Alllllll-RIGHTY Then…

What’s that we see before us? A heaping helping of crow? Forsooth, we did not even know that so much crow existed.

We better tuck in, because we have a feeling that in a few years we’ll be looking back longingly on the days when we could dig into all of that delicious crow rather than the three spoonfuls of Gummint Gruel that we break our backs to gather for dinner.

Looks like we were wrong. No, not just wrong, but completely into the next six zip codes of wrong. So far beyond wrong that the light from Galaxy Wrong won’t reach us for another 100 years.

But at least we are in good company. Some of the brightest minds in our nation were just as wrong as we are. In fact, every single indicator that previously predicted the outcome of a future election to a tee was wrong. Unemployment above 7.2% (and, in fact, higher than when the incumbent took office), wrong. Crashing economy, anemic growth, wrong. Crushing debt, wrong. Myriad newspapers previously never known to endorse the party running against the incumbent suddenly breaking for the challenger, wrong. Independents breaking massively for the challenger, in fact in double digits, wrong. Turnout against the incumbent, wrong. Anecdotal evidence of pathetic support for the incumbent, massive support for the challenger, wrong. We could go on for quite some time, but we think you get the point by now.

Every single indicator that has previously indicated which way an election would go has suddenly, for the first time in history, turned out to be no longer valid.

All in the same year.

That’s interesting, isn’t it? Well, at least we think that it is. And we deliberately left out the “polls”, because they’ve been wrong plenty of times before. They were right this time, except for the two that have a history of generally being right, simply by virtue of being the biggest, most thorough polls taken. They too, were wrong. Massively wrong. Unexpectedly.

That’s interesting too, isn’t it?

But we digress. We were wrong. Somehow, for the first time in history, every single indicator showing that the incumbent was about to lose was wrong, and we find some comfort in that. At least it’s not like we were the lone holdout Pollyanna arguing against reason that we were right and everybody else was wrong.

It’s just interesting.

So where do we go from here? Well, if we were a leftist swine, we’d be curling into a fetal ball and say “it’s all over” and proclaim that we were moving to [insert name of other nation here]. We’re not, however. We’re Viking and, therefore, clinically proven to be genetically stark raving mad. We don’t know of this “resignation” of which others speak. Unless it means “going freaking berserk, because why the fuck not?” And we suspect that’s not what it means, mainly because people using the word don’t look in the slightest like somebody who is about to go bug shit crazy and charge at the enemy waving a broadsword around.

His Imperial Majesty likes to keep things simple: We’re still breathing, which means that there’s still some fight left in us so, hey, why the hell not? Lots of people aren’t still breathing, and we’re fair certain that they’d be a bit miffed if we decided to just take our ball and go home for milk and cookies because we got a kick in the nuts.

We’ve still got four heroes who were left to die in Benghazi because of SCOAMF’s political aspirations, and we don’t much think that they’ll be inviting us to their table in Valhalla for drinks if we just curl up and die, for one thing. And that’s assuming that Valhalla has changed its policy on not letting whiny pussies in at all over the last 2,000 years. And then there are all of the Founding Fathers who gave everything to create what is being destroyed around us. Not to mention the millions who gave their lives in the 236 years since then in order to make sure that we still had it.

We can’t say for sure, of course, since we don’t even own a Ouija board, but our best guess at this point is that they wouldn’t much approve if we were to just start bawling like babies and cry “it’s all over, we’re doomed, might as well just give up on this whole United States of America thing because we just got kicked in the balls and the odds are against us.”

Sure, we may FEEL like doing just that, right now, but following through on that is not really going to accomplish anything other than marking us as the most worthless, dickless, pathetic excuse for an American that ever wasted oxygen.

So the fight goes on.

We fight until we can no longer fight. Because we’re dead.

But we’re not dead.

So fight it is.

We have a republic. We like it. You think you can take it from us? Come get it. Bring friends. And bags. Lots of bags. You’ll need them.

Fuck you. We aim to misbehave. We aim to misbehave badly. And you won’t like it.

Now quit fucking crying and charge, guys, we’ve got the enemy all around us, just exactly where we want him. You can’t swing your sword without hitting him.

Either way, we’ll have some damn good stories to tell and the leftist swine will know they’ve been somewhere.

Charge into them.

Thatisall.

92 comments

  1. 1
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    If only we could do that. Somehow the 1776 solution seems less likely today.

    Honestly, I’d go for splitting the country in two and giving them their socialist love paradise. Wall the fucking thing off and give me my country back. Or at least half of it, anyway.

  2. 2
    Duke Wayne growls and barks:

    Proving once again that your bookmaker knows more than you do.
    \
    I said Barry would get 303 votes. Can’t be right about everything.

  3. 3
    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Yep, you were correct Wayne. Congratulations on that……. and on being the biggest tool I’ve seen yet today. Does it make you feel all powerful to come to a conservative blog, yap like a little dog where there is no chance of getting your ass handed to you? You’re a cowardly little shit pile.

  4. 4
    Duke Wayne growls and barks:

    LC Xealot says:

    If only we could do that. Somehow the 1776 solution seems less likely today.
    Honestly, I’d go for splitting the country in two and giving them their socialist love paradise. Wall the fucking thing off and give me my country back. Or at least half of it, anyway.

    I guess that would be the Right Wing Republic of Overfed, Balding, Middle Aged White Men- a group that arithmetic shows takes back a lot more from the Federal Government than they pay in.

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    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    Some of the brightest minds in our nation were just as wrong as we are. In fact, every single indicator that previously predicted the outcome of a future election to a tee was wrong.

    Which “brightest minds” were those? There were several people who have gotten the previous four elections correct almost to that “tee”, and Nate Silver has once again been vindicated. Like he said, it really isn’t rocket science, it is just plain math.

    There were also all of those polls that you refused to pay attention to, because they were obviously “skewed” or something. It also proved that Rasmussen is about as worthless as wingtips on a snake.

    Mitt Romney wasn’t the best candidate the Right could have put up there — in fact he was damaged goods to begin with. The only reason he got the nomination is because he had the most money to put up. What really screwed him was not coming with specifics, and he got severely beat up during the primary cycle to the point that there was plenty of negative ammunition to use against him.

    I did like his concession speech. He actually looked human instead of a robot. He said all the right things, and for the first time he looked sincere. He also looked as though a huge weight had been lifted off of him — he looked relieved.

    Paul Ryan is probably even happier. This means that he is open to run himself in 2016 Chris Christie and several of the other heavy weights (no pun intended) who had decided to put off their ambitions until 2016 are probably ecstatic also.

    Romney was a placeholder candidate. I think I’ve said that here several times before. If he had won, it would have been completely accidental. Obama was going to win even if Mitt Romney had to throw the race himself.

    Why would I say that? Because regardless of who had won tonight, the next four years are going to be fucked up. There are a couple of more shoes to drop with our economy, and the guy holding the bag is probably going to be Obama.
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    Duke Wayne growls and barks:

    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says:

    ? You’re a cowardly little shit pile.

    I was such a coward that I offered to back up my opinion at even money with hard earned cash. For all the big talk, couldn’t find any takers among you big ass takers. Proved to be a smart move by you.

  7. 7
    Orion growls and barks:

    As I said, massive voter fraud. So blatant as to be comical.

    Posters of Dear Leader in the polling places? Check
    Ignoring judges’ orders to cover them? Check.
    Poll workers wearing Obama garb? Check.
    Poll workers voting peoples’ ballots FOR them? Check.
    Republicans finding their ballots already voted for them? Check.
    Voting machines scoring votes for Romney as votes for Obama? Check.
    Pretty much every Republican or Conservative ballot measure across the country going down to defeat? Check.
    Republicans being assaulted outside polls? Check.
    Disenfranchised military voters everywhere? Check.
    Military ballots being lost, destroyed, or mailed too late to matter? Check.
    President Obama’s private stormtroopers making sure only the right folk vote? Check.
    Media outrage? Um…seems to be a mite shy there.
    People’s outrage? Baaaaaa!

    I think I’ll take my United States flag down and put it somewhere safe, like the POWs in Hanoi did. Someplace where I can treasure it as a memory of where I used to live, a memory of a land of free men. And then I’ll put up the flag for the nation I live in now – the USSR.

    I predicted Barry getting 281, IIRC. Even I was short on how much voter fraud they would literally throw in our faces. I didn’t think they’d risk it. Clearly they know they own us enough to do whatever they wish, as is only appropriate for Royalty when confronted by unruly serfs.

    I wonder of Obama will bring back Prima Nocta? If not, I’m sure HIllary in 2016, or 2020, or whoever is appointed over us after her 8 years will take care of it.

    I said in 2008 that it was our last chance to save the Republic. I was right. This wasn’t even a FARCE. It was a tragedy. This will be the bleakest Veteran’s day ever. All those men, dead for nothing.

    Because government of the people, by the people, and for the people has at last, vanished from this Earth.

    Orion

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Deej: I’ve defended you in the past. No more. Your “suicide watch” sneers were enough to convince me that I am, and have been, very wrong about you.

    Go to hell.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Because regardless of who had won tonight, the next four years are going to be fucked up. There are a couple of more shoes to drop with our economy, and the guy holding the bag is probably going to be Obama.

    Honestly I’m not all that worried about the economy. Yes it is gonna suck, but as badly as we try to screw it up over the next four years EU countries will be trying even harder. What worries me is the attacks on our rights. Romney would have been bad enough, but a second term Obama trying to create his ideal society……..

    I hope I’m wrong, but I see things going badly. And now I’m sure there ain’t enough of us to stand up and fight it.

