R.I.P. Happy Culture Warrior

I was absolutely shocked a few minutes ago to learn of the passing of an icon of the conservative movement, Andrew Breitbart at the age of 43. His passing was announced on the Breitbart TV website, with this thoughtful statement:

With a terrible feeling of pain and loss we announce the passing of Andrew Breitbart.

Andrew passed away unexpectedly from natural causes shortly after midnight this morning in Los Angeles.

We have lost a husband, a father, a son, a brother, a dear friend, a patriot and a happy warrior.

Andrew lived boldly, so that we more timid souls would dare to live freely and fully, and fight for the fragile liberty he showed us how to love.

Andrew recently wrote a new conclusion to his book, Righteous Indignation:

I love my job. I love fighting for what I believe in. I love having fun while doing it. I love reporting stories that the Complex refuses to report. I love fighting back, I love finding allies, and—famously—I enjoy making enemies.

Three years ago, I was mostly a behind-the-scenes guy who linked to stuff on a very popular website. I always wondered what it would be like to enter the public realm to fight for what I believe in. I’ve lost friends, perhaps dozens. But I’ve gained hundreds, thousands—who knows?—of allies. At the end of the day, I can look at myself in the mirror, and I sleep very well at night.

Andrew is at rest, yet the happy warrior lives on, in each of us.

Andrew as we all know was an absolutely fearless Warrior in the good fight against the lies of the left. He was a pioneer of using the intertubes as a means of getting the truth to the people directly, bypassing the monolithic leftist MSM. For that he gained thousands of enemies filled with hate. They knew that their lies could not stand in the light of the truth that he brought to the people directly and unvarnished. It’s a hard thing to accept things like this, especially people that love this Republic like Andrew did, at such an early age. But we can only accept that the L-rd has a plan beyond our ken.

He shall be missed and our prayers go out to his wife and four children.

-Carry On

UPDATE: Predictably as Swiss clockwork, the leftists are showing their arses, dancing upon Breitbart’s grave all over the Twitterverse. Showing just how intolerant, hateful and disgusting the “tolerant” left in this country is was one of Andrew’s many hobbies, and I can’t help but find it darkly amusing that even in death he’s continuing to whip their arses, exposing them for the slimy, creepy, hate-filled trolls that they truly are. Well done, Andrew! [Emp.M.]

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  1. 1
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Whoa – just heard this on the radio.

    I just (yesterday?) heard him interviewing w/Hugh Hewitt, talking about all of the ways the Left-on-up-to-the-WH were doing things overtly to strike at people daring to deal w/him.

    Surely that’s a podcast somewhere – I’ll try to find it.

    – MD

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    This comes on the heels of Breitbarts CPAC speech where he stated he had the goods on Obamas past and that he would release them in October. Curious?

    FOIST !

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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator says:

    Curious?

    Me too. He did have a history of heart problems that was apparently diagnosed last year. Still and all…..
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    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Found the podcast of the HH interview – unfortunately, it’s “Premium Content”.

    If anyone can pull this down, it’s worth listening to – particularly given last night’s outcome.

    – MD

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    LC Draco growls and barks:

    WOW…this really came out of left field. DAMN!!
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    LC MaxMomFl growls and barks:

    This is one of those rare moments in life when one weeps real tears for the loss of an individual despite having never personally met them. I feel the loss of a comrade. It is a huge loss.

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    LC Gladiator says:

    This comes on the heels of Breitbarts CPAC speech where he stated he had the goods on Obamas past and that he would release them in October. Curious?

    Not “curious” at all, and if it hasn’t it needs to sound an extreme warning bell. What with everything that has gone on, with the myriad of others that had something that have had “terrible accidents” or whatever, Why In The FUCK is this not grounds for an immediate investigation by ALL of the “alphabet agencies”? :em08:
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    LC Jackboot IC/A @ # 3: :em03: Too many of these “coincidences” to be coincidence.
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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    While I don’t share all of the accolades for this guy, it is sad to see the death of anyone so young. My heart goes out to his family.

    But the germination of the conspiracy theories here? Look, the guy had a heart condition. HE even acknowledged it.
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    Shaitana growls and barks:

    This stinks to high heaven and if anyone at ALL thinks we believe this ‘natural causes’ BS is stupider than I thought. And thus another warrior is taken out.

    I am torn between grief and horror right now.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Oh, for cryin’ out loud, people. Someone CAN die of natural causes at age 43. My ex had a heart attack at age 48. Granted, it wasn’t fatal, but it very well COULD have been.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. @ #:

    Granted, it wasn’t fatal, but it very well COULD have been.

    And Vince Foster tripped and hit his head. Sorry Czar, I don’t buy it. At CPAC he tells the them he has film of Obongo in college and it will be devastating. Then three weeks later he dies of “natural causes” while walking his dog at midnight?

    Bullshit

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. @ #11:

    Exactly right, Skye.

    The thing is, some people naturally react to bad news — or news they don’t want to believe — with the thought that something else was responsible, and that it is being kept from them. In this case it is a reminder of their own mortality, and someone dying so young is hard to process.

    Constantly tell the people you are close to that you love them. Cherish all the time that you have with them, because they may leave you without warning or reason.

    Andrew apparently had a good life. He lived the way he wanted to and on his terms. That is all that counts.
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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    I’m absolutely flabbergasted, just saw this on the B&R site! My most sincere condolences for his family. I’m given to wonder why God called him home so soon, especially since he was doing a wonderful job Fighting the Good Fight Against the Forces of Evil.

    I don’t hold with the “suspicious circumstances” yet, fellow Rotties, let’s apply the 72-hour rule and check fire. For now. After all, he DID have a heart condition and he was under a LOT of stress. Those two just don’t mix.

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    LC Proud Infidel growls and barks:

    Rest in Peace, Mr. Breitbart, and G-d Bless.

    I smell something funny with him passing away like that, it reeks like Vince Foster’s death, it’s just too convenient for B. Hussein 0bama & Co. :em03:

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    Secondmouse growls and barks:

    Sometimes, the light that burns the brightest cannot burn the longest.

    As fearless as he reportedly was, his work had to take a tremendous toll on his health, and with a heart condition, an outcome like this one is always a risk. More information will surely flow over the next few days.

    Tell your family you love them today, and resolve to take a little bit of Andrew’s fierce commitment to the truth with you.

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    LC MaxMomFl says:

    This is one of those rare moments in life when one weeps real tears for the loss of an individual despite having never personally met them. I feel the loss of a comrade. It is a huge loss.

    Ditto. He was far too young. Freedom has lost a powerful advocate.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen @ #13:

    Hear hear!

    Whether or not you believe in G_d, when a persons time is up there is no extended time credits to be had. It’s over. Mr. Breitbart isn’t the first to die “before his time” nor sadly enough, will he be the last.

    With that I just want to say “rest in peace Mr. Breitbart. You’ve fought the good fight and those of us left will keep on fighting for you.”

