The Second American Revolution Has Just Begun


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    Pockmark growls and barks:

    ” rel=”nofollow”>Nero Wolfe has really let himself go.

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    So, when/where is our Lexington? When/where is our Ft Sumter? :em08: I hate this fraud, and the fraudulence that reempowered it.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Old “Tom Paine” seems to be losing his effectiveness. He urges us to “make” Congress do this or that. If that’s even possible, it might tale a while! Then he says “Bring back universal service.” Huh? You can’t bring back what never was. As for abolishing the Electoral College, some at least consider that a Leftist goal. Paine appears at odds with his fellow Founders, who instituted the EC.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Bookmark this page – the list is going to get miles longer

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    Commodore Mick60 growls and barks:

    It’s looking more and more like the red state of South Carolina will have to show the way to secession once again unless, of course, our esteemed Brethren in the Lone Star state beat us to it this time. Notable residents of Pendleton, SC:

    Samuel Augustus Maverick, firebrand Texas rancher and politician from whom the word “maverick” originated, was born in Pendleton.

    Thomas Jefferson Rusk, early political and military leader of the Republic of Texas, serving as its first Secretary of War as well as a general at the Battle of San Jacinto.

    Barnard Elliott Bee, Jr., born in Charleston, SC, 1824. He graduated West Point 1845, and as a Brigadier General, commanded the 3rd Brigade, Army of the Shenandoah, July 21, 1861, at Manassas, Va. He gave Gen. Thomas Jonathan Jackson the name “Stonewall.” Mortally wounded, Bee died July 22, 1861, and was buried in the family plot in St. Paul’s churchyard, Pendleton.

    a popular bumper sticker in the Saluda area read, “Texas Starts Here.” Saluda County was, after all, birthplace and childhood home of two of the Alamo’s greatest heroes, William Barret Travis and James Butler Bonham.

    Thus, South Carolina and Texas have intertwined history and should lead the next effort against tyranny.

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    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    LC Xystus @ #3:

    Agree. The idea of the Electoral College was to support the distinction between a republic and a democracy, and underscore the importance of local (i.e., state) rule. It only looks like an issue now because we have let the federal government become so huge. Getting rid of it would be a step backwards. We need to be working hard to restore state’s rights as one key to restoring the republic.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    LC SecondMouse @ #6:

    But all of that is academic theory and irrelevant in a system which has legitimized rule by executive decree. and government by a bunch of czars, unaccountable save to the autocrat who appointed them without sanction. Repeatedly such dramatically treasonous deeds were accepted with a wink and a nod, and now affirmed and legitimized by reelecting the traitor who did it.

    And we still do not relly know who, what or whence he be! :em08:

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Lincoln said “A house divided cannot stand”. Now it’s house united by force cannot stand. Either we succeed and go our own way or we hunker down, gather tribe and wait for the house to collapse (and it will) but working with or cooperating with the present system without the intent of undermining or sabotaging it is treason.

    Monica Crowley gets it:

    It may very well be that it’s going to take a full-blown crisis to wake us from our torpor. We may have to be broken before we can begin to put ourselves back together again. After all, the slight majority who voted for Obama and the status quo also rejected the responsible plans of Romney and Paul Ryan to deal with the imminent crises NOW, BEFORE they blow up and consume us. But the majority has chosen to close its eyes and float along for now. But at some point, the laws of economics WILL kick in and the reckoning WILL come. So we may have to experience a Western European-style crisis—complete with catastrophic economic collapse and social upheaval—before we can start to fix it.

    It’s an ugly reality, but it may very well be the case.

    What can you do until either above happens?

    Get rid of your cable box. I did. I wasn’t watching it (just listened to FOX News) anyway and shelling out 64 bucks a month to Comcast was a waste but I did keep the internet service. If you got kids get Hulu or Netflix or rent/buy from Apple. That way you can monitor what they’re watching.

    Keep your money out of the bank. Have an account only for DD but get it all out as soon as it hits. Cash is and will always be king.

