Doing the Liberal Fascists’ Dirty Work For Them

When we find ourself thinking that Mike Fuckabee is actually making sense, then we have to start worrying. But he is, in spite of what Allahpundit and the rest of the “right” wing blogosphere Inquisition are saying.

The Party’s leaders have for reasons that aren’t rational, left him behind on the political battlefield, wounded and bleeding, a casualty of his self-inflicted, but not intentional wound. In a Party that supposedly stands for life, it was tragic to see the carefully orchestrated and systematic attack on a fellow Republican. Not for a moral failure or corruption or a criminal act, but for a misstatement which he contritely and utterly repudiated. I was shocked by GOP leaders and elected officials who rushed so quickly to end the political life of a candidate over a mistaken comment in an interview. This was a serious mistake, but it was blown out of proportion not by the left, but by Akin’s own Republican Party. Is this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates? Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are “conveniently pro-life” for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?

Yep, Mike, it sure seems that way. Us Icky SoCons are just fine and perfectly allowed to hold our archaic, unsciency beliefs as long as we only use them to snare other SoCons into the Gentry GOP’s ever so much more enlightened tent, but if we dare actually believe in those things, in public no less, then we can just go fuck ourselves.

But, of course, it’s more than that too. It’s not just a Gentry GOP scheme to build their very own plantation for SoCons the same way the Democrat National Socialists have built one for blacks (who else are they going to vote for?), it’s also yet another in a long, long row of examples of the so-called “right” being extremely eager to let the liberal fascists frame the Narrative, define the battlefield and control the language. We’ve seen it so many times we’ve lost count.

The liberal fascists manufacture an outrage and the “pragmatic” right immediately crawl over each other to be firstest with the mostest and loudest condemnation and denunciation before they’ve even considered what the whole kerfuffle is about. And by the time the dust has settled and they’ve slaughtered their own in yet another futile attempt to appease the liberal fascist anger gods, the liberal fascists are laughing their arses off, having won yet another battle by letting the other side execute each other with “friendly” fire.

Because we’re betterer than they are and that, apparently, needs to be proven over and over again and can only be proven by surrendering the battlefield without a shot (at the other side, anyway) every single time the enemy as much as looks at us funny.

We suppose one way of explaining it would be deep-seated insecurity on the part of those “right” wing Witchfinder Generals. After all, a person who knows he’s right doesn’t need to “prove” anything. His actions and beliefs prove them every day. But if he’s not actually sure he’s right, then it’s another matter.

It’s like the whole ROE clusterfuck overseas. We’re murdering our own troops by tying their hands behind their backs in a fight with the most unscrupulous, sadistic, subhuman enemy we’ve ever fought, including the Japs and the Nazis. For what? To “prove” that we’re “better than they are.”

What the everloving FUCK do we have to “prove?” Is being the strongest, most prosperous, freest (at least until Obongo and his NSDWP took over) nation in the history of the world not proof enough? Is the fact that people all over the rest of the world are trying to get here rather than the other way around not proof enough? Yes, His Majesty was born an ig’nant furreiner, so maybe we’re not getting some of the finer nuances here, BUT WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS COUNTRY HAVE TO PROVE THAT ITS EXISTENCE HASN’T PROVEN ALREADY???

If anything, dropping a nuke on the capital of one of those festering, pisslamic, barbarian savage terrorist breeding grounds would be the best proof we can think of that we’re better than they are.

But we digress, back to the whole Akin clusterfuck:

You can’t win by constantly surrendering to your enemy. You. Just. Can’t. Mewling infants in our Imperial native stomping grounds understand this instinctively. Why is it so fucking hard to understand for some people in this country?

Yes, Akin said something incredibly clumsy, wide open to misinterpretation because he couldn’t resist walking into an obvious trap. Not smart. We’ve said that ourself and we mean it. And he apologized, he clarified, he did anything short of crawling all the way to Damascus on his bleeding knees, but that wasn’t enough. Oh noes, the pile-on was in effect, the Code Red had been called and not a single “conservative” of the blogosphere wanted to be the last one to slap the bleeding corpse in the head with a shoe. Because otherwise their “better than they are” bona fides might be threatened.

