Fellow Countrymen: We Are Conservative, But We’re NOT Out to Drink the Blood of Your Children, Grandparents etc.

Just a bit more on the “47% Meme” that the Ogabe Steno Pool are pushing like it’s the most devastatingly important bit of news since the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor while studiously ignoring our murdered ambassadors in foreign lands as “it ain’t no thang” because, obviously, talking about that might hurt Teh Anointed One™.

There’s this established nonsense in the Narrative™ that conservatives, for some odd reason, steadfastly refuse to push back against in yet another example of the failed policy of trying to appease the Alinskyites in hopes that they’ll like us better that has worked out so well for our nation over the last, oh, four decades or so.

It is the “conservatives don’t give a shit about the poor, unemployed, less fortunate, old, sick, blah, blah, blech” propaganda that pounds across the airwaves all the time. It’s obviously the worst load of shit since Hitler dressed up a bunch of prisoner corpses in Polish uniforms and used that as an excuse to invade Poland, but for some reason conservative candidates always fail to point that out using simple common sense, thus allowing the Alinskyites to control the Narrative™, always playing defense and losing horribly as a result.

So allow us to explain just why it’s bullshit, using nothing but common sense, in case somebody who isn’t an Obamarrhoid ever reads it. We’re not interested in those, because they’ve already made up their minds, no matter what the evidence to the contrary says. We’re speaking only to the people who, for reasons entirely their own, vote Democrat because they have come to believe, at least to a degree, the propaganda about conservatives not giving a damn coming from the NSDWP.

First off, dear fellow citizens who vote Democrat: Those conservatives that the Democrat party has made you believe are uncaring, bloodless, selfless bastards are your neighbors. They’re all around you. They’re in your churches with you, they’re at PTA meetings with you, they’re at pot lucks with you, they live right next door to you, they’re the ones who help you with the yard when you can’t do it yourselves, they’re the ones coming over to your houses with dishes when your families go through crises, they’re the ones stopping in the middle of the night to help you fix a flat on the highway and we could go on forever. You know them. You know a lot of them, even though they may not be wearing their evil conservatism on their sleeves.

Second, focusing on the people on government assistance that we allegedly don’t care about and would love to shove off a cliff for a bit: Let’s start with the ones who, through no fault of their own, find themselves unemployed and unable to get a job. It could be because of sickness, it could be because Democrat voters, with good intentions, decided to vote for an incompetent fool who promised them free everything and unicorn rides and the economy, as an inevitable result, cratered, it could be because they screwed up, it could be because of anything imaginable.

There, but for the Grace of G-d, go I.

The Democrat party would have you believe that your fellow citizens of a conservative bend don’t care about those people. That they’re on their own and that we’d all be much better off if they’d just go die already.

This is self-evidently insane.

Unless you think that conservatives are superhuman wonders of nature, that is. Do you think that we never experience hardship? Of course we do. We’re no better or worse than anybody else. So for us to embrace the phony ideology that the Democrat party tells you that we embrace, we’d be practically suicidal since the only logical reaction for us when struck by hardship would be to off ourselves so as not to be a burden anymore. Because we don’t “care” about the poor.

Or if you want to look at the purely pragmatical aspect, we’d be willing to write off productive citizens as liabilities because of temporary setbacks in their lives. This is insane. Every citizen is a resource, and we write off resources as a society at our own peril. Who is going to pay for us when we grow too old to pay our own way? Certainly not the ones we’d starved to death or allowed to die from treatable diseases because their MasterCard was rejected.

We want everybody to be ridiculously wealthy and successful because it doesn’t merely help them, it helps everybody else too. And if they fall into a pit of despair as we all might, we’re more than happy to help them get out of there.

Then there is the group of people who will never be able to fend for themselves again. The chronically ill, the handicapped, the old etc. You think we don’t care about those either? If you vote Democrat, you do at least to a degree. Listen, we can take care of those quite easily. We’re a rich nation, thanks to our previous practice of letting people run their own lives and getting government out of the way, and caring for those who can’t care for themselves is bus fare to our economy.

And, need I say it again? There, but for the Grace of G-d… Not to mention that we will all grow old, even us conservatives, and we know it only too well.

That’s not the issue here, never has been, so quit listening to the Democrat party propaganda machine and their friends in the media, because you KNOW it to be true if you take the time to think about it. Look around you. Think about all of the times when one of those “heartless” conservatives reached out to help you or somebody you know.

