Hey, Hyperbole is OUR Shtick!

We have to agree with our good friend Mike.

Nothing encapsulates and exposes the ridiculous hyperventilating and Hitler comparisons of the liberal fascist goons of Wisconsin better than this mocking headline:

First They Came For The Right To Retire After 30 Years On Full Salary With COLAs.

Remember: If there is one thing that grand-standing, self-righteous liberals can’t STAND it’s ridicule.

Which makes you wonder why they so consistently make themselves such great and easy targets for it.

Oh, and what happened to The New Civility™?

Speaking of which: There’s something somebody mentioned, though we can’t for the life of us remember where we saw it, and that is this: If you were a Wisconsin parent and you saw one of your children’s teachers carrying a “Walker=Hitler” sign or, worse still, one of the other signs observed up there in the past few days, a sign with Governor Walker’s face with a crosshair superimposed over it (New Civility™ alert again), wouldn’t it be your civic duty, in light of all of this Zero Tolerance stuff going on and, well, here it comes again, The New Civility™, to contact your local superintendent and demand that said teacher be suspended without pay immediately pending a psychiatric review?

We mean, we currently have kids suspended indefinitely from their education because they share Tic-Tacs in school or draw pictures of dead people.

Wouldn’t you be more worried, shouldn’t you be more worried about your child’s teacher having murderous fantasies about a legally elected government official while thinking that asking teachers to contribute to their own health care plans is exactly the same as gassing six million Jews and starting a World War?

We mean, really now?

It’s one thing that the pathologically insane can’t be kept in asylums anymore because keeping them from eating the brains of law-abiding citizens is somehow a violation of their Constitutional rights, but do you really want them teaching your kids?

We’re just asking, is all.

Thatisall.

45 comments

  1. 1
    LC Draco growls and barks:

    To include in the new Civility…FoxNews just commented that a (the) superintendent, (1) had his tires slashed, and (2) someone showed up at his MOTHER’S house demanding to see her.

    I would have to change the rounds in my shot-gun to something a little bit closer to double-00!! :em96:

    And FOIST!!!

  2. 2
    Grammar Czar growls and barks:

    The purpose of public schools has never been to educate our children; it’s to indoctrinate them. I wonder how many teachers know that if they read a copy of the communist manifesto, there, spelled out, they would find their beloved public school.

    I still Walker should do a Reagan on them. Back in school tomorrow morning, or you’re done working.

  3. 3
    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Points:
    1. I love it when your Majesty speaks in the plural.

    2. Walker has everything to gain or everything to lose for himself, Wisconsin, and the nation; dependent upon whether he caves to an hysterical minority who undoubtedly campaigned against him, or follows the will of the electorate who hired him.

    3. Completely OT, but the morning sun limning the frosty pines outside my many windows is breathtakingly beautiful.

  4. 4
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    It is appalling what these Leftists are doing. Busing in protesters, OFA calling people to protest in Madison, disrupting the business of the state senate, protesting at people’s homes – to the point where some are removing their families for their safety! This is NOT American. This is MOB rule. Tyranny.

    As for the Democrat state senators who left the state to evade the state constitution’s rules on how to compel members to appear: their disregard for the legislative process; their complete contempt for the will of the people they serve; and their disobedience of the rule of law they are elected to uphold; for all these, each one of these state senators deserves to be removed from office and replaced with representative who WILL represent the people, who WILL do the job designated, who WILL engage in debate over issues in dispute. To flee like cowards, to thwart the rule of law, and use Alinsky-Communist tactics to keep the people enslaved to their state’s debt – despicable, every one of them!

    And the teachers, striking illegally, bringing their students with them – also illegally – each one of them deserves to be fired.

    I hope the Wisconsin legislators follow the advice on Red State and get this issue PASSED, and show these thugs that the PEOPLE of the state are their BOSSES, not the unions.

    (Red State link: http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2011/02/17/wi-showdown-democrats-not-needed-for-regular-business/ )

  5. 5
    GamerFromJump growls and barks:

    Personally, I hope that by the time my niece is in school, Watson’s descendants are in there fact-checking the teachers. I’m confident enough in my methods of pedagogy to pass such muster.