  10. 10
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    I hope I’m wrong, but I see things going badly. And now I’m sure there ain’t enough of us to stand up and fight i

    You’d be better off doing something about the “human rights tribunals” aka Mark Steyne. Forgot those, did we?

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    Orion growls and barks:

    Oh, c’mon! Having a Supreme Court with 6 or 7 nice young, Communist judges on it will be WONDERFUL!

    For the next, say 40 or 50 years.

    Orion

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Duke Wayne says:

    I was such a coward that I offered to back up my opinion at even money with hard earned cash. For all the big talk, couldn’t find any takers among you big ass takers. Proved to be a smart move by you.

    Yeah, cause making a bet on the outcome of an election was EXACTLY what I was talking about. I’ll update my above statement. You’re a cowardly, moronic little shit pile.

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    Duke Wayne growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Which “brightest minds” were those? There were several people who have gotten the previous four elections correct almost to that “tee”, and Nate Silver has once again been vindicated. Like he said, it really isn’t rocket science, it is just plain math.

    DJ Allyn recently posted..Democracy ~ Leonard Cohen

    Silver is amazing but anybody with a brain already knew that. He knows the math, he’s street smart, he has a smart gambler’s instincts, and hes got guts. Congratulations to him.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Which “brightest minds” were those? There were several people who have gotten the previous four elections correct almost to that “tee”, and Nate Silver has once again been vindicated. Like he said, it really isn’t rocket science, it is just plain math.

    Like in 2010, when he completely missed the fucking boat on 3 out of 5 actually contested races.

    Bloody boy wonder, he is.

    He got one right, 2008, which even conservatives were on the fence about, and he’s suddenly the Albert Einstein of prognostication.

    But I’m glad that you’re glad. Unlike you, I actually know where this train is headed since I’ve lived it, so please do go on with your hilarious suicide jokes. It’s quite prevalent in countries that adopted the Ogabe model, only they’re not quite as amused by it.

    But fuck, who cares? People killing themselves because life is unlivable is FUN, isn’t it?
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    howardfrombroward growls and barks:

    gee, with romney and the republicans leading in all the polls, how do you explain all the “miraculous” upsets last night by obama and the fellow chicago thugs? surely no one was cheating on the polling counting end??? jail time for a lot of goons… maybe the disappeared since those june 28 criminal charges eric holder will “magically” reappear to declare that recounts are unnecessary

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Dork Weenie sneered:

    I guess that would be the Right Wing Republic of Overfed, Balding, Middle Aged White Men

    Anyone else suspect DW is a self-loathing fat, bald, white guy?

  17. 17
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    But I’m glad that you’re glad. Unlike you, I actually know where this train is headed since I’ve lived it, so please do go on with your hilarious suicide jokes. It’s quite prevalent in countries that adopted the Ogabe model, only they’re not quite as amused by it.

    Yeah, all we have to do is look at Africa, for a real time sit-rep. Civil wars since the sixties, genocide, massive famine. Sounds like a real fun fucking time.

    LCBrendan @ #: 8
    Welcome to the Darkside. Undoubtedly you’ve now been been reported to the New KGB. Or is it the Stasi ?? Or the Gestapo ?? Damn, could someone please tell which one it is ?

  18. 18
    ebrown2 growls and barks:

    Some prescient commentary on tonight’s election by a Nobel prizewinner:

    The Gods of the Copybook Headings

    AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
    I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
    Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

    We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
    That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
    But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
    So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

    We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
    Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
    But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
    That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

    With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
    They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
    They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
    So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

    When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

    On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

    In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
    By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
    But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

    Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
    And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
    That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

    As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
    There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
    That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
    And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

    And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
    When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
    As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
    The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

    R. Kipling-1919

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Duke Wayne @ #:

    I guess that would be the Right Wing Republic of Overfed, Balding, Middle Aged White Men- a group that arithmetic shows takes back a lot more from the Federal Government than they pay in.

    “Overfed” I f I eat once a day, I’m damn lucky.
    “Balding” No, I keep my hair short because it does not allow an enemy a hand hold.
    “Middle aged” Just a little over 36.
    “White” I’m proud to be a member of the Cherokee and Shawnee nations, mixed with the “white” that you try to throw as a racist term.
    “Men” Yes, I have a penis with a set of testicles.
    And hard enough to slit your throat, and able to go to sleep after the deed is done. You fucking waste of oxygen.

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    Duke Wayne growls and barks:

    LC Xystus says:

    Dork Weenie sneered:
    I guess that would be the Right Wing Republic of Overfed, Balding, Middle Aged White Men
    Anyone else suspect DW is a self-loathing fat, bald, white guy?

    I beg your pardon- I’ve got a great head of hair. And I think I like myself. I have one talent- I sure know how to predict elections. Have to concede – Am white and a little overweight.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    I guess that would be the Right Wing Republic of Overfed, Balding, Middle Aged White Men

    Fifty isnt middle aged. BZZZZT

    Overfed? Nope.

    Balding? Nope

    BTW jerkweed, the above species can be found during the day but not at home. AT WORK. Which is where, I doubt, you have been any time soon.

    a group that arithmetic shows takes back a lot more from the Federal Government than they pay in

    You mean the taxes they have been paying since starting work as a youth?

    FAIL.

  22. 22
    Draven32 growls and barks:

    Duke Wayne says:
    a group that arithmetic shows takes back a lot more from the Federal Government than they pay in.

    yeah the funny kind of math that says that conservative areas (not just states) pay out more than they take in gets those numbers by counting MILITARY SPENDING as money ‘paid out’…

  23. 23
    Rutho growls and barks:

    The economy will be a major problem, everywhere is linked, once one nation falls the rest aren’t strong enough to stand alone and will tumble as well. It will start in Europe but it won’t stop there, and it won’t stop until Africa-are-us. The collapse will be blamed on the “fatcats” and much state-sponsored confiscation or destruction of wealth will occur. Recovering then will be incredibly difficult, as those previously capable will be be so no longer.
    Massive Democrat based voter fraud will be shown, but will not be punished, as it will never see a court and will therefore not be “proven”. Any exceptions will be “isolated cases not worth following up on”. Any “proven” cases will probably be Republican.
    Obama will push even more entitlement spending and anything that goes wrong will obviously be the fault of the Republicans. Any backlash will be used as an excuse to introduce more restrictions/countermeasures e.g. gun control, or ammo restriction at least…
    I’m going to stop now I’m getting too depressed.

  24. 24
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Possibly the most optimistic item I’ve seen all day: Benghazi: The Democratic Party Will Be Lucky if Obama Loses

  25. 25
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    As an aside, “Duke Wayne” has been pulling the exact same bookmaker routine over at Ace’s.

    I beg your pardon- I’ve got a great head of hair. And I think I like myself. I have one talent- I sure know how to predict elections. Have to concede – Am white and a little overweight.

    C’mon, only one talent?

    Working the deep fryer at Burger King is a great responsibility. That’s two talents. You’re right in “liking yourself”. Way to go champ!

    Oh, and kudos for being 1 – 0 in your election “prediction”.

    Maybe you could parlay your “winnings” into getting an apartment and move out of your mother’s basement.

    I’ll give you a tip. If you want to stop being “a little overweight”, lay off the french fries. It’ll help with that pimple problem as well.

    Just trying to help….

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    Ballot box – to the extent that it already wasn’t useless – is now officially useless. We live in a country (no longer a Nation) where the ignorant, lazy wards of the state outnumber us.

    We have a republic.

    Emperor, I must respectfully disagree with you.

    We have a democracy, where the lowest elements have been taught that they can successfully vote themselves largesse from the public coffers at the expense of those who work and produce.

    I am John Galt.

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    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Just worth mentioning – I don’t think Deej is going to have to spend a lot of time waiting around for suicides:

    Jarrett told them, “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”

    She was talking directly to about three of them. Sr. staff. And she wasn’t trying to be quiet about it at all. And they were all listening and shaking their heads and smiling while she said it. Pretty creepy.

    This was apparently about a week ago.

    – MD

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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Duke Wayne says:

    I guess that would be the Right Wing Republic of Overfed, Balding, Middle Aged White Men- a group that arithmetic shows takes back a lot more from the Federal Government than they pay in.

    I’m not overweight, balding, and actually I’m young not middle-aged, but we’ll roll with your assessment for now.

    You have the intelligence of a rock, sir. Let’s review, shall we? Who is paying taxes? It’s not the poor, and by admission of much of the Left, that means… poor people are more likely to be NON-whites. Now we also know that young people are generally not so well off as those who have worked for a decade or two in the workforce, so they aren’t the ones paying either. So, who is paying the taxes, then? Rich folk pay about half of if. And the other half… why, I’m betting a lot of them are middle aged white men. I suppose I’m racist for even bothering to refute your argument, but what can you do?

    So grow a brain, find your balls, and come up with an argument that doesn’t stink like yesterday’s meat.

  29. 29
    LC Darth Scoundrel growls and barks:

    I did my part. NC went red by a bigger margin than it went blue last time.

    So what’s gonna happen when the gubbmint cheese runs out?
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    Deej is right about one thing: Romney wasn’t the best candidate the GOP could have put forth. Hell, Deej’s assessment is an understatement.

    As Rob said last night, the GOP has no one to blame but itself. Its establishment supported Romney from the start, and everyone pretty much knew that it was a predetermined conclusion that he would get the nomination, despite some spikes from the odious Gingrich and the batshit crazy Santorum. The GOP supported him because he was the spit and polish guy, and because it was his turn (much like they pushed McShitstain on us last time, because it was his turn). They tried to pander to everyone, and they wound up with a guy whom the majority of its supporters considered the “hold your nose” candidate.

