I’m Fucking Livid

If you take a look around the intertubes or on TV right now (2118 CT) you’ll be hard pressed to find any breaking information about the ongoing disaster in Benghazi. The latest information is that CIA Director Gen. Petraeus has categorically denied that no such order to ‘stand down’ during the attack originated from any level at CIA. There’s blood on Ogabe’s hands and we’re witnessing one of the biggest cover-ups in history thanks to the MSM. What we’ve learned today alone is that the Benghazi Consulate was in communications with higher-up and repeatedly asked for support. Ty Woods was actually on the roof of one of the building painting the mortar crew with a laser-designator. The entire attack could have been stopped by releasing one fucking AC-130 Spectre (and they were available) as well as fighter aircraft with the appropriate weps pods to attack the position. Various elements of the US military were available within an hour to support those under attack, but they were not released, instead told to stand down. A drone was overhead and real-time video was available of the attack in it’s entirety. Keep in mind this attack lasted for about 7 hours. Sec Def Panetta’s lame statement about needing more information to release assets is entirely bullshit. We had comms with the Consulate Annex clearly stating they were under attack, what in the name of Satan’s Cock more information is needed here? The answer is NONE. This story is still unfolding, but it’s obvious to me that the Commander-in-Chief was fully aware of what was going down and refused to support Americans under attack. He let them die by a conscious decision. If we had no other information about what Obama is capable of, this alone is all we need. The man has no qualms whatsoever about sacrificing anyone or anything that stands in his way to retaining and expanding his power. The American people have been given one excuse after another, all fabrications about who knew what, when and what was (or not) done about it. The administration is desperately trying to throw everyone under the bus and the folks involved have decided that they aren’t taking the fall. I fully expect in the next few days we’ll have more whistle-blowers coming forward with details. I’m not buying any bullshit about the military higher-higher recommending against sending in support. In D.C. one can always find fucking political flag-officer ass-kissers that will back the play by the C-in-C for their own advancement. This dance of lies has been going on for weeks now and it’s insane. Sec. Clinton on the tarmac at Andrews AFB told the grieving families of the those heroes that they would find and arrest the producer of the video that caused this. I can’t fathom telling families in this situation something that I knew was a total lie. There’s some insight for those demonrats that are waiting desperately for a Hillary presidency.

The brave Senate today announced they would conduct an investigation beginning five days after the election. I think we have enough information and the question is where are the Articles of Impeachment right now? Contrast the gravity of this situation to the Nixon administration. The government almost collapsed and president resigned over a simple burglary, here we have a situation where four Americans were murdered and our sovereign soil invaded by enemy forces and the Commander-in-Chief through inaction or incompetency took no action to protect citizens in mortal danger. Why are we not hearing impeachment being mentioned? The weeping pussy John Boehner has this right in his lap and what is he doing? He’s helping the MSM actively burying this story by his silence. The American people are being actively denied information about the operation of their government and mind-set of the administration. Obama was asked in Denver today twice and he ducked the question entirely. Brian Williams of NBC had a perfect chance to ask the question of Ogabe over the weekend and took a pass, accepting the same bullshit that he’s been putting out for weeks now. The administration is trying it’s best to keep a lid on this, hoping the American people won’t care enough to raise hell until after the election. Their strategy is obvious, deny, lie, throw someone else under the bus, but protect the president at all costs. As we’ve consistently seen in this administration the means don’t count for shit, the end game is it all period.

Yes, I’m fucking livid and we all should be. This story has to get out, we need to push it until the MSM can’t continue to bury it under stories about hurricanes and baseball.

-Carry On

47 comments

  1. 1
    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Updated with APC’s, a Spectre, maybe a F-18 and such, but this is how it should have been handled:

    http://youtu.be/XABJqzYNnNg

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Unless it is a declared “jihadi” one mu*slim is not allowed to kill another.
    And don’t anyone try to hand me the bullshit lie that he is a Christian. No Christian can say, “My mu*lim faith.” as he did in Cairo. At the end of the same speech he said in arabic, “I am one of you.”. That part never was in the official press release.

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. @ #:
    Damn straight!

  4. 4
    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    I believe President Romney will want to get to the bottom of this matter. Anyone else happen to see the video from earlier this week where he told a crowd that he had once met and had dinner with Glen Doherty, one of the two ex-SEALs killed?

    Here are a few more details on what happened to those SEALs on that fateful day.

    This cannot be allowed to go away.