  6. 6
    GamerFromJump growls and barks:

    Teacher: Now we’ll start the chapter on global warming:

    Watson 4.0: I’m sorry, , I’m afraid I can’t do that.

  7. 7
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    You know, the left has been paradeing around protesting like whiny little bitches for pretty much the past 40 years. The right finally comes alive and says “Stop it you pansies. It’s going to take 40 years to fix everything you’ve effed up over the last 40,” and the left has a cow.

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    The more I read from you here, the more I am convinced that you really have no fucking clue as to what is “American” or not. Perhaps you need to read that First Amendment a little closer. That little part about the right to assemble, and the freedom of speech part?

    DJ , since my side is obviously in the majority around here AND nationally, You are cordially invited to GO Fuck Yourself, you festering liberal oozing fetid cuntsore. (h/t Natasha)

  8. 8
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    LABOR UNIONS ADD TO COSTS AND DISCOURAGE PRODUCTIVITY

    Would you want to work for a company that treats all workers exactly the same, no matter how hard they work? What about one that promotes only on the basis of seniority and not merit?
    Few Americans want a job with an employer who ignores their individual efforts. Yet that’s what labor unions offer employees today. Small wonder membership is steadily declining.

    The premise of collective bargaining is that by representing all employees a union can negotiate a better collective contract than each worker could get through individual negotiations. But because the union negotiates collectively, the same contract covers every worker, regardless of his or her productivity or effort.
    In the manufacturing economy of the 1930s, this worked reasonably well. An employee’s unique talents and skills made little difference on the assembly line.

    In today’s knowledge economy, however, collective representation makes little sense. Machines perform most of the repetitive manufacturing tasks of yesteryear. Employers now want employees with individual insights and abilities. The fastest-growing occupations over the past quarter-century have been professional, technical, and managerial in nature. The jobs of the future include Web designers, interior decorators, and public-relations specialists, among others.These jobs depend on the creativity and skills of individual employees. Few workers today want a one-size-fits-all contract that ignores what they individually bring to the bargaining table. Union-negotiated, seniority-based promotions and raises feel like chains to workers who want to get ahead.

    Additionally, economic changes mean that unions can no longer deliver large gains to their members. Unions boast that their members earn higher wages than non-union workers. But they don’t create money out of thin air. They use their bargaining power to take it from someone else. Contrary to popular impression, that someone is usually not business owners. It is consumers, who pay higher prices when companies pass on the added cost of the union-wage bill.

    But companies can pass union costs on only when customers cannot shop elsewhere. Deregulation and free trade have increased competition, and benefit both consumers and the economy. NAFTA alone saves a typical family $2,000 a year. But increased competition also means that unions cannot win above-market wages through collective bargaining. Companies no longer have monopoly profits to afford those inflated wages.

    Take General Motors, which used to pay its janitors and security workers the union rate of $75 an hour. When Toyota and Honda started selling better cars for less, they drove GM to the brink of bankruptcy and forced the United Auto Workers to agree to new contracts paying market rates. As this has happened at company after company, the difference between union and non-union wages has steadily shrunk.
    The average union member still earns more than the average non-union member, but not because unions are skilled negotiators. It’s because unionized companies become very selective about whom they hire.

    James Sherk

  9. 9
    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An growls and barks:

    His Majesty speaks sooth. Alinsky their asses, and use their own tactics and manuals against them.

    We do not have the local coverage available here. Someone, perhaps Lizard GLOR or other LC is up there and knows who is the most active on our side in Madison.

    Recommend to them:

    1) Massive videoing of the enemy inside and outside the Capitol building, and collection/collation of the videos thus far. They apparently intend to continue this after the Federal holiday. I seem to remember at our TEA Party gatherings there being people across the street with long-lensed cameras taking an inordinate interest in who was speaking. I even greeted, pointed them out, and waved to them when I was at the podium. Because they were not media or law enforcement from anywhere in our county [one advantage of small towns is that you know everybody there]. We were assuming either Federales, or SEIU/OFA Sturmabteilung. Turnabout is fair play.

