Strange Data Point

You know, His Imperial Majesty’s initial reaction was pretty much in line with the “the nation has changed, it’s now a vast conglomerate of whiny pussies holding out for freebies and that’s why Romney lost” approach right up until he came across this particular data point that, quite frankly, has us scratching our head.

So SCOAMF got 10 million fewer votes than in 2008. We get that. It’s kinda hard to see how people could be more enthusiastic about voting for the leftist swine after 4 years of his disastrous misadministration, rising unemployment, rising inflation, foreign policy clusterfucks etc. but, please, then explain to us how, exactly, Romney magically ended up with 3 million votes less than the doddering, mumbling, incompetent fuck that was McVain?

We don’t know how well y’all remember 2008, but we distinctly remember that the enthusiasm for McVain was a great deal less than for Romney this year. As a matter of fact, we’re hard pushed to remember any enthusiasm at all that wasn’t directly tied to Sarah Palin, and we’re not talking about our own enthusiasm either.

Yet that somehow translates into 3 million less votes, just enough to drag SCOAMF across the finish line after he lost 10 freaking million votes?

We’re going to need quite a bit of time to grok that one.

Meanwhile, discuss among yourselves.


UPDATE: We’re not the only one thinking something is off here. Great minds etc.


  1. 1
    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology growls and barks:

    It’s almost like a significant number of votes for Romney somehow got “fundamentally transformed” into votes for Oclusterfuck! That would explain the “drop” in Romney’s vote totals, as well as coincide with Der Fux0r’s observed decline.

    But… we all know THAT could never happen! :em04:

  2. 2
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    … and not a thing further will will said or done – it’s almost like both sides expected the outcome.

    Imagine that.

  3. 3
    LuckyLeo growls and barks:

    UPDATE: We’re not the only one thinking something is off here. Great minds etc.

    Thank you, sire!

    Something smells rotten here and it smells in America (and not in your birth home) :em05:

    Seriously, I’ll say it again: Americans do not support failure! That is not how we roll.

    Now there may be some few misguided souls that do, but they are in minority. And they are the true American minority!

    And I do not believe that they outnumber us. They do not come even close and probably never will.

    We need to look deeper. The future of our republic depends on us to really look at this and not start shooting at each other because of misplaced blame here.

    Because I believe that this is something really sinister that is going on here!

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Agreed, LuckyLeo.

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    Woo-hoo … WTF is anyone going to do about it? Not a damn thing, that’s what.

    Both sides of the DC frat house are going to back to fingering themselves while the HNIC goes about doing whatever the fuck he wants to destroy the country.

    Until we’re ready to march on DC with torches and pitchforks, this same shit is going to keep happening again and again.

    But … we were smart enough to smell a rat … yay for us!

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Today, it don’t mean nuth’in. What is done is done and picking through numbers ain’t going to change the bitter truth. The American people forsake their freedom for the soft tyranny of safety and that’s not going to change.

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    LuckyLeo growls and barks:

    Thank you also, Caveman

    The more I think about this; the more I can’t shake this fact:

    Americans do not support failure.

    Look, how some of us started in on Romney here and the GOP. Some may say, “Well that is just sour grapes” or “The GOP is the Party of Stupid! They deserve to get bashed!”

    Okay, fair enough. But look at this: why are we so upset with them?

    Simple answer: They lost. They failed. They are “failures”.

    Okay, this economy is an EPIC fail. Libya 9/11 was an EPIC fail. Solyndra was an EPIC fail. The unemployment numbers, high gas prices, the stimulus package, etc ad nauseam. I can go on and on.

    Americans do not support failure of this magnitude. We just don’t. I mean, come on! Some of us are ready to destroy Romney and the GOP because of this election. And this election is not even CLOSE to the disaster of these last four years.

    This isn’t just “people want free stuff” and the product of the “entitlement mentality” I say this, because again, those useful idiots do NOT outnumber the producers and workers of this society. They just don’t..

    Mark my words here. Americans do not support failure.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    It was as I predicted in a much earlier thread, Romney had an early lead then Obummers fraud squads got to work.
    Sometimes I hate being right. :em08:

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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Ahh shit Boss- We talked about this and here we go. I cannot believe those numbers. GOP enthusiasm was off the charts without a doubt and 3 million fewer showed up.

    Fuck Me !!!!!!

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    LC Jackboot IC/A says:

    GOP enthusiasm was off the charts without a doubt and 3 million fewer showed up.