Pathetic.

Yes, we actually agree, as we’ve said already, that it would be best if Akin withdrew at this point, but we didn’t say so until it was bloody obvious that he had been irreparably mauled, not by his enemies (we should expect that), but by his alleged allies. That’s not the point. The point is that it makes us want to puke reading the howls of outrage that he won’t withdraw now that he’s a dead man walking, politically speaking, coming from the same Idiotarian arseholes who are, to a large part, responsible for the fact that he is a dead man walking.

They’ll whine and scream and beat their chests that his stubborn refusal to withdraw might cost us control of the Senate (they’re right about that, by the way), heck we should probably stage an intervention for Ace at this point to keep him from killing himself over that issue, it’s all that he seems able to talk about and we’d really rather not lose his great wit and wonderfully wicked sense of humor, but they won’t for a fleeting second countenance that the reason that his candidacy is dead and, as a result, might cost us the Senate, is due in large part to their efforts to gang bang it to death before the idiot even had a chance to defend himself.

And, to top off the irony milkshake with a giant maraschino irony bomb, they’re equally outraged that he won’t consider their wise counsel to withdraw after they’ve been parading his proverbial head around on a bloody spike for days, banging their chests and proclaiming their righteous virtue in calling for the witch to be burned. We may be old-fashioned, but we wouldn’t exactly be open to suggestions from people who’d just tried to have us publicly hanged, drawn and quartered either.

So if Akin’s bid goes down in flames, as we believe it will at this point, and if it means that the Senate stays in liberal fascist hands, then we fully intend to hold up a mirror to those who helped destroy it every single fucking time they wail about it.

Are we saying that we should just turn a blind eye whenever one of “ours” fucks up and says something stupid? Of course we’re not, anybody who knows us knows that too. But there are ways of going about that not involving surrendering to the enemy. When somebody on our side says something truly stupid (we’ve been known to do so ourself from time to time), we fully intend to point it out to them and demand that they clarify. And then we’ll let it go at that until they’ve had a chance to respond.

If they’re stuck on stupid, then so be it. Good riddance. But doing the liberal fascists’ dirty work for them?

Not on our watch.

Thatisall.

23 comments

  1. 1
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Brandon Raub

    Attention U.S. Military: You are Being Demonized. This is an Extremely Important Article … It’s now becoming overt. The meme emanating rapidly from the mainstream media is that the U.S. military is a threat to the nation! It sounds very 1984 and backwards, but what isn’t these days. What really captured my attention is a very clever and dangerous article published by Reuters titled “U.S. Army battling racists within its own ranks.” It sounds benign enough at first and as you continue to read it all seems pretty reasonable. Who wants crazy racists running around the armed forces? Nobody. That said, there is a tone throughout that clearly attempts to make the sheeple public suspicious about returning veterans, which is bothersome in its own right considering these young men and women are being sacrificed daily by the elite power structure that would never dip their dainty little toes anywhere near any action. – libertyblitzkrieg.com

    Dominant Social Theme: Champions of free speech, anti-tax promotions and the right to keep and bear arms are closet white supremacist Neo-Nazis. Watch out!

    Free-Market Analysis: The real reason why they arrested former US Marine Brandon Raub and then confined him to a psychiatric ward is now emerging.

    It may be part of a deliberate Pentagon policy to declare people who are vets and concerned about eroding freedoms – as Raub obviously was – to be emotionally disturbed and thus ineligible to carry or use weapons.

    It seems to have something to do with a new demonization of US military personnel, as Michael Krieger over at libertyblitzkrieg.com suggests.