    2) Here is the hard part, which will take quite a bit of organization. You will need to get the rosters of the teachers in the 15 School Districts that were shut down by “sick out”. From that, you need to get as many pictures of them from whatever source that you can. The Inter-Web-Tubes invented by Algore comes to mind as an aid.

    IF there are any signs, etc. identifying a Local of the Union, that will be of great aid in identifying teachers.

    3) Those identified will be a small subset of those present. They ain’t gonna ID everyone; just hopefully a decent number in each district.

    4) Of those identified, use two courses of action.
    a) those who are carrying or surrounding signs that are violent, or indicate anti-social/psychopathic tendencies.
    For those in this group, go into the District’s own manuals of conduct, and find where they are in or could be in violation of those policies. And have a lawyer accompany the parents of students of those teachers to the next School Board Meeting and file formal complaints questioning their fitness to work with children in school, by name and asking for each individual’s suspension without pay until their fitness is clarified under whatever hearing procedures are in use in the district.
    b) we have video-ed and documentary proof that Union operatives, who may or may not be doctors, were handing out faked medical excuses for absences to teachers at the Capitol. [ See my comment #41 on ABOUT THOSE WISCONSIN TEACHERS below] All seem to bear the signature of one “doctor” who is supposedly an associate professor at a college. There are two possibilities here. If the doctor is in fact a real, licensed doctor; he did not perform any examination as required by the canons of medical practice and if they are anything like most states, it is a criminal violation [the excuse is in fact a prescription to stay away from work] and we have that on tape. There were multiple people caught on tape handing out those excuses. Unless they are Physicial Extenders operating under his license, he is violating the law on another charge. In any case, once again using the evidence at hand, file formal complaints to the State Medical Board using a lawyer [such boards tend to protect doctors from individuals without legal counsel, but when the prospect of going to court is involved they may take it more seriously to cover their own butts]. Report the filing to his malpractice insurance company. He may lose his license to practice medicine. He at the very least may have to pay a bunch more for malpractice insurance. And if he is a professor, a criminal conviction may remove him from academe. He can be what is referred to as an example pour encourager les autres. TWANLOC wage lawfare against us on a regular basis. Turnabout is fair play. The next doctor may be less eager to violate the law to help the Left violate the law.

    If this is not a real doctor, then every one of these slips is a criminal forgery. Every one that enabled their creation, handed them out, and everyone who submits them as an excuse is a principle accessory to the crime. [Reasonable Man doctrine: would a reasonable man assume that a person coming up to you in the middle of a demonstration offering you a doctors excuse for as long as you want to demonstrate be a) legally practicing medicine, or b) that the excuse was legal and valid? If they claim that they assumed so because he had a medical smock on, there may be grounds for having them fired for being mentally or psychologically unable to perform the duties of a teacher. Everybody concerned should be prosecuted, and formal notice publicly given to each individual school board that had to shut down that all the teachers who were ID-ed as being at the demonstrations may be involved in the criminal case if they submitted a forged doctors excuse. Same to whatever board in Wisconsin credentials teachers. Demand accountability from the school board to check if they submitted one of the fake excuses [and discipline if they did], on pain of them being recalled.

    Either being charged with a crime, and/or being caught deliberately submitting falsified documents to the school district should be grounds for disciplinary action, suspension, or dismissal under most contracts.

    5) There are reports that some teachers took students to the demonstrations as a class activity; whether the school was shut down or not. In these litigious times, any off campus activity has to have beaucoup permission slips and releases of liability. If parents can be found whose kids were so taken without permission; file appropriate civil and criminal actions against both the individual teacher and the school. It is can be shown that the Unions were involved, add them too. I believe [BiW, correct me if I am wrong] that under the doctrine of respondeat superior the government agency employing them is also liable for any misconduct, UNLESS is it shown that the individual violated department policy, practices, and training. At which time, the District is going to be forced to discipline said agents [teachers, any administrators who enabled it] in self defense, and leave them legally on their own. At least that was the doctrine they pounded into our heads when I worked for the State.