    Barter. Find a doctor who will see you under the table for cash or services. This is going to be a big one now. Docs and dentists will be willing to see you for pennies on the dollar if they don’t have to do paperwork plus if you have a skill that they need even better (ever see a surgeon rebuild car engines). Same with other services like plumbing, carpenter etc even if it’s just mowing their yard.

    Learn a service skill. I learned welding in HS and the USMC years ago but never followed up with the certifications. Gonna get that done now.

    Move to the country and work in the city only if you have to. Your house value is going to drop even more (estimates range from 15 to 30 percent more). Come Hell or high water I’m going back to South Dakota even if I have to chuck what I have and start all over again, did it before I can do it again. There are no jobs in NoVA nor will there be, unless you want to be part of the machine. That includes making amends with family. This is going to be hard but I don’t have a choice. Forget the past and concentrate on the future.

    Beans, Bullets and Band Aids…buy, buy and buy some more especially guns because they’re coming for them. You can always trade up. One big thing my grandparents did was canning and freezing. Every fall my grandfather would take in a cow, couple of pigs and maybe a couple of lambs for slaughter while my grandmother butchered chickens. Then they froze the meat (in two big chest freezers) and it would last them all winter. In addition they canned and froze veggies from the garden and they ground their own flour and baked their own bread. Is it a pain in the ass? Yeah it is but is going to be a valuable skill to have when food prices skyrocket. Get a wood-stove and start cutting wood. When oil, gas and electric prices go through the roof you’ll be happy you did.

    When the the collapse comes cops and NG soldiers aren’t going to be concerned or even care that you have guns or ain’t toeing the party line. They’re going to be protecting their own. This is where tribe i.e. family and friends comes in. And don’t worry about the Chinese landing in San Francisco (even tho that would be a good thing), they won’t. As Yamamoto has been repeatedly misquoted as saying “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” the essential fact is true.

    I give the system two, maybe three years before it all collapses. The talking stupid fucks are talking about a bargain to stave off what happens in January. It ain’t happening, bet on it. Obongo wants to cut the military and tax the shit out of everyone who produces so January 2 he gets it. But it won’t be enough so the NSDWP will demand even more before the end of 2013. COUNT ON IT. Just take a look at Greece and you’ll see our future.

    PS. Start pulling every bit of information you can on prepping, tactics, survival, gardening, canning, bush-craft, Foxfire etc from the internet and save it NOW because eventually the NSDWP is going to get around to cutting it off…along with talk radio and FOX News.

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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    I truly believe the time to discuss peaceful secession has really come. In many ways, it would be possible to even convince the Left to go along with it. They would be rid of the pesky Conservatives and their Evil Capitalist tendencies, they could be free of big scary guns and live in a nice cradle-to-grave socialist utopia. They could have that dream of theirs today, rather than some number of generations in the future.

    Meanwhile, we could watch the whole thing collapse from our island of prosperity.

    The big problem with it is, despite the red state/blue state divide… the REAL divide is more Urban/Suburban/Rural. Where Urban centers are strongly Leftist, Suburban centers are divided, and Rural centers are Right-wing. It presents a problem for any serious talk of a split in the country.

    That said, I think the time has come to SERIOUSLY talk about this in the public light.

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID @ #:

    Though it saddens me to say it, I think your solution is the only recourse we really have now – short of initiating a full-blown combative revolution.

    Far, far, far too many people cannot bring themselves to believe that the occupant of the Oval Office is, himself, a terrorist – one who intends to destroy this country from the inside. Far too many people still believe that our system still works, and that we’ll just have to wait a few more years to try again.