    Krieger brilliantly dissects a recent Reuters article, and has the insight to focus on a brazen statement right in the middle of the article. (It’s called “burying the lead.”) Anyway, here’s how Krieger presents it:

    … the article didn’t really get me concerned until the section where they discuss a presentation that the U.S. Army itself is apparently showing to its own troops. Reuters watched this presentation and they write:

    “The standard hateful message has not been replaced, just packaged differently with issues like freedom of speech, anti-gun control themes, tax reform and oppression,” the presentation says, noting that recruitment may be difficult to detect, occurring quietly “in bars and break areas” on bases.

    Wow. Do you folks see what this is saying? They aren’t talking about racism anymore. They are essentially saying that people that defend freedom of speech and the right to bear arms are the new “white supremacists!” They really expect people to be stupid enough to fall for this. This is incredible. A U.S. Army presentation is apparently saying that military members who believe in the Bill of Rights are the enemy, despite the fact that they have sworn an oath to protect that very document.

    You see? Raub is incarcerated in a mental facility to assess his level of loony racism. Why is he considered a racist threat? Because he has written on “issues like freedom of speech, anti-gun control themes, tax reform and oppression.”

    More @ The Daily Bell

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    LC FX Phillips growls and barks:

    Have to agree your Majesty.

    A critical mass of stupidity and PC has terminally infected the Party of Stupid. It manifested itself in 2010 with establishment sniping at senate candidates that were chosen in defiance of the party’s eminence grises who lost no opportunity to either expose or pile on any and every mistake these ‘renegade” candidates made. Of course the fact that the regular republican party had basically abandoned the field and was hiding in the corner trying not to provoke the ire of the newly minted demigod Obama.

    Then all of of sudden because of the deux ex machina of Tea Party the POS gains the house and comes tantalizingly close to winning the senate while cynically taking credit for and blaming the Tea Party for not taking the senate because of candidates the establishment helped undermine.

    We saw it all through the next 2 years as Mitch McConnell and Weepy Boehner systematically caved on one initiative after another to the point that no one actually believes even if they do control the senate(at least numerically) that they will have the balls to change anything lest they incur the wrath of the NDSWP and their fascist fellating fellow travelers in the media. Even if they have a majority their will still be enough “reasonable” republicans and spineless political hacks to derail any peel back of the damage that has been inflicted by the malevolent thug Obama.

    We saw it all trough the primaries as damaging leaks came out or third rate issues were blown out of proportion in order to one by one weed any real change candidate out and left us at the end with 3 compromised retread establishment hacks.

    What this whole thing shows is the absolute unseriousness of the electorate and the POS that one verbal mistake outweighs the breathtakingly thorough and objectively quantifiable damage done by Obama and his senate flunky McCaskill. If Akin loses because of this it is because the people of Missouri are not serious about changing the real problems that face us. The POS made a big deal about it is because he wasn’t their boy. They were looking for any excuse that they could use to leverage him out and get a “good ole boy” to adhere to the governing compact the POS ruling class have made with the NDSWP ruling class. The fact they used this ancillary issue to attempt the coup shows they, too, are not all that serious about the damage being done by the “liberal” fascist party. Believe me it’s not just POS hierarchy the RINO lemmings are out in full force. Just look at the rats jumping of the ship in the thread to this article

    Obamacare. Dodd-Frank. Executive orders eviscerating welfare reform. Taxmageddon. Trillion dollar deficits to the horizon. No budget for three years. Unauthorized uses of military force. Leaks of sensitive information for the aggrandizement of teh One. Granting access to the levers of government to the Muslim Brotherhood. Potential secret agendas with foreign governments. Executive orders eviscerating immigration laws. An out of control EPA looking to impoverish the US. Fast and Furious. DOE loans to political hacks and cronies. You didn’t build that.

    Yeah all that(and that wasn’t all) is outweighed by one maladroit answer concerning a third tier issue that was elevated to pants on fire important by a ham fisted party establishment looking to get it’s favored hack on the ballot.

    When they do openly stupid and offensive shit like this it makes it that much harder to pull the lever for them.

    One more thing. This was warning sent by the establishment hatchet men to any who might actually espouse and act on their conservatism. If you make even one mistake we will throw you to the wolves no questioned asked. We will not defend and in fact will join in the feeding frenzy.