  5. 5
    LC George, Apocryphal Prophet growls and barks:

    Obama’s inner circle has an insufficient number of degrees of separation from KGB moles.

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    736 Bubblehead growls and barks:

    All I can say is Un-fuckin-believable. This son of a bitch needs to go NOW!

  7. 7

    I’m waiting for Hillary to go full bore Amazon Bitch on his ass. She tried to take the blame once, but only to make him feel like a pussy for letting a woman show more balls than he did. She’s not going to go down with this leaky ship.
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    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    I would love to know what the Fweench and Huns are saying as we march by.

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    LC thecabal growls and barks:

    Pardon my ignorance, since I’ve never served, but I know that many or most of you probably have. If Woods was painting the mortar crew with the laser, doesn’t that suggest that the AC-130 was on-station, or at least maybe en route? I have heard that the enemy has learned how to detect our target designators using a normal cellphone camera (I’m guessing because the laser is IR, right?). That suggests to me that it wouldn’t be too beneficial to sit there with the laser on the target unless you thought it would probably be killed in short order.

    Regardless, this thing is a clusterfuck of the highest magnitude, which in a sane country would end with certain people at the top of the command chains swinging from a gibbet. God bless those men who sacrificed their lives, painful as it is that the National Command Authority sentenced them to a needless death. At least they died with honor, entirely unlike the utter shitheads occupying Capital City.

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    rickn8or growls and barks:

    I think 0beauzo’s about to find out the CIA won’t fit under the bus…

    Some rumblings about weapons being funneled to Syrian rebels who might be (surprise!) al qaeda and the Ambassador was familiar with the situation. Love to know what was the subject of the meeting with the Turkish rep that was held just before the attack started.

    “Not personally aware of security requests” my ass.

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    SoCalOilMan, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    LC thecabal @ #:9

    I’ve not served either, but I would be able to guess that word was sent he knew where the mortars were and could target them, and yet nothing was done. One Spectre could have saved lives. Putting forces into the fail-safe limit would have saved lives, but the administration decided to just sit and see if it would go away.

  12. 12
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Honey, if you think you’re livid now, you’ll REALLY go ABLE SUGAR over this: posted at Ace’s Place. I happened to hear this Lt. Col. call in live, as I had Rush on the radio, and I was enraged.

    Rush has an interview with a Special Operations planner [a Lieutenant Colonel who called in to the show this afternoon] who says that in an in extremis situation, as the attack on Libya was, the good guys would not have needed an explicit order to protect US personnel. Their standing general orders to protect US citizens and personnel would have already enabled them to act, absent a contrary order.

    Only a negative order would have stopped them.

    The Rush interview is well worth listening to. The guy calling in is obviously what he claims to be (unless he’s some kind of virtuoso faker who can fluently explain details of Special Operations planning and protocols).

    http://minx.cc/?post=334282

    Click the link and scroll down to where you see Rush Limbaugh in his office to play the interview (I can’t give you a more direct link, as I’m not a member of the Dittohead Nation! but I did hear this guy live this afternoon, and my hair was standing on end). Listen to the whole thing.

    Ambassador = Four-Star Equivalent Asset. Attack on any ambassador goes via Flash Traffic Message system, straight to the Officer of the Watch in the White House Situation Room. Also, planes are always kept “strip-ready” and can be airborne in 5 minutes in an emergency. And there’s more: listen to the whole thing.

    More and more people, CIA and military and State Dept., have been coming forward to point the Death Bone at Obama. And General Petraeus said just today that NO ONE at CIA gave the order to stand down (therefore, it HAD to come from the Whut House.)

    Wait ’til you hear what the Lt. Col. said happened at 5 pm, EST, in Washington that day.

    Watergate, BTW, was a bullshit witch hunt by the Leftwads. Nixon had nothing to do with the burglary, and only tried afterwards to deflect the lynch mob (read It Didn’t Start with Watergate, by Victor Lassky: the Demonrats are EVEN WORSE THAN YOU THINK, Rotties. When you read about the flagrantly outrageously illegal banana republic bullshit pulled by all the Demfuck presidents from FDR through Johnson, well. . . .you’ll see we’ve been on this track with the Left for a loooooong time.) Things like LBJ calling the president of the NBC network and saying “I’m gonna cut your balls off”; things like FDR siccing the IRS AND the FBI on Republicans — which all the Demonrat presidents have done, up through Johnson at least (Lassky’s book was published in 1976 or so). MASSIVE voter fraud in election after election. OPEN ties with the Communists going back to the earliest years of the 20th Century.

