boot! I’m betting that you also see plenty of the “clients” with nice new $150 NIKE Air Jordans and new clothes with their team logos as well, I see losers like that in the grocery store all the time!!

  24. 24
    Mandrake growls and barks:

    Hell, just look at the “Donks” you see parked at Section 8 and Public Housing complexes, $500 klunkers with anywhere from $500 to @$3000 worth of CRAP on them to boot! I’m betting that you also see plenty of the “clients” with nice new $150 NIKE Air Jordans and new clothes with their team logos as well, I see losers like that in the grocery store all the time!!

    Like I said, they are wearing MY shoes and all the crap on their p.o.s. Chevy Cavaliers is MY crap. Am I too off base in thinking that once you are on the public dole, that there should be some RULES about what you can spend MY money on?

    And I don’t wanna hear about dem people’s “sibil rights.” If it’s a contract with the rest of of us, the tax-payers, then we should have the right to make sure you aren’t spending OUR money on crap. Like I said, no cable, no cigarettes, no booze, no junk food, no candy, and no $150 Nikes (good catch, Infidel!)! We’ll call it the Social Contract PLUS. If they don’t wanna abide by the rules of the contract, then don’t sign it.

    And I hate to say it, ’cause it may push some buttons of some of my Catholic friends in here, but I think there should be mandatory birth control, like Norplant. Anchor babies aren’t just for illegal aliens. Plenty of Americans use ‘em to “anchor” them into the welfare system for life. I see ‘em ALL the time … one dirty kid on the hip, one in a BRAND NEW stroller, while momma sucks on a cigarette talkin’ to baby daddy number three on her smartphone.

  25. 25
    americanexpat growls and barks:

    #24 VonZorch:

    Nope, if you get fired it’s because of some, usually deliberate, misbehavior on your part.

    Agreed. If your job disappears through corporate restructuring or changing business conditions, then that’s not your fault and you should be able to claim unemployment. But if you’re fired for cause, then that is most likely your fault and you should have no claim on the public’s (i.e., our) tax dollars.

  26. 26
    LC Proud Infidel growls and barks:

    Response to Mandrake @:
    I totally agree. After my first ETS, I was a HAZMAT contractor for a few years. I remember getting stuck on a jobsite with a welfare quota joker who bragged about having 5 kids from 3 or 4 women by age 25. Another story I rwmember hearing from one of my mom’s friends who transferred from a rural to a mostly black elementary school. One day, each of the kids was to say wht they wanted to do when they grew up, and one little black girl said ” I wanna draw when I get 18.”. When she was asked what kind of drawing, she said,, ” DRAW WELFARE, YOU DUMMY!”. That was in the 70s, so she’s probably added to our welfare burden since.

  27. 27
    Mandrake growls and barks:

    I remember getting stuck on a jobsite with a welfare quota joker who bragged about having 5 kids from 3 or 4 women by age 25.

    Again, don’t wanna upset any of my good Catholic friends, but can you really argue against Norplant as a condition for being on welfare? And ain’t it the shit – these people can breed like rabbits, but my sister and brother-in-law have been trying to get pregnant for THREE years! They finally shelled out 10 grand to get the fertility treatments and do in vitro. We’ll see how it goes.

    They implanted three and have another seven as back-up. It’s too early to tell, but we are keeping our fingers crossed. I don’t know if three will make that much a difference at balancing the scales in this country. We are practically overrun as it is.

    I AM a little freaked out about the seven that they have “frozen.” I asked my sis what they were going to do with the others if this round works and she gets pregnant, but she didn’t seem to understand what I was talking about. She’s a good woman, but doesn’t understand science very well. I didn’t have the heart to tell her what these clinics do with the “extras.”

    How am I supposed to tell her, a Christian, that these are her babies too?

    Sorry. Wrong forum. Some things are better left not discussed, I guess.

  28. 28
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Plenty of Americans use ‘em to “anchor” them into the welfare system for life

    After “welfare reform” in the 90′s, they’d go on shows like Jerry Springer and Maury Povich and play the “Who-da Baby-Daddy” sweepstakes and subject every male that mounted them to a paternity test.

    Some of these women have dragged in 10+ guys and all tested “You are NOT da baby-daddy”.

    What’s the “window of impregnation”, one or two weeks?

    It’s like these women have hung a sign around their necks saying “prostitute” or “sperm bank”.

    I’m sure there’s going to be a few folks who’ll think and say, “Wow! E-Man sure is being a sexist pig-bastard this morning!” so I’m going to clarify.

    I’m all for a woman’s right to sleep with whoever they want, whenever they want, with however many guys (or girls) they want.

    Just be accountable for your actions.

    Also, if you’re a guy and you father a child, don’t play games, step up to the plate and be accountable for your actions as well.

    I’ll end this comment on a lighter note with this classic Jerry Springer clip! (It’s got unbleeped cussin’! It’s got fightin’ and a stripper!) :em99:

  29. 29
    Cricket growls and barks:

    DJ, that is good…but how many people do you know would actually do that? And how would you implement something like that? Through garnishment? I have some other thoughts, but know this: We never begrudged paying the unemployment taxes, or the other stuff to help people. What has me up in arms are the abuses in the system that enable behavior.

  30. 30
    LC Spare Parts growls and barks:

    My Liege
    Parasites yada-yada
    Watch the video where Liblord Lautenberg said we don’t deserve any Freedom
    Pet princess for me.

  31. 31
    LC Proud Infidel growls and barks:

    Here’s another two cent’s worth, if it’s a gov.’t employee union striking, not only are they NOT entitled to JACK SHIT while striking, they oughtta be kept working until their work backlogs are taken care of afterward. Just plain time and a half after 40 like us everyday stiffs, etc..
    All this shit that the Government emloyee unions and their lackeys dish out, reminds me of the one building I always see immaculately painted, roofed, and landscaped on every military installation I go to. It’s the AFGE meeting hall, Yes, the Association of Federal Gonernment Employees, an AFL/CIO tentacle. Their meeting halls are built, paid for, and maintained with OUR tax dollars!

  32. 32
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Did y’all see this? In London, their counterparts (socialist douchebags, Labourites, drones, and moochers) rioted all over the city, smashing windows at the Ritz, taking over Fortnum & Mason’s, vandalizing banks, and throwing ammonia-filled missiles at police.

    The police, as is their way in Old Blighty, weren’t allowed to do much in response. NO tear gas, alas. Don’t think they arrested any of these wankers, either. Video here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1370053/The-battle-Trafalgar-Square-Police-struggle-control-rioters-500-000-strong-London-march-cuts-ends-violence.html

  33. 33
    Teufelhunden_JD growls and barks:

    Response to Tallulah @:

    That’s a damn shame. I remember when a Bobby with a club not only was allowed but was expected to beat some sense into any hoodlum who dared riot in London.

  34. 34
    Cricket growls and barks:

    Bobbies aren’t allowed to carry guns, either. Only their SWAT teams are. Notice that all of the rioters had their faces covered, and their Labour rep dared to compare this entitlement nonsense to the civil rights movement, which, IIRC, was semi-peaceful. He should have compared it to the Revolution, but since that was also about us paying taxes, and being independent, it would have sent the wrong message. :em93:

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    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    Couldn’t express it any better myself Misha. They walk out on perfectly good employment and they should reap the rewards of such a retarded choice. As for the kids, let them put the tots in foster care for all that matters. I don’t believe that the kids should suffer, but the parents shouldn’t be given anything that they could use to feed themselves. Maybe their church will show them pity, though it isn’t warranted. Pity is for those that can’t help themselves.