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    First of all: I’m speechless! Literally, totally speechless. I want to say something profound, but I can’t. All I can say is Dear G-d, please welcome Andrew into Your house with open arms and shower him with love for a life well lived, albeit all too short. And please reach out with Your power and lend Your strength to his loved ones, because they surely need it right now. I humbly ask for this in the name of Your Son, Jesus Christ. Amen.

    As to the rest: I’ll be the first one to say that something smells here. As you well know, I’m not a big fan of or believer in “coincidences”, but I also DO know and admit that they DO exist, so if there ever was a time for a 72-hour rule, this would be it. At least as far as I’m concerned. Not to say that I’m sticking my head in the bush here, I’ll be following this very very closely in the days and weeks to come, I’m just not ready to set off the klaxons yet.

    Also, this is Andrew Breitbart and his loved ones, not to mention his organization, that we’re talking about. I’m fair certain that if there is more to this than meets the eye they’re not going to roll over and play dead, if you’ll pardon the expression.

    So let’s see.
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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    43 is too damned young.

    Slan Abhaile.
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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    You want to see the vile worthlessness of the left? My friend Jenn’s blog is filled with the nastiest troll droppings. Pricks rejoicing in this tragedy. :em04:

    But, unlike a leftist abomination of a site, you can respond and give them your righteous opinion! :em01:

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    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An growls and barks:

    Yes people CAN die young, and of “natural causes”. But the determination of which, by law is governed by certain rules and processes. Here is what I wrote at HOTAIR:

    I have not had time to go through the 10+ pages of comments, so if this is repetitious, please bear with me. I am a retired peace officer [SGT] with 28 years with my last department, and a total of 36 years wearing a badge. When you are an investigator, you look for anomalies, things that do not match.

    1.) Andrew Breitbart died of what has apparently been ruled natural causes at age 43. NO autopsy has been performed, nor has there been time for any forensic examination. [We are still waiting for the formal final findings in the Whitney Houston case.]
    2.) Noting for the record that the normal life span of a male of his age is over 70.
    3.) Coroners/Medical Examiners by practice at least and by statute in many states are required to conduct a full post-mortem and inquest for any suspicious death or death where there is no obvious cause. In my state, unless you die in a hospital from a previously diagnosed cause, a post-mortem is specifically required by statute. [recent change in our law, that is destroying the budgets of the coroners]
    4.) The Los Angeles Medical Examiner’s office is notorious for issuing findings that contradict the evidence to benefit the powerful.
    5.) Andrew Breitbart received scores of threats on a daily basis from the supporters of the Left, was personally responsible for the temporary defunding of the Left’s political vote fraud machine [ACORN], and specifically had announced that he was in possession of pictures and data about Obama’s hitherto secret and deliberately concealed days in college that he was going to release during the presidential campaign.
    6.) This meets the definition of suspicious circumstances, and since there is not a neon light that starts flashing on your forehead saying “natural causes” when that is the cause of death; there should be a post-mortem before any ruling or announcement. Even if it was a heart attack, stroke, or aneurysm; it requires a pathological examination to determine that.
    7.) So from the beginning, we have that huge anomaly. Something ain’t right.
    8.) Being professionally a suspicious soul, I am reminded of the case of a Bulgarian gentleman named Georgi Ivanov Markov; not of the specific means, but the general process. YMMV.

    Subotai Bahadur on March 1, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    The very first announcement contained enough information to raise suspicions. And those suspicions are apparently widespread.

    I will quote my daughter, who I briefed on events when she got up [Breitbart dead, collapsed while walking near home, age 43, already ruled natural causes]:

    “So we’re at that stage already.”

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

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    LC George, Apocryphal Prophet growls and barks:

    It’s certainly within possibility that it really was natural causes, but my gut reaction upon first reading the news was to reach for the aluminum foil.
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    1idvet growls and barks:

    RIP Andrew.
    Well done indeed.

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    I’ll be the first one to say that something smells here.

    Apparently you weren’t the first, and the conspiracy theorists are out in force all over the Internet. The most common theory is that Hillary Clinton killed him because he was going to release a “shocking” film of Obama in college that will “expose” Obama as a “radical”. (will the film be produced and edited by James O’Keefe?)

    I’m sorry Misha, but shit happens. People die when they aren’t “supposed to” To try and make “sense of it” (as if we can) we come up with these kinds of scenarios to “explain” it. It is part of that denial stage of grief. You have to believe that something “bad” happened, and the fact that only two weeks ago he had made an announcement he was releasing a politically “damaging” film in October lends itself to the thought that it could have been a conspiracy killing.

    But sooner or later, common sense has a habit of rolling in for most people. If there was a film he was going to release in October, it will probably STILL be released in October. Breitbart ran a business. It didn’t die with Breitbart. Whatever unholy hell he was going to unleash, will still be unleashed.

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An @ #22:

    Talk about setting things up in such a way that there could be no real definitive way to accept a natural death. Either the coroner’s office comes out and says it is a suspicious death, or they are “notorious” for bad findings of death. So that if they say it is a natural death, it still leaves it open to your interpretation of it being suspicious.

    So why bother with the autopsy, and just go with your off-the-cuff diagnosis?

    Andrew Breitbart is said to have had a heart condition. What that actually entailed will be up to an actual doctor to determine. The man hasn’t been dead twenty-four hours and already people are assuming the worst as if it were fact.

    None of us know his medical history. For all we know, he has had serious health problems for a while that he and his family kept quiet. Maybe he had an aneurism, which is obvious to an attending doctor at the hospital. Who knows, because none of us do.

    MORE IMPORTANTLY, why does it matter at this stage? Celebrate his life, mourn his death, and speculate on the dumb shit later, once more information is out there.
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    Mark12A growls and barks:

    A few of the people that were alleged to have been involved in a homosexual relationship with Obama mysteriously died before his election. All I can say is that I wouldn’t put it past that asshole for him to have arranged an accident. Usually, a thing is what it is, but there are times…

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    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An growls and barks:

    #25 DJ Allyn, Private Citizen

    Because the ruling was made with absolutely none of the examinations required by law, and made immediately after the death. The “falling out” was not witnessed by medical personnel, nor was he under the immediate care of a hospital/nursing home. A ruling of “natural causes” requires that foul play be ruled out if the person is not already hospitalized. That takes time. A post-mortem with gross physical examination of the organs and specialist pathological examination is required to determine if it was an infarct, a stroke, an aneurism, or any number of other “natural causes” including signs of disease processes. They have to rule out trauma [which can be accidental or deliberate], internal injuries, and a wide range of pharmaceutical involvements, licit or otherwise. The tox screen alone takes days. As I noted, we are still waiting for the final report on Whitney Houston, and it took over a month for Michael Jackson’s cause of death to be determined. Once you start the postmortem process, you follow the entire process, which takes time.

    And “natural causes” would not be all that would be listed as a cause of death. It would be something along the line of “natural causes secondary to [infarct, aneurism, stroke, disease process, etc.]“; and such cause could not be determined in the time span involved.

    If the Medical Examiner had processed him in accordance with normal legal procedure, actually I would have probably taken it more likely as a tragic incident.