Our issue is this, and ONLY this: We don’t think that we have an obligation to help those who won’t help themselves, who think that the good life is somehow “owed” to them by the virtue of them being born. We don’t think that government is the answer to all of our problems. We don’t think that anybody is “owed” anything. We’ll give you the shirt off of our backs to get you back on your feet, but we won’t do it because we think that we have an obligation to do so, we’ll do it because we want to, because we know that we could be you and because we have faith that you will pay it forward.

That’s the difference between conservatives and the Democrat party, really, right there. We believe in you, we help you because we want to, because we utterly reject the notion that people have to be forced to do what’s right.

We have more faith in mankind than that.

And you do too, when you think about it. You’ve just been misled by a relentless barrage of propaganda. We don’t blame you for that, ever, any more than we’d blame you for having a heart attack.

But we do ask you to think about it for a bit. And we’re here for you if you have any questions. Because we care. We really care, as opposed to “care by giving you other people’s money and expecting you to be grateful for it and praise us to high heavens for having spent what wasn’t ours to begin with.”

Thatisall.

29 comments

  1. 1
    LC SecondMouse growls and barks:

    You raise an important point, my Liege. I sometimes wonder what America would be like if we had been able to avoid the temptations of progressivism over these last hundred years or so, and therefore the harm it has subsequently wrought on the great qualities this nation once knew.

    Imagine a nation where the vast majority of wealth was still privately controlled because the government has not confiscated it from the most successful among us. Most people know who Bill Gates is, and many know that he has given the majority of his wealth to a foundation that bears his name. In fact, many of our nation’s most wealthy have done similar things with vast amounts of private wealth. But the Gates Foundation, for example, invests huge sums of money in projects taking place overseas. Why? Because in the US, we are conditioned to turn to government for help with our basic needs. Imagine a country of great private wealth where those resources were re-invested in us; where we turn to each other, in our own communities, when need arises. Imagine the quality of that assistance, and the realization that our neighbors will have higher expectations for how we use their support than our nameless, faceless government bureaucracy does. It saddens me to realize that our bad choices have meant that we have missed out on the opportunity to capitalize on this dynamic of neighbor-helping-neighbor while private wealth grew by leaps and bounds. There is no telling how big an impact this kind of culture might ultimately have had on poverty and morality in our country.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    With regards to people who vote democrat, You have 2 types:

    Those who are two stupid to see what the democrats are doing.
    :em02:

    Those who are being bribed by the Democrats with “Free Stuff!”
    :em01:

    Those who know what a crock this all is and are actually working to destroy the United States.
    :em07:

    You might be able to convince the first group, but the second and third groups? You would have better luck talking to concrete.
    :em08:
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  3. 3
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Obama is a Communist.

    He was raised as a Communist by Communists.

    He has Communists working in the White HouseHe has Communists visit him in the White House.

    The Communist Party supports Obama.

    The Communist Party seeks the destruction of The United States.

    Obama is the leader of the Communist Party in the United States.

    Obama is a Communist Enemy of the United States.

    Obama is a Communist. Obama is forcing Communism on America as a Dictator.

    Obama is a Communist Dictator in the White House.

    Obama is a Communist.

    Obama is Giving Communist China and Russia America’s military secrets and lowering America’s shield.

    Obama is seeking the Political, Social, Military, Financial and Industrial destruction of the United States. And he is doing it by a death of a 1000 cuts.

  4. 4
    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    Good morning.

    Why is this somehow “newsworthy”? It is like I have been saying for months — very few people really pay attention to the political contest until about 60 days out.

    Ordinarily, each Party can count on at least a thirty-five percent bloc of voters who will vote the party line no matter what. Right now, I think that number is just around that 47 percent range. Obama could have made the same claim that there are 47 percent of the voters who will vote for Romney no matter what, and that there was no way he was going to get them to vote.

    Romney was not only being ‘inarticulate’ in his statement by saying that he wasn’t “going to worry” about that 47 percent, he was also mistaken as to WHO made up the 47 percent that he referenced. It put a spot light on Romney that many people didn’t know about him — his disdain for people who are either poor or who find themselves in a situation where they have to rely on government help in order to survive.

    Many of these people who make up this 47 percent bloc of “takers” happen to be Conservatives — many of them probably are reading this right now.

