Contraception- Another Stoopid Distraction

Does anyone really care that much about contraception when jobs and the economy are the real numero uno concern? I think not. Regardless, we have another full-court press campaign mode maneuver by the Dead Stream Hacks™ creating an irrational ‘issue’. This time they’ve been so fucking transparent in their mission of the month that a sub-retard could see through it (my apologies to sub-retards). Who the FUCK cares? This is a brazen and transparent attempt to control the narrative. They took an issue, entirely of Ogabe’s creation and are now trying to create a national discussion, casting republicans as the villains. Only the lying cockweasels of the MSM are capable of lying, distorting and twisting the truth to fit their need to control the narrative something critical to Ogabelini’s campaign. They’re all on message and keeping ‘it’ on the front page news. They’re getting help from the assholes over at Communist News Network, so David Gergen can mix it all up and then add the race spice into the recipe.

Gergen said, “For a lot of women it sounds like four white guys who are out there telling them, ‘Here’s how we’re going to control your lives’”

Now we can see even more clearly that the Race Card is going to be a HUGE part of Zero’s campaign. The real hquestion is will the nominee get bogged down defending himself against the race card? Yet here we are early-on getting distracted into an entirely made-up issue that is very, very low on the electorate’s interest.

This should be the time we once and for all, kill the strawman of race. We need someone with the guts to tell the race mongers to fuck-off and die, and whatever you do, do NOT act defensive. We all know that defending yourself to these morons will only let them build their phony case more. The race card dragon has been slayed by this administration and the left by being played over and over and over. The Republic knows this game and is damn tired of it being used. That creates an opportunity here, for a hero to drive the stake through the heart of race-baiters everywhere. It only takes the intestinal fortitude to step up with the tools they’ve been given now.

Let’s put an end to these speciously created ‘issues’ and stay on course with real issues. Jobs and the economy. Hell, even Fox has folks that play along and say “the jobs picture is improving”, they’ve fallen for the bullshit statistics used by the left. The economy is most assuredly NOT improving and we shouldn’t help Ogabe by sharing this pretentious statement. Putting any confidence in using fucking faked unemployment statistics as proof, is delusional. How many of us know that the DoL changed their algorithm last year (with approval from the WH), that improves the numbers?

This is WHAT must be on our radar, from now and into the general election. No turning into dead alleys of created issue and crises. No distraction from our message that Ogabe is incompetent, out of touch, and in way way over his head. This Hopey, McChangitude is totally in thrall to his sick ideology and could care less about his effects on real people out here in reality land.

-Carry On

[Oh, by the way it's 83 degrees at the Austin-Bergstrom International Airport as of 1553 CT. Not too shabby for the end of February huh? Just thought you poor bastiches up North and East would appreciate the statistic. I'm an evil fuck, eh?]

18 comments

  1. 1
    Lady H growls and barks:

    THERE WILL NOT BE A BAN ON CONTRACEPTIVES, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD (DESPITE WHAT THE LAME STREAM/OBAMA ENABLING MEDIA WANTS TO TELL YOU.

    All we are saying is DON’T MAKE THOSE OF US WHO BELIEVE IT TO BE MORALLY WRONG PAY FOR IT EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.

    As my priest said at Mass a week and a half ago…”No surrender!”. (He’s a retired Marine officer.)

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    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    Lady H, the lawsuits are already flying. Judges rules here in the People’s Republik of Washington that Pharmacists are NOT required to hand out contraceptives if it is in opposition to a person’s religious beliefs, and I see where a small Religious organization (forget which one, sorry…) is already taking the HHS ruling to Federal court.

    Keep shouting about how there is NO ban on Contraceptives- maybe, just maybe it’ll finally get out to the Great Unwashed Masses eventually. Of course, GUM’s that are Libs are deaf, but others that aren’t might just pay attention. Might. :em08:

    Tell your priest, “Semper Fi!!” :em01:

  3. 3
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    Had Margaret Sanger stuck to her original vision, we may not have had to put up with Ogabe and his BS.
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  4. 4
    LC BU1 IMotBP growls and barks:

    I really hate to say it, but this is kind of missing the point in a way. This is classical Sun Tzu, if you look at it. OF COURSE THE ECONOMY IS THE ISSUE. That is why they are doing everything in their power to misguide, misdirect, and disguise the it. That is their weakness. However, they are ALSO attacking something that is a conservative weakness. It does not matter what anyone says or does, there are enough people that will be misguided by this, and Republicans (notice I didn’t say conservatives) will stumble blindly along right into the trap that is being set.

