Don’t Mess With Texas… Or Iowahawk, For That Matter

We have this strange love-hate relationship to anybody taking a dump on the Republic of Texas.

Hate, obviously, because you must have a death wish if you piss on the Lone Star within 800 yards of His Imperial Majesty, and love because their trying to micturate on us invariably ends up with the same results as trying to do so on an electrical fence, and we find watching damnyankees getting their already shriveled members electrocuted highly enjoyable.

Such as when the New York Times resident mental case, Paul “ENRON Advisor” Krugman thought he was going to town by comparing the overall results of Texan students with those of Wisconsin and using that as an argument in favor of teacher unions. You know, “apples to oranges.” You take a state almost entirely made up of lily-white waspies and compare them to a state where diversity isn’t just a slogan.

And then Iowahawk takes it completely apart because he, unlike the highly paid former ENRON consultant Paul Cluckman apparently hasn’t quite figured out Google yet in his padded cell.

Go read it, in case you’re interested in actual facts. You’ll enjoy it.

Let’s just say that the conclusions that can be gleaned from the facts don’t quite support Cluckman’s retarded claims. In fact, they do quite the opposite.

Thatisall.

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DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 06:00

I put Iowahawk’s column up at the OT forum at Rotten Tomatoes. There’s a long thread in there where I’ve been arguing with progressives about Wisconsin, and yep, that ‘factoid du jour’ from The Economist has been posted in that thread 3 or 4 times. Can’t wait to see what they do with it: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?p=19018155#post19018155 I post there as ‘Conan’… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
March 3, 2011 07:32

OK, I’m pissed. Work blocks Iowahawk. :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96:

LC Draco
LC Draco
March 3, 2011 08:10

LC Nicki…not to worry. I am sure it will still be available when you get home.

And it IS worth the read! :em02:

Lizard, G.L.O.R.
Lizard, G.L.O.R.
March 3, 2011 08:53

Glad someone went and blew that use of bad data out of the water. What they keep hoping is that no one notices that the ACT and SAT are VOLUNTARY tests that YOU PAY TO TAKE for college entrance. Only 37% of MPS students take the ACT and SAT, whereas the maditory tests give a more accurate picture. Look the… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
March 3, 2011 10:36

LC Draco says: LC Nicki…not to worry. I am sure it will still be available when you get home. And it IS worth the read! I know, but I’m impatient, and I want it NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW! Especially since we just had a power outage, and it fried my video card on my other system, so I can’t… Read more »

DaToad
DaToad
March 3, 2011 13:02

Iowahawk! Gotta love that guy…

I am so glad my daughter went to school grade school in Texas rather than CA. (finished HS in AZ)

And last, I do hope someone shoves the real facts up Krugman’s mudhole.

LC TerribleTroy
LC TerribleTroy
March 3, 2011 13:56

Response to LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @:

Well since your systems are down, might I suggest using your smurt phone to view IowaHawks page while on “break’. And yes I do recall your occupation and understand that you may have to leave your “device” in your vehicle, but seeing as your systems are down…. :em93:

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 15:09

And now, another exciting update from the teacher service records for 2010 in the state of Illinois. Remember, DJ told me to use my ‘common sense’ when it came to a drivers ed. instructor at a high school pulling in over $164K in base salary in a single year. How’s my common sense functioning now, DJ? Be sure to let… Read more »

LC TerribleTroy
LC TerribleTroy
March 3, 2011 16:07

Response to DarthBane @:

Dont expect to hear anything but chirping crickets. DJ is notorious (not that you dont know this already) for avoiding “inconvenient” questions.

Lizard, G.L.O.R.
Lizard, G.L.O.R.
March 3, 2011 16:28

LC TerribleTroy says: Response to DarthBane @: Dont expect to hear anything but chirping crickets. DJ is notorious (not that you dont know this already) for avoiding “inconvenient” questions. He was not answering my question because he did not want to offend me, but then said I needed to stop listening to sound bytes when I provided actually facts. Still… Read more »

irish19
irish19
March 3, 2011 19:19

DarthBane says: And now, another exciting update from the teacher service records for 2010 in the state of Illinois. Remember, DJ told me to use my ‘common sense’ when it came to a drivers ed. instructor at a high school pulling in over $164K in base salary in a single year. How’s my common sense functioning now, DJ? Be sure… Read more »

VonZorch Imperial Researcher
VonZorch Imperial Researcher
March 3, 2011 20:05

Response to irish19 @:
Line or record numbers, from the database.

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 20:10

You can, if you have Microsoft Excel, d/l the spreadsheet from here: http://www.isbe.state.il.us/research/htmls/teacher_service_record.htm You want the one that says ‘Instructional Staff Only’. There are over 138,000 individual lines in it. I put the line number first to make it easier to let people who think common sense means a drivers ed. instructor can’t be making over $160,000 in base salary… Read more »

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 21:28

Now IowaHawk did a heckuva job comparing Texas public schools to Wisconsin’s by ethnicity, showing that Texas came out ahead in 17 of 18 comparisons of White. Black and Hispanic 4th and 8th grade tests in Reading, Math and Science. So……how does Texas stack up against Illnois? Illinois spends over $1.8 billion a year in compensation for just 14,000 of… Read more »

Cortillaen
Cortillaen
March 3, 2011 21:55

Anyone else notice that, while whites and Hispanics in Wisconsin fall on both sides of the national average, blacks are below the average in every category? Hmm…

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 22:02

Addendum to the above post:

COLLECTIVE BARGAINING HAS FUCK-ALL TO DO WITH THE KIDS. Remember that the next time some assclown like Paul Krugman or a writer at The Economist tries to tell you that.