    When they give every appearance of violating the law and immediately issue a ruling that physically cannot have been properly determined; that waves red flags, shoots off Very Lights, and sets off alarm bells. That is independent of the reputation of the LA Medical Examiners Office; which reputation does not lead to automatically granting the benefit of the doubt.

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

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    LC Alric growls and barks:

    Resquiat in Pacem, Andrew Breitbart. I can only hope that we can continue your work of exposing the far left for what hateful, bitter little cunts that they are. As long as we’re floating conspiracy theories…I heard one that Breitbart might be faking his death for now in order to gin up a fury of far left hate and then troll them. It would be the greatest instance of trolling in history if it were true.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    One of the articles says that he was treated by paramedics at the scene, and then transported to the hospital, where he died. As he already had heart problems, magnified by major stress, my money is on an MI.

    My ex’s heart attack came out of nowhere. He was healthy, ran nearly every day, went in for regular checkups, didn’t smoke, was not overweight, and yet he suffered an MI…The cause? Stress, mostly, and probably eating a half gallon of ice cream every night for months contributed to it.

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An says:

    Because the ruling was made with absolutely none of the examinations required by law, and made immediately after the death.

    Uh…. ruliing? What ruling? There hasn’t been an official ruling yet, in fact here is a statement from the Coroner’s office:

    Mr. Breitbart, 43 years old, collapsed on the sidewalk near his Brentwood home, according to a spokesman for the Los Angeles County coroner’s office. “Pending an exam, which will probably take place as early as [Friday], we have no opinion yet as to the cause of death,” the spokesman said. He added that the coroner’s office understood that Mr. Breitbart had seen a doctor about a year ago for a cardiac issue.

    Now that doesn’t stop the media from making their speculations based on what paramedics or attending doctors say. Everything I read said that it appeared that he had died of natural causes.

    It is a little unclear as to whether he died with an attending doctor present or whether he was pronounced dead upon arrival. The former has more meaning than the later. But even so, the key word in the early reports was the word “appeared”, as in it appeared he died of natural causes.

    A “ruling” of anything takes a more involved process, usually involving an autopsy. It is WAY too early for a “ruling” on anything, and I am surprised that anyone would think there had been one yet.

    Of course that doesn’t stop the rampant
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    I’m sorry Misha, but shit happens.

    Did I not just say that I realize that and fully acknowledge it?

    You’re right: Time will tell, and that’s exactly what my conclusion was. Let’s give it some time. But it is no less foolish to automatically assume that “all is well” than it is to automatically assume foul play. I do neither.

    And yes, it is suspicious when “natural causes” is thrown out there as the explanation when no coroner in the world would be able to have even placed the decedent on the stainless steel table yet. Just as I have laughed my arse off every single time there’s been a possible terrorist incident in this country since 9/11 and the FBI is out there with “no connections to terrorist activity” even before they’ve made it to the scene.

    My most charitable explanation for that kind of obvious bullshit being released is that the officials in question want to calm things down before people assume the worst, and that might well be the case with the “natural causes” here. But they really ought to know better than that. Making a categorical statement that anybody with an IQ above arugula knows that you cannot make at that point only makes people more suspicious, not less, and for very good reasons too.

    They really ought to try out the truth for size every once in a while, along the lines of “the investigation is still ongoing and we cannot say anything definitive at this point, but we will keep you updated.”

    (Post update, because I can): OK, I see now that it wasn’t the coroner’s office making the “natural causes” statement. Fair enough. Then it’s just a standard case of typical media malpractice. My apologies for having alleged that the coroner was full of shit. Obviously he too knows what I learned in med school: Unless the head is separated from the body, you can’t say anything for sure about the cause of death until you’ve opened up and taken a look.
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    themandownthehall growls and barks:

    I won’t be so nice Misha. Until proven otherwise, Obama murdered Andrew. Period. He’s done it before, he’ll do it again. Anyone who threatens his power is taken out, either figuratively or, if that’s not possible, literally.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    Unless the head is separated from the body, you can’t say anything for sure about the cause of death until you’ve opened up and taken a look.

    That’s not necessarily true. Suppose the decapitation is port-mortem? (Okay, so I watch too much NCIS. Sue me.)

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    The most common theory is that Hillary Clinton killed him because he was going to release a “shocking” film of Obama in college that will “expose” Obama as a “radical”.

    :em05: Four years of that jugeared asshole’s administration have already proven that.

    Predictably as Swiss clockwork, the leftists are showing their arses, dancing upon Breitbart’s grave all over the Twitterverse. Showing just how intolerant, hateful and disgusting the “tolerant” left in this country is was one of Andrew’s many hobbies, and I can’t help but find it darkly amusing that even in death he’s continuing to whip their arses, exposing them for the slimy, creepy, hate-filled trolls that they truly are. Well done, Andrew!

    I’ve no doubt that he and Saint Peter are laughing like drunken hyenas at the dancing liberal monkeys.
    If it were me I’d ask Moses to part the clouds so I could drop a beer bottle on Helen Thomas’s shriveled head.

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    radioone growls and barks:

    Why would we NOT expect the Left to initiate a “Vince Foster” on Breibart? Look how happy the Left is. They Wanted this, and they Relish the fact he has passed away. IF I expected Anybody, it would be ‘da boyz from Chicago. They got a good thing goin’ with “The Won”.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    That’s not necessarily true. Suppose the decapitation is port-mortem?

    Picking nits, are we Skye? ;)

    Point taken, though. But if the decapitation was post-mortem, it would take a spectacularly inept coroner to not notice the absence of, say, a rather large puddle of blood around the stump of the neck.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    can we open fire yet?

    bomb squad called to LImbaughs house

    No need to wait. I can’t speak for Rush, but I sure as Hell wouldn’t have hesitated to open fire if it had been my house and I’d happened to be around.

    I keep hearing those ProgNazi pussies screaming about how “my time has come” and how “I’m no longer welcome in this country” because I’m not a ProgNazi.

    What I DON’T hear is the sound of them trying to fucking well MAKE me leave, which I’d actually welcome, seeing as how that would give me a perfectly legal excuse for demonstrating the proper handling of lethal force to them.

    Alligator yaps on hummingbird arses, the whole sorry cowardly lot of them.

    Bring it, you pussies, fucking well BRING it. And bring lots and lots of large black bags with zippers in them too, because you’re going to need them.

    And if you have no intentions of bringing it, you pond scum, then kindly shut up your emasculated, metrosexual, coward pie holes because all you’re providing is an annoying background noise. Your threats pass by me like the idle wind, which I respect not. At all.

    And no, I’m not in the least pretending that you can never defeat me. You might, if nothing else then through sheer force of numbers, but you’re going to have to actually DO it because your lame attempts at intimidation work not at all. I’m not afraid of death itself, it comes to all of us, so I’m sure as Wotan’s left nut not in the least bit afraid of a bunch of smack-talking, latte-quaffing hipsters who wouldn’t know a lethal weapon from a hole in the ground.
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    LC George, Apocryphal Prophet growls and barks:

    According to Bill Whittle at the PJTV round table memorial, Andrew Breitbart had had a prior heart attack several months ago, and simply had been private about it with respect to the online sphere. So this didn’t come out the blue, it only looked that way from our perspective. It is highly probable that this is all there is to it.