    These motherfuckers have been on a war footing with America from jump; way past time for us to saddle up.

    BTW, Nightline on ABC ran an inflammatory piece tonight on the KKK, which they’re painting as a “resurgent threat” (we’re of course meant to quail in fear at the sight of the old “White Shame Whip!”; they even ran the ancient Civil Rights era footage of dogs and hoses.) The poor fools who let these bastards film them were very few in number and obviously poorly educated: poor whites who’ve been royally screwed by the Affirmative Action Nation. Yeah, some threat.

  13. 13
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    In other words, POTUS didn’t FAIL to act — HE STOPPED OUR MEN FROM SAVING OUR PEOPLE.

    This is an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

    FREE NAKOULA!

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    LC thecabal growls and barks:

    Thanks Tallulah, that was an excellent recap. I’ll get over to AoS and listen to that clip. I know, everyone hates a conspiracy theory. But explain to me, if all of these reports turn out to be true, how this is anything other than CinC sacrificing the ambassador for some yet-unknown reason?

    Who was it that said that Caesar shouldn’t fuck with the Praetorian Guard? Obama may have just thrown enough people under the bus that some very competent “operators” might decide to get a bit of revenge (in the form of nasty information dripping out every day until the election).

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    Boryon growls and barks:

    @LC thecabal#14:

    As the Diplomad predicted, if you fuck with the bureaucrats, they won’t go quietly. I guess we’re still in relatively early days of the leaks.

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    JakeTheSnake growls and barks:

    I don’t think they’ll be able to run out the clock. As infuriated as I am about the deaths of the American heroes, I’m somewhat heartened to think that their deaths could be the catalyst that brought about the demise of this traitorous fuck.

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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Well, if there isn’t a rule of laws, but of men, then we don’t have to follow them either, right?

    Someone say: One-two-three-GO!!

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    I see no sense in again “venting my spleen”. It is painfully evident what is required to straighten this mess out and it is not the upcoming election.

    All I need given me is the assembly location and (besides the obvious) what to bring.
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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    And despite all of that, there will STILL be those who think he’s the absolutely coolest cat to ever walk the planet, that he’s SOOOO eminently qualified (as opposed to, say, John McCain or Sarah Palin). They want their free stuff, they want to stick it to the man, they want to soak the rich. I’m sure it will be, “well, if Bush hadn’t done thus and so, etc…”

    This may be one reason for the excessive push towards early voting (some places had it 2 months out, iirc). Those who have voted for Zero early cannot change their votes regardless of what happens now. They are stuck. I hope their consciences let them sleep at night.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Lessee, we took a guy with NO leadership experience, NO economic experience, NO managerial experience, NO military experience, NO financial experience, NO executive experience, and NO business experience and made him CEO of the greatest and most powerful country on the planet.

    Is there any Fortune 500 company that would pull such a bone-headed stunt?

    Right. Hey, fiddy-twoers, how’d that work out?

  21. 21
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    This entire administration deserves the Mussolini treatment.

    …and the entire lot of the enabling media.

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    themandownthehall growls and barks:

    It’s all over Facebook. It is spreading and has 10 days to fester. It will get out. Plus the father of Tyrone is doing shows this weekend. It’s going to get out.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC thecabal says:

    Pardon my ignorance, since I’ve never served, but I know that many or most of you probably have. If Woods was painting the mortar crew with the laser, doesn’t that suggest that the AC-130 was on-station, or at least maybe en route? I have heard that the enemy has learned how to detect our target designators using a normal cellphone camera (I’m guessing because the laser is IR, right?). That suggests to me that it wouldn’t be too beneficial to sit there with the laser on the target unless you thought it would probably be killed in short order.

    Unless doctrine in this nation is vastly different from what I’ve learned, you’re absolutely right on the money.

    We know we had two Spectres and a drone in Libya, so did our people in Benghazi. Nobody with half a brain would light up a laser designator and start playing “tease the kitty” in the hopes that somebody, somewhere, might decide to pop by with a weapons platform at some point before the target either moved or found out it was being painted (the latter would also tell the target where the “painter” was. If you can detect the beam, you can tell where it came from).

    Again, I obviously don’t know what doctrine is for this country, so maybe it’s different, but I’ve never been taught that it is OK to start painting until you have a strike package in position or just about to be in position.