    There are many reasons why 46.4 percent of people over 18 don’t pay income tax. Let’s see if any of you fit into this category:

    28.3 percent pay Payroll tax.
    10.3 percent are Elderly
    6.9 percent are non-elderly with an income under $20k (the greatest concentration of this group is found in “Red States”)
    < 1 percent are others.

    Elderly tax benefits make up 44 percent of tax deductions
    30. 4 percent are credits for children and the working poor
    1.3 percent are made up of capital gains and dividends credits (Mittens didn't pay income tax last year — he was taxed on his capital gains)
    5.6 percent were education credits
    5.0 percent were itemized deductions
    5.1 percent were ATL deductions and tax exempt interest
    6.0 percent were exclusions and other cash transfers.

    Mittens problem is that he lumped a large number of people into a group that have many different reasons for being a "taker". There are a lot of military families out there who collect food stamps because they are unable to make ends meet. Do you think that they are going like being part of this group that Romney has utter disdain for?

    Most of the elderly count on their Social Security check either as a main source of income or as a supplement to their retirement. Do you think that they appreciate being considered a "mooch" because they collect a government check on a program that they have paid into for amost fifty years? The elderly are probably Mittens largest group of supporters — until now.

    It doesn't surprise me that Romney really feels this way. If you want the true definition of the word "elitist", just look at Mitt Romney. He felt in his element in that talk with other millionaires, and what he said there (besides the 47 percent remark) is something that he is not likely to say out on the campaign trail.

    The media is all over this shit because Mittens is standoffish. While Obama doesn't hide from the media, Romney is kept at a distance from them. They also notice what a lot of us have known about the man for a long time — he is likely to have three or four different positions on an issue in the same day, depending on who he is talking to.

    Okay, I am going back to work now, so I can pay my taxes up here AND down there.
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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Why is this somehow “newsworthy”? It is like I have been saying for months — very few people really pay attention to the political contest until about 60 days out.

    Its 48 days away DJ

    48<60

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    LC MaxMomFL growls and barks:

    DJ, something you said awhile back is still true. You DO make it more interesting around here. I have to say I agree with a lot of your post. The 47% isn’t really the 47%. I am was one of the “takers” by way of the three d’s: death, divorce, and disability. My son will always be in the category of “taker” for the rest of his life due to disability. Neither of us could be considered Obama supporters nor “entitled”. Heck, I’ve paid a butt-load of taxes over the years and so has my family which more than compensates for our little bit of redistribution. Not to mention (but I will anyway), my ex’s contribution of part of his frikken’ brain to the US Army. But I digress.

    I am always miffed to hear the conservitards (and I don’t include you guys…or me guys here) who lump everyone into groups and percentages like the leftards do. WE shouldn’t think or talk like that. WE aren’t class warfare goons. WE don’t believe people are “groups” or “numbers” but rather individuals with unique value and infinite potential. The very idea of rolling off percentages and extrapolating mindsets tied to them disgusts me and with my life experience, I’m not easily disgusted.

    That being said, there certainly ARE many who do indeed think in the “entitled” mindset. I have argued with these folks on many occasions. They have different “reasons” but their arguments all boil down to “I should have an easy-peasy lemon-squeezy life because of circumstances beyond my control”. That is BS. You have the right (in this nation) to work your tail off just like everyone else; to succeed or fail on the merits of your choices and deeds just like everyone else; and to do what the hell you want with your hard earned resources.

    I expect a lot more from my profoundly disabled son than the government expects from these able-bodied “takers” who are cradle-to-grave coddled and while whining and bitching how it’s not FAIR that they don’t get more and others don’t have less. Again, I find myself uncharacteristically disgusted.

    BTW, that comment about Romney not facing the press and Obama being all transparenty-goodness was HILLARICAL!
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    dcs2244 growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Obama is a Communist.
    He was raised as a Communist by Communists.
    He has Communists working in the White HouseHe has Communists visit him in the White House.
    The Communist Party supports Obama.
    The Communist Party seeks the destruction of The United States.
    Obama is the leader of the Communist Party in the United States.
    Obama is a Communist Enemy of the United States.
    Obama is a Communist. Obama is forcing Communism on America as a Dictator.
    Obama is a Communist Dictator in the White House.
    Obama is a Communist.
    Obama is Giving Communist China and Russia America’s military secrets and lowering America’s shield.
    Obama is seeking the Political, Social, Military, Financial and Industrial destruction of the United States. And he is doing it by a death of a 1000 cuts.