    A further suggested tactic. The Unions have published the home addresses of members of the legislature’s families, and they have been visited and threatened. This is still playing out. IF it turns out that such tactics cannot be barred by law and are considered to be valid expressions of the First Amendment, then turnabout is fair play. Collect the home addresses of Union officials, down to the school shop steward level. They can be picketed. At home, too.

    A further suggestion for Governor Walker and the leadership of both houses of their legislature. In the mayhem Friday, where they had to evacuate the Capitol building under escort because they could not guarantee the safety of the legislators or staff from the demonstrators, I saw several items claiming that the Capitol Security Police [unionized, of course] deliberately stood by and watched demonstrators damage state property and threaten staff. If such is true, and they were not under tactical orders to do so; then the Capitol Security Police needs to be replaced from top to bottom, both individually and organizationally. Demonstrations are allowed. Threats and property damage are not covered by the First Amendment, and sworn officers who enable such by deliberate inaction are derelict in their duty. I suspect that subject is already under discussion.

    I don’t know if there is an organization up there that is capable of pulling all these threads together. I hope so. The Left needs to be held to the same legal and societal standards as everybody else.

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

  10. 10
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    The following is from THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE (excerpted)

    The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

    He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

    He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

    He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.

    He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:

    For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

    For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:

    For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:

    For imposing taxes on us without our consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:

    For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:

    For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies:

    For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:

    For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.

    He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    Now reread them and ask yourself how many of these apply TODAY to OBAMA .

  11. 11
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An says:

    A further suggested tactic. The Unions have published the home addresses of members of the legislature’s families, and they have been visited and threatened. This is still playing out. IF it turns out that such tactics cannot be barred by law and are considered to be valid expressions of the First Amendment, then turnabout is fair play. Collect the home addresses of Union officials, down to the school shop steward level. They can be picketed. At home, too.

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  12. 12
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    Only in your tiny little syphilitic mind do you think you are in the majority over the long haul.

    To quote YOUR pRESIDENT,

    “WE WON”

  13. 13
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    Gladiator says:
    It is appalling what these Leftists are doing. Busing in protesters.
    As opposed to the Koch Brothers Club for Growth bussing in their Tea Partiers?
    This is NOT American. This is MOB rule. Tyranny.
    The more I read from you here, the more I am convinced that you really have no fucking clue as to what is “American” or not. Perhaps you need to read that First Amendment a little closer. That little part about the right to assemble, and the freedom of speech part?
    Gladiator says:
    I hope the Wisconsin legislators follow the advice on Red State and get this issue PASSED, and show these thugs that the PEOPLE of the state are their BOSSES, not the unions.
    The PEOPLE are also made up of those very people in the unions, jackass, and if you think that this has anything to do with money, you are mistaken. First evidence of that is the fact the unions are more than willing to take whatever cuts in pay and benefits that have been proposed. This leaves only the issue of collective bargaining.
    Why is this an issue for the governor? Because he has long been an advocate of privatization of all government services, and in order to do that, he needs to be rid of the unions altogether.
    What’s wrong with that you ask? On paper, it looks great. In actual practice it has cost more to receive less in every place that it has been implemented. Private prisons do operate at a lower cost — to the operator, not the government. Workers are paid less, worked more, and bring less money to the economy. The incidents of violence and escape have increased in every privately-run prison and lawsuits filed and won are paid out by the state, not the company running the prisons.
    But this is the way of the corporatist party of yours — privatize the profits and socialize the costs.
    This war on the public workers unions is asinine. Unlike the private unions, the public workers make about two-thirds the wages of their private counterparts. What they lack in actual wages is made up in those retirement benefits that you are all getting your intestines tied up over. The workers take a reduced paycheck while the government banks the rest in a pension fund and collects the interest. This makes it easier on the state by paying out wages over time.

    Providing transportation for WI Residents to show their support for their Govenor is vastly different from bussing in protestors from IL, MN and IA. I started asking people where they were from as I walked around for over 5 hours yesterday. Amazed me how many did not want to tell me because frankly they knew I was aware they were not from my state. I estimate that for every 10 people I asked only 2 would answer. I had one ask why I was asking, well when I see busses with the pre-printed union posters I have to wonder. Why wonder about the buses? Because the busses were licensed from MN, IL and IA. Now I have to say they are committed individuals because they road school buses from those locations to Madison, but bussing in people from out of state is quite different from bussing in people from around the state.