    One minor point that explains these number to me….. GOP enthusiasm was high to GET RID of Obama, there was considerably less in the way of enthusiasm to hire Romney. Those of us that frequent the Rott are engaged, we follow politics year long every year. Most people follow politics for a couple months every other year at best. Those people need someone to vote for, not just someone to vote against. The GOP didn’t give them that.

    We need to be real careful who we support from here. They must be the complete package, nothing else will do. They must have a clear message and articulate the specifics. (note that doesn’t mean we must agree 100% with their plan, just that they must have a clear one.) They must be charismatic and engaging. It’s the only way to win now, we lost this election on PR. Bill Clinton rode in and crushed us. The GOP must adapt or fade into history.

    If I would have had the foresight to see this coming I would have been one of the people encouraging folks to break rank and vote 3rd party, just to help give the GOP a wake up call. The way I see it that is our play now……. demand more from our candidates in the primary season, and if we don’t get it sent our votes elsewhere. We need to admit to ourselves that we compromised with Romney cause he was the best chance to beat the HellBeast. It didn’t work and I doubt it will work in the future considering the twitter culture we live in.

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    harleycowboy growls and barks:

    With all the reports of malfunctioning voting machines, withheld collected absentee ballots, military not getting their ballots, shredded voter registrations all over the country I can see it happening. I know 3 million people didn’t die in four years. Maybe in two years we can boost ourselves to a majority in the House and Senate. With a supermajority a lot of sh*t can get canceled.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Have heard it explained as the silent anti-Mormon bias, but no idea if that is accurate. It might account for some drop off, but probably not that much of one. :em03:

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    harleycowboy growls and barks:

    I wasn’t all that keen on his Mormonism but it beat the hell out of the socialist.

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    0007 growls and barks:

    Let’s see here… voting machines in several states that reportedly registered votes for the nitwh when the Romney button was pushed; 15-20 precints in pisholedelphia where repub poll watchers denied entrance; busloads of somalis seen in Ohio, voters going 3-1 in south florida(where the polls stayed open until 10pm – or as long as necessary to ginn up a win for the nitwh; ballots for military voters “disappearing” in a plane crash…

    Anybody besides me smelling a serious stench across the country??? And of course Bonehead and company will continue playing the go-along/get-along game.

    As my supervisor said to me today, ” F*** ’em; I’m done with those people.”

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    Pockmark growls and barks:

    I’d like to inject a little math here. In 2008, 59,948,240 people voted for McCain/Palin. In 2012, 57,678,063 people voted for Romney/Ryan. Now, if we subtract the latter from the former, we get…let me see, carry the one…2,270,173. Which, honestly, should probably be described as a little over 2 million less voters and not 3 million less voters.

    Another interesting bit of math, in 2008, the Libertarian candidate Bob Barr received 523,713 votes. In 2012, the Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson received 1,139,562.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    I would think the voting machines switched votes on a massive scale, along with the dead vote, the zero information feelings vote, the felon vote and the supression of nearly all of the military vote and you have some serious “change” on your hands.
    The LSM is accessory to the crime.
    Just wait and see who the asshole appoints to the courts and get ready for the executive order snowstorm to bypass the house. Rough riding ahead for everyone but there is a solution that will happen with or without assistance. As the economic shitstorm hits after he lets the “Bush tax cuts TM” expire, and raises the marginal rates, and lowers the new tax threshold to 75K or higher, kills home ownership dedutcions and more, the economy is going to go negative, unemployment will exceed the ability of the states to pay and on top for the cherry, obamacare takes over. Oh, and let’s not forget California, Illinois and NY going belly up with massive bailouts to fund the union pension funds. They are going to have to sub-contract China to print more dollars, our presses won’t have the capacity to keep up. Rough ride coming folks, rough ride.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Keep in mind that the voting machines were provided by SCYTL, a Spanish company with ties to George Soros. Does this add a little clarity.
    At least my vote was not changed, beccause SoDak still uses paper ballots.
    Then you might want to consider the possibilities that early voting gives for shifting votes and voters around, and allowing professional voters opportunity to visit many locations. I’ve been warning about this ever since 1996.
    But nobody, Particularly Gentleman Mitt, wants to be so ungentlemany as to yell cheat, even if beaten by a dealer with five aces.