    President Obama was the “red diaper baby of a red diaper baby.” Kinda like a “seventh son of a seventh son” Sinbad thing, only opposite.

  8. 8
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Might it not be better to embrace the “evil” label? It’s liberating, and evil political parties tend to do a lot better than good ones.

  9. 9
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Breaking news from CBS, of all places: THERE WAS NO PROTEST at the Benghazi consulate before the attacks.

    There was, according to the Libyan witnesses, NO “protest” at the Benghazi consulate: but a well-orchestrated military attack:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7422322n&tag=mncol;lst;2

    Elizabeth Palmer does some REAL REPORTING. Good for her!!!!

    Please pass the link along to All and Sundry. (The fact that it’s from CBS helps, when distributing it to non-Republicans.)

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    ebrown2 growls and barks:

    The media is all over this shit because Mittens is standoffish. While Obama doesn’t hide from the media, Romney is kept at a distance from them. They also notice what a lot of us have known about the man for a long time — he is likely to have three or four different positions on an issue in the same day, depending on who he is talking to.

    That’s why Romney has a known hatred for the Press that equals or exceeds Nixon

    Hmm….

    That’s why President Obama is known for his lengthy and witty Q & A sessions at White House press conferences, why he’s a regular Jack Kennedy…

    Whaat???

    Yeah, that’s why Romney was hanging out with Jay-Z and Beyonce’ in Vegas while President Obama was bravely taking questions and facing media heat for the Middle East melt-down…

    No, wait a minute…

    So, what’s the color of the sky in Bizarro World, Chumley?

  11. 11
    ebrown2 growls and barks:

    “Its 48 days away DJ

    48<60"

    Math is hard for regressives. The fact that we can't tax our way out of the deficit by bankrupting EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of the so-called "1%" can't and won't penetrate the depleted uranium that substitutes for their skulls and grey matter.

  12. 12
    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Its 48 days away DJ

    48<60

    It is the WINDOW of sixty days out from the election where stupid shit happens that could make or break a candidate’s chances of winning. Most people do not pay attention until sixty days out. Romney could have been caught boiling kittens alive in his back yard back in July and it wouldn’t effect his chances of being elected. But inside the 60-day window, he could utter the wrong sentence or phrase and completely ruin his chances.

    LC MaxMomFL says:

    DJ, something you said awhile back is still true. You DO make it more interesting around here. I have to say I agree with a lot of your post. The 47% isn’t really the 47%. I am was one of the “takers” by way of the three d’s: death, divorce, and disability. My son will always be in the category of “taker” for the rest of his life due to disability. Neither of us could be considered Obama supporters nor “entitled”. Heck, I’ve paid a butt-load of taxes over the years and so has my family which more than compensates for our little bit of redistribution. Not to mention (but I will anyway), my ex’s contribution of part of his frikken’ brain to the US Army. But I digress.

    I think that is my point, MaxMomFL. Romney made the mistake of characterizing the wrong 47 percent, because THAT 47 percent is NOT made up of lazy people who expect government to take care of them, and they aren’t exclusively supporters of Obama OR Romney.
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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    LC MaxMomFL @ #:
    YES!!!!

    You know, the thing that did bug me about Romney’s comment was that it reeked of the campaigning “experts” he says he has directing the campaign. In the video (I watched the whole thing, and highly recommend it: this is what they say to the rich donors), Romney even bragged that they’d honchoed elections in foreign countries.

    Well, shit. We don’t need foreigners, or cold-blooded strategists like Karl Rove, to tell us how to FIGHT for OUR COUNTRY.

    This isn’t about getting a sliver of a majority so you can be the chief executive and maybe drag us somewhat out of the ditch: this election needs to be about the fight for the hearts and minds of America’s CITIZENS.

    We need Romney and Ryan and all of them to stand up and fight with us for the American Way!!!!

  14. 14
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    I still can’t stop laughing at this one:

    DJ Allyn says:

    The media is all over this shit because Mittens is standoffish. While Obama doesn’t hide from the media, Romney is kept at a distance from them.

    I don’t know. I guess if I had the advantage of knowing that every “hard-hitting” interview with the media would consist entirely of “how do you manage to keep those abs?”, “is it a burden to be so fantastically, super-humanly awesome?”, “what is your favorite color?”, “how do you manage to be so fantastically approachable in spite of you, and let’s be honest here, being a demigod whose feet we are not worthy to lick the dog shit off of?”, then I too might be quite happy to let them fondle my taint.