    Now, it is of course an eminently obvious fact that plenty of people hated Breitbart enough to express their delight at his death. It is plausible to suppose that a fraction of them hated him enough to have been willing to think seriously about having him offed beforehand, and perhaps do some of the work of collecting the kind of data a nefarious individual might find useful. It is true that if either a certain Hungarian Palindrome Gnome or Teh Won’s Apparatus were among those people, there would be more than enough money in play to have the job done professionally. If the target happened to have a prior heart attack on record, that could only make natural causes more credible.

    Alternatively, the man had a heart attack yesterday after having had one last year. Whoever might have wanted him dead didn’t have to do anything. If anyone’s to blame it’s the USDA, for feeding all of us a nutrition model far less healthy than people are in the habit of believing.

    But see, that’s how a conspiracy theory works. Sometimes people are unable to accept that sometimes shit just happens, or maybe they just can’t let go of their initial reaction to an event. When the facts come in, they go through intellectual contortions to avoid revising their belief as much as humanly possible. Given what I knew at the moment I first heard the news, it was perfectly rational to suggest foul play, but sticking to that notion for very much longer, with the available facts as they are, will require an explanation of exponentially increasing length. At some point you have to stop wanking into the conspiracy towel, throw it in the laundry with a double measure of bleach, and then hang it up before you end up writing a 1600 page manifesto.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC George, Apocryphal Prophet @ #:

    What you said, in spades.

    The difference between somebody keeping an open mind, which is what you should do in the early phases when not much of anything is known, and a conspiracy theorist is that the latter tends to cling obsessively to his or her beliefs even when the available evidence clearly contradicts them.

    It’s not too early to speculate, it is as a matter of fact the time to speculate as nothing is known, but it’s way too bloody early to draw any conclusions either way, because there is nothing to base them on.

    Did Andrew have enough enemies and a history of actions that undeniably hurt them grievously enough to provide motive by the bushel load? No question about it. People have been bumped off for far less than that. But we still know jack squat about means or opportunity, not to mention that the body is barely cold yet so even the actual CoD is an unknown at this point.

    At this point I’m keeping all options open while waiting for intel of the good, solid kind. That’s the way I was taught, that’s the way I am and that’s how I work. As intel rolls in, I’ll pare off, refine and rethink everything, but right now it’s just as idiotic to conclude that it was all innocent as it is to conclude that it wasn’t.

    We simply don’t know enough at this point.
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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    themandownthehall says:

    I won’t be so nice Misha. Until proven otherwise, Obama murdered Andrew. Period. He’s done it before, he’ll do it again. Anyone who threatens his power is taken out, either figuratively or, if that’s not possible, literally.

    Done it before? Really? Like Hillary murdered Vince Foster? Are you a script writer for the X-Files or something? Are you experiencing a fracturing of your reality?

    Wow.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    You’re right: Time will tell, and that’s exactly what my conclusion was. Let’s give it some time. But it is no less foolish to automatically assume that “all is well” than it is to automatically assume foul play. I do neither.

    But why bring it up in the first place, Misha? It seems a part of you wants to believe in the conspiracy.

    And again, from the earliest reports I read, there was nothing that definitively said his death wasn’t anything more than what it appeared: to be of natural causes.

    Usually, when a person collapses on a sidewalk and dies, one would assume that they did die of natural causes minus any of the obvious signs to the contrary. (gunshots, stabbings, bludgeoning, etc) The fact that he was only 43 is curious because he was so young. But it isn’t unheard of, especially since there are reports he had been treated for a heart problem just a year ago. Additionally, I am certain his family shared his medical history with the hospital and authorities.

    But being “curious” about his death at a young age, in no way translates to a conspiracy that Obama had him killed. To me, that is just jumping waaaaaaaay out there on the loony limb. You don’t have to go far on the internet to read all of the wild conspiracy nutjobs in full spin mode.

    LC Gunsniper says:

    Four years of that jugeared asshole’s administration have already proven that.

    So why the need to kill someone, if the cat is out of the bag? How do you “expose” someone who has already been exposed?

    radioone says:

    Look how happy the Left is. They Wanted this, and they Relish the fact he has passed away. I

    I seldom find myself being “happy” over the demise of others. Sure, there are a few people I could think of that we could do without, but Andrew Breitbart never came close to that classification. I didn’t care for his actions or his POV, but for me that isn’t a reason to wish he was gone or be happy because of it. Just because I disagree with the opinions or point of view of other people doesn’t mean I have to HATE that person. I disagree with a LOT of you here on certain things I don’t dislike you.

    I also don’t like to speak ill of the dead, regardless of how I felt about them alive. That is just me, I guess. We all have our superstitions or rituals concerning death, and for me that is just one of them. So if you expect ME to feel giddy about the death of Andrew Breitbart, I hate to disappoint you.

    But sure, there probably are a lot of people who have no problem talking shit about him — just as there were people here who had no problem talking shit about say, Ted Kennedy when he passed.
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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    So why the need to kill someone, if the cat is out of the bag? How do you “expose” someone who has already been exposed?

    Uh Deej, that was just some gratuitous snark. In case you haven’t noticed I’m actually on your side regarding this conspiracy thing.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Then again when you have the “tolerant left” dancing on his grave already you have to wonder whether some out-of-work KGB operative hasn’t found “other employment”.

    Andrew Breitbart is dead

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    LC George, Apocryphal Prophet growls and barks:

    He appeared to be fine 50 minutes before he was declared dead.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/andrew-breitbart-dead-la-bar-politics-296386
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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen @ # 9: Timing stinks, Deej. And anybody else that says anything of the sort. The TIMING is what raises suspicion.
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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Shaitana says:

    if anyone at ALL thinks we believe this ‘natural causes’ BS is stupider than I thought

    Then I am happy to consider myself as “stupid” as Bill Whittle. I trust him more than anyone else in the business.

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    LC Light29ID @ # 12: Exacatacally. Too “coincidental” to BE coincidence.
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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    According to Whittle, Andrew had a serious heart attack a few months ago. It’s not uncommon for men who have had a heart attack to have another soon after.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    I had a cousin on my father’s side of the family who died of a massive heart attack at age 38. He didn’t have any history of heart ailments and he exercised and worked out with weights regularly. Just over a year ago an acquaintance of mine died of heart failure at age 36. His complications were caused by obesity.

    It does happen fellow Rotties and it is tragic but it’s a fact of life.

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    A student at the college where I teach had a full blown cardiac failure a month ago, they wheeled her out of here doing full compressions and trying to get her breathing. Kid is 24 years old and healthy as all get out…..

    it does happen

    she’s making a full recovery BTW

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    LC Gunsniper says:

    Uh Deej, that was just some gratuitous snark. In case you haven’t noticed I’m actually on your side regarding this conspiracy thing.

    I know. It was mainly for the benefit of others who actually believe this stuff.

    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician says:

    Timing stinks, Deej. And anybody else that says anything of the sort. The TIMING is what raises suspicion.

    Is there a convenient time for death, CM? Is it better that it happened two weeks AFTER the release of his video? Maybe two months afterwards?

    I am incredulous as to how quick people are to jump to conclusions that there has to be something more dastardly going on besides someone dropping dead. Especially for the reasons given in the conspiracy theory.

    With all the crap that has been tossed out there about Obama in the past five years, do you really think that a hyped video production put out by Breitbart and company is going to make Obama et al quake in their shoes and try to stop it? Seriously?

    Let’s try a little common sense here, shall we? Do you think killing Breitbart is going to stop the release of some mysterious video expose? Obviously Breitbart didn’t film it himself, someone else did. He didn’t edit it himself, someone else did. His death is not going to stop it from being released in October as Breitbart promised either.

    But I know from experience that regardless of mountains of evidence to the contrary, some people will still hold on to the conspiracy.
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    As I read further down the page, and various and sundry stated the “wait and see, it is a conspiracy theory, etc” stuff, the thought returns to me of the air powered umbrella and the ricin pellet. The fact that a “conspiracy theory” is only a theory until it is proven, and many of them have been. Maybe it really was a heart attack, maybe it was just stress. But the timing of it is what tends to make one a touch suspicious.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    But why bring it up in the first place, Misha?

    Because it’s what I do? Because I refuse to take anything at face value until the facts are in? Because I’m a born skeptic? Let’s turn it around: Why would I NOT ask that question? Why would I want to assume that nothing is amiss here?

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    Usually, when a person collapses on a sidewalk and dies, one would assume that they did die of natural causes minus any of the obvious signs to the contrary. (gunshots, stabbings, bludgeoning, etc)

    Usually people falling over like that aren’t Andrew Breitbart, a person who has pissed off a lot of people. It’s really quite basic. If somebody croaks and there are a whole lot of people who might have wanted said person dead, your first question is, if you’re even trying to conduct an investigation worthy of the name: “Do you know of anybody who might want X dead?” and, if so, look into whether that might have been the case.

    But hey, let’s send out a new directive to law enforcement all over the country: “When somebody dies, automatically assume that nothing is amiss and close the file.” It would save a lot of money :)

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    But being “curious” about his death at a young age, in no way translates to a conspiracy that Obama had him killed.

    The possibility that Obama, or people connected to him acting on his behalf, might have had a hand in it. That’s just common sense if you have what might be a suspicious death. MIGHT be. Of course, if you immediately rule out “suspicious” no matter what, then we can close down all of the homicide divisions all over the country tomorrow.

    If somebody has a motive to off somebody who died, then you have to at least allow for the possibility that they might have had something to do with it or you’re not doing your fucking job. If it later turns out that they couldn’t have done it, well, then we just file it under “that wasn’t it” and move on. What’s so horribly offensive to you about even entertaining the notion when nobody, including you, knows for sure what actually did happen and why?

    Yeah, there undoubtedly will be those who have already concluded in their minds that Andrew was murdered by operatives of the Ogabe regime and nothing, NOTHING will dissuade them of that belief, just like we still have ProgNazis convinced that Bush lied about the conclusions of every single intelligence agency on the planet regarding Saddam’s capabilities and intentions even though they’ve all confirmed that that is exactly what they told him. Just as we still have morons like Rosie O’Donut claiming that 9/11 was an inside job because fire can’t melt steel.

    I’m perfectly aware of that and I have no patience for those twits, because I’m not one of them. Once the data comes out over the next days and weeks I WILL rule out possibilities and refine theories according to the data, but until such data is out I refuse to be an idiot jumping to conclusions either way.

    If there was a guy on my street whom everybody hated and he suddenly keeled over walking the dog I would be a gott-dammed idiot to immediately, before his corpse had even made it to the morgue, insist that it was a ridiculous conspiracy theory to allow for the possibility that any one of us neighbors had helped nature along.

    We’ll all learn more as the weeks pass, but I’m not in the habit of ruling any likely scenario out until I have data telling me that it didn’t happen.

    I just don’t roll that way.

    I seldom find myself being “happy” over the demise of others. Sure, there are a few people I could think of that we could do without, but Andrew Breitbart never came close to that classification. I didn’t care for his actions or his POV, but for me that isn’t a reason to wish he was gone or be happy because of it. Just because I disagree with the opinions or point of view of other people doesn’t mean I have to HATE that person. I disagree with a LOT of you here on certain things I don’t dislike you.

    I know that YOU don’t, Deej, I’ve known you for a long time, but that doesn’t mean that NOBODY on the left does.
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    themandownthehall growls and barks:

    Done it before? Really? Like Hillary murdered Vince Foster? Are you a script writer for the X-Files or something? Are you experiencing a fracturing of your reality?

    Well, Hillary didn’t murder him. She and Billy boy had it done…

    No, I was referring to the dead gays that were murdered in Rev Wright’s church right as Obama was getting ready to run. And now they’re bombing Limbaugh. Team Obama has been busy…

    [Fixed the formatting. -Venomous]

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    When you have a MI at age 75 there is usually a fair degree of collateral circulation so the heart is more likely to survive.

    When you have a MI at age 43 there is little collateral circulation (arteries that grow around injured areas of the heart) that is why at 43 a MI is more likely to be fatal.

    Rest in Peace Good Sir,
    Prayers for your family

  56. 56
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    And again, because I’m obviously not getting my point across here:

    I am NOT saying that Andrew DIDN’T die of natural causes, nor am I saying that he DID because, unlike some apparent members of Miss Cleo’s Psychic Network around here, I recognize that I don’t know squat yet.

    Yes, 43-year-olds sometimes die of heart attacks or other natural causes, I’m quite aware of that. I AM, after all, a medical professional, so don’t try to teach grandma how to suck eggs here, if you please. I have had the misfortune of watching a 14-year-old boy die of an MI and there was nothing “unnatural” about it. I am ALSO aware that sometimes they DON’T. Only time and a thorough investigation will tell and I’ll abide happily by what the FACTS tell me. I don’t have a “preferred outcome” here. I’m just curious and quite unwilling to make a leap of faith here. I keep “what I think” and “what I believe” to church.

    I do want to ask one question though. We have a scenario where a person dies suddenly and, as far as any of us know, unexpectedly, a person who has a lot of enemies and nothing even resembling an investigation has been performed yet. So we have two scenarios (actually more, but we’ll just stick to the two here):

    1) He just had a stroke of bad luck and happened to punch his ticket way earlier than what is normal, “normal” meaning “average”, which is not the same as saying “abnormal never happens”, because anybody with a brain knows that it does.

    2) A guy who was hated with the fury of a thousand suns by a lot of people (try Google if you don’t believe us) which is what is called “motive” if you’ve been sentient for more than three months, suddenly dies, leaving us with the possibility that somebody might have “helped things along a bit”, so to speak.