    Which brings us back to “we had the assets, but somebody in the Chain of Command nixed it and let our people die.”

    And now we know that “somebody” wasn’t the CIA. Which leaves… You do the math.

    Fucking livid doesn’t even begin to describe it.
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    I’m finding this an awful lot of places on the net, and I’ve left roughly the same comment to the suggestions it needs to step down. It does not need to step down, it needs to be dragged out feet first for prosecution to the fullest extent of the law. And the appropriate sentence passed down. And immediately enforced.
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: “No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”
    Barack Obama

    So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

    It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

  26. 26
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Four Brave Americans are DEAD

    and the Muslim in the White House is ALIVE

  27. 27
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    New Intel – this was a seriously botched operation.

    Ambassador Stevens was to be taken hostage, not killed

    To be traded for the Blind Sheik. Obama’s people worked this out in order to mollify the Muslim Brotherhood’s demand for the sheik’s return. A hostage trade would be cover.

    Instead, the jihadists killed Stevens.

    This is why everyone was told to “stand down! “stand down!” The station personnel were not be rescued until Obama could step in and make the trade.

    Now they have to cover it up. Political suicide if this truth gets out

    Source – THE CENTER FOR WESTERN JOURNALISM

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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    Give this a couple more days to brew. While the MSM back in the day could change hearts and minds in 45 minutes, it takes the blogosphere and Facebook a few days to make the same impact. 10 days before a national election is an eternity. Remember, politicians are for the most part cowards so the Senate saying they won’t investigate means they haven’t heard enough from their constituents to warrant putting their neck out on the line against the sitting POTUS. If enough people melted their phones, they would feel a whole lot safer helping put the gallows together needed to issue justice to our traitor in chief.
    I would think by Wednesday (thereabouts), this will have fully woven into the fabric of people’s consciousness. By next weekend, it will probably full on panic in the White House as elected officials become more emboldened to attack this now politically wounded President.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Richard Nixon did the honorable thing and resigned over Watergate……an incident in which no one died. The Benghazi debacle is far worse, perhaps the worst scandal in U.S. Presidential history, IMO. 0bama literally watched while our diplomats were being murdered. Is he the Commander in Chief, or isn’t he? It’s one or the other. Considering what we now know, impeachment would be too lenient.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    The Muslim in the WH has sent a clear message to the people working for the State Department in the Middle East that he will do nothing if they are attacked. He has told them by his actions that they will be on their own if attacked.

    The other side of the coin is that he has clearly told Al Qaeda they have a free platform to attack Americans and the response will be a strongly worded warning to the Americans to take no action. He has given Al Qaeda an invitation to openly attack with no expectation of defense.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Juan “Enemy Ace” McVain said that the Senate (fine patriots, all) all of the units that could, in theory, have responded, were in a state of insufficient readiness.

    Hey, John – you already lost to Obama. You don’t have to carry his water any longer.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC LOBO @ #:

    Unless it is a declared “jihadi” one mu*slim is not allowed to kill another.

    ‘Course, that rule is observed primarily in the breach.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    While visibly moved by the bravery and disturbed over the allegations that Americans were left to fend for themselves in Benghazi,Glenn Beck noted that the entire incident is “a game-changer.”

    Below, read one of the most powerful portions of Beck’s monologue:

    “How can a president ?? I don’t even ?? I don’t even understand somebody like this. You have ?? you’ve hired that ambassador. You’ve hired him. This is a guy you chose. You said. Chris Stevens. You go in there. The CIA guys he didn’t know. But the ambassador he did know. You go in. The guy begs you for weeks, ‘Please, please, something’s going on. Please, they’re targeting me.’ You don’t do anything then when it’s targeted ?? because maybe you’re so arrogant you say, ‘You know what? Nothing’s going to happen. It’s September 11th. I’ve got it all under control.’

    And then when something happens and your military is there and you can do something to save the man that you pointed out and said, ‘You go in our name! You go stand there!’ and then he does nothing, I don’t understand it. I don’t understand it. That’s not America. That’s not who we are! That’s not the way we treat Americans! This is a voluntary system! This is something that we say, ‘I believe in it! I want to do it!’ You don’t just grab somebody up and throw them in a school and make them the ambassador from birth like in Communist countries. These are people who are volunteering!

