How apropos that we threw together the below ShopJob a little over 24 hours ago. It goes PERFECTLY with the idiocy being exposed over at Rev. Anthony’s WUWT. As we’ve been screaming since the Moronic Marxists™ mandated that we start wasting perfectly good food by turning into fuel:
F.E.T.E.
PS: As always, please leave the “colorful invective” over here and NOT at WUWT. Thanks.
Speaking of debacles, another of NASA’s “GLORY” global warming research satellites met a watery fate. I wonder what kind of ‘carbon footprint” that left…… NASA research satellite plunges into the sea Between the “cornholing” we’re getting with this ethanol fiasco and the all the taxpayer money getting dumped into the “GLORY hole”, we’re getting royally screwed. And yes, the lame… Read more »
Nothing wrong with ethanol, but it’s for
, not use as a motor fuel.
VonZorch, precisely.
Ethanol has become another form of government crack that addicts Americans, in this case farmers. The government gives farmers a guaranteed price for a bushel of corn so now they are basically welfare queens. Why grow anything else and take the risk that the bottom could fall out when you have Uncle Sugar guaranteeing you a price that’s usually above… Read more »
Light29ID says: The government gives farmers a guaranteed price for a bushel of corn so now they are basically welfare queens. Well Im thinking this year some of those “queens” may be regretting going the “government” route. Corn was trading at 7 dollars a bushel a month or so ago. I believe the normal rate was 4 dollars. Given that… Read more »
Signs that you may have run your engine on contaminated e10 fuel:
Stalling, hesitation, inability to start engine; Vapor lock or fuel starvation; Corrosion and rusting of engine parts; Clogging of fuel and water separator filters; Piston/bore failure through knock/pre-ignition; Damaged fuel pump; Reduced octane symptoms;
EAT CORN, DONT BURN IT
How much money does it take to save money?
To burn e10, alllllll ya gotta do is,,,,, WHAT?
But hey, if you think oil prices are high now, take ethanol out of the equation and see how high it goes. Won’t budge a bit. E10 is MANDATED to be added into our gasoline. That’s an extra cost that’s already figured into the cost of gas, due to the need for the production, handling and transportation of the additive.… Read more »
Engine damage by Ethanol
http://www.fuel-testers.com/list_e10_engine_damage.html
Under the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act, the U.S. must use 11.1 billion gallons of ethanol in 2010, rising to 36 billion by 2022. Industry observers have consistently suggested that production of such a high volume of ethanol may not even be possible, whether or not it may be good policy. E85, the fuel that has 85 percent ethanol,… Read more »
Response to LC TerribleTroy @: They don’t have a choice. Once they sign up for the subsidy they’re locked in to the price and are forbidden to sell their corn to anybody else (the Feds and the farmer agree to provide x number of bushels) but to the government at the set price (free market my hairy ass). Even if… Read more »
Okay, car guys…question. My Subie is only about three years old. As much as possible I try to stay away from ethanol. All the specs say is that the gas should be 87+ octane. Am I ruining my engine by NOT using ethanol? Is my engine formulated to work better with ethanol?
Screw ethanol. The answer is butanol.
I’ll leave the fisking to our benevolent Emperor and the Imperial Council who need to make up hours in their paychecks
for the month. As for me, back to Uncle JB.
Hey DJ – you still have not explained how burning 1-1.5 gallons of petroleum products to produce -1- gallon of ethanol is somehow a net gain? 10 gallons of regular gasoline is…. 10 gallons of gasoline( plus the costs of manufacture.) 10 gallons of E10 is…. 9 gallons of gasoline, plus a gallon of ethanol, plus the 1-1.5 gallons of… Read more »
Here’s the whole chart, Rogue.
Thorough breakdown of the energy potentials versus compositions.
And see, alcohol does have other, better functions! Like putting in an edit function for when fumble fingers miss a key!
Not to mention, “The Apostrophe”…
“He told me nonono
I told him yesyesyes
I said I do it all the time,,
Ain’t this boogie a mess!”
“The poodle bites, the poodle chews it…”
You can eat corn. You cant eat gas. Nuff said.
Just how many of those hallowed “Ethanol Jobs” are sucsidized by the Feds, DJ? The whole damned boondoggle has made food prices jump all over the place! In the Middle East, food prices are one of the core reasons people are in the streets hollering and shouting, prices are going up everywhere they look, all for the conversion of a… Read more »
DJ – nice answer, but that’s not the question I asked.
1. What is the cost, in terms of petrochemicals ( i.e. Diesel and Gasoline ) to make 1 gallon of ethanol?
Funny how the people who get the most corn are the one’s that pay for it,, that’s,,,just,,, soooo,,, un-progressive!
One idea keeps nagging at me. With the current level of bio-engineering, why not splice the glucose
producing genes from sugar-cane into field corn?
Then we could have a grain-crop, and a sugary biomass crop all in one, and it could grow in temperate
climates, unlike sugar-cane.
If all this damned ethanol was really necessary and if there was a true grassroots demand for it, it wouldn’t need all these Federal Tax dollars HANDED OUT to the industry!! It was tried, and it’s a failure, just like many other things tried out and mismanaged by the Federal government!! “Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons… Read more »
The ITW: Gladiator says: BTW- sugarbeets produce far more BTUs than corn, but guess who wont let us import them from South America?? The sugar industry lobbyists? Not quite–it’s their pals in Congre$$ who have the power to distort markets with gov’t intervention. I remember when cigarettes were 25 cents a pack. Nowadays it’s mostly tax anyway, right? Paying more… Read more »
Precisely! Vice-Perpetrator Bite-me said so!
FIFY