    What, keeping in mind that nobody KNOWS anything yet, makes one of the two more or less reasonable than the other, exactly? What, keeping the same thing in mind, makes it completely beyond the pale to even entertain that one of the two might be true based on, at this point, no evidence?

    I really want to know. I’m not in law enforcement myself, nor have I ever been, but I was for a long time in something related to it but, still, those of you with actual LEO credentials please correct me if I’m wrong: Isn’t it rather important to keep in mind, when somebody dies all of a sudden, that somebody might have wanted that somebody dead? Or is that just too bloody ridiculous to even consider?
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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician says:

    thought returns to me of the air powered umbrella and the ricin pellet.

    :em05:

    I had that same exact thought when I first started reading all of this. In fact, I had started to look for an image I saw of this a while back…

    Emperor Misha I says:

    Because it’s what I do? Because I refuse to take anything at face value until the facts are in? Because I’m a born skeptic? Let’s turn it around: Why would I NOT ask that question? Why would I want to assume that nothing is amiss here?

    I dunno. Perhaps I tend to take things at face value until I discover otherwise. Call me the optimist. I figure that if anything is really out of whack, it will be discovered fairly quickly. Things don’t stay hidden for long.

    There is nothing about this case that requires me to jump to a conclusion one way or the other right away. A famous guy died. It is assumed it was natural, according to those who responded. Official cause is yet to come. The family themselves say that it was likely heart failure.

    Is there anything there that requires me to think otherwise? NO. It was a sad affair, I feel for the family and friends and am genuinely sorry for their loss. Period. End.

    I don’t think it does his family and friends any service to gin up conspiracy theories around all of this, given absolutely ZERO evidence to support it. NADA. ZILCH. NOTHING.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    Usually people falling over like that aren’t Andrew Breitbart, a person who has pissed off a lot of people.

    Rush Limbaugh is still alive, isn’t he? I don’t think Breitbart can carry Rush’s socks when it comes to pissing a lot of people off. Rush makes Breitbart look like Dalai Lama.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    But hey, let’s send out a new directive to law enforcement all over the country: “When somebody dies, automatically assume that nothing is amiss and close the file.” It would save a lot of money

    But, that would be THEIR job, wouldn’t it?

    I hate to break it to you, cops don’t approach every death they encounter as a possible murder. It is a homicide only until the likely cause is known. While it has taken the better part of a day for some of the pertinent facts to come out (a previous heart attack a couple of months ago, and the family revealing that he had had some heart issues over the past couple of years) I am sure the cops probably knew this information hours before we did.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    I know that YOU don’t, Deej, I’ve known you for a long time, but that doesn’t mean that NOBODY on the left does.

    And sadly you are correct. But then, this isn’t a politically-specific thing as you well know. Regardless of what political “side” most people are on, if they didn’t like a person when they were living, they aren’t likely going to like that person once they are dead, and they probably aren’t going to be shy about being happy about that person’s passing.

    Personally, I see it all as a form of karma. While I am not a religious person, I am a spiritual one. I do believe there is a connection between each and every one of us, living or dead, in the past and the future. I don’t think that talking bad about a person who has died does the living any good, whatsoever, even if that person WAS a POS when they were around. It is hard to explain, and I won’t get into it.

    The long and short of it is, the person has moved on. Celebrate his journey to the next phase of his existence, whatever that may be.
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    the botnet growls and barks:

    LC MaxMomFl @ #:
    I’m right there with you. Today, we lost something special.

    Nuts.
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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    Bring it, you pussies, fucking well BRING it. And bring lots and lots of large black bags with zippers in them too, because you’re going to need them.

    Ya forgot to tell ‘em to bring lunch AND supper too.
    Emperor Misha I says:

    actual LEO credentials please correct me if I’m wrong: Isn’t it rather important to keep in mind, when somebody dies all of a sudden, that somebody might have wanted that somebody dead? Or is that just too bloody ridiculous to even consider?

    Damn tootin’ it does. This would be a dead-bang reason for a full Coroner’s Inquest. You’d be a damn fool for not insisting on this.
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    Mao's Dog growls and barks:

    I think you guys are missing the bigger picture here.

    In the last few months:

    Beck – Fired and marginalized
    Napaulatano (sp?) – Fired and marginalized
    Cobert – Threatened? After his Super-pac activities?
    Murdock father and son – being driven out of business, possibly forced to close / sell newspapers?
    Brebrart – Dead of mysterious causes?

    Wow, seems like a lot of strange things happening to media figures lately.

    Who is next? If I was rush I would be hiding in a bomb shelter

  61. 61
    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    What, keeping in mind that nobody KNOWS anything yet, makes one of the two more or less reasonable than the other, exactly? What, keeping the same thing in mind, makes it completely beyond the pale to even entertain that one of the two might be true based on, at this point, no evidence?

    Wouldn’t that be for the LEO to worry their little heads over? Are THEY going to be jumping to the same conclusions that some of the others here are so certain on?

    But that isn’t the point here. There will most likely be an autopsy to determine cause of death. I doubt seriously there will be a full-fledged coroner’s inquest though. If the autopsy confirms a physical cause, an inquest is not needed. Typically, an inquest would occur if there were drugs or alcohol found and authorities would want to know if foul play was involved. If there were no drugs and all the signs point to a heart attack, case closed.

    Right now, there doesn’t seem to be any physical evidence that would come close to suggesting this was anything more than a unexpected death of natural causes, especially when you factor in a very recent heart attack. I’m sorry, I am not going to jump to the conclusion that simply because there were people out there who disliked the man, that his dropping dead on a public sidewalk after a night in the bar is anything but what it appears to be — a natural death.

    Now MY saying all of this doesn’t stop the authorities from doing their investigation and due diligence. I am more than certain they are far more capable of handling this and IF they were to find anything out of the ordinary, THEN I am sure they will share it with the rest of us.

    Until then, I am just going to believe what most sensible people will believe — that this is a tragic loss for the family and that sometimes death comes earlier than expected. I will save all of the conspiracy stuff for those who love to worry about such things.

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Andrew had the heart of a lion.

    BUT I HAVE TO SAY, THERE’S SOMETHING VERY SUSPICIOUS ABOUT THIS.

    Look: he said recently that he has video of Hussein in his college days and will release it –
    He was only 43 years old –
    He had no signs of heart trouble or ill health –
    He was outside at around midnight, walking by himself –

    The police have no business pronouncing IMMEDIATELY that he died of “natural causes.” I mean, WTF???

    Well, all that’s at stake is the leadership of the world’s only SUPERPOWER: nothing that anyone would kill for, ya know? some guy who was making a noise and possibly jeopardizing that?

    Remember the gay men in Hussein’s Trinity Church Choir who were mysteriously murdered –shot in the back of the head — right before the 2008 campaign got underway? The choir director’s mother (70s) who declared that her son was murdered by BO’s minions?

    This immediate pronunciamento that Andrew died of “natural causes” stinks like the State’s immediate pronouncements that “there was no [moslem] terrorism involved” in every terrorist incident. Well, I’d only believe it if they conducted an actual investigation, with Joe Arpaio leading the charge.

    But I’m not holding my breath.