    They saw that the majority of the nation actually opposed ObamaCare, and they foisted a candidate upon us who invented the fucking concept and tried to pass him off as different from the status quo. And they rightfully thought that the people would give the GOP their vote, because… well hell… look at the alternative!

    Add to that the fact that Akin “legitimately raped” his party up the ass, and you have a perfect recipe for another four years of Zero. Why do I say that? Because without Akin’s lunacy, his refusal to just go the fuck away like a bad case of genital warts, and the GOP’s eventual return to enthusiasm for that kook, Mourdock’s comments on abortion (which were by all accounts pretty mainstream and not shocking), would not have been blown out of proportion, and given the small margin by which he lost, we probably could have had that seat in GOP hands.

    And by the way, Gary Johnson took about 1 percent in Virginia, which would have given Romney the victory in the Old Dominion had he not been a minor clone of Obunghole. And it’s NOT Johnson’s fault. He represents fiscal conservatism and keeping the government out of our personal lives – something Republicans USED to stand for.

    Oh well…

    carry on. :em02:
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    sablegsd growls and barks:

    People celebrating the death of this country won’t be doing much lol’ing when the ebt cards run dry.
    This is a war, and since the ballot box is corrupted beyond repair, it’s time to move to bullets.

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    sablegsd says:

    People celebrating the death of this country won’t be doing much lol’ing when the ebt cards run dry.
    This is a war, and since the ballot box is corrupted beyond repair, it’s time to move to bullets.

    The EBT cards won’t run dry. TheBenBernank will just print more money.

    BTW – just heard RUMINT that Feinstein will be pushing another assault weapons ban if Zero gets elected. Guess what, boys and girls! Gird your loins!
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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    Guys, stop bashing Romney. He did not matter in this. We could have run the genetically engineered partnering of Lincoln and Reagan and the money grubbing scumbags would still vote Obama. This was not about Romney and his vision of small business growth. No sir, this was about which candidate was going to continue the goodie bags of ObamaPhones, ObamaGas, ObamaHomes and other parasitic bullshit.
    No sir, the ballot box is useless. I say we rally our forces in Texas (I am from NJ and Obama used my fucking town as a photo op during Sandy) as Texas right now has one of the highest populations of patriots in America. The time may very well have arrived for them to take their part of the country and we take ours and let them wither of their accord. Once the parasites no longer have us to support them, they will die and we move back in and rebuild our country.
    I fucking hate every last one of them…….load your 10 round magazine of 5.56mm ball ammunition and watch yer lane!!!!

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    single stack growls and barks:

    A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul. – George Bernard Shaw

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

    Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. – P.J. O’Rourke

    The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. – John Hay (1872)

    [On ancient Athens]: In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all – security, comfort, and freedom. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again. – Edward Gibbon

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    Step one in this war absolutely MUST be the abandonment of the Republican Party as the so-called party of conservatives. The reasons for their failure are clear, as I posted late last night. Even if the Republican had won, we would still have had to wage war against a criminal government, so today isn’t all that different from the other outcome after all.

    Conservative unity can and should be built by showing all conservative factions that binding together as conservatives (just as the liberals do in the Democrat party) is what will get conservative principles elected and re-elected for generations to come.

    It’s time to put a serious effort together to persuade members of the various conservative parties, from Libertarian to AIP, to unite under one banner for the purpose of removing this scourge that is best called the REPUBLICRAT party. The best way to do this is probably to start joining these parties and encouraging their cooperation from within. I will be making my change by the first of the year, but I am currently leaning towards the Libertarians, since they are the ones that seem to have both the most potential and the most need for help in making this change.

    The time has come to face once and for all the fact that the Republican Party cares not a whit about America or about those of us with a clue. To them, we have been nothing more or less than useful idiots.

    Now they have been exposed as the useless fools that they are.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Circumspect…..
    My best bud of forty-six years acquantance and I discussed results and future actions, both of our domestic enemies and our own late last night. He is one of the balding white guys having paid massive tax bills in his life. The curse of hard earned success. Also quite well versed in hand to hand combat, any youngster guessing him for an easy mark would be greatly disappointed. And financed his own way through college without government help. He has been an engineer for thirty-five years now, and a part time machinist.
    Barring a crash in the global economy, a very real, growing possibility, we figure we, meaning he and I personally, can go about three years with minimal difficulty. His assets in real estate, half of mine in physical precious metals. Far better off than the rest of the country.
    What we both find sad is the parasites and losers out there will be celebrating the scraps and crumbs the government throws their way, forgetting a decent job would pay better. Those dumbed down by our educational system, told they are owed something.
    Were I unemcumbered by an unpside down mortgage and family ties, slowly draining my resources, I would be heading to Texas right now. I can’t even get a nibble in the job market here. I think I would fit right in, the one state in the Union that could function independently, right down to their own power grid.
    We can’t burn our coal, but we can sell it. Am I missing something? Energy costs to escalate, yet the left will claim they will regulate it to keep prices down to prevent gouging. I can only sigh at such short sighted ignorance.
    It was written we would turn our backs on Israel……..
    Guys…we may have just set the stage for World War Three….and the left wants our guns?
    I would have more respect for a foreign adversary……..a lot more.
    I have some plans to implement,, arrangements to make, goals to fulfill. Ants don’t lament, they turn to…….something I love about country folk, most pragmatic souls we are.
    My door always open to any Rottie should the need arise……..

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Xealot @ #:
    You can thank the Republicans for that problem as well.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    Orion @ #:
    Voter fraud was the only way this was going to happen.

    It’s all a game. You have been played. Fools not to see that the Republicans were IN ON IT.

    NOW can we replace them with a truly conservative force?

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    Orion @ #:
    Second Amendment time!

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    watchyerlane says:

    Guys, stop bashing Romney. He did not matter in this. We could have run the genetically engineered partnering of Lincoln and Reagan and the money grubbing scumbags would still vote Obama. This was not about Romney and his vision of small business growth.

    No? So you’re saying that the guy who used to be for abortion before he was against it, who supports assault weapons bans, and who thinks it’s perfectly acceptable to FORCE people to buy a product through government force is an appropriate candidate for the GOP?

    This is the GOP establishment’s fault. It’s Romney’s fault. And it’s the fault of those who continue to reward the Republican Party with their vote despite continued betrayals.

    Maybe when every last Republican turns away and this nation is awash in a sea of Democrat corruption, overspending and third-world appropriation, the GOP will actually take steps to change. Because right now, I’m not seeing it.

    Who’s next for 2016? Whose turn is it? Gingrich’s? Santorum’s?
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    Cougar1978 growls and barks:

    OK, I’m listening to 740 AM in Houston, and there are some In’orant people on the phones….gloating about Obama winning, but complaining STILL that the gubment hasn’t helped them.

    They haven’t helped Jersey or Zoo Yoik, and that’s their base. What makes you think they’re gonna help you Purple Putzes in Red Country.

    Damn, if we had a Governor with stones, Texas would be a Republic flying solo by the end of the week……

    Deej, Duke, FUCK YOURSELVES AND DIE OF GONORRHEA!!!!!

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    something Republicans USED to stand for.

    When?

    They sure did pay it a lot of lip-service, but I am highly doubtful the Republicans ever actually STOOD for that.

    Look at Reagan. The Republicans did everything they could to AVOID his nomination. Only when they saw the gravy train that he would bring them did they even pretend to come around.

    What was worse was the conservative electorate buying their phony rhetoric hook, line, and sinker. The thing that should make conservatives feel worst today is their having been suckers all these years. Lucky for me, I got over that four years ago. I warned everyone of the crow they would have to eat then, and continued to through this election cycle. No one wanted to hear it.

    No See I Told You Sos, though. If the crow you are eating today isn’t enough to get you to do the right thing, nothing will do it.

    RWR
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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    LC & IB RightWingRocker says:

    You can thank the Republicans for that problem as well.

    I’d love to blame Romney and the RINOs for this debacle, but I can’t. It was said earlier that this is all just demographics… and it’s truth. I’m younger than a lot of folks here on the Rott, and I see something I think many others here miss. My generation is STRONGLY liberal. Our public education system turns out Leftists. My age group is, from my personal guess, over 70% Leftist. Each year, conservatives vanish, and are replaced by liberals.

    It used to be that a lot of folks started off liberal, but grew conservative with age and accumulated wisdom. That no longer holds true. My generation’s leftists will always be leftists. You won’t convert them, I won’t convert them. Romney won’t appeal to them and a true conservative won’t either. It’s to the point that a friend of mine had to take down his Romney sign in his yard because his daughter told him it would make the other kids in school hate her. Former customers and people I worked with no longer want to work with me because I am not a Leftist. On the weekends, I have a second job… as a DJ. I can’t even discuss politics in that line of work, because 99% of DJs are Leftist, and I’d literally kill my chances at good paying gigs by even mentioning that I am not a Leftist. Leftists hate us more than we hate them. And while we are too proud, or honorable, or just stupid to use their tactics against them, they have no compunctions against using them against us.

    The demographics are against us. And that is where we need to expend our efforts. Not for today, for we have lost. Not for 2016, because that will probably be a loss too, no matter who or what we run… but for a more distant future which we might just have a chance at salvaging.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker says:

    When?