    And the president is the last ?? the guy who says, ‘We’re not going to leave a single person behind.’ We won’t leave our people behind. My gosh. What have we turned into? If we don’t turn this corner, America, we will not ?? we will become a force, a global, terrifying force for evil. It’s not just our destruction. We’re talking about the destruction of our souls. You can’t be this kind of a person or a country. You can’t. We didn’t want to look at Ghost Planing and everything else. You’re talking about American citizens going in and saying, ‘We’re trying to do the right thing here.’ Can you imagine?

    Can you imagine being the guy who had the laser pointer and he’s like, ‘I’m just asking ?? I’m not asking you to send a troop in. I’m asking you to send ?? I’m going you to send one robotic plane in! One! And I can take them out and I’ll live and so will everybody else! I’m asking for one robotic plane!’ And you don’t send it? How these guys ?? what these guys, what these Navy SEALs had to be thinking in their own head, ‘What have I sacrificed for? What do we even mean?’ Wow. I’ve never seen anything like it. Today officially is the day that I no longer recognize my country.”

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    LC thecabal growls and barks:

    Ummmm…we seem to be getting into some serious palace intrigue now:

    Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group

    The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

    Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order

    I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.

    quote:
    “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”

    The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

    General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

    The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africon.

    I found this story when I got home after hearing this story.

    quote:
    President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    President George Bush would have known what to do.
    President Romney would have known too.
    Obama can recite a minute by minute replay of every NBA game.
    He goes into great detail about the skills of Tim Tebow and LeBron James.
    He appears every year on ESPN discussing at great length the pros and cons of
    over 60 college basketball teams.
    But, when it comes to the official duties of the POTUS and Commander in Chief ..
    he’s ahhhhh, uhhhhhh.. clueless.
    Obama sounded like he was the WH spokesman and not the president.
    General Petraeus issued a statement yesterday denying that the CIA had ever refused requests to help those trapped in the consulate.
    Congressman Chaffetz of Utah
    said he asked General Ham, Commander AFRICOM and he said something similar.
    Obama is the Commander in Chief.
    He and he alone ,
    refused to send military help to those Americans being slaughtered in Benghazi.
    The image of SEAL Tyrone Woods , wounded , under fire
    on the burning roof , lasing the target
    and expecting the
    cavalry to come to his aid ,
    as a cold blooded Obama gave the thumbs down -
    should haunt every American.
    It haunts and enrages me.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    FYI..in my Inbox today

    This is it, folks. Let’s finish strong.

    If we lose:

    - ObamaCare becomes permanent

    - The EPA will continue to regulate our economy into the gutter

    - Nancy Pelosi takes power again in Washington.

    We’re fighting in every corner of the country and it takes resources to do this.

    Let’s finish strong: Donate now and GOP Leadership will triple your gift!

    We need you: throw in $25.00 or $37.50 and let’s take our country back!

    Thank you very much. Please forward this to any friends or family who need to get involved.

    Guy

    Guy Harrison

    Executive Director, National Republican Congressional Committee

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    bruce growls and barks:

    val jarrett did this she is the cunt who actually runs the white house it was she who sent our seal team into kill benhiding instead of dropping a 2000lber on his head, she needlessly risked the seals lives and lost a top secret helicopter to the pakies and chicoms.she would not let the military recover the chopper or the top secret drone that went down in iran where jarrett was born to commie parents. bongo needs to be impeached and tried for treason along with most of the national socialist democrats.well i am off to send another e-mail to my congress critter telling him he is a traitor to west point and the constitution he hang his head andshould resign.i wonder if he will haul my ass to an institution like bongo did to that jar head?

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    LC FORGER - Monster Hunter growls and barks:

    Wanna go from livid to supra-luminal, heat of a hyper nova pissed off??

    Go to The Blaze, Glen Beck’s place, and check out Joey Plugs “Da’ Tard” Biden’s comment to MURDERED SEAL Tyrone Wood’s Dad…

    “Joe Biden to Father of Former Navy SEAL Killed in Benghazi: ‘Did Your Son Always Have Balls the Size of Cue Balls?’