    Early on, I opposed Mitt, but got behind him after he got the nomination, and tried to talk myself into as much enthusiasm as possible. I shoulda stuck by my convictions and and followed my gut. And for that I will accept my serving of crow. May I have a right wing in barbecue sauce please?

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. @ #:

    Right wing in barbecue sauce please?

    Insolent peasant! Did you not observe My recent triumph? You shall have naught but the Left wing, for which you shall be grateful, as My munficence is boundless.


    B. Hussein Obama

  19. 19
    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #:

    Fie varlet!
    Though I be wounded
    I be not slayne
    I shall lay me down to bleede a while
    And rise and fight agayne.
    My country may have perished, but not I. Search the Forty-seven Ronin.

  20. 20
    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    I suspect, Sire, that your observation of this interesting little fact has placed you upon a new list somewhere in the bowels of the Directorate of Administrative Un-Personing, a new office located in the recently-created Ministry of Political Behavioral Compliance within the rapidly militarizing Department of Homeland Security. But I could be getting a little ahead of the administration. They may not want this widely known.

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    Orion growls and barks:

    Just a suggestion, since y’all seem to be coming ’round to the point of view I’ve held for 4 years and more…

    Read up on asymmetric warfare.

    Study up on the power grid (esp. major inter-grid transformers, Nearly impossible to replace), transportation network (esp bridges over main waterways), and petroleum distribution network (esp the very few refineries we have). Learn the vulnerabilities in the PLCs and other ‘net-connected control systems so that the more technologically savvy among us (like DJ!) can be on the look out for those who would attack these weak points.

    We need to be prepared, of course, for those who would seek to harm our nation. It would be truly AWFUL if the major coastal cities lost power (and hence water), fuel, and food. They would likely destroy themselves in looting and food and water riots. The first step to defend against such terror is to learn how the enemy might try to attack them. Then, keep an eye out for suspicious activity and notify the authorities as soon as any is noticed!

    I would suspect domestic terrorists would likely use commonly available encryption methods that are well-nigh unbreakable to organize small cells online. Fortunately, we should be able to detect these groups formation and communications via un-encrypted chatter on terrorist-friendly blogs and newsgroups. They are likely sloppy and undisciplined, but don’t count on it. Be vigilant! Look for these clues and notify the authorities when located!

    Our nation has been essentially destroyed from within, but there’s no reason to let it go to the dogs.


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    Pockmark growls and barks:

    More math. It seems in the 1,2,3 Four hours since I posted my earlier numbers, they’ve changed. as of right now, Mitt Romney stands at 57,810,407. That’s 132,344 more votes in 4 hours. Which means a couple of things. First, maybe when Misha originally posted this, is was 3 million apart. In that case, describing it as 3 million votes would have been accurate.

    But I think the more important point, is that there are still votes being tallied. California is only at 69%. There might be 3 states that are fully tabulated. So, that would mean there’s still quite a few votes to be added to the final count. So this “particular data point” is probably moot, as it’s clear based on how things are moving, Romney will most likely match, if not exceed, McCains numbers.

    Conspiracy theories are fun though.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Pockmark says:

    More math. It seems in the 1,2,3 Four hours since I posted my earlier numbers, they’ve changed. as of right now, Mitt Romney stands at 57,810,407. That’s 132,344 more votes in 4 hours. Which means a couple of things. First, maybe when Misha originally posted this, is was 3 million apart. In that case, describing it as 3 million votes would have been accurate.

    I assure you that it was at the time and yes, it will likely change some.

    Pockmark says:

    Conspiracy theories are fun though.

    They certainly can be, but I’ll have to be quite frank here and say that nobody would be happier than me to have all of this explained to me in a logical fashion so that it no longer looks at all strange, and I hope that will happen as all of the results come in. Already some further explanations and analyses are rolling in. Good.

    Because if it’s more than just idle conspiracy-mongering, then it’s truly frightening for the nation as a whole.

    But I remain hopeful. I’m just not in the habit of shrugging off things that look strange. I am open to shrug them off once they no longer look strange.

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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says:

    We need to admit to ourselves that we compromised with Romney cause he was the best chance to beat the HellBeast.