    Back in Goldwater’s days? ;)
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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    Nicki, I hear ya. We are on the same team. Who did we have as a conservative that would have garnered votes away from Obama? Nicki, this election was solely about keeping the gravy train going for parasites and no conservative speaking of smaller government and individual freedom was going to defeat the “Eat at the buffet paid for by the rich” candidate.
    Yes, we need conservatism. THat is beyond question. What we needed to do last night was stop the Mach 3 slide into European socialism. We lost that now we have to regroup and rethink our strategies going forward.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker @ #:
    Just read your piece. Well done!!! :em01:
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    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    All of the criticisms that are and will be leveled against Romney and the campaign are misguided. I, like many of you here, hoped that the campaign had accumulated enough momentum and renewed sufficient desire for self-respect and honor among enough of our countrymen that we had a shot at turning this thing around.

    The huge forces at work in politics in our country have moved out of reach of our influence. The powerful desire among a plurality of the electorate for a paternal state that makes big promises to see to their every need is no longer negotiable. Watching the lengths to which Obama’s supporters were willing to go to ensure his reelection is proof enough of this. Seekers of real freedom in our nation have become a permanent minority.

    This happens at a time when the fiscal consequences of having constructed such an electorate in our public indoctrination centers and universities of higher selfishness over several decades are about to catch up to us. The national failure at every level to perceive the difference between money and wealth has already manifested itself in some nasty side effects. The rate at which reality will assert itself over our national delusions will only increase. Crisis will soon follow, and quickly outstrip the capacity of government to care for its hundred million dependents.

    This will all happen without actual comprehension taking place among the people who have brought this upon us, a few of whom post here. They will instead attack those among us who still have some of what they refuse to work for.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    watchyerlane @ #:

    I say we rally our forces in Texas (I am from NJ and Obama used my fucking town as a photo op during Sandy) as Texas right now has one of the highest populations of patriots in America.

    Texas would be a great place for all of us just to move to and secede. New Hampshire has been a dismal failure, but Texas would work because of its robust economy.

    IF we could get enough of us there.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    So you’re saying that the guy who used to be for abortion before he was against it, who supports assault weapons bans, and who thinks it’s perfectly acceptable to FORCE people to buy a product through government force is an appropriate candidate for the GOP?

    Indeed he is.

    The GOP is a party of hypocrites, not conservatives. Just look at their platform. It’s wrought with discrepancies and contradictions.

    The platform swears allegiance to the Second Amendment, for example, yet how many times have we heard Republicans – including Mitt Romney himself – say that we have to enforce the laws already on the books, laws which were passed IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF THAT VERY SECOND AMENDMENT?

    My post is more thorough, but Mitt Romney was PERFECTLY representative of what the Republican Party is about.

    The fact that they had hoodwinked conservatives for so long is the fault of those conservatives.

    I remember the taste of the crow. It was truly nasty. I definitely feel for you, but when you come out of your funk, I look forward to having you finally stand up with me.

    RWR
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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Xealot @ #:
    I was referring to the Republicans’ destruction of the right of secession 150 years ago.

    Remember Lincoln?

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    Back in Goldwater’s days?

    In case you missed it, Goldwater was a complete and utter failure, probably due to his own blind allegiance to the Party of Stupid. Goldwater may have stood for something, but you can bet your sweet ass the Party wasn’t standing with him, regardless of what lip-service they may have paid him.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    Just read your piece. Well done!!! :em01:

    Thanks Nicki!

    Hopefully it shed some light on the reality that is and always has been the GOP.

    Hope you left a comment, and will continue to come by and do so in the future!

    RWR
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    bruce growls and barks:

    i really did not think that americans were stupid enough to reelect a commie negro who hates white people but they did now we all have to live with the consequences.i have said to liberals lets see in a year what your dollar is worth compared to my gold.this is what america wanted now they can live with it ohio voted for the negro in charge so i am sure they must want to pay higher elect rates after bongo closes more coal generating power plants.i did not think we had so many commies in his country looking for some thing for nothing and that is what they will get,nothing.i am old and don’t care any more you can all go fuck your selfes however do what you want but don’t fuck with me.for all you bongo people you can pas all the commie laws you want i won’t obey them.try taking what is mine and i will meet you with deadly force because i don’t care if i can make one or two widows i will die happy.how about you bongo enforcers how will you like it when we leave you children fatherless?wat till you have $10 gas,our health care turned to shit,our military hollowed out,our dollar worthless thank you commies.

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    VAconservative growls and barks:

    Hell, even the Redskin factor was wrong. In 17 of the last 18 presidential elections, the party of the current occupant would win the White House only if the Skins won their last home game before the vote. Cam Newton prevailed over RG III at Fedex field Sunday and the party of the incumbent still won.

    Hear that sound?

    That’s the sound of America going down the toilet. Too many voting for free stuff we can’t afford any longer.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker @ #:
    I didn’t leave a comment, because computers at work are goofy and don’t allow me to leave comments on Blogger, but will do so on WordPress. I have no idea. We are random around here! LOL

    I will definitely continue to stop by and will blogroll you when I get a chance (can’t do anything from work on my WordPress dashboard). I’ll have to start blogging again soon. Just been really tired and busy.
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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    One can always tell when any meeting is over – the dumb bastards start asking stupid questions. Perhaps that’s akin to the GOP running sorry candidates twice in a row; first McLame, then Mittens.

    Many spent much time and trouble debating the merits of Democrats vs: Republicans in the last few months but now it’s been shown the bottom line is that partisan debate is for the fools that believe there’s actually a difference in the two major political parties of the USA – they are one in the same – they have the same goals, none of which involves “protecting and defending the US Constitution”, rather, protecting and defending their own bank accounts by selling out to the highest bidder.

    Look for the blue helmets – coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    LC & IB RightWingRocker says:

    I was referring to the Republicans’ destruction of the right of secession 150 years ago.
    Remember Lincoln?

    Well, there’s that. The South was wrong about slavery, but were right about the right to secede. Oh God, yes, they were right about that.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:

    I didn’t leave a comment, because computers at work are goofy and don’t allow me to leave comments on Blogger, but will do so on WordPress. I have no idea

    I don’t use Blogger comments anyway. IntenseDebate is a whole lot better.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    FrankOK @ #:

    Perhaps that’s akin to the GOP running sorry candidates twice in a row; first McLame, then Mittens.

    Make that SEVEN times in a row …

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker @ #:
    Not sure how that works. Half the time work blocks Blogger, and when it doesn’t, and I want to hit “leave a comment,” it says the site is blocked, because it’s “social networking” or something. I have no idea. Our systems are very very random here. In any case, it will probably be easier to just leave a comment when I get home.

    (And I’m a computer retard, but don’t tell anyone!)
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    LC Wil, S.C.E. growls and barks:

    To the Republican Party:

    Fuck.

    You.

    The Republican party is dead to me.

    Odumbo didn’t even get as many votes as McLame did 4 years ago.

    Hell I could have done that well.

    I look at other numbers than the raw vote totals (only 57 million? Really? Damn, that only 120 k better than George H.W. did in 1988!) The Dow is down 200 + already.

    40% of the country describes itself as Conservative, only 20% as Republican.

    Interesting, as only ~ 35% claim being Demoscum, and 20% as being Librul.

    The Republikans gave us:
    Gerald Ford, which led to the Peanut Farmer.
    George Bush the First, which led to the liar-in-thief.
    BobDole, which led to the second coming of the liar-in-thief.
    George the second, who pissed away what little reputation the republican party had left, causing the rise of Odumbo.

    Alan G(r)ayson was sent back, after we purged his ass in 2010. Thanks, Florida Republican Legislature! Because of you dumb fuckers, the most egregious Piece-Of-Shit in the history of Shit is given another chance, and Allen West, the best hope of the House needs to update his resume.

    Third party time. Fuck the Republican party, and everything that looks like the Republiscum party. May your chains rest easy, and may your go-along, get-along fellow travelers and useful idiots all rot in hell.

    You are handed the best opportunity to wipe the floor with the Socialist Democrat Welfare Party , AND YOU FUCKING BLOW IT ON STEROIDS!

    Bite my ass, you bastards.

    —————————-

    I quit.

    All that I can move is already out of the country, where the takers can’t touch it. Took about 4 hours, so I am short of sleep today. Fuck you for that, as well.

    Now, my drawing account will just cover immediate expenses, and I only work enough to cover that. All that is left in this country is Gold, Silver and Guns. And lead. Can’t forget that part of the investments.

    I have shoveled shit out of a horse barn to earn money before. Be a long damn time before I even try for serious money again.

    John Galt was a scramblin’, diggin’ SOB compared to the next 4 years of me.

    2016?

    The Constitution party will have a nice nest egg.

    Fuck You. And, just FUCK YOU.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    HAHA…

    Well contact me if you need any help with that computer. I’m Microsoft Certified and in need of work!

    RWR
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    themandownthehall growls and barks:

    Sorry, y’all are completely missing the boat. The fact is Romney probably did better than any other republican would have. No one will get elected promising self sufficiency. We live in a country where half the country thinks nothing of living off the work of the other half. Add to that the corporate welfare and corporate kickbacks and we are now a society of plunder.

    We shake our heads at the obamaphone lady and the one who has 15 kids in the hotel screaming “someone has to pay for my kids”. But in one way or another, that is half the country. Hell, more than half. Try to take away the mortgage deduction. Watch the homeowners scream every bit as loud as that obamaphone lady and right next to them will be the real estate lobby. On down the list you can go: medical, travel expense, unnecessary defense spending, Social Security, etc. Back before we used the tax code for social engineering, we didn’t have that stuff being subsidized. Traveling for business? Make it cheap because you’re paying for it. Medical expenses? Why here’s a schedule A. Thank that nice K-street dude over there on your way out. Before, it was just an expense. Now, it’s a deduction and just try to stop it.