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    In 1944, Hitler ordered the Wehrmacht to shoot all captured Allied parachutists. General Eisenhower countered by declaring that for every Allied parachutist executed, he would execute a German POW of equivalent rank, randomly selected from our POW cages. Later in Italy and the Balkans Allied guerrellas established a ten for one retaliatory ratio, which was affirmed after the end of hostilities. In their prisoner exchanges the Israelis sent a precedent by exchanging a thousand Muslim prisoners for a single Israeli. I suggest we should retaliate by executing the blind sheik and all the Guantanamo detainees. That would get some attention as well as solving other problems. If we need to replenish stocks for future retaliations, we could always arrest the members of CAIR and other residents from muslim lands who behave as hostile aliens. Don’t let this crisis go to waste.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Now put this growing scandal in North Africa, the purge of senior military commanders, the destroction of foreign serving military ballots, and the burgeoning voter fraud in various states, both by fiddling with the voting machines nad the bussing around of non-citizen Somalis in Ohio, and other methods elsewhere, including the new Moran video tape. :em03: Am I the only one who sees a coherent pattern? If it is impossible to hold an election, then the current regime must not be allowed to continue in unchecked power either. We approach our Allende moment., our Chavez moment. General Ham, if you cross the Rubicon, we will welcome you. :em01:

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    LC MaxMomFL growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    The image of SEAL Tyrone Woods , wounded , under fire
    on the burning roof , lasing the target
    and expecting the
    cavalry to come to his aid ,
    as a cold blooded Obama gave the thumbs down -
    should haunt every American.
    It haunts and enrages me.

    Me too. This sick feeling in my gut has been growing with each new revelation of the choices Obummer has made as POTUS and now with the details of the events in Benghazii. I have crossed a line with this story. No more benefit of the doubt. Not even a smidge. I no longer think of Zero as merely a well meaning but mal-educated, true believer of the teachings of communists and anti-white bigots who is in over his head, yet really trying to accomplish his idea of “good” with the miserable tools he thinks will work. I now know him to be intentionally working toward the complete and utter destruction of the USA for whatever reasons; Muslim sympathies, one-world socialist ideals or anti-America-as-he-sees-it bigotry or a combination of all three. Mostly, I now see him as really and truly evil.
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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Bruce (36), it’s WORSE than that: Valerie RASPUTIN Jarrett told Obama on THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS over a period of MONTHS when our men HAD BIN LADEN IN THEIR SIGHTS, that he should ORDER OUR MEN TO NOT TAKE BIN LADEN OUT.

    AND it was only when Panetta, the Joint Chiefs, and Clinton (fearing the outcry from actual AMERICANS when we heard the fuckwad in chief kept saving Bin Liner’s life) FINALLY went AROUND him, ordering our men into action in Pakistan, that the operation was commenced!!!!!!

    AND they only told the fuckwad in chief that it was IN PROGRESS, and our men were in PAKI AIR SPACE OVER THE TARGET, when they dragged his dingey ass off the GOLF COURSE and CARRIED him to the WH Situation Room to watch the MEN take out the ENEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They did not want to give the motherfucker another chance to save his ally.

    But the MOSLEM TRAITOR got his revenge, didn’t he???????? he had the Paki doctor who helped us BETRAYED TO THE ENEMY; the brave guy is now in a Paki hellish prison. AND did you notice that the men in SEAL TEAM SIX were ALSO killed after the TRAITOR LEAKED CLASSIFIED INFORMATION about their operations, when their chopper was shot down?????????

    By all means, MELT THOSE FUCKING PHONE LINES to the Congress: we do have a FEW good people down there.

    Ask them why, in God’s name, they haven’t outed this traitorous fuck. He has literally given AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY, and yet he has the fucking GALL to go around bragging that he “killed bin liner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  43. 43
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Obama says “No one’s coming,”
    We’re finally on our own.
    This summer I hear the drumming,
    Four dead in Libya!

    Gotta get down to it,
    Muslims are gunning us down,
    “Shoulda been done long ago.”
    What if you knew him and
    Found him dead on the ground?
    How can you run when you know?

    Obama says “No one’s coming,”
    We’re finally on our own.
    This summer I hear the drumming,
    Four dead in Libya!

    Four dead in Libya!
    Four dead in Libya!
    Four dead in Libya!

  44. 44
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Why did Obama choose to “stand down” in Benghazi?

    As John and Scott point out, the CIA has issued a statement making it clear that “no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need [in Benghazi]; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate.” That statement surely was issued with the approval, and presumably at the direction, of the CIA’s director, General Petraeus.

    Who, then, made the several decisions denying help to the Americans in Benghazi who needed it? Who, initially, told CIA to “stand down” in face of the attack? Who decided that American defense forces an hour or two away in Southern Europe would not be deployed?