    Nice to know you have to be more wary of the guns behind you than those in your front.

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    Well, allow me to be stupid, then. I am going to pile on.

    We have already established that Akin said an incredibly stupid thing. We have also established the political reality of said statement is that the Demonrats will take advantage of it, and so they did. In spades. The other political reality is that after this Akin cannot win – whether it’s because of his stupid comments or because the Democrats did what they’re so good at – probably a combination of both. I doubt any amount of support from the GOP would have stopped this, especially since they would be seen as supporting his stupid statements, and not “forgiving” a dumb mistake.

    But instead of un-assing the AO and allowing a better candidate to take his place (see: Sarah Steelman) who may have perhaps kicked the floundering McCaskill in the labia, Akin decided to stay in, likely knowing what would happen.

    So now, it’s too late to bow out without going to court. He lost a 10 point lead and is now 10 points behind. And the politically vulnerable McCaskill is no longer so vulnerable.

    Akin is not only stupidly stubborn, he’s stubbornly stupid. Instead of having some class and moving aside, his campaign comes out with the following retardery about his loss of support:

    “The fact that Claire McCaskill is only polling at 48% after 72 hours of constant negative attacks on Todd Akin shows just how weak she is. If she can’t break fifty percent after a week like this, Democrats should ask Claire to step down.”

    Really, Todd? Delusional much?

    The GOP is going to lose that seat. That is the political reality, whether we like it or not. And it’s not thanks to the GOP’s lack of support for Akin’s stupidity. It’s thanks to Akin’s stupidity.

    Go ahead. Flame away.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Nothing to flame at. We both agree that Akin’s candidacy is fucked at this point. We also agree that he stuck his foot in his mouth in that interview.

    You might even be right that his candidacy would have been toast even without the senseless, frothing, “me too” pile-on from the “right” before he’d even had a chance to explain himself. Who knows? I certainly don’t, even though I will say that his comments, stupid as they were when they first left his mouth, weren’t near as disastrously daft once he’d had the chance to issue a much-needed clarification.

    But that’s just me. Not that his clarification mattered all that much because, at that point, “conservatives” were already running around in the streets, parading his bloody body parts that they’d ripped off in their frenzy to denounce him first.

    And that’s my point, not whether he could win or not after he fucked up on TeeVee: What did “our side” possibly hope to gain from that gargantuan clusterfuck of a gang rape? Were they afraid that the OgabeMedia wouldn’t do a good enough job of crucifying him? If so, I have to laugh. Were they hoping that their frenzied, furious denunciations would gain them popularity with the OgabeMedia and other Obamarrhoids? If so, I really have to laugh at their naivete and utter immunity to reality.

    Could he have won without the holier-than-thou idiocy from the “right wing” blogosphere? I don’t know, but I do know that the pile-on didn’t help him.

    So, again: Do we really have to do the idiot left’s dirty work for them? If so, why?
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    Emperor Misha I says:

    And that’s my point, not whether he could win or not after he fucked up on TeeVee: What did “our side” possibly hope to gain from that gargantuan clusterfuck of a gang rape? Were they afraid that the OgabeMedia wouldn’t do a good enough job of crucifying him? If so, I have to laugh. Were they hoping that their frenzied, furious denunciations would gain them popularity with the OgabeMedia and other Obamarrhoids? If so, I really have to laugh at their naivete and utter immunity to reality.

    While I’m not in the GOP’s mindset, I would think that logically they had to step away from the comments at once. Far away. They’re already being painted as waging a war on women. I doubt they wanted to be anywhere near what Akin shat out of his piehole – liberal media or not – and didn’t want to be seen as supporting that kind of idiocy in any way, shape or form.

    Frankly, his “clarification” left me somewhat cold, and it’s not just because I have an admitted bias. A large number of conservatives I know felt the same way.