    Try to close that Army base we don’t need anymore. Watch the wailing. What? You didn’t save for your retirement? Well, let us help you. Here have some plunder that we’ll call social security. Your neighbor will just have to work a bit harder to send his kids to college and pay for his house.

    Neither Romney nor Obama told people that they would bring back the days of self sufficiency, hard work and making it. Both offered goodies from the public treasury. THAT is how you get elected now. Obama’s goodie bag was more attractive than Romney’s. Hence, he won.

    There is a major economic collapse coming. No one, not Romney, Obama nor even a Paul Ryan or Ron Paul can stop it. It is too late. We will crash. We will burn. What happens next will depend on whether we want to be a phoenix and rise stronger or a hunk of coal and burn to ash to be blown away. But even then, when we rise again, if we can’t make the changes as a society and say “you are on your own, the government is not here to help” to both the people and the companies, the cycle will continue.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    No one will get elected promising self sufficiency.

    Not sure I buy that.

    We haven’t had a candidate from either party even suggest it, so only God knows.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker says:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @ #:
    HAHA…
    Well contact me if you need any help with that computer. I’m Microsoft Certified and in need of work!
    RWR
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    Dude, I WISH I had that kind of power! I wish I could just call someone who will resolve our computer issues. This being FedGov, we have one IT monkey to hook up computer, one IT monkey to hook up monitor, one IT monkey to turn the system on, and 2-3 various IT monkeys to deal with software issues. If you ask the IT monkey who turns the system on to address an issue with, let’s say, an improperly hooked-up monitor, he will tell you that you need to call the IT monkey responsible for hooking up the monitor. Each of these monkeys receives about $60K per year, and DoD shells out twice as much to their contracting company. If I were elected dictator, I would hire ONE competent IT person who can address hardware issues and another for system issues. I would make them DoD employees instead of contractors. And I would fire their stupid asses if they didn’t perform.

    But alas! I have to wait for various monkeys to get their shit together.

    FML
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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    themandownthehall @ #:
    You’re right, of course.

    No paragraph of text can possibly come close to the reality of the disease that infects our species. Drive down the freeway, and wait for the tailgating punk, or the idiot driving 50 in the fast lane of a rural freeway. Work in customer service for a day, and see how horribly people treat each other. Go wait in a DMV line until the end of time, just waiting for your chime… now calling C-304. You’re on camera on the street, on the sidewalk, in the elevator. Fart or pick your nose, and someone is laughing at you, somewhere. You can’t choose how much soda you can buy, or whether you can put an oak tree on your property (is it really your property then?). You can’t choose how to invest your retirement money, or whether or not you want to pay for some crack addict to abort a mutant child at your local government-funded clinic. These are considered to be normal things, desirable things in the mind of the modern Liberal.

    The founding fathers would be horrified beyond comprehension at how low we have sunk. There is a country called the United States of America, and it has a Constitution… but nobody seems to care anymore. Republicans are a Meme-joke, Democrats are the new champions. Voting for a political candidate isn’t about issues, or trust… it’s about how cool a person is. Are you in with the hip crowd? But the hip crowd is all leftist. Even the occasional Art Dealer who might be conservative lives in secret fear that his political affiliations might be discovered.

    We talk about poverty and suffering as if the guy with a TV, a microwave, a car and a place to live is somehow in the depths of terrifying squalor. Did you know, that there was a guy who had to sacrifice the latest Xbox game to buy groceries this month? People don’t want freedom, what’s left of America fears freedom, because they might do something wrong in their lives and have to take responsibility for it. It’s better to work a shit job someplace and grab some government benefits, go home, and play video games or slut around. Nihilism reigns.

    It isn’t so much that America has become Socialist so much as America just doesn’t really care about anything. Every concert has the same fireworks, the same productions. Every movie is a repeat or reboot of the last. Pop music has become the dregs of shallow, repetitive crap. There is no soul left in it, but the production values are flawless, the spin is perfect. Go to the club, watch the value system of the Meat Market at work and realize… these same people vote alongside you and I. And they outnumber us. They can’t see past the next drink, the next disease-infested lay, much less into a future of stagnant socialism and moral bankruptcy.

    Nietzsche talked about his ubermensch, and in the earlier part of the modern era, dictators and thugs around the world believed in it. Today’s thugs have a very different philosophy, they have lost even the capacity to envision greatness in their evil. Smoke your crack, screw your whore and live the good life. Goddamn America, they say, and all its moralizing. Who needs morals? People don’t want to believe in God, not for any question of faith, but for the fact that they don’t want to envision someone judging them for their intellectual bankruptcy.

    Obama is the New Man, spouting off a useless string of meaningless garbage. But it sounds pretty, doesn’t it? It makes the shallow sheep feel good about themselves and the whole cracking edifice. It’s not your fault you have no education, no work ethic, no prospects for success. There was a quasi-mystical boogeyman keeping you from it the whole time.

    This isn’t 1984. O’brien and his Ministry of Love don’t exist. That would require too much effort. Instead we get a mural of Obama looking up at the sky, reaching for the future… painted on the walls of the post-industrial wreckage littering the inner city of Detroit.

    That’s America’s future, if something doesn’t change.

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    LC & IB RightWingRocker says:

    FrankOK @ #:

    Perhaps that’s akin to the GOP running sorry candidates twice in a row; first McLame, then Mittens.

    Make that SEVEN times in a row …

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    I’m sure I missed a few – that’s the nature of the beast.

    I didn’t count GWB, mainly because Chaney was the real president and “W” was there for show – kinda like England’s queen.
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    bruce growls and barks:

    we should do every thing we can to end the republican party.i will never vote for any republicans or democrats.the only thing i will follow is the constitution.fuck this country by voting for the negro in charge you will start a nuclear war in jihad land.

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    LuckyLeo growls and barks:

    Hi Guys,

    Okay, I read all of the comments and listened to the pundits. We are going out of our way blaming ourselves.

    But there is something wrong here: This man is one of the most spectacular failures that I have ever seen!

    Americans voted a failure? Really??

    Americans do not do that. Really, we do not do that. We don’t support failure in our leaders for the most part.

    Something has changed for the worse here. And I am in the middle of the machine (Chicago) and I looked at the faces of people in this town. A lot of people are shocked and dismayed. This is not the same atmosphere as in 2008 where people were SO happy and jubilant after the Won became the first Black President.

    All of these excuses are avoidance of the truth here. There is ONLY one thing that happened here: voter fraud.

    And this was on a scale NEVER seen before in these battleground states because there is was a complicit Enemedia to cover the tracks. Mark my words here.

    That is ALL what happened!

    Look, you are going to tell me with what happened with Scott Brown in Wisconsin, the 2010 elections, the debates, the voter enthusiasm at R&R rallies and the half empty crowd at Obama’s rallies, Independents breaking for R & R — all of that — you gonna tell me with all of that going on that Obama somehow, all of the sudden, sparked his base up and they went in VAST numbers to all of the battleground states, except for NC.

    Yeah, pull the other one. Something went very wrong here and I am not buying it!

    We need to look deeper; and yeah, I know that no one wants to sound like a crazed Barking Liberal Moonbat from the 2000 elections. No one wants to say, “Obama stole the election!!!” I understand that.

    But you know what I’ve noticed: liberals project on conservatives. They accuse us of certain atrocities because that is what they would do in the same position! (Remember how they accused Bush as a coward after 9/11. Look how Obama behaved on his 9/11)

    Just sayin’

    So think about it.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    LC LOBO says:

    Welcome to the Darkside. Undoubtedly you’ve now been been reported to the New KGB. Or is it the Stasi ?? Or the Gestapo ?? Damn, could someone please tell which one it is ?

    All of the above.LC Wil, S.C.E. says:

    The Republikans gave us:
    Gerald Ford, which led to the Peanut Farmer.
    George Bush the First, which led to the liar-in-thief.
    BobDole, which led to the second coming of the liar-in-thief.
    George the second, who pissed away what little reputation the republican party had left, causing the rise of Odumbo

    You forgot Richard “Wage and price Controls” Nixon.
    Damn it, I want a puke smiley back.

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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    themandownthehall @ #63:
    Amen, brother. We are going to take a fall, and it’s going to be NASTY.

    WE deserted God, not the other way around. It’s going to be a long, hard slog back to sanity and goodness, but Rotties and others will weather it. The rest of the world is not going to do so well, especially when the Mad Mullahs get their bomb developed – any day now. Financially Europe is already done circling the bowl, and are now headed into the pipes. The Middle East has greased the skids (thanks to US) and are just about to slide off the edge straight to Hell.

    The cycle will continue, themandownthehall. Bet on it. Plan for it – although if you are just now planning, it’s really too late… :em06:

    Got precious metals (lead, copper, brass) and your 1-year food storage? Why the heck not!?!?!? :em08:

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    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    Orion says:

    As I said, massive voter fraud. So blatant as to be comical.

    Ah, always the excuse to fall back on the day following an election loss. And yes, it would be comical if it were actually true.

    Orion says:

    I think I’ll take my United States flag down and put it somewhere safe, like the POWs in Hanoi did. Someplace where I can treasure it as a memory of where I used to live, a memory of a land of free men. And then I’ll put up the flag for the nation I live in now – the USSR.