    Bill Kristol argues that, at least with respect to not sending in the military, the decision must have been made by President Obama. Given what was at stake – the safety of Americans, including an ambassador, in the face of an attack by hostile forces – Kristol surely is right. It is inconceivable that none of the key actors — Secretary of Defense Panetta, Secretary of State Clinton, and General Petraeus — failed to present to Obama the decision of how to respond. And if Obama failed to make a decision, that would be more damning than making the wrong one.

    Kristol goes on to ask: “When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?”
    The key question is “why.”

    Leon Panetta has provided an answer. He says “the basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on, without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.” At one level, this answer doesn’t work. He and the others involved did know the essence of what was going on, and they did have real time information.

    At another level, Panetta’s statement provides a window into the thinking at the White House that day. Although the administration knew, in general, what was going on, there was much uncertainly in Benghazi. We didn’t know for sure what the outcome of the attack on our personnel would be; we didn’t know whether military forces, if deployed, would have succeeded in saving them; we didn’t know how many of our rescuers would have been killed; and we didn’t know (as far as I can tell) what Libya’s reaction to the use of large-scale use of American military force would be.

    Faced with uncertainty, Obama apparently opted for caution, hoping that somehow the CIA contingent from Tripoli, aided perhaps by Libyan forces, would save the situation.

    This is just the decision one would expect from Obama. By temperament, he is a non-interventionist and (except when pet domestic policies are in play) a non-risk taker. He was highly cognizant of the consequences of a failed U.S. military operation in Libya, including, I suspect, the electoral consequences in an election that he believed on September 11 he was winning fairly handily.

    Let’s also remember that, although Obama decided to approve the raid that killed bin Laden, his team apparently considered this (and his campaign has promoted it as) a difficult decision. Bill Clinton and Joe Biden praise Obama’s alleged courage on this occasion, pointing to the adverse consequences to Obama of a failed mission against bin Laden.

    If the decision to kill an unsuspecting and poorly defended bin Laden – America’s enemy number 1 for a decade – was difficult for the Obama administration to make, then the odds were always against a decision to fly our military blind into harm’s way in Benghazi in response to situation whose precise contours weren’t well known. Obama’s decision not to intervene was likely less about “the fog of war” than about fear of the fog of war.

    In hindsight, Obama made the wrong decision. The extent to which he should be criticized for the decision is difficult to assess because we don’t know all of the information he had at the time the decision had to be made. Perhaps the decision was a reasonable one to make at that time. But let’s keep in mind that our inability to assess this is due mainly to the administration’s unwillingness to speak about the decision and the surrounding events.

    Voters, then, must assess the administration’s handling of Benghazi with limited information. But we do know this: (1) the administration erred grievously by leaving open our mission in Benghazi while turning down requests for more security, (2) the administration made the wrong decision on the day of the attack by not bringing our military to bear, a decision consistent with Obama’s instincts, and (3) the administration has not been forthcoming or honest in its discussion of Benghazi after the fact.

    These facts, without more, present a serious indictment of Obama.

    h/t Powerline

  45. 45
    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    As you know, I’m a dedicated participant with Patriot Guard Riders as our Director of Colors. I never miss a funeral if I can help it. But …
    Thursday and Friday they buried George McGovern here in Sioux Falls. PGR was requested to mount flag line for his viewing and burial, because he was a B-17 pilot with 35 missions. Bill Clinton was scheduled to attend, and Joe Biden, and Tom Daschle. Probably other eminentoes as well, including maybe John Kerry. I don’t know who actually showed, because one person who did not appear was me. Ordinarily I would consider playing a meaningful roll in such an even to be a great homor. But not this time. I wrestled with it and prayed. And then I notified our ride captain that since I had been called a war criminal and a baby killer years ago by McGovern and his friends in attendance, it would be inappropriate fdor me to stand. And so I stayed home, to honor the 2.9 million who served and the 59 thousand who fell, and were scorned for doing so. Our PGR leaders have been understanding, bless them. I remain an unrepenant vet.
    In truth, McGovern was at one time a noble and heroic flier before he turned. Nobody has yet shown me anything noble, nay, even decent, about the current Imposter. Drag him out by his heels, crush him under the weight of our shields, and cast his body into hte Potomac. Then feed Mooch and evil Queen Valjar to the feral hogs.

  46. 46
    bruce growls and barks:

    i think we all agree that bongo and his hench men deserves a traitors reward!

  47. 47
    BigDogg growls and barks:

    Treason – plain and simple. Firing squad is too humane – too quick.