    He claimed he “misspoke,” and yet he tried to use pseudo-science to support his claim. In a carefully thought out statement after the fact, he said “To be clear, all of us understand that rape can result in pregnancy & I have great empathy for all victims. I regret misspeaking.” His “off the cuff” statement shows his true belief, IMO – the belief that “legitimate” rape victims don’t get pregnant. Misspeaking is saying “nookular” instead of “nuclear” or, as Bush did, saying “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” Akin didn’t misspeak. He simply told the interviewer what he believed – a myth that has long been discredited. He didn’t accidentally use the wrong language. I don’t believe the misspeak claim for a moment.

    What I DO believe is that he is committed to saving the lives of unborn children. But in his zeal, he spewed a fallacy and was caught with his pants down as not having done his research and not having the facts.

    If I were the GOP, I’d cut him loose too.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Speaking of misspeakiness…

    Zero refers to 4-star Admiral as “General.”

    “You’ve got one who was a candidate, a Republican candidate for office. And a proud card carrying member of the Tea Party. So this is obviously a partisan film. I’d advise that you talk to General McRaven, who’s in charge of our Special Ops. I think he has a point of view in terms of how deeply I care about what these folks do each and every day to protect our freedom.”

    The difficulty with this is that William McRaven is an admiral not a general. As a SEAL, he is member of the US Navy, not US Army or US Marines.

    Shouldn’t the commander-in-chief know that by now?
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    bruce growls and barks:

    of course the commies hate real americans which is why they use any excuse to demonize those who believe in our constitution.this tactic of arresting some one and confining them to a mental hospital is right out of the soviet union as are hate crime laws.any cop who does this should be viewed as an enemy traitor who deserves a traitors reward.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Sigh….this shit is getting old. This thread isn’t about the dummys statement. This thread is about the GOP response and wether their response was reasonable. They didn’t even give the guy the chance to issue a clarification before calling for him to step down. They couldn’t even dummy up for 18 fucking hrs. Completing the self initiated demolition certainly didn’t require god and everyone to jump in. It only required the head of the rnc and the two major candidates. In one of my first comments on this subject I stated that I was not comfortable with the GOP response. They gave the guy no reasonable opportunity to correct his error. They declared him mortally wounded and then proceeded to stab him repeatedly. Meanwhile the other side allows folks like Anthony “here’s a pic of my junk” Weiner to at least to attempt a recovery. Who deserves such latitude? The guy who says something really really stupid motivated by the desire to protect INNOCENT BABIES, or the guy motivated to “hook up”with young (much younger) women?

    And that’s what this thread is about.

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    LC TerribleTroy @ #:
    Considering the liberal attacks on the GOP and the close race that this Presidential election will be, I can’t say their response to turn away from him was unreasonable, Troy. That’s the whole point.

    As I said earlier, I’m not in their mindset, but considering everything, I don’t think it was a bad idea to get the fuck away from him as quickly as possible. His tremendous drop in the polls AFTER he issued his “clarification,” giving McCaskill a comfortable lead, shows they did the right thing, because his “clarification” was barely that.
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    LC Spare Parts growls and barks:

    Of course. Todd Akin is Not one of Them. He really is total Pro Life and most Republicans care less.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Ah, so his tremendous drop in the polls was in no way influenced by the circular firing squad? Completely irrelavant right? It is one thing to distance oneself from bad behavior and another to close the gap to stabbing range. You aren’t biased on this issue you are emotionally compromised. He was still up by one the next day, which I suspect is due to word not having gotten out. Subsequently logic dictates that I factor the GOPs influence in this matter. Now the weight given to the factor could be speculated, but that doesn’t remove the factor from the table. You agree with the GOP behavior based on your emotional investment alone. You wanted this guys head from word one because it touched a emotional nerve. You don’t want to hear that and I’m not judging you or response. I’m suggesting that you step back and look at your commo on this matter and then tell me if I’m being unreasonable or not. Cause its pretty apparent that your immediate concern wasn’t primarily motivated by “the good of the party.