    The sheep have given the sheepdogs the middle finger, and welcomed the wolf in sheep’s clothing into the fold. It’s now just a matter of when the wolf chooses to strike, and how many he takes with him.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    LC Xealot @ #:
    It’s past time to talk about it. Just don’t expect it to be peaceful, DC can’t afford to let that happen. It would break their power.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    And I have trouble with the idea of “two years of national militry service or community involvement
    Universal male military service may be good, but community fucking involvement?!!! :em08:
    What sort of fuck brain thought of that fucking goat rope!! Remember the current Ahalfrican was a community organizer, the COOTUS.
    Mili-fucking-tary service embodies the following:
    1. The actual, or credible risk, of giveing life for the country.
    2. Discipline and learning to temporarily subordinate self to lawful orders.
    3. Self control and overcoming feaar and privation.
    4. Truly learning to get along with all strata of your fellow citizens, some of whom will be clearly more talented in various ways than yourself, and other clearly barely able to breathe without guidance – but all your fellow citizens, striving alongside.
    5. You learn what it means to live dependent on an large, and impersonal organization, a temporary exposure to practical socialism.

    Compare the foregoing with community involvement., aka picking up trask along your adoptive highway, thoughtfully deposited by for your convenience by illegal aliens – generally done on a warm and sunny day. Or slaving in a soup kitchenb for druggies, but only a couple hours at a time. Or refereeing midnight basketball for ghetto delinquents.
    Again, com-mu-ni-ty fucking service does not involve leaving home and family for two years. You eat the same food you did at home, because that’s where you still are. Does anyone develop a special loyalty to his stretch of adoptive county road? Ever declare “This is my my mop. there are many others like it, but ….” Has anyone ever given his life for his soup kitchen? What is the penalty for the goldbrick who fucks off on a community job, or deserts?

    And doesn’t such mandatory volunteerism also debase and insult those who did genuine community volunteerism? And elevate the penal servitude of those picking up trash by court order because of a DUI conviction.

    It is a form of corvee, the labor requirement that used to be imposed on serfs. But under our new Halfrican Autocrat, we’re all serfs now.

    I had a voluntary Volunteer Service Certificate for 1000 hours, and was started on the next level, before I ever enlisted. But never again. Me never do service no mo. My involvement with Patriot Guard Riders is not service, and if it is ever declared a form of community cervice, I will quit.
    FUCK community :em07:

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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID @ #8:

    Sir Light, you and I are on the same wavelength. Having been trained at an early age by my Sainted Mother in “the basics”, I’m a lucky goon. Having been trained as an Engineer, I have more high-tech skills/training/experience at my disposal. Having taken courses in basic and advanced First AId and other necessities, I can do most anything that doesn’t involve surgery.
    I happen to be fortunate that I have a good, stable job (NOT a Gubmint one!) but we are pretty poor right now because I am trying to support my wife in her new business venture. I can’t complain, though. I’m in the Suburbs of a medium/small-sized city that has a lot of good bedrock patriots even though I live The Peepul’s Republik of Washington. I can head for the hills if our local AFB gets nuked, I’m far enough away and I have a means to bolt if necessary. All I lack is the basic loadout for .303 and .357 ammo. Got everything else.

    “Be Prepared” :em01:

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    HempRopeAndStreetlight growls and barks:

    Glad to know I’m in good company. Just tell me when and where to report for duty. I will bleed, kill, fight, and die for the memory of what this nation was.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Well said, Sir Light! I’m with you! The process well underway and accelerating. I bought another .45, to replace my wife’s, the gun we gave to her brother. A vet, but out of work,(sounds familiar), he wanted one so…
    No doubt I will be back at Gunrunners soon….but a rifle, just can’t decide which…….yet.

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    Weyland growls and barks:

    Thomas Paine says: “Bring back universal service, two years of national military service or community involvement” while standing in front of THAT document? WHAT. THE. FUCK?
    However you spell it, involuntary servitude is slavery. Even for a good cause, even in a superb organization like the U.S. military.

    Did the real Thomas Paine support universal service back in his day?

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    Pockmark growls and barks:

    Weyland @ #:

    Also, it’s unlikely that the candle would have been red. They used whale spermaceti to manufacture candles back then, and I don’t believe you had the option to color it.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.:

    And doesn’t such mandatory volunteerism also debase and insult those who did genuine community volunteerism? And elevate the penal servitude of those picking up trash by court order because of a DUI conviction.

    It is a form of corvee, the labor requirement that used to be imposed on serfs. But under our new Halfrican Autocrat, we’re all serfs now.

    I suspect serfs weren’t supposed to bear arms. Too bad for the “aristocracy.”

    IIRC candles were usually made from beeswax & tallow, though the W’pedia says spermaceti made a good standard candle. The 19th century brought the big whaling boom for lamp oil (hence the nonfunctional metal fixtures still ringing the US House & Senate chambers).

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Xealot @ #:

    I truly believe the time to discuss peaceful secession has really come.

    Secession will necessarily involve genocide – either by mass murder or mass forced resettlement. Take a single state example – even some place like Texas The urban centers are heavily statist. Consider also racial political divisions – 95% of blacks are primarily statists, 70% of hispanics, nearly all Amerinds. How about religion? 70% of Jews are statists, lots of Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc. are too. Consider by age: lots of the elderly love their free money and medical care; the young favor socialism over capitalism. What about homosexuals? On balance, they’re hard left, too. Sure, some of each group will leave if a seccessionist movement appeared to be on the verge of success, but many would not. They have established homes. They won’t all leave. That means you’ll have to either kill them or deport them. Unless you’re quick and ruthless, some may fight back – and they’ll almost certainly get outside help. Plus, genocide is an excellent ground for foreign intervention against you.

    Consider also that they might also try to pull a West Virginia/Serbians-in-Croatia-and/or-Bosnia and secede from your seccession, and they’ll be forced into the same kill ’em or deport ’em choice with the non-statists in their midst.

    Balkanization is probably the endgame, but it won’t be a pleasant thing.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC HJ Caveman82952 @ #:

    No doubt I will be back at Gunrunners soon….but a rifle, just can’t decide which…….yet.

    Anyone have any experience with Hi Point Carbines? I like the idea of a 9mm/.40/.45ACP carbine, and the online reviews I’ve seen have been largely positive, but the damned things look like hell and I’m not sure of the quality. Still, they seem like they’d be useful – especially in an urban setting in the face of rioting/looting.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:

    Got one in 9. You pull the trigger it goes bang. Yep it is ugly and cheap, but then I don’t mind it bouncing around the cab of the truck.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:

    Don’t get esoteric or think into it too much. A good, decent AR or AK will suffice. Remember that a rifle without ammo is a very expensive club. 5.56 and 7.62 are the most common calibers so ammo will plentiful. I love the hell out of .300 WinMag s but it’s uncommon caliber so getting ammo will expensive. Stick to the six common calibers .22LR, 9mm, .45, 5.56mm (.223), 7.62mm (.308), and 12 gauge. Anything else is a waste of resources.

    Also big arsenals are nice but a waste IMHO. You need .22 plinker for small game, a handgun for personal defense, a big, bad, evil assault rifle for primary defense and a shotgun with interchangeable barrels per person.

    And just to irritate Our Beloved Emperor, FN-FALs are wonderful and scare the shit out of anybody on the wrong end of one. Just ask the IRA or the Argentinians.

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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Secession will necessarily involve genocide – either by mass murder or mass forced resettlement…
    …Balkanization is probably the endgame, but it won’t be a pleasant thing.

    Unfortunately, we don’t have a lot of choices in this matter. It’s time to face the truth… Leftism is winning. It’s been winning for a long time. Our public schools and universities turn out Leftists in droves. Demographic trends favor Leftists. And even when the battle is closely fought, they know how to play dirty better than we do.

    At this rate, we’ll lose the country entirely, and a few generations from now, we’ll be gone as an ideology. There’s no where else in the world for us to go. Leftists always talk about fleeing to some other country when they lose… they have that luxury, the world is filled with socialism. Our country is the last bastion of even lip-service to capitalism and freedom. Secession or some kind of split in the government is the opportunity to reverse the trend and start over.

    I’d really hope for a peaceful way of doing this. You may be right in that a violent transition would be inevitable, I’d like to hope not, though. There must be some way of doing it without starting a war.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Xealot, despair not, my friend. For all, and I do mean all totalitarian, dictatorial regimes carry within them the seeds of their own self-destruction. Liberalism leads to its own destruction due to its own excesses. There is no balance. Catering to the lowest common denominator of human character may be fine for equations, it doesn’t work so welll with people. Not over the long haul.
    Those seeds……….All we have to do is water ’em, Bro…..
    In the meantime, my hobby is prepping….
    I seek no conflict, yet……
    For with energy, money cannot come from nothing…this country is headed for a massive economic decline. And as the sheep gather, and the hay is gone……..they will truly learn the meaning and cost of that denominator, they will watch their own children suffer due to their own short-sight greed.
    You should hear the people here in my small town…bambi supporters are absolutely silent, no doubt more than a few ashamed.
    Our children and grandchildren will remember us, and what we stood for……and possibly died for…..
    My soul is my own, God has my pink slip…….
    As has been said…As long as the chests of free men breathe air…

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    It may be/sound bitter and vindictive….BUT I hope the people who got him back in office are the first to get laid off and I HOPE they really enjoy all their CHANGE as they move FORWARD to the Land of Entitlements….

    The problem is, the more that get on Entitlements of any kind (welfare, food stamps, extended unemployment, etc.) will make it much harder to get our country back. What we saw in this election is a take over of our country by lazy freeloaders who put nothing into the country but want to drain everything out. People who are more interested in a free ride than their own freedom. They think they are getting revenge on the hard working, successful person by forcing them to pay for the lazy unaccomplished ones. That is Socialism. What they fail to see is once you run out of people who pay their way (The Tax Payer), Communism is right behind. Then, all their freebies, come to a stretching halt.

    I feel sorry for Libs since they are so blind that they cannot see that Obama is a Socialist ,Marxist and wants to tear this country apart. He has by=passed Congress over 150 times, usurped the Constitution so many times I can’t remember. He has constantly lied to the American people on scandles such as Fast and Furious, his foreign policies favor the muslims and terrorists, and he is not securing our southern borders as to secure our national security. if your the type of person that enjoys Socialism, and Marxism do us true Americans a huge favor MOVE TO RUSSIA, CHINA, SYRIA, IRAN. I think you would be more comfortable there. Either that or expect that someday you will have a bullet put between your eyes!!!!!!

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Sounds like poetic justice to me, Gladiator…..I will let them starve in the fucking streets. I’m done! Like minded souls welcome to my stuff, I’d grill like minded friends, any Rottie a steak on me. anybody else gets killed. I just finished installing a solar rechargable motion detector light in my back yard. It works, I tested and am charging the battery now, nice southern exposure from the roof. My bedroom window looks over my back yard, so………….

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID @ #:

    A good, decent AR or AK will suffice….FN-FALs are wonderful and scare the shit out of anybody on the wrong end of one

    Yeah, I’d be happy with any of them, but I live in Southern California. I’m restricted to 10rd mags. Further, given the likely use any weapon would see in a combat type setting here, my biggest worry is over-penetration. Dropping a rioter/looter is one thing. Putting a stray round through a stucco wall and hitting a neighbor is something else.

    The 9mm or .45 carbine would primarily be a trunk gun – just in case there’s ever a repeat of the Rodney King riots or a major quake. A $1200 AR would be somewhat wasted in that role, but I’m open to all options.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:
    Then you’re looking at the right beast with that High Point. I put a locking steel box behind the seats on the back wall of the cab, 50 rounds my med kit and some spare parts, tools and extra fuel …….Figure it will get me and mine out of any bad spot and to Castle Wilson.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    I will tell you Cube, I’ve had zero problems with it, goes bang every time and has decent combat accuracy. Plus it’s cheap, not something you can brag about owning but if I would ever need it I’ll love it like no other in my collection.