    Yesterday was an experience that caused to me to thank the Lord my nephews and niece are homeschool because to know that children are taught by such hate filled and ignorant people saddens me to know end. The fact that they have no problem advertising that they are out right lying and for those that were obtaining the dr excuses breaking the law is just maddening.

    There was a lady who had a sign that said Gov Walker could not be in my classroom because I do not tolerate bully’s. I asked her when she had gotten there, she said on Wednesday. I then asked how could he be in your classroom you weren’t there? She then proceeded to call me nasty names and move toward me much like bully’s do on the playground. A guy the I had met there, is that how you teach your students not to be bully’s? Now I was not shouting at this person but she was yelling at me and before I knew it I was surrounded by union supporters. I was not scared but it was completely different then the way those there to support the bill acted.

    There was a teacher there who had a marching band drum. I told him that was a really nice drum, where did he get it? “Before I called in sick I raided the band room on Wednesday, pretty cool huh?” I started to ask him where he taught, but he saw my sign and clammed up.

    I guess the biggest thing that caused me much pause was the way they have it organized so that supporters of the bill cannot enter the capitol building. They line up at specific times and when the protestors leave the building they have the line people walking in. I found this out because I was wearing a red sweatshirt, which I did not realize made them think I was one of them. As we were walking past trying to figure out was happening the lady who was wearing a union lead sweatshirt, said oh honey here is where we need you to get in line so that we can keep the building full.

    Lastly as a former educator I was fucking pissed at a particular sign that read “Don’t appreciate your teacher, you try spending the day with your retarded child”. While the signs comparing Walker to Hitler, Mussolini, and Al Queda, WI to Egypt and Germany, and the derogartory signs towards Tea Party members were upsetting because of the absolute hate filled speech. For a teacher of people to degrade a child and to use a term that educators have spent years trying to remove from usage just made me see red.

    Being spit on was not a thrill either. But I guess the biggest thing is that when faced with a debate they turned to nasty personal attacks rather than with facts.

    Oh and DJ, the reason why my Govenor is not negotiating with the unions is that we have tried that for years and they always come back the next year or two later and demand more because they took concessions. I taught in the parachial school system made less than my public school counterparts, had more students, dealt with my students who had learning challenges on my own, and my students always out scored the students from the public school. When I switched to teaching inner-city extremely low-income students that basically had been messed up by the public school system, their test scores went up extremely by being in our school. Public school teachers are soaked in the juice of we are underpaid and under appreciate starting in college and the union continues to feed that dumbass thinking. If you are a real teacher you are not there for the pay check you are there for the students, which means your ass is in the classroom not holding a picket sign.

  14. 14
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Gladiator says:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:
    Only in your tiny little syphilitic mind do you think you are in the majority over the long haul.
    To quote YOUR pRESIDENT,
    “WE WON”

    I lost it while debating with someone yesterday in Madison and told the person, well to quote what the President said WE WON! Everyone who voted for Walker knew this was coming and voted for him for that reason.

  15. 15
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    Response to Lizard, G.L.O.R. @:

    Liz , DJ just doesnt get it. Oh ,and dont trust his “facts” without verification. Media Matters and OFA are hardly credible sources.

    Keep up the Good Fight Sister !!!

  16. 16
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    As opposed to the Koch Brothers Club for Growth bussing in their Tea Partiers?

    I trust you have some sort of proof of that?  That is to say, this time from something other than one of your fellow libtard fuck mouthpieces? Y’know, as in credible?

    The more I read from you here, the more I am convinced that you really have no fucking clue as to what is “American” or not

    Thus speaketh he with the multiple-country citizenzhip, who prefers getting his socialized medical care from Canorkistan.

    Perhaps you need to read that First Amendment a little closer. That little part about the right to assemble, and the freedom of speech part?