    Why? Because, somehow, unfortunately, the Republican party, the establishment, the core of it, has been coopted by religious zealots. Now, before I get completely roasted here, and I know I will be for what I just said, consider this, what is really the only common denominator between all the candidates we currently have opposing Bumbles?
    Hint, it isn’t their economic policies, Mittens, even though he’s supposed to be a conservative, is about a carbon copy of the commie we currently have in office… and actually, that applies to more than just the economy, also.
    No, the ONLY common denominator there is, is that they are all religiously devout. Is religious devotion a bad thing? No, of course it isn’t, and you will never hear me say otherwise, except when carried to extremes (Islam) and when applied to politics (In this nation, Christianity in its various forms).

    The majority of posters here are Christian. I know this. But why do I feel so at home here and so accepted here? I’m Pagan, and I am open about it. Why is it that everyone who enjoys this site isn’t all over my ass like white on rice? BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A SET OF MORALS AND BELIEFS OUTSIDE OF RELIGION THAT WE AGREE ON.

    Do I think established religion should be abolished? Hell no, and I’m pretty certain you all know this, also. What I am saying, however; is that religion needs to be removed from government completely. Let churches and temples decide what guidance they teach to their following. Government needs to stay the hell out of it.

    How does that apply here?

    It IS NOT THAT Bumbles IS TRYING TO FORCE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS INTO PROVIDING BIRTH CONTROL THAT IS AGAINST THE MORALS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. What it is, is how Republicans (notice, again, not Conservatives) are presenting their defense of it.

    I don’t know, I will clarify this if anyone would like me to, because I honestly do think that there is something we are all missing here and I think this may have turned into too much of a rant with too many tangents to have made my point clearly.

  5. 5
    wyseguy growls and barks:

    What I find amusing about the contraceptive debate is that the people who for years have screamed and pitched numerous legal fits about the “separation of church and state” are now apparently saying that the wall between the church and the state is a one way wall where religion can’t intrude upon government but the reverse is perfectly acceptable. Further, those who have said for years “my body, my choice” now seem content with the government making choices about their bodies for them.

    To the liberal, standards are good, but double standards are double good.

    I don’t buy that this is really an issue about contraceptives or even women’s reproductive health/choices. This is about the Marxist belief that the state supersedes all. The state must be preeminent and cannot allow any other authority above it. This is about flexing the muscles of the state to squeeze the church out. If religious beliefs (or lack thereof) and the ability to act upon them become subordinate to the state, we’re all in a heap of trouble.

  6. 6
    LC BU1 IMotBP growls and barks:

    @Wyseguy,

    That is exactly part of the point I was making. However, the other half (and I KNOW there are going to be people who disagree with this) is that the opposition: read as Republicans, have somehow become the party of church over state.

    Yes, I know, Republicans are supposed to be the party of conservatives. However, like I said, somehow, somewhere, that fiscal and governmental conservatism disappeared from the party and the only common thread holding anything together for the party anymore is the religious conservatism.

    Now, I may very well be wrong about that, if I am, then by all means, someone should correct me, however one thing I DO KNOW is that whether or not that is true, it IS what the majority of people PERCEIVE. And what do we know about propaganda and using it either for or against something? Perception is EVERYTHING, no matter whether it is the truth or not, if it is perceived as such, then it is.

    That is pretty much the other half of the argument I was making. We really need a truly conservative movement to replace the Republican party to save our nation. When I say conservative I mean small government, a reasonable budget, and a largely Laissez Faire policy about everything else.

    No government, not even our own, should be guided by religious morals. Morals, yes, but not solely derived from religion. I am sure every one would agree when I say the Founders included a separation of church and state for a reason, and a damnably good one, at that. Religion, however, is not the only source of morals that we could look to in order to guide our governance, and the founders knew this.

    The way this should be defended against is not to fall back upon faith and religion and say, “I do not agree with this because I believe it is amoral as a matter of faith”, as the republican candidates HAVE been defending it, which is they way they will always defend it, which is the reason why it is such an easy trap to use against them and make them step on their own dicks. No, the way this should be defended against is to say, “I do not agree with this because it is not a matter in which the State should be involved.”

    Yes, I know, here I am preaching to the choir, but guess what, and I have had this confirmed over and over and over enough times that I could almost say it is a matter of scientific fact, 90% of the population are absolute morons. The overwhelming majority will not even consider the fact that this should not be legislated in the first place, all they will consider is that Bumbles is “trying to create more freedom”, and those evil, ultra-religious, christian taliban, (please tell me if I missed any stereo-types or misrepresentations) Republicans are, “trying to take my reproductive rights away!”