    God, what a terrible loss. First to his family, then to his country.

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    Mao’s Dog says:

    Beck – Fired and marginalized
    Napaulatano (sp?) – Fired and marginalized
    Cobert – Threatened? After his Super-pac activities?
    Murdock father and son – being driven out of business, possibly forced to close / sell newspapers?

    You don’t believe in cause and effect?
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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    Let’s try a little common sense here, shall we? Do you think killing Breitbart is going to stop the release of some mysterious video expose? Obviously Breitbart didn’t film it himself, someone else did. He didn’t edit it himself, someone else did. His death is not going to stop it from being released in October as Breitbart promised either.

    Bingo. If Britbart, 25 people he worked along side all died in the same weekend along with 5 office building fires then I’ll be saying murder and you’d need some pretty serious proof to convince me otherwise. As it is I’m going to consider this a tragic bit of fate and say a prayer for his family. If someone comes up with some evidence then I’ll gladly point out the egg on my face.

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Now that I’ve read the posts, I see I’m not alone in WANTING AN INVESTIGATION.

    That, at least, has to be done.

    Bill Whittle seems like a Nice Man, but hey, he didn’t do an autopsy. He knows a fact that makes it likelier that Andrew died of a heart attack, but it’s not proof.

    Yet.

    For that, we need a full post mortem. I hope his wife is up to the strain. (If I were she, I would insist on it, just in case. . . .)

    Either way, this man’s death is a huge loss to America. I hope his colleagues can carry on with Big Hollywood et al. with the same vigor.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    OK, Deej, I’m going to leave it at that, because trying to tell you what I’m actually saying as opposed to what you’ve decided what I am saying is getting a bit tedious, to say the very least. So, by all means, continue to believe that you know better than I do what I’m saying, because I’ve run out of patience trying to word it so that you might understand.

    Bottom line is this: Neither you nor I know what happened because the facts aren’t out yet, for the very simple reason that they can’t be. These things take time.

    My position is that since I don’t have the facts, I don’t know whether this was foul play or not. I’m open to either until enough actual, verifiable facts come out to prove either A or B wrong.

    Your position is that since you don’t have the facts, you already know exactly what happened.

    Fine.

    Be that way, Miss Cleo.

    I, for my part, like evidence, but obviously you’re too omniscient to need to bother with that sort of thing.

    Good for you, O L-rd.

    Thatisall.
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    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    I found out yesterday morning while laying in the bed surfing the tube. I accidentally poked in the numbers for C-SPAN of all things. There was some rep standing there talking about MLK,jr. I started wondering when they started reruns on this channel when he picked up a poster sized picture of a guy sitting on a white couch. I said to myself, “Is that Andrew Breitbart?” Really wondering where this was going after the talk about MLK,jr. Then he said Andrew had died. My first thought was this has to be some alternate reality the liberals have thrust upon us with some new technology. But apparently he is gone all the same, alternate reality or not. I am saddened that we have lost him and my heart really goes out to his family. His inspiration will be missed. We must hope that there is an individual out there with Andrew’s vision to carry on his good work. Godspeed Andrew ……

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Let’s try a little common sense here, shall we? Do you think killing Breitbart is going to stop the release of some mysterious video expose? Obviously Breitbart didn’t film it himself, someone else did. He didn’t edit it himself, someone else did. His death is not going to stop it from being released in October as Breitbart promised either.

    Looks like theOctober Surprisewill come early this year.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Alligator yaps on hummingbird arses, the whole sorry cowardly lot of them.

    An expression worth remembering.

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    UPDATE: Predictably as Swiss clockwork, the leftists are showing their arses, dancing upon Breitbart’s grave all over the Twitterverse. Showing just how intolerant, hateful and disgusting the “tolerant” left in this country is was one of Andrew’s many hobbies, and I can’t help but find it darkly amusing that even in death he’s continuing to whip their arses, exposing them for the slimy, creepy, hate-filled trolls that they truly are. Well done, Andrew!

    I am reminded of Andrew Breitbart’s comments after the death of Senator Kennedy, and the many comments here. How ironic.

    LC Gunsniper says:

    Looks like theOctober Surprisewill come early this year.

    Kinda throws a monkey and its wrench into the conspiracy that Breitbart was killed to prevent this video from getting out.

    It will be fun to see the editing magic done to make this an epic “gotcha” film. When they say “Joel Pollak and Larry O’Connor are going through them,” it can only mean one thing — they will be heavily edited and arranged to make it look like Obama is responsible for everything bad that has happened, including the 9/11 attacks.

    I have no doubt that Obama is going to be seen saying things that Conservatives don’t like. Gee, big surprise there. He is probably going to say some pie-in-the-sky liberal ideas also. Gee, another surprise. It was college, what does anyone expect? The purpose of college is to not only educate, but to expand one’s horizons through critical thinking — something a lot of modern-day conservatives sorely lack. They learn about philosophy — not just theirs but from other perspectives (or at least they used to when I went to college)

    But I do find it somewhat strange that there would be a series of videos of an otherwise obscure student in a large college, as if he was some sort of celebrity back then. He wasn’t famous. He didn’t belong to a legacy family that was famous. I seriously doubt that back then anyone, including Obama, ever thought he would run for or even become president.

    So this will be really interesting to watch.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    My position is that since I don’t have the facts, I don’t know whether this was foul play or not. I’m open to either until enough actual, verifiable facts come out to prove either A or B wrong.

    Your position is that since you don’t have the facts, you already know exactly what happened.

    That runs kind of contrary to the “I’ll be the first one to say that something smells here.” statement you made. Your default seems to be that there might have been foul play. MY position is that there probably wasn’t, given the facts released, and the utter LACK of facts that would even suggest foul play. Neither position changes the fact that there will be an autopsy conducted by authorities for a legal determination.

    My point is that people automatically want to assume the worst, even when there is no evidence to support it. And as you can see right here on this thread, there ARE some people who will absolutely believe that until it is proven otherwise, Andrew Breitbart was murdered, and most likely because he was going to “expose” Obama in a film.

    If you had gone elsewhere on the InterTubes yesterday, you would have found that same conspiracy all over the place, by people who are so convinced that presidents like Clinton and Obama go out to commit murder in order to keep people from talking bad about them.

    My plane is boarding now.
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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Tallulah says:

    BUT I HAVE TO SAY, THERE’S SOMETHING VERY SUSPICIOUS ABOUT THIS.

    Look: he said recently that he has video of Hussein in his college days and will release it –
    He was only 43 years old –
    He had no signs of heart trouble or ill health –
    He was outside at around midnight, walking by himself –

    The police have no business pronouncing IMMEDIATELY that he died of “natural causes.” I mean, WTF???

    First, yes, he was only 43. My ex was “only” 48 when he had his (luckily unfatal) MI.
    Second, yes, he DID have a history of heart trouble, only recently having had a serious heart attack. It’s not uncommon for a second heart attack to occur close on the heels of the first one. I really don’t think Whittle would lie about such a thing.
    Third, yes, he was walking home, alone, at night. So what? People do that. From what I read, his home was close to the bar, and maybe he was wanting to get a little exercise. You’ve never walked your dog at night, or gone for a moonlit stroll?
    Fourth, no one said absolutely that it was natural causes. They said it appeared to be natural causes, meaning, as I see it, there were no immediate indicators of foul play.