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    LC TerribleTroy @ #:
    OK – first of all, I already said that my comments were likely affected by personal issues in this matter. I’m not stupid. Nor am I “emotionally compromised.” Please don’t treat me like I’m an idiot. I’m perfectly aware of my biases in this instance and I would submit that I’m actually more capable of looking at the situation with a critical eye, because I’m keenly aware of my own issues here!

    Second, I don’t give a flying fuck about the “good of the party.” I haven’t voted for a Republican president since Bush Senior.

    Third, you cannot expect the media NOT to grab on to this tidbit, especially in a pretty critical state! You admit yourself that he was likely still up by the next day because word had not fully gotten out. Once word DID get out, the problems started rolling. The guy was 10 points up on McCaskill and now he’s 10 points down. Had the GOP not turned away from him, he may have been 5 points down, but still down. Hell, he may have even been 3 points down. Who knows! But it’s still a hell of a lead to blow.

    Fourth, from a public affairs standpoint, which has been honed by 12 years of military and civilian public affairs experience, the GOP did the only thing it could do. It distanced itself from Akin’s stupidity post haste. They cannot afford to be silent and be seen as in any way supportive of Akin’s comments, which we all admit were stupid, ESPECIALLY since the left is launching attacks that claim Republicans are anti-women. And they cannot afford to wait until Akin explains himself. We may think the attacks are bullshit, and yet another distraction from the real problems facing this country, and they are, but given this society’s ignorance, these attacks will be effective. This is a hotly contested election year, and appearances are 90 percent of reality. Whether you like it or not, that is the truth. Reality is, whether you like it or not, the GOP cannot be perceived as supporting ignorance. Reality is, whether we like it or not, they did what they had to do to show themselves as “not anti-women.” Reality is, whether you like it or not, they would have been skewered even worse than they are already, by refusing to immediately disavow those comments.

    We may not like it, but that is absolute reality. The GOP couldn’t afford NOT to condemn Akin as quickly and as passionately as possible. In our political environment, unfortunately, you either stand on your lofty principles, or you lose. It’s either or. Not both. And the GOP wants to win. Do I like the compromise of principles? No. I wish our system was different, but it’s not. But if they want to win, they have to play the cards they’re dealt, not the cards they wish they were dealt.

    So as much as I think Akin is a fucktard, my opinion of him doesn’t matter here. I think my analysis of the situation is pretty sound – even though I’m not a GOP strategist – despite my being what you refer to as “emotionally compromised.” If in your zeal to defend the guy, you can’t see what I’m saying, maybe I’m not the one who can’t get past her biases here.
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    L.C. Mope growls and barks:

    This finally may be over:

    Jim Hoft ?@gatewaypundit

    Word on the street- 4:15 presser at akin HQ!!!!!!!
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    One way or another, I’m done with it.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    When did I defend this guy with zeal? I don’t think, nor do I believe that I ever insinuated that you are a idiot. If that’s the impression of my comment, that was not my intent. I don’t equate being emotionally compromised as being stupid or lacking of intellect. You admit your bias but refuse to admit that the bias colors your perspective? So I will ask you, what is the source of your self admitted bias? You going to tell me its not emotionally driven? Its all driven by pure logic?

    Like I wrote earlier, you wanted the guys head from word one primarily due to your emotional investment and that bias allows you justify the GOPs response and all other considerations are secondary. I’m not defending this guys remarks and never have. I stand by my position that the GOP didn’t need to nuke the guy. The heavy hitters could have spoken for all and then all the little minions could have registered their agreement with the “party line” when ASKED. Your position is that they “needed” to use the approach they used to reach optimum impact. I disagree. But I agree to disagree. The reality is that its all moot now, what is….is.

    We’ve interacted now for a couple of years. Which do you think I would do if I thought you were stupid, insinuate you were stupid or just say it outright?

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    LC TerribleTroy says:

    When did I defend this guy with zeal?