    Near as I can tell, Gladiator’s doing just that.  The free-speech part, that is. Or do you intend to re-code the site to alter his comments, too?

    If it wasn’t for the unions, you would have a seven day work week, ten, maybe twelve hours a day. Your children would be working along side of you and you would be earning barely enough to sustain you. Paid holidays? Vacations? Overtime? You would never have that if it wasn’t for the unions and the people who collectively fought for those things years ago.

    Ah yes – the “Unions gave you the 40-hour work week” meme.

    Unions also gave us a massive shifting of jobs to places like India, China, Malaysia, Korea, due to ever-increasing demands for higher wages & more bennies…yeah, we really owe a lot to unions, don’t we?

    Oh, and “Politifact”? BWAH-HAHAHAHAHA…!!!!!1!!!!ONE!!1!!!ELEVENTEEN!!!!!1~

  17. 17
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    Darth Venomous says:

    Perhaps you need to read that First Amendment a little closer. That little part about the right to assemble, and the freedom of speech part?

    Near as I can tell, Gladiator’s doing just that. The free-speech part, that is. Or do you intend to re-code the site to alter his comments, too?

    thank you DV…you are a true patriot and a great American, unlike DJ who is a american/canadian/israeli/self loathing Jew. DJ does alter comments Im sure. Hypocrite he is.

  18. 18
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    The HarangueOutan knee-jerkingly shrieked:

    As opposed to the Koch Brothers Club for Growth bussing in their Tea Partiers?

    I’ve been a CFG member for years. Evidently some secretive billionaires owe me big-time. :em93: If you want to allege that the “Club for Greed”–as the Lefties call it–is funding the Tea Party, you will be asked to present evidence, and, quoting Gladiator:

    Media Matters and OFA are hardly credible sources.

    Our resident provocateur again:

    Perhaps you need to read that First Amendment a little closer. That little part about the right to assemble, and the freedom of speech part?

    Amendment I. Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of the press…or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    In your view this somehow becomes the unlimited right of certain factions to occupy the legislature of their or a neighboring state, howl & bang drums, harass, threaten & intimidate, etc. In that case we Rottweilers can do it better! :em12:

    If it wasn’t for the unions, you would have a seven day work week, ten, maybe twelve hours a day. Your children would be working along side of you and you would be earning barely enough to sustain you.

    –Uphill both ways! :em02: Can’t prove a negative,right? This belongs with Obi-Wrong Baracki’s claim that he prevented a depression. If somehow true, however, this claim would not automatically justify any union demand.

  19. 19
    Erbo growls and barks:

    DJ, you wanna talk about “the right to assemble” and “freedom of speech”? May I remind you:

    Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald said he decided to adjourn the Assembly this evening [Friday the 18th] because Gov. Scott Walker called minutes before lawmakers took the floor to tell him to get his caucus members and staff out of the building because their safety could no longer be assured.

    [...]

    There have been reports of threats against lawmakers throughout the week, and Fitzgerald was escorted out of the building by sheriff deputies.

    Peaceable assembly and protest is one thing. When we move into threats of violence, credible enough to force the Governor to adjourn the Assembly and have cops escort the Speaker out, now we’re in the land of felonies.

    WHERE ARE THE GODDAMN HANDCUFFS?

    Whoever made those threats must be identified, arrested, and prosecuted.

    And while we’re at it, if those “doctors” handing out “excuse notes” to the protesting teachers are in fact licensed physicians, perhaps those licenses need to be revoked, on the grounds of willful and malicious fraud.

  20. 20
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    Ive said it before, Ill say it again, Why does our exhaulted leader Misha put up with DJs Shit???

  21. 21
    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Anyone on this site who is not retired or unemployed work 40 hours a week or less? I know I never have. And in my current job I work 10 to 14 hour days and on the weekends.

  22. 22
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    IS there a way to boycott/ignore/ wipe out DJs posts??????????????? Starve the beast ???

  23. 23
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Response to Erbo @:
    In terms of safety apparently they have had as many as 2000 protestors outside of his home which is located in an extremely middle-class neighborhood. Walker lives in the governor mansion, but his wife and sons live at the family home so that the boys can complete their school year.

    Would those same protesters like it if we went and protester outside their home where their children live?

  24. 24
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    The more I read from you here, the more I am convinced that you really have no fucking clue as to what is “American” or not.

    Uh Yeah, I think it is decidedly UN-AMERICAN to “picket” a private residence. The NLRB thinks so also as picketing a private residence during a “labor dispute” is a no no.

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    If it wasn’t for the unions, you would have a seven day work week, ten, maybe twelve hours a day.

    So this means that I “owe” them in perpetuation?

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    The PEOPLE are also made up of those very people in the unions, jackass, and if you think that this has anything to do with money, you are mistake

    Actually, this has everything to do with money. The Unions don’t want a “right to work” state, they don’t want you to have a choice, and risk losing the dues (MONEY). And they sure as hell don’t want to have rely on their membership to self pay. Cause that would COST the union MONEY, not to mention potentially cause some current members to not participate.

    If you think that this is some high minded principle driven event you are mistaken, unless that principle is communism and we all know how well that ‘experiment” has worked out so far.

    Its always about money with the Unions, they no longer have the “worker” as the priority, nor quality of product,

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    This is the Union movements Waterloo. They are going to blink first, keeping their jobs in the Ogabe economy is going to trump union management thugocracy. When that happens (or they all get fired then re-hired under new terms) just watch the rest of the states do the same. The end is nigh for the DNC’s stormtroopers, they know it and they are not going to go peacefully into the night (but in the end they will go one way or another).

  26. 26
    Grammar Czar growls and barks:

    Library Czar says:

    Anyone on this site who is not retired or unemployed work 40 hours a week or less?

    Yeah. Me. I don’t even work regular parttime because then they’d have to give me benefits. I can’t work more than 19.5 hours a week. My AGI this tax season? About 8K. And if I get insurance, I have to pay my own premiums. Sorry, but I have ZERO sympathy for these teachers.

  27. 27
    seagoon growls and barks:

    Response to Gladiator @:
    Because they are old friends- as you were clearly told in a previous thread. You don’t like him- argue with him, ignore him, tell him to ‘come say it to my face’ (tho a certain admin may object to your use of his trademarked catchphrase) but this constant casting of sly aspersions on his and Misha’s clearly (and oft) stated friendship is going to fall on pretty stony ground here- a few too many people believe in freedom of speech, even for Deej (and secretly enjoy having him around to keep the pot bubbling).

    Also, after you’ve been around for a few years you start wondering about why they have never been seen in the same room together…

  28. 28
    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    As opposed to the Koch Brothers Club for Growth bussing in their Tea Partiers?

    Any proof, preferably a conservative news site.

    If it wasn’t for the unions, you would have a seven day work week, ten, maybe twelve hours a day. Your children would be working along side of you and you would be earning barely enough to sustain you. Paid holidays? Vacations? Overtime? You would never have that if it wasn’t for the unions and the people who collectively fought for those things years ago.

    Oh, Moo. There would be no such thing as a seven day work week.

    Take General Motors, which used to pay its janitors and security workers the union rate of $75 an hour.

    Bullshit.

    Bullshit is right, but you are the one spreading it.

    Because they are old friends- as you were clearly told in a previous thread. You don’t like him- argue with him, ignore him, tell him to ‘come say it to my face’ (tho a certain admin may object to your use of his trademarked catchphrase) but this constant casting of sly aspersions on his and Misha’s clearly (and oft) stated friendship is going to fall on pretty stony ground here- a few too many people believe in freedom of speech, even for Deej (and secretly enjoy having him around to keep the pot bubbling).

    See Deej, I have never, NEVAH, asked Misha to ban you.

    Because, no matter how moronic you are, you have a right to say it.

    And I have a right to dispute it.