    But if all I’ll ever get is “Mister Raaaaaaaaaamneyyyy, what about your gaaaaaaaaffesssss?, what about the palestiiiiiiniannnnnssss?”, then I, too, might tell them to go suck start a Remington 870.

    And he can’t even handle that, the Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure. When he appears to have his limp cock fluffed by Letterman, an appearance that was obviously much more important than addressing the issue of a U.S. Ambassador being murdered and then having his corpse sodomized by muslim animals, he can’t even bring himself to “remember” the size of the debt he created, a number that any American with a brain knows since it just rounded a cool $16,000,000,000,000 on his watch, a number that puts us ahead of even Spain in the “most likely to crash spectacularly as a nation” sweepstakes.

    But nobody in the “press” bothered to mention that, did they?

    No, it’s all “what about your gaaaaaaaaffesss, Mr. Raaaaaamneyyyyy?”, all the time.

    Fuck it, I’m done with them, and so is the American people, if their plummeting circulation and constant layoffs are anything to go by. Go right the fuck back to hell, media, you’ve reached the point where you make the old time Pravda look positively wonderful by comparison and yes, I DID read that rag quite a bit back in the day. Part of the job. Even they would have rejected the so-called “media” in America of today as being too blatantly obviously in the tank.
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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    …quit listening to the Democrat party propaganda machine and their friends in the media, because you KNOW it to be true if you take the time to think about it.

    “Search your feelings…you know it to be true.” :-)

  16. 16
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Turns out Mittens was right about the 47% after all in spite of the DNC media trying to invent a meme from nothing.

  17. 17
    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    But if all I’ll ever get is “Mister Raaaaaaaaaamneyyyy, what about your gaaaaaaaaffesssss?, what about the palestiiiiiiniannnnnssss?”, then I, too, might tell them to go suck start a Remington 870.

    Misha, tell me what exactly does Mitt Romney stand for? Do you actually know? Does ANYONE know where he stands on anything?

    At least you know where Obama is at. You cannot say the same for Mittens, because he has been on all sides of an issue — sometimes at the same time.

    The media (and everyone else who pays attention) knows this. He is all things to everyone — it just depends on who he is talking to at the time.

    I doubt seriously that he actually believes what he said about the 47 percent while talking in front of those millionaires. He was just saying what he thought they would WANT to hear.

    I don’t know if you remember the old television series, This Is Your Life, but every time I hear Mittens talk, I want to say, “Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up?”

    I think that the only thing that Mittens believes is that he is somehow “supposed” to be president. I think he believes that he is fulfilling the White Horse Prophecy. In order to reach that point, he pretty much has to be all things to all people.

    One of the more recent things he said was that he accepts the label of being the “grandfather of Obamacare”, and that he had to be against Obamacare during the primary. Of course his campaign later had to walk that back by saying he didn’t really mean that.

    Immediately following the revelation of the 47 percent video, Romney was quick to come out and stand up for what he said. A couple of days later, he is talking about being the president for 100 percent of the people. Which is it?

    You are witnessing a campaign going down in flames. I see Barry Goldwater all over again. It isn’t a good sign when the friggin’ CO-CHAIR of the campaign jumps ship to join the Banksters. (Pawlenty had been promised a cabinet position with Romney, and with him taking a new job on Wall Street pretty much signals that Pawlenty is through with it all.

    I cannot wait for the debates — that is, if Romney decides to go through with them. (it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if he cancels at least one of them)

    Most statistical models have Obama with a 75 percent chance of winning re-election. I can see the RNC pulling money out of the presidential race and spending it on the congressional races instead. I’ve said it here before, Republicans are keeping their powder dry for a run for the presidency in 2016. I am sure that there are more than a few people here who probably feel the same way.

    Whoever wins this time around will still have a deep pile of shit to navigate through, and I honestly think that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats want to be in that position this time around. The party occupying the Oval Oriface for the next four years will be put out to pasture in 2016.
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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Misha, tell me what exactly does Mitt Romney stand for? Do you actually know? Does ANYONE know where he stands on anything?

    Once again, start here and do the research if you actually care.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Misha, tell me what exactly does Mitt Romney stand for? Do you actually know? Does ANYONE know where he stands on anything?

    DJ…PLEASEto go suck start a Remington 870.

  20. 20
    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    LC Gunsniper says:

    Once again, start here and do the research if you actually care.