    I consider this a pretty zealous defense. “The guy who says something really really stupid motivated by the desire to protect INNOCENT BABIES, or the guy motivated to “hook up”with young (much younger) women?” I don’t blame you. You’re passionate. I get that. It’s not a bad thing, but it is filled with lots of intensity.LC TerribleTroy says:

    I don’t think, nor do I believe that I ever insinuated that you are a idiot. If that’s the impression of my comment, that was not my intent.

    Sorry, but that’s the way it came across. Like I’m too dumb to make a rational assessment in this case, because I’m all emotional about it. Not the case.
    LC TerribleTroy says:

    I don’t equate being emotionally compromised as being stupid or lacking of intellect.

    But I do equate it to being irrational, which is pretty friggin stooopid if you ask me.
    LC TerribleTroy says:

    You admit your bias but refuse to admit that the bias colors your perspective?

    Not exactly. In my field we are taught to examine our biases and whether or not they color our analysis. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don’t. That doesn’t make us incapable of making a rational assessment, but merely warns us to be aware of said bias when making it.

    LC TerribleTroy says:

    So I will ask you, what is the source of your self admitted bias? You going to tell me its not emotionally driven? Its all driven by pure logic?

    Of course it is! So what? I’m aware of it. However, said bias does not make my assessment of the GOP’s actions false. And actually, it has little to do with it. The question is about why the Republicans beat up on Akin and immediately condemned him. I gave you a pretty damn good (if I say so myself) analysis as to why, and I think given the current reality their actions made sense.

    Am I happy they dumped this dildo? Yeah.

    That doesn’t make my assessment wrong.

    LC TerribleTroy says:

    Like I wrote earlier, you wanted the guys head from word one primarily due to your emotional investment and that bias allows you justify the GOPs response and all other considerations are secondary.

    Actually, you’re wrong there. The only post I wrote about him was basically pointing out that he’s an asshat. I said nothing about him resigning, nor did I encourage him to do so. The only OTHER post I wrote about him was yesterday, when I did call on him to go away after every Republican and their mother asked him to take a hike. He’s doing the GOP no favors by sticking around, and frankly, he detracts from the REAL issues we should be discussing, which is what I have said here as well.

    You may disagree with my assessment of the GOP’s motives or my contention that nuking him early was the right thing to do, because of the reasons I stated above. But you cannot in good conscience tell me that I was irrationally driven by my emotions. If that’s the case, then so are a ton of others like Hannity, Coulter and others who also say that the current political reality made the GOP’s nuking of this guy the right thing to do. Are you really going to claim that they’re emotionally compromised as well? The fact that you disagree with my assessment doesn’t make me emotionally compromised or unable to make a rational analysis in this case. I made my analysis based on more than a decade of public affairs work, and NOT on my hatred of this guy.

    LC TerribleTroy says:

    We’ve interacted now for a couple of years. Which do you think I would do if I thought you were stupid, insinuate you were stupid or just say it outright?

    Good point. I don’t really think that you consider me an idiot. I’m just pointing out that when you imply I can’t even tell the difference between my own emotional bias in this case and actual factual assessments, it does seem that you’re either questioning my intellectual ability in this matter or my logical abilities.

    Nonetheless, my contention stands. You may disagree. But based on the political climate of today… based on recent history and the liberals’ ability to whip the idiots in this country into a frenzy about such things…. based on the liberals’ campaign to paint the GOP ticket as waging a “war on women,” they had to step back and nuke him at once. No ifs, ands, or buts. The Republicans have bigger things to worry about than Akin. He’s just one cog in their machine. So for them to throw themselves under the bus for this guy would have been stupid. They have bigger fish to fry.
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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Ya know, my initial reaction was to go back and fisk your comments and return the consideration. Then the lucid part of me realized it would be a waste of time. So I sincerly hope you have a great weekend and hope that in the future we will see eye to eye on other issues. In the meantime best wishes to you and yours.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I @ #:

    Do we really have to do the idiot left’s dirty work for them? If so, why?

    Yes, we do. Why? No enemies to the Left, no allies to the Right. We’re fighting for the middle here, pal.