    Well, you could always move to Australia and take that place over. But sitting there being melodramatic is kinda silly. Nothing has changed. Calling Obama a “Socialist” or a “Communist” kinda pisses off actual Socialists and Communists. You are just frustrated and angry because YOUR team fumbled the ball and lost the game. Be mad at YOUR team because they put the wrong quarterback in.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    Like in 2010, when he completely missed the fucking boat on 3 out of 5 actually contested races.

    A couple of things. First, it is almost like there are two electorates in this country. One that shows up every four years for the major presidential races, and the other being the one that shows up in the off-years when most people aren’t really paying attention and could care less about showing up at the polls. These are the years where Republicans typically do better, and tend to confound polling data.

    It’s great that you conveniently toss out the consideration of 32 of the 34 races he correctly called and focus only on the three he got wrong. He wasn’t going with his gut, he was going by the math — and he wasn’t too far off the mark on those three he lost. A last minute shift in a poll isn’t impossible, especially if the numbers are almost a virtual tie.

    There is an older site that does pretty much the same thing that Nate Silver does, but doesn’t get the same amount of attention (probably because he isn’t connected to a major publication) But this guy has been correct using the same methods for the past twelve years.

    Silver’s “mistake” in 2010 was counting ties, whereas the guy at Electoral-Vote doesn’t count them. Silver acknowledged that mistake back then and has since changed his methodology.

    Both guys got Indiana wrong in 2008 — it was predicted it would go to McCain by 2 percent and it went to Obama by 1 percent. Horseshoes and hand grenades.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    But fuck, who cares? People killing themselves because life is unlivable is FUN, isn’t it?

    Another one with the melodramatics. Look around you Misha — is life really that “unlivable”? If it is, don’t you think that most of that condition is something of your own doing? The last I looked, we are still able to go anywhere in the country on a whim, we can go to wherever the work is without being stopped by the government, we can start up websites to bitch, piss, and moan about our government and the people we put in place to run it. We can chose to live anywhere we want, and with whom we want. We can stockpile weapons and show them off to each other. We can even run for office if we don’t like the current crop of fucknozzles currently occupying those offices.

    So Obama won last night. If you recall, I predicted this way back when — it really wasn’t a surprise, once Mitt Romney won the nomination. The only surprise was the fact that YOU couldn’t see that the fix was in.

    Like I said way back then, the RNC had no intention of winning this time around. Mittens was a “placeholder” — they had to run someone. So they picked someone who was sure to lose without trying to make it obvious.

    The RNC has their sights set for 2016. They are playing a long game, and have been since Obama won in 2008. They knew that our economic forecast was going to be weak and stagnant for at least six years, and probably a bit longer. We’d have steady growth and progress getting out of the slump, but not fast enough for an impatient electorate expecting instant gratification.

    If a Republican had won last night (and I am saying any one of the MAJOR candidates who are sure to run in 2016), they would have ended up as a one-term president for much the same reason Obama would have if they had one. They would have been perceived as “inheriting a bad pile of shit” and taking too long to dig us out of it.

    For some reason, people look at the economy as a light switch that can be flicked on and things magically get better. Or shut off and things instantly get worse. Republicans love to think that because Democrats won in 2006, that is when our economy went tits up — overnight. That isn’t the case at all. Our problems go back to bad decisions going back over a course of almost forty years by both parties. Maybe even further to the Nixon era. It is naive to think that we are going to fix our way out of this in two or four years.

    That is why Obama will be the sacrificial goat on this, and it will set up a Republican conquest in 2016, at the right time when things will start to get a lot better and they can ride the wave.

    Long game politics.

    In the meantime? We will plug along. You will still have your “freedoms”. You will still have everything you have now. If you apply yourself, you might even end up in a better position than you are in right now — bootstraps, pull on them.

    We are in NO way in the worst place in our history. Not even close. Our government is no where near as corrupt as it was during the Gilded Age. As unpopular as the TARP and Stimulus spending was, it did keep us from falling into another Great Depression. We aren’t suffering from widespread disease or bloody warfare. Most people have flat screen TVs and “Smart Phones”. A large portion of our country is obese — enough to make people living in Uganda jealous. (I have a friend from Uganda tell me the other day that his friends back home WISH they could get as fat as he is — that it is a status symbol of his “prosperity”)

    LC MuscleDaddy says:

    Just worth mentioning – I don’t think Deej is going to have to spend a lot of time waiting around for suicides:

    First off, I was being facetious. You guys built this up to a great Republican win for Mom, Apple Pie, and the Great American way. The let-down is depressing. My Right-wing business partner refuses to come to work this morning. He left yesterday afternoon with a confidence that Obama was going to “blow Obama away” at the polls. By about eight o’clock last night he was in a drunk stupor, cursing the RNC and Romney for being so “incompetent”. I am probably going to have to drive over to his place in a little while and drag is hungover ass into work — we have WORK to do, this shit isn’t going to engineer itself.

    So yes, the gnashing of teeth, the rending of garments, that is to be expected. Then there will be the assignment of blame, and probably even a civil war within the RNC. The five stages of grief tend to apply here also. You all will get over it — we did in 2000 and 2004.

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    They saw that the majority of the nation actually opposed ObamaCare, and they foisted a candidate upon us who invented the fucking concept and tried to pass him off as different from the status quo. And they rightfully thought that the people would give the GOP their vote, because… well hell… look at the alternative!

    Actually, Romney/ObamaCare originated in the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute. Romney just happened to be the first to get it implemented. It was a model that the Right wanted to implement back in the early 1990s, just before Hillary tried to come out with her “HillaryCare” plan. The Romney/ObamaCare model was a Right wing plan first. They only opposed it once Obama started pushing for it.

    watchyerlane says:

    Guys, stop bashing Romney. He did not matter in this. We could have run the genetically engineered partnering of Lincoln and Reagan and the money grubbing scumbags would still vote Obama. This was not about Romney and his vision of small business growth. No sir, this was about which candidate was going to continue the goodie bags of ObamaPhones, ObamaGas, ObamaHomes and other parasitic bullshit.

    WHAT vision of small business are you talking about? The idea that Romney knows anything about running a “small business” is laughable at best. Romney has no experience in producing a product — he makes his money off of other people’s money and sweat.

    No, the problem with Romney is that he has been literally on EVERY possible side of an issue depending on who he is talking to. Name ONE position the man has taken and I can come up with at least one opposite position he has taken — sometimes even in the same day. People saw that he would say anything to get elected and hoped that nobody would notice that he has told someone else something completely different. It was as if he didn’t know there was such a thing as YouTube.

    Some people actually took the time to delve into Mitt Romney’s claims and boasts. His “saving the Olympics” in Salt Lake City? He got several billion from the US taxpayer to make that happen. So much for his wonderful stewardship — but he kinda neglected to tell us about that.

    Frankly, aside from his hallowed name, Ronald Reagan would never have gotten the nomination this last time around. He would have been considered to be “too liberal”. And Lincoln, the father of the Republican Party? I hate to break it to you, but today’s Republican Party is a mirror image to the Republican Party back then. Hell, today’s Republican Party isn’t even the same as it was during Reagan’s time. It has drifted off so far to the Right that unless it gets pulled back, it will probably disappear in the next ten years.

    LC Wil, S.C.E. says:

    Hell I could have done that well.

    What is stopping you from running? Maybe not for president, but for something.

    People get this idea that the president is where all the power is in this country. Wrong. The real power is local — as it should be. Republicans have known this for a long time, and have been focusing on filling up the school boards, city councils, mayoral, judges and state governments with Republicans. That way, when needed they can pull the cream to fill national offices. Democrats are just now figuring that lesson out.

    But there is nothing stopping you from running if you are unhappy with the choices or outcomes. Of course I tend to have a natural suspicion of anyone who actually chooses to be a politician. A couple of the “qualities” of a politician is that they pretty much have to be sociopathic and narcissistic — which probably will make you a failure.

    It’s kinda strange to look at our choices like that — who is the most (or least) of a sociopath or narcissist to vote for.

    LC Wil, S.C.E. says:

    John Galt was a scramblin’, diggin’ SOB compared to the next 4 years of me.

    You do realize that John Galt was a fictional character, don’t you? A one-dimensional one at that. Written by a woman who spent the last years of her life on the Government tit.

    Wil, this isn’t the end of the world. Giving up shouldn’t be an option. Don’t like what the RNC is about? Change it. Become a precinct captain — arguably the most power position in the party, since YOU get to help choose who to put forward as a candidate.

    It wasn’t too many years ago when there were Democrats acting and talking exactly the way you are right now. Hell, some are STILL talking like that. Instead of giving up, GET INVOLVED.

    All of you should be doing that, if you want some change in your party. GET INVOLVED. Be a driver, not a passenger. You have four years — two if you hope to start changing the national government. Sitting here typing out your disgust on a website isn’t getting you anywhere — it’s just pissing yourself off because you are letting other people control your lives.
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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Ok, I talked to Rogue. He said that anyone who wants to can come on down. That is if you have the funds for the move. We can empty out the spare bedroom, and if need be pitch tents. If your really wanting to do this, hit one of the admins for his or my e-mail addy and we talk turkey.

  74. 74
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    So the fight goes on.

    We fight until we can no longer fight. Because we’re dead.

    But we’re not dead.

    So fight it is.

    Ahh, but therein is the rub. How do you/we define “fight”? Nathan Bedford Forrest’s definition: “Fighting means killing,” or the politicians’ definition: “I’ll go out there and argue a little bit for a position, so long as others pay me to do so,” or something in between?

