An Inconvenient Truth
Inconvenient, that is, if you’re a liberal fascist gun-grabber
:Friday’s horrible shooting in Colorado occurred in yet another place where guns are banned. And that’s consistent with a trend: With a single exception, every multiple-victim public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms. [Emphasis ours -- Emp.M]
Now go forth and read the whole thing, for it is good.
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Thanks for the heads up My Liege
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Staggering stats – Shoots the whole “common sense gun laws” argument right in the ass….
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Exactly.
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Common Sense Gun Laws
1. US Constitution Bill of Rights, Second Ammendment.
‘Nuff said.
Please. That has “statistical clustering” written all over it!
(Big ol’ Sarc tag here)
Criminals may be vicious, but they’re not stupid. Back in my LE days, we shot a few armed robbers from stakeout. Amazing how robberies plummeted after that.
I have a stoopid question. Were guns “banned” by the owners of the Theater chain, or is it Colorado law that they cannot be carried in a theater?
I ask because I mostly ignore the “no handguns” signs and unless the gun “prints” nobody or his dog knows I’m carrying. It’s not against the law in Washington state to carry in these places, it’s just that they can ask you to leave. It’s most certainly NOT against the law, the only places you can’t carry is Fed, State, or jails and other venues as specifically stated thusly:
Carry Restrictions
Washington defines a number of places you cannot carry:
• Any place where carrying firearms is prohibited by federal law
• Public or private elementary or secondary school premises, school-provided transportation, or areas/facilities while being used exclusively by public or private schools (CRW 9.41.280)
• On the site of an “outdoor music festival” (CRW 70.108.150) ((Gee, I wonder why?))
• Restricted access areas of a jail, or of a law enforcement facility, or any place used for the confinement of a person (CRW 9.41.300)
• Areas in any building which are used in connection with court proceedings, including courtrooms, jury rooms, judge’s chambers, offices, etc. (CRW 9.41.300)
• The restricted access areas of a public mental health facility certified by the department of social and health services for inpatient hospital care and state institutions for the care of the mentally ill, excluding those facilities solely for evaluation and treatment (CRW 9.41.300)
• Any portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age (CRW 9.41.300)
NOWHERE do I see businesses, theaters, etc. mentioned. Even my church says not to carry, and I ignore that as well. Why? Read the papers (ignore the drooling anti-gun idiots).
Therefore, I am not breaking the law when I ignore them. Would I be doing so in Colorado, I wonder??
Sign at the cinema says no guns. Franchise has no guns policy
Fat lot of good that did.
Igor, Imperial Booby says:
The theater chain has a no guns policy, but I’ve heard (have not corroborated) that Aurora itself bans concealed carry. I guess Colorado doesn’t have a preemption statute. So if that’s true, it went beyond just the theater. CCW’s would be violating a city ordinance, so even those who (rightly) ignore the “gun free utopia” signs would have been deterred from carrying. A true sheep pen waiting for the slaughter.
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Only in Denver and Denver County is your CCW permit useless, because the city council says “WE know what’s best for OUR people ’cause WE’RE local.” Which gives the theater owner an out. (“Ve were only followink orders.”)
Sorta reminds you of that smug VA Tech president sonofabitch being so happy about keeping CCW people off his campus before the massacre.
John Lott is the Joe McCarthy of the firearms arena. He’s been putting the facts into rows and columns for decades, much to the dismay of the gfw’s. He doesn’t argue philosophy, ‘just points to the latent spatter.
Check his stuff out wherever you see it.
Igor
“I have a stoopid question. Were guns “banned” by the owners of the Theater chain, or is it Colorado law that they cannot be carried in a theater?”
I was reading an article about the situation in Aurora on another site and one of the commentators posted a section of law from Aurora. Apparently the city itself does have an ordinance/law saying that you cannot carry in places that post a no firearms sign. That being the case, if no preemptive statute exists as Crunchie says, you would be violating the law. Now I am curious to find out if Montana has a preemptive statue.
The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn’t hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.
Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder
i guess Snopes took the wind out of that senator story, plus it’s two years old… please disregard.
In Texas, an establishment can put up a ‘No Guns Allowed” sign. HOWEVER, it has to meet the State requirement.
Otherwise, it holds as much credit as a Buffalo nickel. Another relatively unknown fact is that if you enter an establishment with the sign, and you are found to be carrying you will be asked to leave. If you do, no harm no foul. If you do not, it is a trespassing violation and not a weapons violation.
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Fa Cube Itches says:
Whenever you hear “statistical clustering” mentioned, you can replace it with “The good grace of the faeries” and be just as scientific. All statistical clustering means is there is a factor we do not know or refuse to take into account.
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LC 0311 Sir Crunchie I.M.H., K.o.E. @ #: 9
Did some checking, Aurora does have an ordinance banning carrying of dangerous weapons, but this is not enforceable if you have a valid concealed carry permit (Colorado accepts resident permits from most states).
However the city does have a prohibition on discharge of firearms. It has exceptions for law enforcement officers on duty, and at firing ranges, but not for lawful defense of self or others.
Colorado does have pre-emption. I could not find any direct information, but many states with pre-emption laws do allow local regulation of firearms discharge. Oregon for instance does pre-empt firearms laws but allows local discharge regulation, but state law includes an override that allows for lawful defense and formal or improvised ranges.
VonZorch has stolen some of my thunder, but this theater gun prohibition meme has been irritating the piss out of me. As a Colorado resident & CCW holder, I can tell you that John Lott has his head so far up his arse that he’s choking on his own shite.
Here in Colorado, “no guns” signs do NOT have the force of law. Those of us who carry are aware of that, and routinely ignore those signs. The most important initials in CCW or CHL are the first in each: CONCEALED.
Post-Columbine, the State of Colorado has adopted, in my opinion, quite reasonable parameters re: gun rights v. gun control. State law authorizes Denver to declare State buildings gun-free zones, for example. But ONLY of all entrances are controlled and public entrances equipped with metal detectors staffed with armed guards. Absent those precautions, I am entitled to carry my .38 into any state building.
A business owner can declare that his premises are gun free, but unless he pats me down as I walk in the door, the declaration is meaningless.
Seems a local “news” station found out what nut boy was wearing. That be some nice “body armor”.