    We as in us, didn’t compromise ourselves with Romney. He was merely the last man standing after that fiasco of a primary season. Most of us had a lot of animosity for Romney from the beginning, but once he assumed the banner of the party it was obviously yet another case of holding our noses and pulling for what we see as a less than ideal candidate. I was prepared to go 3rd Party but considering the horrors of the Ogabe administration over-rode my desire to teach the GOP a lesson in favor of getting behind that man and getting Obama out of Dodge. We agreed that come November 7, the GOP was going to be fish food, since we are bloody well sick of yet another moderate loser. Developing a viable 3rd Party is the work of a generation. You have to start with the useless local elected positions and work your way up into the state ranks before even considering the national limelight. The ability of Obama to have the meteoric rise he did, is something that comes along once in a lifetime. Before even considering a Third Party build-out we have to learn how to educate an electorate that has moved away from the conservative principles that made the country great. We’ve passed the tipping point in culture, where the electorate majority is content to be net recipient of other people’s money and has no interest in anyone telling them that it.will.stop.and.soon. when we go into financial freefall. We must find the educational balance between the indoctrinated masses short attention spans and the more complex ideas like basic economics. That friends, is one helluva job at best because we first have to teach them english. The other factor is that unless we can motivate immigrant populations into assimilating it’s a waste of time. Peoples arriving here from the third world see the free shit pretty much the same as their home countries. Unless and until we STOP unfettered illegal immigration across our southern border, we will lose our country merely by the weight of numbers. The bastards outbreed us by large factors and like our own welfare whores, swill up every penny offered to them by the government.

    See where I’m going. There really is only one answer to the problem with a chance of success in our lifetimes and that is one, no one wants to really contemplate.

    The rest of y’all can go to hell, I’m staying in TEXAS

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    This morning, after 2 coffees, some lucidity has just penetrated my thinking…. Now, for real, SCOAMF has to GOVERN. He spent the last 4 years CAMPAIGNING for re-election, guess what, no more re elections coming and no need to campaign. As it seems that flapping his jaw and campaigning is the ONLY thing he knows how to do, he is now going to be swinging in the wind with no direction. This is going to be painful, but at the same time we could be needing popcorn and a stiff drink, assuming any of us will still be able to afford either.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    LC Jackboot IC/A says:

    The rest of y’all can go to hell, I’m staying in TEXAS

    I may meet you there before it’s all said and done. A large part of me resists the idea of leaving the piece of mountain top where my family has been for a century. I’ve always said I’ll be planted here, but with my Grandfather getting ready to take the spirit trail I find there is less and less reason to stay. Plus I think my lovely bride would enjoy living someplace without 4 months of ice and snow.

  27. 27
    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Now, for real, SCOAMF has to GOVERN.

    I disagree. All he has to do now is tell Congress to go perform a physical impossibility with itself, sign a few executive orders, and head off to the links. Rumor is that Valerie Jarrett is our actual president, anyway.

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    The Lone Haranguer growls and barks:

    Maybe it isn’t a conspiracy. Maybe 3 million Republicans or conservatives just stayed home because he wasn’t their ideal candidate. (And just who should have been?) How many people here said they were going to do that?

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    Pockmark growls and barks:

    I believe another clue has been uncovered in the Case of The Strange Data Point

    Apparently a key component of Romney’s GOTV effort ended up being a total fustercluck. Project Orca was supposed to be

    a web-based app volunteers use to relay the most up-to-date poll information to a “national dashboard” at the Boston headquarters. From there, data will be interpreted and utilized to plan voter turnout tactics on Election Day.

    Unfortunately, according to John Ekdahl of Ace of Spades, it was an “unmitigated disaster”.

    It’s worth a read, but the basics are quite simple. The Romney campaign, in an effort to compete with the Obama ground game, came up with a new system for using volunteer poll watchers to help track voting trends in the key swing states. Campaigns have always used volunteers to do this using lower tech methods (strike lists and payphones), but ORCA was a new system that would use smart phones and a central database to coordinate the GOTV effort. There were even some articles that appeared a week before the election touting it as the Romney Campaigns secret weapon.

    But, as I noted before, it appears to have been a complete failure. Actually a pile of failure. That someone lit on fire. And then peed on. A big, stinky, smoldering, urine soaked pile of failure.

    So, why does this matter? Well, from my reading of these articles, ORCA didn’t just supplement one of the standard GOTV efforts of 2008, it completely replaced it. And if it just didn’t work, it may explain why a lot of potential Romney voters in some of the important states never made it to the polls.

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    Pockmark growls and barks:

    The Lone Haranguer says:

    Maybe 3 million Republicans or conservatives just stayed home because he wasn’t their ideal candidate.

    Yeah, that too.