    For every position he has there, I can point out at least two other positions he’s had. You cannot honestly say for a fact that the position he articulates on his website is his actual position on anything.

    And LOOK at his “plan(s)” What exactly does he say, other than some feel-good wording? It sounds good, but how does he intend to get it done? Obama said the same things, and couldn’t get a lot of it done because Congress couldn’t get it done.

    I have to laugh every time I hear someone say that we need someone who understands how to run a business in the White House. Really?

    A business is basically a dictatorship, that takes no input from the rank and file. A business isn’t a democracy, it is mostly fascist in nature. Those governments that have been run like businesses usually end up being oligarchies.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn says:

    Misha, tell me what exactly does Mitt Romney stand for? Do you actually know? Does ANYONE know where he stands on anything?

    As opposed to what politician, exactly? I’m dying to know.

    A politician playing to the crowd is not exactly news, you know, unless you’re too dumb to tie your own shoe laces.

    It’s not the issue here. I know full well that Romney is a politician because, well, he’s a politician. You know exactly how far I trust him, which is nowhere near as far as I can throw him out of a ballista. I’m not at ALL happy that he’s the one who ended up with the nomination, I’d rather have my DOG on the ballot, but that’s not the issue.

    What the issue IS is that I know what Obumfuck stands for as he has proven through four damnable years of one fuckup after another. I knew that before he was sworn in, having lived the consequences of his kind of idiocy until I escaped to this country, and every single word and action of his has proven that I was right.

    I may not know what Romney stands for even though I’m beginning to recognize aspects of his personality that I am quite familiar with and might just work, but I do KNOW that if we continue down the path of Obamunism, we’re utterly fucked as a nation.

    So I’m up for some actual Change. I might very well be disappointed by President Romney, but I KNOW that I and my children will be utterly butt-fucked by President Obama for another four years.

    Your baby has a track record, and it’s one of an endless string of clusterfucks. Everything he has touched has turned to shit. Everything.

    I am faced with the choice of going all in on something that hasn’t worked at all, not once, and an unknown that MIGHT be another fuckup.

    That’s really not a hard choice at all.
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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn @ #:

    A business is basically a dictatorship, that takes no input from the rank and file. A business isn’t a democracy, it is mostly fascist in nature.

    :em03:
    DAFAQ did I just read ??

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    My setiments exactly.

    DJ wants to characterize business as facist. I wonder where a board of directors and stockholders facter into his facist equation? When I think facsist behavior I think about the way the Obamacare was passed. Middle of the night, paying for votes,no one had the op to read it, 70 plus % against it. Yet Romney is the potential facist right?

    It matters not what a poll or anyone else says, we MUST get everyone and his proverbial brother to the voting booth this time.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    A business is basically a dictatorship, that takes no input from the rank and file. A business isn’t a democracy, it is mostly fascist in nature. Those governments that have been run like businesses usually end up being oligarchies.

    Democracy is nothing but tyranny of the majority. I’ll happily roll the dice with Mittens rather than tolerate another term of jugears and his push to turn America into Zimbabwe. jugears and his worshipers need to be neutralized preferably through the ballot box but if not, well…

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    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    Only a sole proprietorship can be run as a dictatorship. But, even then, the proprietor has to listen to his customers, else he goes out of business. The dictator in a sole proprietorship cannot dictate price or quality to his customers. The partners in a partnership cannot dictate to each other, nor to their customers. Ditto with a corporation. All businesses, no matter their form are subservient to their customers, or they go out of business.
    Now, DJ, if you were talking of businesses where the employees have equal say with management. most of them end up in bankruptcy court. If they can’t get reorganized to where the employees no longer can dictate to management, they go under. Kiwi Airlines ring a bell? And, if you are truly worried about an oligarchy, just how well did the Soviet Union do, where the People supposedly was the government? Well, only those people who were connected, who marched in lockstep with the Party … kind of like the Democrats, yes? :em07:

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    I do not pretend to understand the full genesis of this horrible situation, but I know this: Islam is “Mandated” to rule the World. The West had better wake up to this, and stop thinking it can coexist in peace with this mongrel “Religion.” If we do not, we are DEAD.

    This culture is tribal and follows a course set in the seventh century, they are not ready for a democracy. It is written in their Koran to kill anyone not following the Koran.

    I encourage DJ to go first

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    The more I thought about that line from DJ, I wondered, where have I heard similar ?? Then it hit me. OWS, any commietard rally, and on and on. So fucknard, what’s your card number ??


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