  75. 75
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan @ #:

    “And now I’m sure there ain’t enough of us to stand up and fight it.”

    It doesn’t really take that many people to break a government’s will – a small group can do it if sufficiently committed and sufficiently ruthless. Of course, the Right has long been afflicted with terminal vaginitis, but who knows….

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    DJ Allyn says:

    Ah, always the excuse to fall back on the day following an election loss. And yes, it would be comical if it were actually true.

    come on man, you’d be claiming fraud too if the result were the opposite….you already alluded to it a couple of time in the run up to the election

    Orion says:

    I think I’ll take my United States flag down and put it somewhere safe, like the POWs in Hanoi did. Someplace where I can treasure it as a memory of where I used to live, a memory of a land of free men. And then I’ll put up the flag for the nation I live in now – the USSR.

    I’ll continue to fly my flag proud…..and defiantly

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    I’ll continue to fly my flag proud…..and defiantly

    You and I both brother.

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    LCSgtmech growls and barks:

    Hey y’all,

    I know I don’t post here a lot, and my words don’t carry a fraction of the weight of most of you. I’d like to say however, that in my opinion, this NEEDED to happen. These government programmed fucktards need a dose of the very medicine they’ve been asking for. Only seeing their vision in action will they finally realize why the rest of the world has decided socialism isn’t so good after all. Once the money runs out, the healthcare slips back to leeches and chicken feet and they’re being TOLD where to live and work, methinks they’ll begin to wistfully remember what it was like to be truly free. But as long as all the crap they want remains just out of reach, they’re like dogs in a meat window, drooling and single minded… My two cents. Thanks for the opportunity.

  79. 79
    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    come on man, you’d be claiming fraud too if the result were the opposite….you already alluded to it a couple of time in the run up to the election

    I was actually referring to election fraud, not voter fraud. Two distinct differences. The former happens more often than not, and is institutional, the later is rare and not too much of a problem.

    What is the difference? Well, for voter fraud, it is perpetrated by individuals, and usually consists of an ex-felon that doesn’t know he or she isn’t allowed to vote in certain jurisdictions (there are a growing number of states that now allow for ex-felons who have completed all sentence requirements to vote) Another example is of “dead people” who have been found to have voted — but they usually tend to be spouses turning in absentee ballots of their recently departed spouses. Or, like in the case of my mother, who just died about three days after mailing in her ballot. The amount of this kind of “fraud” is such a small number as to not even be an issue. It usually does not involve a person voting multiple times.

    Election fraud, like I said, is more institutional, and is usually perpetrated by political groups or even election officials. There have been a lot of suspected electronic voting machine tampering tabulation tampering, or faulty calibrated touch screens where you pick one candidate and it records for another. It has been widely demonstrated that the GEMS tabulators can have their data flipped by manipulating data files and there is no way to record it ever happening. Has it ever been used to change an election? who knows? We have a Supreme Court that has said that voting is not a right, and whoever is running the elections is under no obligation to be open and transparent about the operations.

    From the looks of it, the election pretty much followed the majority of polls (save Gallup and Rassmussen) The predictions have been pretty consistent with data collected over the past several months, and the end result seems to match those predictions.

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    I’ll continue to fly my flag proud…..and defiantly

    And so you should. This election isn’t the end of the world, nor is the apocalypse right around the corner. You got up today much like you have every other day, and you will continue to do so for the next four years with any luck. Maybe in four years you will be waking up to President Christie, President Hillary, or someone you have yet to consider for President. That is the beauty of our system — politicians come, politicians go. Even their policies change.

    LCSgtmech says:

    I know I don’t post here a lot, and my words don’t carry a fraction of the weight of most of you.

    Your words carry just as much weight as the next person here.even if I am under no obligation to agree with you.
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    Orion growls and barks:

    Um, DJ, This isn’t a ‘morning after’ thing. I’ve been claiming the elections were frauds since 2008 and warning that we’d see unprecedented levels of fraud this election for so long everyone here told me to shut the fuck up because I was an Eeyore and wrong and just foolish.

    I’m not Eeyore. I’m Cassandra.

    Orion

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    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    Orion says:

    Um, DJ, This isn’t a ‘morning after’ thing. I’ve been claiming the elections were frauds since 2008 and warning that we’d see unprecedented levels of fraud this election for so long everyone here told me to shut the fuck up because I was an Eeyore and wrong and just foolish.

    Only since 2008? I was complaining about them in 2000 and 2004. The reaction here? Well, you can guess.

    I spend a lot of time on Bradblog mostly doing what I used to do here — technical stuff. For this election cycle, he has been trying to point out the possible irregularities and people on the Left AND Right have pretty much told him to shut up and sit down. Why? Because nobody wants people to get the idea that our voting system is hopelessly broken because they wouldn’t bother voting. Republicans don’t have a problem with less people voting — as Paul Weyrich once said, Republican chances of winning “quite candidly go up as the voting population goes down”. That is why all of the voter suppression laws.

    We DO have a broken voting system in this country. For such a model of democracy in the world, WE seem to be the only ones having serious problems with voting. Whether we be Right, Left or somewhere in between, if there is ANYTHING that can unite us — it is getting together and FIXING our voting system.
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    Draven32 growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    We DO have a broken voting system in this country. For such a model of democracy in the world, WE seem to be the only ones having serious problems with voting. Whether we be Right, Left or somewhere in between, if there is ANYTHING that can unite us — it is getting together and FIXING our voting system.

    Have to disagree on this one. I think anyone else is just better at covering up any ‘irregularities’.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    The Imperial Contradictin’ Disc Jockey proclaimed:

    Like I said way back then, the RNC had no intention of winning this time around. Mittens was a “placeholder” — they had to run someone. So they picked someone who was sure to lose without trying to make it obvious.

    You did make similar claims, but that doesn’t demonstrate you were necessarily right all along–or that the party elite are the genius planners you seem to imagine–or even that Romney “was sure to lose.”

    It is naive to think that we are going to fix our way out of this in two or four years.

    Whoever thought so here?

    Our government is no where near as corrupt as it was during the Gilded Age.

    You’ve been talking to some Gilded Agers?

    As unpopular as the TARP and Stimulus spending was, it did keep us from falling into another Great Depression.

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc. It’s never been demonstrated.

    Frankly, aside from his hallowed name, Ronald Reagan would never have gotten the nomination this last time around. He would have been considered to be “too liberal”. And Lincoln, the father of the Republican Party? I hate to break it to you, but today’s Republican Party is a mirror image to the Republican Party back then. Hell, today’s Republican Party isn’t even the same as it was during Reagan’s time. It has drifted off so far to the Right that unless it gets pulled back, it will probably disappear in the next ten years.

    There was no chance of RR’s or Father Abe’s being nominated, & (as you’d say yourself) you know it. Running a McCrank & the Rominator hardly shows Rightward drift. But the prevailing opinion on this blog, I’m sure, favors the GOP’s disappearing!

    Republicans don’t have a problem with less people voting — as Paul Weyrich once said, Republican chances of winning “quite candidly go up as the voting population goes down”. That is why all of the voter suppression laws.

    What “voter suppression laws?”

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    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    LC Xystus says:

    You did make similar claims, but that doesn’t demonstrate you were necessarily right all along–or that the party elite are the genius planners you seem to imagine–or even that Romney “was sure to lose.”

    And yet, Romney allowed himself to be defined all summer long without any real defense, offered no specifics other than to say he had some “plan” to fix all of our problems, offered diametrically opposed positions on virtually every issue, and lost spectacularly on Tuesday.

    You have to admit, if someone were to have told you two years ago that Mitt Romney would win the nomination to be president, you would have called them crazy.

    Oh wait… hmmm, been there, done that.

    Look, I might completely disagree with most of the current Republican platform, but I do know that their strategists are — and have been — playing a very long game. They tend to look further than the next election — they are working with an eye ten to twelve years out. Like I said earlier, they plant their seeds in local soil by filling up the local governments and letting the best climb up.

    You and I both know that our current economic situation didn’t start with Obama, nor did it really start with Bush — that it goes back several decades and it is not isolated to just the USA. I don’t care who you put into the Executive and Legislative branches over the next four to six years, we are still going to be in for a very rocky ride. Whoever those people are, they are not going to be all that popular.

    I wouldn’t have lost any sleep if Romney had been elected. He certainly wasn’t going to make things any better for the most of us — but then he isn’t going to be hurting much either.

    I was more concerned about the Supreme Court. There is sure to be at least two, and possibly four vacancies on the Court over the next four years. Since I believe the current majority is probably the most corrupt in modern history, I feel that the most important issue facing us is the makeup of an unelected government body that is accountable to nobody.

    LC Xystus says:

    Whoever thought so here?

    You can ask that with a straight face?

    Look, virtually every one of you guys have been blaming Obama for this economy. You act as if 2007 – January 22, 2009 never happened, and that Obama inherited the most stable and robust economy in history. I keep hearing the Right wing refrain, “Gas prices have doubled since Obama came into office.” What is NOT being said is the REASON why gas was so cheap in January 2009. Speculators had no fucking money. A lot of people had already lost their jobs so they weren’t buying as much fuel. Taking speculators out of the equation and lowering demand for fuel equals low gas prices. This isn’t rocket science.

    People here haven’t been willing to give time to try and straighten out this economic mess — even though we HAVE been making steady progress for about three years now. You bitch because it isn’t going fast enough. You bitch because projections haven’t been quite been realized yet. Of course if Obama had even the minimal amount of help from the Congressional Republicans, we’d be in much better shape now. Perhaps now that Obama is a second-term president, the Republican leadership will finally get busy and find some common ground for a solution. (of course I am not holding my breath)

    LC Xystus says:

    You’ve been talking to some Gilded Agers?