  29. 29
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Response to Gladiator @:

    You forgot “world traveler, adventurer, explorer and a real travel bug” :em99:

    (A six pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon to anyone who can name the source of that quote :em03: )

  30. 30
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    seagoon says:

    You don’t like him- argue with him, ignore him, tell him to ‘come say it to my face’ (tho a certain admin may object to your use of his trademarked catchphrase) but this constant casting of sly aspersions on his and Misha’s clearly (and oft) stated friendship is going to fall on pretty stony ground here- a few too many people believe in freedom of speech, even for Deej (and secretly enjoy having him around to keep the pot bubbling).

    Also, after you’ve been around for a few years you start wondering about why they have never been seen in the same room together…

    OK, but due to his Lame tactics and bogus referencing, I will now refer to him as D J ALLYNSKY.

  31. 31
    Mike M growls and barks:

    Gladiator says…

    …I will now refer to him as D J ALLYNSKY

    I think between you and LC Xystus you’ve nailed it…

    D J ALLYNSKY, Imperial Harangue-Outan

  32. 32
    Mike M growls and barks:

    Elephant Man says…

    You forgot “world traveler, adventurer, explorer and a real travel bug”

    Why, that sounds like “the most interesting man in the world”.

  33. 33
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Response to Mike M @:

    a good guess but no, that’s not it.

    I’ll drop a hint: “Les Morpions” :em93:

  34. 34
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    Wisconsin students should be in school. Instead the schools were closed because their teachers called out “sick” to attend the protests. Some teachers even brought students along with them. Many of the students were only there because it was a free day off from school. When asked why they were at the rally the students had no idea.

    http://www.610wtvn.com/cc-common/whb/whitehousebrief.html?an=Wisconsin-students-not-sure-why-they-are-protesting

  35. 35
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    (tho a certain admin may object to your use of his trademarked catchphrase)

    Check’s in the mail, sir.

  36. 36
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Now would you not be oh so proud to say that is my child’s teacher or that is my teacher? One of his former students called into Mark Belling and said she was proud to have had him for a teacher and he was just caught up in the moment. :em95:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ANoJU1gE4

  37. 37
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    And now a word from the worst city council and mayor in WI:

    http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/special-gillett-council-meeting

    DUMBASSES :em96:

  38. 38
    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Gladiator says:

    IS there a way to boycott/ignore/ wipe out DJs posts??????????????? Starve the beast ???

    Well, as he is Webmaster for this here blog, I’d have to say not a chance in hell.

    lc purple raider says:

    Take General Motors, which used to pay its janitors and security workers the union rate of $75 an hour.

    Bullshit.

    Bullshit is right, but you are the one spreading it.

    Both true and false. As written it implies that Government Motors paid janitors and security a wage of $75 an hour, which is false. However they did pay out $75 per hour in wages and benefits.

  39. 39
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    Only 45% of public school students in Wi. graduate, and only 34% of ‘black’ students graduate!!!
    Where are Al and Jesse,,,, demanding JUSTICE??????????

    FIRE THEM ALL !!!! Why is there even a discussion about anything?: They are all FAILURES , PERIOD!!!!

  40. 40
    Gladiator growls and barks:

    UNIONS ARE A CANCER____________EXCISE THEM

  41. 41
    Lizard, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Response to Gladiator @:
    The teachers in this state claim it is because we do not spend enough on the schools, but the Choice schools and parachoial schools are able to education the students with less and have a higher grad rate and higher test scores.

  42. 42
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Elephant Man says:

    Response to Mike M @:
    a good guess but no, that’s not it.
    I’ll drop a hint: “Les Morpions”

    As I see that everyone is clamoring for the answer… :em99:

    That quote was from an old Cheech and Chong bit on the album “Los Cochinos” describing Buster the Body Crabbe.

    And now back to our regularly scheduled topic…. :em93:

  43. 43
    The Lone Haranguer growls and barks:

    (NOT to be confused with the Harangue-utan :em02: )

    I have a question. What is the state’s dog in the fight with the teachers? I thought it was school districts who paid them, not the states. As to the general question of unionizing public employees, apparently no less a liberal icon than Franklin D. Roosevelt said:

    All government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.”

  44. 44
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    LH, certain states may render financial assistance to certain districts within said state. Texas (unfortunately) has such a system in place – they call it, appropriately enough, the “Robin Hood” school-financing system.


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