    See what I mean?

  7. 7
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Oh please let’s do have a violent, meaningless argument about contraception, shall we? And while we’re at it let’s also have a meaningless argument about school nutrition? Or a meaningless argument over accidentally burning a fucking Koren child porn? Or a totally fucking meaningless argument whether HRH Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge will wear beige or subdued lime for polo season?

    Meanwhile gas is going to $6 bucks a gallon, unemployment is back to 9.0%, foreclosures are still climbing, the economy is at Depression era levels, Europe is going the way of the Dodo bird, Israel is getting really pissed and getting ready to bomb the living shit out of Armanidinnerjacket, Syria (along with the rest of the Pisslamic world) is disintegrating and our allies are getting really tired of taking it up the ass from the Obongo The Kenyon Klingon Fucker.

    But we MUST have an argument over contraception because that’s the most important thing right, fucking now.

  8. 8
    LC BU1 IMotBP growls and barks:

    I don’t know if your comment was directed toward me, LightID, but if it was, that was the exact opposite of what I was saying.

    The whole point of what I was saying is conservatives need to publicly set the argument into perspective, then move on and bring up the topics (the economy) that government NEEDS to pay attention to.

  9. 9
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    LC BU1 IMotBP @ #:

    No, not at you my friend. Just the brain fucking dead RINOs with the ring in their nose who get pulled around by Limp Dick Media talking about shit that “don’t mean nuthin”.

    It’s kinda like a certain Italian cruise ship Captain telling everybody “Ahh, nothing to worry about, it’s just a little water.”

  10. 10
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC BU1 IMotBP says:

    That is exactly part of the point I was making. However, the other half (and I KNOW there are going to be people who disagree with this) is that the opposition: read as Republicans, have somehow become the party of church over state.

    I get what you’re saying, brother, believe me I do. The thing is that we’re caught in a Catch 22 here. If we don’t stand up for the right of religious organizations (or any given individual for that matter) to not accept being forced to do something that is morally repugnant to their personal principles, then we’re basically accepting that the Fed can order us to do anything they want us to do. If we do stand up for religious freedom in this case then we’re somehow branded as “theofascist Talibans.”

    It’s not just about the rights of the Catholic Church to not fund things that contradict their faith, it’s about every single one of us holding on to our sovereign, creator given (and I really don’t give a shit who you consider your creator) right to NOT do something that violates our principles.

    We can decide that there are other issues more important than this, and I do see the argument there, and focus on the fact that if we continue down the Ogabe trail we’re all fucked and just let the Catholic Church go hang because they’re a distraction from the “real issues”, but then we’ll only have conceded the battle to the ones who believe that the Almighty State is omnipotent and may never be questioned, Bill of Rights or not.

    If we accept that, then the ObamaCare mandate to buy insurance simply because you had the bad fortune to be born becomes a non-issue and we’ll have lost. If we let go of the Ogabe dictatorial decree that freedom of religion is secondary to the power of the state and it isn’t really all that important compared with the other things facing us, then we’ll soon find ourselves remembering Niemoeller’s words about how “first they came for the Jews, but I wasn’t a Jew so I did nothing…”

    Now I KNOW that that’s not what you meant and you DO understand this, I’m just saying that we HAVE to fight it, right now, whether we’re atheists, protestants, catholics, pagans or worshipers of the Great Spaghetti Monster in the Sky.

    Where you’re absolutely right is that the GOP is failing miserably in framing the debate in the proper terms here. They’re currently on the defensive, making it sound as if we’re all theofascist morons trying to ban contraception, which is utterly untrue. What the Party of Stupid needs to get back to is to REFUSE to accept The Narrative™ and to start fighting this fascist power grab on the foundation of every individual’s RIGHT to NOT pay for things that are morally abhorrent to them, no matter WHAT their faith may be.

    And you’re right. The Party of Fail is fucking it up royally.

    It’s not about catholicism, it’s about freedom of conscience in ALL matters.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    At least I’ve learned now, from both the Party of Stupid (hello, Mittens McRomneyCare and your carpet bombardment smear campaigns from your SuperPACS which you have nothing to do with, of course, you worthless sack of rotting shit) and the NSDWP, that the old “no religious test for office” in the actual Constitution is null and void.