    Don’t be silly. I have done a LOT of reading about it. I went to school back in the day when we were actually taught history, unlike school since the 1980s that hasn’t been teaching much of anything but how to pass a standardized test.

    I don’t bother to read much of the books written recently about those times — most are slanted in such a way as to rewrite history. Instead, I tend to look for the books written at the time or shortly thereafter by people who actually lived through those times.

    LC Xystus says:

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc. It’s never been demonstrated.

    It was demonstrated quite spectacularly during the first Great Depression. What do you suppose the end result would have been if we had let the banks fail, and along with it all of the businesses that rely on their day-to-day operations by the funds supplied to them by said banks? Did you think that there was enough money in the federal coffers to pay out the guarantees on deposits? Do you think that it would have only effected the US?

    Why is it that that Conservatives don’t seem to have the ability to think things out to their end possibilities? You guys tend to think in the NOW, and oftentimes ignore the past.

    We were sure as shitting heading towards another depression — which is what a recession turns into if not checked. We are probably heading back in that direction again unless we do something.
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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Why is it that that Conservatives don’t seem to have the ability to think things out to their end possibilities? You guys tend to think in the NOW, and oftentimes ignore the past.

    OMG! Are you serious? Conservatives don’t think things out??? LOL It’s the liberals who do things like force us all to use the squiggly light bulbs, without ANY consideration that the normal person WON’T take them to a recycling plant (if such animals even exist). Instead, they will toss them in the landfill, where they will break, and mercury will leach into the soil, contaminating ground water. Nice job, libs.

    It’s the libs who want to eliminate all plastic bags from everywhere, never realizing the hardship it can create for people who can’t afford to buy “eco” bags. Nice jobs, Libs.

    My favorite, however…electric cars!!! The libbies all want us to ride around in death traps. Electric cars need….*gasp* batteries, which must be charged at stations using…electricity. Electricity comes from coal, which fuels power plants in places, and you libbies want to bankrupt the coal companies. So while you are bankrupting the coal companies, and utility rates are rising, people can’t afford to drive anymore. Nice job, Libs!

    They’re called unintended consequences. You might want to look the term up.
    You are so pathetic some days, Dave.

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    nor is the apocalypse right around the corner.

    Well, it is only alittle over a month til the Mayan calender ends…. :em05:

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    You act as if 2007 – January 22, 2009 never happened, and that Obama inherited the most stable and robust economy in history. I keep hearing the Right wing

    Umm DJ? Who controlled both the house and senate those years?
    DJ Allyn says:

    It was demonstrated quite spectacularly during the first Great Depression

    Are you talking about this depression

  88. 88
    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    I meant this one

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Thus spake the Great Contradictor:

    You have to admit, if someone were to have told you two years ago that Mitt Romney would win the nomination to be president, you would have called them crazy.

    I need admit no such thing. It’s not demonstrable anyway.

    You bitch because it isn’t going fast enough. You bitch because projections haven’t been quite been realized yet.

    No, we bitch because the Obeyme administration takes measures which seem–and perhaps are–calculated to worsen the situation!

    I went to school back in the day when we were actually taught history,… I tend to look for the books written at the time or shortly thereafter by people who actually lived through those times.

    I remember 1970s high-school history too. The Grant administration was labeled “the nadir of national disgrace”–but that was well over a century ago, plenty of time to be eclipsed. One might wonder whether those contemporary authors would’ve said if they’d been able to compare their era with later times.

    It was demonstrated quite spectacularly during the first Great Depression. What do you suppose the end result would have been if we had let the banks fail…

    What’s the expression: “I don’t deal in hypotheticals/counterfactuals?” It only happened one way–in our universe at least. I haven’t been moved to study these Bad Old Days, but the current opinion seems to be that gov’t meddling prolonged the Depression.

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R.:

    OMG! Are you serious? Conservatives don’t think things out??? LOL

    Conservatives like to think. Liberals prefer to feel.

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    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut growls and barks:

    LC Xystus says:

    but the current opinion seems to be that gov’t meddling prolonged the Depression.

    See my link above

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    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    OMG! Are you serious? Conservatives don’t think things out???

    That is exactly what I said, and is evident in the positions you take up. Many people here just robotically spout out pre-programmed responses and never once considers the possible consequences down the road. You only look at the one consequence you would HOPE to see, and not any of the other possible and/or likely consequences.

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    LOL It’s the liberals who do things like force us all to use the squiggly light bulbs, without ANY consideration that the normal person WON’T take them to a recycling plant (if such animals even exist). Instead, they will toss them in the landfill, where they will break, and mercury will leach into the soil, contaminating ground water. Nice job, libs.

    Which is why they have recycling bins for the garbage trucks to pick up. Companies like Waste Management have been known to refuse to take your garbage if it finds recyclable items in it.

    Now I am not a fan of the CF light bulb — and you are right, there wasn’t much thinking things out going on there. It makes the assumption that people are going to do the right thing and recycle these things and about half don’t. I figure that within five years, CF will be obsolete because LED will become FAR more reliable and inexpensive. I am using LED right now in my office here and it’s great. The bulbs last a LOT longer and don’t consume as much power. The initial cost of the bulb is a sticker shock, but that price has been coming down as more people start shifting towards LED.

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    My favorite, however…electric cars!!! The libbies all want us to ride around in death traps. Electric cars need….*gasp* batteries, which must be charged at stations using…electricity. Electricity comes from coal, which fuels power plants in places, and you libbies want to bankrupt the coal companies. So while you are bankrupting the coal companies, and utility rates are rising, people can’t afford to drive anymore. Nice job, Libs!

    My wife recently bought a Nissan Leaf and she LOVES it. Our “charging station” is in the garage and she plugs it in when she gets home. Her work has a couple of charging stations, but she has never had a need to use them. I’ve taken it to work myself every now and then and it drives and handles like any other vehicle. In fact, if one passed you on the freeway (and they do have quite the substantial power) most people would never know it was electric.

    Of course, if you live out in bumfuck Egypt or you drive a lot, it probably isn’t the car for you. They do have hybrids that work just as well.

    I know that Rush loves to talk shit about electric cars, but you can bet that whatever he says is being pulled entirely out of his ample ass, since I am sure that he has never EVER been even close to looking at one. So by extension, if you are believing his hype, then YOU have never bothered to look at one and instead just parrot the bile that Rush and his copycats shovel out.

    Are these cars expensive? Sure, but the price has been coming down as production goes up. More and more people ARE buying them, and supply and demand — the manufacturers will produce more. Nissan is supposed to be opening a plant here in the US this year to build more — so obviously things are picking up.

    The technology is getting better also.

    Not ALL electricity comes from coal, and it would be nice if even LESS electricity came from coal. Forget the climate argument — I am talking strictly from a HEALTH and POLLUTION standpoint. Every time I hear Obama and others talk about “clean” coal, I want to bitch slap him. There is no such thing. Coal is dirty. Burning coal is dirty. The process of scrubbing emissions is dirty. Unfortunately it is part of what we have available right now. We are working on changing that, which should be a GOOD thing. Well, at least it should be a GOOD thing for most people — some people want to be truculent and resist change even if they don’t have any real reason (or understanding) not to change except some political party or some bloviating ignoramus on the radio told you it was “bad”.

    As far as having to rely on the grid for charging your electric vehicle, you can bet that it will soon be possible to use solar power to charge your electric vehicle in your garage. The charging stations at my wife’s work use solar arrays with a power backup. But we don’t feel guilty using our power in our garage since our power comes from hydroelectric dams.

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    You are so pathetic some days, Dave.

    No, you just don’t THINK.

    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    Umm DJ? Who controlled both the house and senate those years?

    Math isn’t a strong suit of yours, is it? Apparently neither is logic. Let’s see if you can at least follow along here:

    In NOVEMBER of 2006, Democrats won control of both houses of Congress.

    IN JANUARY of 2007 Democrats actually took control of both houses.

    With me so far?

    The economy started to tank in 2006 — long before the Democrats were even elected, and BECAUSE of policies that Republicans had put in place for all the years prior. Most people didn’t start noticing until the last quarter of 2007.

    Any economist will tell you that it takes at least four years for actions to manifest themselves in our economy — nothing is immediate. You would have to suspend all laws of gravity, logic, physics, etc to believe that a Democratic Congress, in less than a year with a Republican president using a record number of signing statements, could have caused a complete meltdown of our economy in the way we saw.

    LC Ohio Right Wing Nut says:

    Are you talking about this depression

    We didn’t quite reach a “depression” this time around. We came close, and if it hadn’t been for a lot of spending, we would have been there. And if GM and Chrysler hadn’t gotten government loans to see them through restructuring, your state would be a ghost town right now, because there was no private money available at the time.

    LC Xystus says:

    I need admit no such thing. It’s not demonstrable anyway.

    No, you don’t “need” to do anything. But it IS quite demonstrable simply by going back in the archives of this site and read what people have written here about Mittens in the past.

    This is a lot like Karl Rove’s first reaction almost two years ago when he said that Obama would win the election if Romney became the nominee. NOW he acts like he never said nothing of the sort.

    LC Xystus says:

    No, we bitch because the Obeyme administration takes measures which seem–and perhaps are–calculated to worsen the situation!

    He really hasn’t been able to do much of anything — since it is CONGRESS that makes those decisions.

    This is like arguing with cartoons.
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