    It’s possible that someone murdered him, but Misha asked which was more likely? I’d say that since he’d already had one heart attack, it was more likely that he died from a second one. Article today says that a post-mortem is going to be done, so that should help things calm down a bit.

    You people are starting to sound like truthers.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    I am reminded of Andrew Breitbart’s comments after the death of Senator Kennedy, and the many comments here. How ironic.

    I remember all the wailing and seething coming from The Left because ‘The Lion of The Senate” wasn’t getting the proper respect and reverence from The Right when he passed away.

    You’d think that The Left would take “the high road” and lead by example after all their past complaining and squealing.

    Then again, who needs “the high road” when you can administer some payback.

    In the mind of your typical Leftist, it’s ok to trash Breitbart because after all, look what he said about Ted when he died!

    Going forward, I expect the next liberal icon to be trashed by The Right when he/she/it dies and people will remark that it’s ok because after all, look what he/she/it said about Andy Breitbart when he died!

    I’m just surprised that anyone would expect anything different.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    I’d elaborate on my previous comment but my X-567 Rocket Transport is boarding.

    I’m about to go on another daring sooper sekret adventure at the Halliburton Climate Change Complex on Planet Neutro…..uh oh….I’ve said too much.

    No worries. It’s not like men in dark suits and sunglasses will snatch me up and ha

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    I am reminded of Andrew Breitbart’s comments after the death of Senator Kennedy, and the many comments here. How ironic.

    Because colluding with an enemy nation (the USSR) to sabotage your own government, leaving a young woman to drown in order to save your career etc. etc. is nowhere NEAR as despicable as helping to expose ACORN!

    Actually, to a leftist that would be absolutely true.
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    DarkStar growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    I am reminded of Andrew Breitbart’s comments after the death of Senator Kennedy, and the many comments here. How ironic.

    I have enjoyed reading your replies and don’t take a position one way or the other, except when it comes to Teddy-boy. The most striking difference between Andrew and Teddy is, Andrew never caused the death of someone else. In fact teddy was more interested in getting an alibi established he even tried to save MaryJo. I’m sure Teddy-boy is reaping ALL of his just rewards, not only for Maryjo but for the millions of aborted children that he so ardently supported. The ‘Lion of the Senate’ was more of a jackal than anything else.

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    DarkStar growls and barks:

    DarkStar says:

    In fact teddy was more interested in getting an alibi established he even tried to save MaryJo.

    It should read: “In fact Teddy-boy was more interested in establishing an alibi that he NEVER even tried to save MaryJo.”

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    Lc ORWN engine builder for Rottie Racing growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen says:

    The purpose of college is to not only educate, but to expand one’s horizons through critical thinking — something a lot of modern-day conservatives sorely lack. They learn about philosophy — not just theirs but from other perspectives (or at least they used to when I went to college)

    Did you actually type that with a straight face? Critical thinking? I know a bunch of kids who are graduates of pretty big colleges that absolutly cannot think for themselves, oh but the can parrot every class warfare marxist bullshit you see the Ows crowd mindlessly chanting, please pull the other leg, the left one is getting sore.

    You might be a liberal if you think my truck has something to do with climate change, but don't think solar activity has anything to do with it. Actually had a graduate from a " liberal arts " college say that about the sun. Nope, no effect whatsoever, cause that is what she was taught.

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    Lc ORWN engine builder for Rottie Racing growls and barks:

    HMMM? not really sure what happened there.. :em08:

    [No worries, ORWN. Gotcha covered. -Venomous]

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    The purpose of college is to not only educate, but to expand one’s horizons through critical thinking — something a lot of modern-day conservatives sorely lack.

    So Marxist indoctrination is now called “expanding one’s horizons”?

    That’s good to know.

    I’ve had trouble keeping up with the latest code ever since I lost my Acme Brand Liberal Decoder/Mood Ring. :lol:

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    Alan K. Henderson growls and barks:

    DarkStar @ #:

    There is a difference between celebrating a death and criticizing the deceased, as illustrated by my own obit for ted Kennedy, which does the latter (and lightly so) and not the former.

    Many Americans will remember the “Lion of the Senate” the way a mauled gazelle remembers a real-life lion. Politically, he will always be known first for supporting the vast array of entitlement programs that are bankrupting us.

    One has to look hard to find major issues on which Kennedy was on the correct side. He did vote for the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Reason’s Nick Gillespie points out something a bit more recent:

    During the 1970s, Kennedy was instrumental in deregulating the interstate trucking industry and airline ticket prices, two innovations that have vastly improved the quality of life in America even as—or more precisely, because—they pushed power out of D.C. and into the pocketbooks of everyday Americans. We are incalculably richer and better off because something like actual prices replaced regulatory fiat in trucking and flying.

    Condolences to his family.

    I could have been a lot harsher and mentioned Chappaquiddick, Bork, and the American efforts to preserve Communism in Nicaragua.

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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    You people are starting to sound like truthers.

    Which are closely related to birthers, and the grassy knoll. Mel Gibson is around here somewhere, isn’t he?
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    DJ Allyn, Private Citizen growls and barks:

    Oh, and something is broken here. I will have to figure out what it is, once I recover from a massive case of jet lag.
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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Mel Gibson is around here somewhere, isn’t he?

    Yep. He’s playing canasta with Richard Belzer, Jesse Ventura and the “Bush stole the election” crowd.

    ;)

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    I’m not saying “Bill Whittle is a liar.” Nowhere in my post.

    BUT.

    He doesn’t KNOW how Andrew died. He knows the guy had a dicky heart, so it’s a plausible guess that he died of natural causes.

    But we don’t KNOW that yet.

    As far as the question of “why kill just Andrew if you want the tapes to be suppressed?” It’s traditional (as in, throughout human history) to kill one of the opposition to scare the shit out of the rest of them: “pour encourager les autres.”

    Look at their M.O.: blackball Limbaugh from the NFL (“if we can do this to you, we can yank your little radio show, too”); kneecapping Rupert Murdoch in the UK and threatening to gut him in the US; taking down Canadian conservative press baron Conrad Black; etc. Now Roger Ailes has told his Fox News troops to “tone it down” and swing more to the center politically.

    They’ve served notice from the beginning that they’ll stick at nothing to take absolute power — and that’s their game, getting absolute power. And they play a very long game.

    The stakes? Control of the world’s only hyperpower, and the defeat of the Great Example of Freedom. That’s all.

    But hey, “it would never occur to these powder puffs to off a guy from California who’s been a pain in their ass. That would be going too far.” Riiight. Read a bit of history if you haven’t lately; convenient deaths are a staple of the story.

    I don’t believe in coincidences — especially not when they are related to this criminal regime. http://www.prisonplanet.com/breitbart-wait-til-they-see-what-happens-march-1st.html