    P.S. Can you send us some money?

    Love,
    Your GOP betters

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    LC TerribleTroy says:

    Ya know, my initial reaction was to go back and fisk your comments and return the consideration. Then the lucid part of me realized it would be a waste of time. So I sincerly hope you have a great weekend and hope that in the future we will see eye to eye on other issues. In the meantime best wishes to you and yours.

    Troy, you’re totally welcome to disagree with or fisk anything I’ve said. That’s what mature debate is about. I only use the fisking method, because my brain doesn’t always remember what I want to address, and I wound up sounding disjointed.

    I have no problem with debating or disagreeing. And have a great weekend as well.
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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Thanks Nikki. I appreciate the lattitude, but I’m going to pass. If ya get the chance, say hello to the blue ridge for me. I miss those mountains.

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    LC TerribleTroy says:

    Thanks Nikki. I appreciate the lattitude, but I’m going to pass. If ya get the chance, say hello to the blue ridge for me. I miss those mountains.

    I might head over there for a couple of hours this weekend to drop the shrimp off with his dad. It’s pretty out there, but it’s getting a LOT worse crime-wise. A friend of mine is a sheriff’s deputy out there. He said nearly EVERY crime he’s been investigating has something to do with drugs, and the drug of choice over there? Heroin. Pretty bad. When we lived there, it was pot and pills. I saw a lot of meth too. But heroin? Holy shit!

    I’m glad we got out when we did. :\

    Take care. I’m off to see the Expendables. :em01:
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    DJ Allyn growls and barks:

    When I first heard this Akins story I wasn’t surprised. But what DOES surprise me is the response of the Republican Party.

    Really? What exactly was it that Akins said that goes against the Party platform of no abortions for ANY reason?

    Was it because Republicans really don’t want this to be a topic prior to the election?

    Or is it because he actually said the most asinine thing that anyone could say, and that is that a woman’s body can shut down its reproductive system if invaded by hostile sperm? (now THAT is some powerful birth control if it wasn’t for the fact that it isn’t pure junk science coming from a state that has consistently scored lower than almost any other in science for the past decade or so. (this is the state that teaches that you can pray away an STD)

    Or could it be the close relationship that Akins has to VP candidate hopeful, Paul Ryan? Both wrote a bill that actually contains the words, “legitimate rape” in it. It was a proposed law that said that prior to a woman being granted permission for an abortion, she first had to “prove” her rape was “legitimate”. Kind of a problem when the Romney campaign seems to have a problem securing the women’s vote — which happens to be the largest constituency needed to win an election. This isn’t something that is lost on the vote counters in both Parties.
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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    Here’s where I get really frosted at the GOP establishment. It flows from this mantra:

    We hate conservatives more than liberals.

    If I were in the GOP leadership, I’d issue the following press release about the whole Akin mess:

    “Congressman Akin’s statement reflects a muddled and unfortunate attempt to address the problem of abortion in America. Congressman Akin has apologized for his remark and offered clarification. We consider the matter closed.

    While Democrats in this country try to focus the attention of the American People on the misstatements of a Congressman, the Republican Party is focused on the abysmal record of our President: record unemployment, higher taxes, skirting the Constitution, violating the religious liberties of churches and organizations, destroying our healthcare, and budget deficits as far as the eyes can see.

    If the Press wants to discover real offensive speech, we recommend looking at the many gaffes of the President and his running mate. Mr. Obama downplayed the accomplishments of entrepreneurs in our country saying, “You didn’t build that.” Mr. Biden offensively accused the Republican Party of wanting to put African-Americans back in chains. Neither the President nor Mr. Biden offered retractions or serious clarification of their offensive language.

    The Republican Party believes America deserves better than the Obama record. That’s why our focus remains underscoring the failed policies of this President and forwarding the positive solutions put forward by our candidates running for public office throughout the country.”

    But I’m not a Republican in leadership. I’m just a simple chaplain who loves America…especially our military members and those who support them.

    -Jim+