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 22:04

My new motto:

TEXAS. WINNING LIKE AN F-18, BRO!

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 22:07

Cortillaen says:

Anyone else notice that, while whites and Hispanics in Wisconsin fall on both sides of the national average, blacks are below the average in every category? Hmm…

And notice Texan 4th and 8th graders, whether Hispanic, White, or Black, don’t fall below the national average in ANY category.

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 3, 2011 23:52

BTW, I put up that post on Texas vs. Iowa at Rotten Tomatoes in the OT forum and naturally the progressives that hang out there went bat-shit. Here’s a nice response it got: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=2264617&page=26 That’s because the fucked-up testing regimen that these results came from are hold-overs from Bush-era No Child Left Behind, which was developed in Texas and had… Read more »

lc purple raider
lc purple raider
March 4, 2011 00:21

Response to DarthBane @:

Gosh, you would think all that salary would give a high quality education. But here in Illinois, most of the people have to have remedial training to flip burgers. Yep, the government-owned schools of Illinois are turning out a bunch of illiterate students.

Reason #1 why I homeschool my son.

LC Draco
LC Draco
March 4, 2011 07:15

This pretty much sums up how I feel about public schools!!!

Sorry..I just find the site funny as hell!!

Lizard, G.L.O.R.
Lizard, G.L.O.R.
March 4, 2011 12:27

DarthBane says: BTW, I put up that post on Texas vs. Iowa at Rotten Tomatoes in the OT forum and naturally the progressives that hang out there went bat-shit. Here’s a nice response it got: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=2264617&page=26 That’s because the fucked-up testing regimen that these results came from are hold-overs from Bush-era No Child Left Behind, which was developed in Texas… Read more »

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 4, 2011 13:39

My reply to reply from the raging libtard: ACT/SAT’s are taken for college entrance. The purpose of NCLB was to try to pin down near to what level were the American public schools underperforming in each state in preparing students for college. As long as all you had to go by was SAT scores, it didn’t tell you much about… Read more »

LC Draco
LC Draco
March 4, 2011 13:57

Response to DarthBane @: OUCH!!! Having grandparents and parents that were teachers (mom was middle school Earth Science for 20+ yrs and father taught Pharmacology at a major university…), they all hated the collective bargaining. But then again….they all taught in Texas. ‘Never ask a man if he is from Texas, if he is…he’ll let you know. If he isn’t…no… Read more »

LC Draco
LC Draco
March 4, 2011 13:59

Sorry….I meant they all hated the IDEA of collective bargaining….would love to have that ‘edit’ function back!! :em93:

lc purple raider
lc purple raider
March 4, 2011 14:14

And now from the newsroom of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal,
your Milwaukee area teachers and their $100,000 average compensation.

DarthBane
DarthBane
March 4, 2011 16:07

How many teachers are in that area? Because in Illinois, they have 14,000+ pulling in $100,000+ in base salary, not including their benefits.

Lizard, G.L.O.R.
Lizard, G.L.O.R.
March 4, 2011 16:22

lc purple raider says:

And now from the newsroom of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal,
your Milwaukee area teachers and their $100,000 average compensation.

I gotta believe that the powers that be at the Urinal Sentinel worked long and hard to try and disprove the facts and am shocked that they actually printed the article.

lc purple raider
lc purple raider
March 4, 2011 16:55

Response to DarthBane @: Gosh, you would think all that salary would give a high quality education. But here in Illinois, most of the people have to have remedial training to flip burgers. Yep, the government-owned schools of Illinois are turning out a bunch of illiterate students. Reason #1 why I homeschool my son. Response to Lizard, G.L.O.R. @: I… Read more »

Lizard, G.L.O.R.
Lizard, G.L.O.R.
March 4, 2011 17:04

lc purple raider says: Response to DarthBane @: Gosh, you would think all that salary would give a high quality education. But here in Illinois, most of the people have to have remedial training to flip burgers. Yep, the government-owned schools of Illinois are turning out a bunch of illiterate students. Reason #1 why I homeschool my son. Response to… Read more »

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper
March 4, 2011 20:08

Response to Emperor Misha I @:

:em93: :damn, no thumbs up smilie:

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
March 4, 2011 23:17

Emperor Misha I says: That’d be CAPITAL. I’ve only ever seen pictures from up there, but I have a feeling that I’d completely fall in love with the beauty of it. We’d have to stop by Jaybear’s house for some guitar-riffing too, though. Doors always open and guitars are always tuned…… Oh, and the Garand is cleaned and oiled. I… Read more »

BC, Imperial Torturer
Admin
BC, Imperial Torturer
March 5, 2011 16:11

Wow, DJ, that sounds almost EXACTLY like Florida. I guess the plague of “transplantitis idioticus” is more widespread than the CDC is willing to admit.

:em72: :em72: :em72: :em72:

Elephant Man
Elephant Man
March 5, 2011 17:35

I would like to start my own drive — to round up any transplant that hasn’t been here for at least two generations, and send them back to where they came from. I’d let them visit, but one at a time, and only after the outsider before them vacates the state. Where’s sasquatch when you need him…. I only mention… Read more »

BC, Imperial Torturer
Admin
BC, Imperial Torturer
March 5, 2011 18:11

Where’s sasquatch when you need him….

She’s sleeping in the White House these days and her husband can usually be found haunting various golf courses around the country.

:em01: :em99: :em41: :em99:

Elephant Man
Elephant Man
March 5, 2011 18:27

She’s sleeping in the White House these days and her husband can usually be found haunting various golf courses around the country.

Except when her husband’s golfing/vacationing in Florida :em99: