The Latest In the Unending Stream of Bullshit About the Zimmerman Battery
This is the type of Stooopidity that passes for “journalism” down here in Palm Beach County Manhattan South. His name is Frank Cerabino (He’s quick to point out that it’s pronounced Cher-a-been-o, or some shit like that) and he is the epitome of the old Marine adage about Canoe U grads. They’re either the smartest, most honorable and best leaders you will have the honor to serve under, or they are the dumbest self serving hypocritical pieces of shit you’ll ever scrape off the bottom of your boot. Chubby graduated the Prick Factory in ’77, at the height of the militaries decline. With junior officers like him it’s a miracle the naval service survived at all. Now, on to the buillshittery.
In war zones, shooters must use restraint: In Florida, fire away!
And he starts off strong out the gate with sarcasm AND condescension! A real multitasker this one I tells ya.
Here’s a simple observation.
You’re an arrogant twat flap. But we already knew that so please do continue, I’m all a twitter with anticipation.
Florida residents with gun permits shouldn’t be encouraged to use their weapons more carelessly than U.S. troops in war zones.
What is this “gun permit” to which you refer? If you mean the concealed weapons license issued to over 900,000 law abiding citizens then I need to re-read my instructors manual, because I totally missed the block of instruction where I was to encourage my students to carelessly use their weapons. Damn, I sure hope I don’t owe my students any refunds.
Maybe that’s something to consider when the state reviews its 2005 stand-your-ground gun law, which allows the nearly 900,000 concealed weapons permit holders in Florida to use lethal force in public confrontations if they feel they are in danger of “great bodily harm” or death.
Actually it allows ALL law abiding citizens that right cuntmiffin, but seeing as you have such a raging erection for all the evil gun toters here in the “Gunshine State”, I can see where you could be easily confused. Well that and the fact you’re a dumbass.
And what’s with the quotation marks” around great bodily harm? Do you think that permanent disfigurement or disability is a snide joke or something? C’mon over ol’ buddy ol’ pal and let me crack a few jokes with ya.
One of those permit holders, Sanford neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, is invoking the state law in hopes of exonerating his actions seven weeks ago when he shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, during a street confrontation.
He is? And you know this how? I ask because I haven’t heard anything from Zimmerman about it. It’s almost as if he’s been in hiding or something. Sort of like a bunch of irresponsible, rating whore, “journalists ” have been busy lying, jumping to conclusions, and persecuting him without all the facts just to push an agenda, all the way until a bunch of commie racists put a hit out on him. Nah, that can’t be it. Just another one of those unsolved mysteries I guess.
“You’ve got a radical law in Florida,” said Jon Soltz, the chairman of VoteVets.org, a political action group of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans.
Yes, that Jon Soltz. Those of you who know the name can stop rolling your eyes, you didn’t really expect a liberal asshat to consult Davbid Bellavia or Gunny Popaditch now didja? Those who don’t know Soltz, grab a beer and look at his impressive resume of megadouchebaggery here.
Soltz hadn’t been aware of Florida’s stand-your-ground law until the
Martin killingThink Progress and MoRon.org told him to start parroting the talking points.- fixed it for ya Chubby, no need to thank me, just doing the job your editors won’t – crunch
And Soltz, who has completed two combat tours in Iraq as an Army officer, said it surprised him that Florida would have such a reckless gun law.
“It’s ironic to people in the military,” Soltz said. “The bottom line is that the law in Florida provides more protection to the shooter than the military’s rules of engagement do.”
First off, Soltz does not now, and never has, spoke for anyone in the military other than the half a dozen or so REMF’s in your lefty sham “veteran” organization. Secondly, there is an ironic truth in that statement and it ain’t what Soltz or Chubby is getting at. Maybe the DoD needs to take a real good look at Florida’s use of force statute. It might learn a thing or two.
Soltz said the military is especially cognizant of the problems that the rash use of lethal force presents in a war zone.
“The rules of engagement are there because you can’t just blow people away,” he said. “You kill the wrong person and it’s on the nightly news.
Gee, that would NEVER happen here! Not with our esteemed Fourth Estate Fifth Column populated by erstwhile propagators of journalistic integrity as Frank Chubby it won’t!
“That’s the issue we had with civilian contractors,” he said. “They were walking around Iraq with weapons and killing people, and it was hurting us.”
Still beating that dead Blackwater horse ain’t ya. I guess penis envy never really does go away.
To minimize needless killing of civilians in war zones, the military uses a system of graduated force, he said.
“You don’t just shoot because you think your life’s in danger,” Soltz said.
If you’re approached by somebody in what may be a potentially hostile situation, you shout a warning to stop. If that doesn’t work, you show the person your weapon. If that doesn’t work, you physically restrain or shove the person. If that doesn’t work, you fire your weapon, first as a warning shot, then to kill if necessary.
I’ll just let that steaming pile of shit ferment awhile.
The graduated level of force is known as the “4 S’s”: Shout. Show. Shove. Shoot.
There are a lot of “S’s” there alright, and they are all preceded by Bull.
Compare that with Florida’s law, in which there’s no stated requirement for the gun owner to use his or her gun prudently.
Florida’s law can be boiled down to just 2 S’s:
Scared? Shoot.
And your IQ can be boiled down to just two digits. What a cuntmuffin.
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Stoltz didn’t get the memo: Due to the rising cost of ammo’,, no warning shots anymore..
All I can say about this is if the rules of engagement that our armed forces are using do not allow for self defense during a violent confrontation initiated by the other party, then these rules of engagement are fucked, and the commander in chief should have a red hot poker shoved up his ass for allowing them to stand.
This fucking idiot Cerabino has just crapped his pants for all to see with this asshattery, and should slink back to whatever refrigerator carton he is living in and return to sucking his thumb. Read some of the comments to his story at Crunchie’s first link. Looks like he’s taking a well-deserved beating.
This situation is going to require close attention, because the left will attempt to exploit it in many ways, starting with turd-collectors like this guy.
The civilian’s ROE is different
“Second Amendment”
“Shall not be infringed”
“Shoot when threatened”
“See wife and family again”
He missed one.
Send soldier home in bodybag.
Since Frank is so keen on allegedly citing military doctrine/rules of engagement, how about us having access to military weapons? How about it, Frank? Nice full auto 7.62 by 39 sounds about right. And how or why the fuck would you want to get close enough to a guy that might want to kill you to simply shove him???????
What an asshole!
Two, Crunch? You are in a benevolent mood tonight, aren’t you?
Cerobeeno is clearly lacking cerebellum and cerebrum. Still, glad to see that someone who is that much of a douchebag wholly eschews self-defense. He won’t respond to a reasonable threat of grave bodily harm or death with any significant force, it seems. Easy pickin’s for any thug. Hopefully there also won’t be any ccw holder or neighborhood watch person around to help him when it happens.
Two?
That’s way overestimating it, don’cha think, Crunch?
Damn, Cave beat me to it.
Actually, Mr. Zimmerman will be judged by 12 men!
And it will be better than be carried by 6!
IIRC we used to have three: (three shins in Hebrew) Shoot, shovel & shut up.
Brother Crunch adds yet another name on the list of those Voted Most Likely To Be A Sniper Hit.
And the requisite man parts as well, I assume.
I guess he can’t fathom the difference between a soldier in a war zone and a suburban dweller walking around the block with his wife.
My personal ROE were much more simple: Kill them all and let allah sort them out. We assumed that ANYONE coming to our AO, without letting us know in advance, was hostile. I had 32 technicians and 4 security police to protect a bunch of expensive assets. I was not going to let them get close enough to see the whites of their eyes.
Suuuuuure, you imbecile, let the guy get to within knife-fighting range and give him a shove. Suuuuuure…
I was taught: “Halt. Halt! HALT!!” followed by the sound of the round exiting the barrel.
Nowadays, I omit the “Halt. Halt! HALT!!” portion of the program.
While I hope I never have to draw a weapon, if I do draw on you I fully intend to shoot your ass.
So Frank Cerabino went to Canoe U? Was that so he could become a nasty little cabin boy?
Xystus – that is the Sicilian methodology.
And any Army officer who allows an unknown to get close enough to his personnel to be in “shoving” range is out of his fucking mind, and fully deserves to … er… have an “accident”.
Igor – I’ll buy one “halt” – then … well… My guys get to go home.
Awwww, Crunch! You used “cuntmuffin!” I’m honored and humbled.
There was some other libtarded vaginal wart by the name of Jon Soltz at VetVoice – the veteran version of Commondreams.org – who was blithering about the same thing recently.
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And that’s what I get for not reading all the way, and just simmering at the top part. Sorry. I’m an ass. The Soltz article got me so pissed, I wanted to throw things.
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LC HJ Caveman82952 says:
Well, he didn’t say they would be POSITIVE digits, did he?
I first heard about the 3 halts when my brother was on the USS James Monroe. He said that when standing watch topside they were supposed to say that 3 times then take the .45, load the clip and chamber a round. I guess they were allowed to shoot after that if necessary.
His version was demonstrated on a harbor pilot once that refused a wave off. He stepped on the deck to the first “halt.” My brother said that as he said that he already had the .45 and clip in hand. When he said it the second time, the clip went in. The third time the harbor pilot heard the slide snap forward and stopped to look at my brother who told him, “Take one more step and you’ll go down that hatch head first!”
The harbor pilot asked him a little later if he would have really shot him. His reply was, “Sir, probably more than once.”
That is more risk to life than I would ever want to be in. I would likely have shot him on the third halt for good measure. But, if the military’s ROE are much worse than that in a war zone, just court martial me now of put me in front of the firing squad already. FFS! The idea that I would have to let someone get close enough to stick a knife in me just so I could shove him before I was allowed to exterminate the sack of camel shit? Fuck that.
LC Xystus says:
Backhoes are better than shovels.
Just saying…
Mark, the problem with a backhoe is that sometimes the neighbors notice. Unless you own it and have a large enough piece of property that it isn’t going to attract attention. I remember a guy trying to hide his wife’s body that way some years back and got caught because someone noticed him using it in his yard around the time she disappeared.
“The graduated level of force is known as the “4 S’s”: Shout. Show. Shove. Shoot”
In good ol’ Oklahoma USA you can SHOUT all you want,
SHOW your weapon without firing you’ve committed a misdemeanor if I’m not mistaken.
SHOVE ‘em that’s battery.
Better to just skip to the end and only have one story.
When I was downrange, it was “Hostile Act, Hostile Intent.” We were always told, “your right to self defense and the defense of your comrades comes first.” And we sure as hell never shot anybody who didn’t either shoot at us first, or try to shoot at us first. So old boy is full of shit.
This is totally mind-boggling:
What the fuck?
“You don’t just shoot because you think your life’s in danger,” Soltz said.
You don’t? Then just when the fuck WOULD you shoot, you driveling, drooling dimwit? When you’re already dead?
Besides, look every single UOF regulation I know of and you will find that that is EXACTLY when you’re authorized to shoot. Actually, “fear of severe injury” qualifies as well, and injuries don’t get any more severe than “dead.”
My advice to punks, thugs and assorted other worthless wastes of protoplasm?
Don’t ever, EVER make me worry that you’re about to do me grievous harm.
You’ll live longer that way.
(Great take-down, by the way. Definitely a Crunchie Classic worthy of the Imperial Order of the ClueBat with Oak Leaves
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as a young paratrooper in viet nam i learned that the rules of engagement are there are no rules other than shoot or through a grenade at anything or any one that looks bad.these two sound like ass hole remfs to me sorta like live shot kerry or that murtha jerk.i have no use for o2 thieves like them or the liar in chief and all around commie traitor what all of them need is a trial then a traitors reward.
Guys, some may view this as OT, but relating to a soldier and what is being done for him. You know how I feel, and I have a good idea how you do…….
Over time I have greatly diminished the charities I will support, Disabled American Vets, Wounded Warriors, Soldiers Angels, The Salvation Army and March of Dimes complete my list.
Until now……………
I recall one time on Tapline Road at the intersection of British Routes Horse and Scorpion, there was a Brit manufacture Egyptian 5-ton approaching against crossing traffic. Mind you, the Egyptians were allies in GWI, but these three guys weren’t slowing or stopping. I gave them the “Halt palm up, no response. Again, no response. Rolled the M16A2 w/M203 attachment off my shoulder in a sort of reverse Queen Anne salute that leaves the rifle at one handed High Port and my finger on the trigger and thumb on the fire selector switch. Takes about .3 seconds, BTW. Gave them the “halt” hand again. White eyes against the windshield as the 5-ton skidded to a halt.
Special Ed says:
Who’d a’ thought, such a little tube could offset such inertia.