    It’s time to start killing the Oath-breaking, honorless, useless fucks.

    Die free or live on your knees. Pick one.
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  12. 12
    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    LC BU1 IMotBP says:

    No government, not even our own, should be guided by religious morals. Morals, yes, but not solely derived from religion.

    And where would you derive such morals? The founders needed something that provided for a solid and immutable foundation of this ordered society. They were not trying to create a church with powers of government or any such nonsense. The founders consisted of brilliant men with the broadest of educations. They indeed studied other societies and what they used for guidance/laws all the way down from the Code of Hammurabi to their own 18th century society. They realized that in order for our form of government to exist, it required that citizens have their own well established personal codes of conduct. This republican form of government will only work with a just and moral people. John Adams is often quoted here: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Why did he specifically state religious people? Because he and the other founders saw liberty as something that is established largely by the principles of the governed, and that they got much of the validation of these personal principles through faith. I submit that faith is the touchstone for the vast majority of our principles, however not all. Obviously, the teachings of the Judeo-Christian faiths, already in use by the vast majority of the country at that time, made for sound decision making.

    LC BU1 IMotBP says:

    Religion, however, is not the only source of morals that we could look to in order to guide our governance, and the founders knew this.

    That’s horseshit. Yes indeed they knew it wasn’t the only source, but rejected the rest in favor of the Judeo-Christian values. This was eminently necessary as many other foundational moral principles can be changed at any time, whimsically or egregiously. The world had seen too many tyrants, that created their own set of morals only to change them dramatically to suit their own ends. Looking at religious teachings, the founder knew that they were something immutable and imbued by the Creator, in whatever form one wishes to use. This took the concept away from the hand of man, placing it with that higher, unchanging, and eternal power.

    LC BU1 IMotBP says:

    I am sure every one would agree when I say the Founders included a separation of church and state for a reason

    Horseshit again. The founders did NOT include this over used and misinterpreted concept. It was only found in Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury (CT) Baptist Association in 1802 and after the Bill of Rights were amended to the constitution, in 1791.

    This is what Jefferson said in that letter:

    “… I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’

    It’s merely an amplification of the 1st Amendment’s establishment clause. The concept is that government should never seek to control religious activity. Nothing here or in other subsequent rulings, can be interpreted as saying it was removing religion from government. It’s strictly a one way street.

    LC BU1 IMotBP says:

    I have had this confirmed over and over and over enough times that I could almost say it is a matter of scientific fact, 90% of the population are absolute morons.

    You are 2000% correct. The electorate consists largely of ADD-riddled morons, surrounded by idiots. One has to question the sanity of the some of the poll respondents, insisting that Ozero is saving the economy. There always seems to be somewhere between 25-30% of these folks that have missed the last 3-years entirely.

    My point here is pretty much in agreement with you. I probably should’ve taken more time writing it. The repubes are entirely sheep and will never see the traps laid by the left. Like we say here- it’s the Party of Stoopid. The dopes here are all over this non-existent contraception controversy, while Ogabe is busy setting up to bypass congress even more than he has already. This is campaign season and for once, I hope the Stoopids man-up and engage the enemy instead of following them. I believe that people of faith are well suited to be our leaders and barring real extreme views. We’ve never elected a religious extremist in this country and NONE of the current crop of candidates remotely fits that description. I see religion as validation for the concept of Liberty as bestowed upon us by the Creator. We cannot eradicate religion from a free society, because religion is a reference point for the Creator’s gift of freedom.

    I totally agree as many here, that we need to dump the Republican party and create a conservative party, no impostors allowed. The damned RINOs can join the other side.

    LC BU1 IMotBP says:

    I know this. But why do I feel so at home here and so accepted here? I’m Pagan, and I am open about it. Why is it that everyone who enjoys this site isn’t all over my ass like white on rice? BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A SET OF MORALS AND BELIEFS OUTSIDE OF RELIGION THAT WE AGREE ON.

    No disagreement here. This is what makes the Rott an awesome site and a natural home for me on the intertubes. We’ve always been a rugged bunch of individuals, entirely capable of biting anyone here as well as the outsiders. You’re entirely welcome to have your own morals and beliefs but should you decide to expound, be ready to defend yourself with facts. This is how we debate here, on facts and the very, very few people that have been banned here refused to honestly debate us. Glad to have you here and stay noisy, it’s a kennel after all.
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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID says:

    Oh please let’s do have a violent, meaningless argument about contraception, shall we? And while we’re at it let’s also have a meaningless argument about school nutrition? Or a meaningless argument over accidentally burning a fucking Koren child porn? Or a totally fucking meaningless argument whether HRH Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge will wear beige or subdued lime for polo season?

    Meanwhile gas is going to $6 bucks a gallon, unemployment is back to 9.0%, foreclosures are still climbing, the economy is at Depression era levels, Europe is going the way of the Dodo bird, Israel is getting really pissed and getting ready to bomb the living shit out of Armanidinnerjacket, Syria (along with the rest of the Pisslamic world) is disintegrating and our allies are getting really tired of taking it up the ass from the Obongo The Kenyon Klingon Fucker.

    But we MUST have an argument over contraception because that’s the most important thing right, fucking now.

    Brilliant, simply brilliant.

  14. 14
    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan says:

    But we MUST have an argument over contraception because that’s the most important thing right, fucking now.

    Exactfuckingly. They really think we’ll play that game, and the hell of it is, we just might.
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    Lady H growls and barks:

    I think I can multi-task and fight multiple battles at the same time, LightD. We happen to so concerned about what this President is doing that both my husband and I cannot watch the news without our high blood pressures going through the roof.

    I even left a comment over at Jenn of the Jungle’s blog that don’t be surprised if our strategic reserves get tapped at least once before the General Election in November.

    I do care.

    I really do.

    But those of us who don’t believe in elective induced abortions are fighting a battle as well. (And the HHS mandate would make my Church’s hospitals, church staffs, charitable organizations, EWTN, etc be FORCED also to pay for the “morning after pill”/abortifacient which is murder of the most innocent and defenseless of all— the unborn child. We give in to this mandate, and President O will next be wanting us to finance insurance plans that include abortion under “reproductive health care”.

    We draw the line, NOW.

  16. 16
    Lady H growls and barks:

    Die free or live on your knees. Pick one.

    I only bend my knees for Christ Jesus. Certainly not the State.

  17. 17
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Lady H says:

    I only bend my knees for Christ Jesus.

    So say we all, Milady Heather, so say we all.

    And I swear I’m going to pop a vein if I hear another Christophobic airhead moron skewering Santorum for mentioning Satan in a speech four years ago at a Christian university. Yeah, that’s what us Christians do, particularly in obvious religious settings: We talk about Christianity. The HORROR! Live with it, you G-d hating freaks, because we’re NOT going to stop.

    People, groups, nations, dictators of various colors have tried to get us to shut up for 2,000 years now. They haven’t been overly successful and, in most cases, it hasn’t worked out all that well for them in the end. Ask the Romans. Ask Hitler. Ask Stalin.

    So just leave us the heck alone already. Or not. We know how to deal with it. We’ve read the book and, spoiler alert, YOU LOSE!

    *Stepping down from soap box and taking a deep breath*

    No, I don’t want non-Christians to shut up, really I don’t, I value and am willing to protect, unto death, their right to disagree with us, I just want them to quit demanding that we shut up.

    I really don’t think that’s all that much to ask for.

    I don’t have a problem with anybody not believing as I do, it does not in the least affect the way I value them as friends, coworkers, allies, fellow human beings, and it’s not “just” because it would be idiotic and, dare I mention, un-Christian on its face to close your mind to others simply because of their different beliefs, it’s also because I, to use the contemporary vernacular, “totally get it.”

    And that’s not just empty words on my part because I didn’t always believe as I do now. As a matter of fact, I used to not believe at all. You would be hard pushed to find a more hard-nosed atheist than what was me a scant 20 years ago.

    For me to “hate” or “look down upon” non-Christians, apart from it being un-Christian to begin with, would require me to “hate” and “look down upon” the younger version of my own damned self.

    Was I wrong then? Yes, I was. Was I a Bad Person™ because of that? No, I wasn’t. I was still me, minus the Christ bit that apparently is too horrid to mention in public according to some. I may have been a bad person, there are probably those who knew me back then who would say so with some justification, but it wasn’t because of my lack of faith.

    MY position is that, no matter what you believe in or even if you don’t believe in anything at all, you should own it. Proudly. Unafraid. Unashamed. Because you have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Unless you are too afraid to mention it in public. Unless your core principles, whatever they might be, it matters not in this case, aren’t important enough for you to stand up for them and take the licks if necessary.

    THAT, my friends, is shameful.
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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    Lady H says:

    I only bend my knees for Christ Jesus.

    So say we all, Milady Heather, so say we all.

    Must disagree Misha, I kneel for no one.