Taking the Imperial Long View™

We’ve been thinking.

Listen, we know that Newt Gingrich isn’t exactly the Perfect Candidate™, but he has got one thing going for him, which is a refusal to roll over. Still, he’s hardly Thomas Jefferson, and we’re not going to be howling hoorah when we pull the lever for him if he’s the candidate, even though we will, because he’s better than SCOAMF by several orders of magnitude (not that it takes much to achieve that).

But that’s not why we’ll pull the lever for him if that’s what it comes down to.

The real reason is this: We have, us true patriots who really do believe in conservatism, free markets and liberty, been talking for years about how to get back in the game. One of the things that comes up constantly is that we have to either take back our party or create a new one, and the best way to take back our party (the least difficult way if you ask us) is to start from the bottom up until we’ve taken over the top like the liberal fascists took over our nation. That is true. That IS the way to go about it.

But we need some victories along the way to motivate the troops. An army marches on its stomach, that much is true, but it also marches on victories, big or small.

My point is this: If we can take down the RINOcracy a peg or two, and nothing would do that better than a unified rejection of their Business As Usual, Losing More Slowly, Establishment Approved Candidates, then we’d have made a giant leap towards final victory. If we could show the RINOcracy that we would rather chew our own arms off than vote for their beloved plastic Dem-lite candidates, then they’d be forced, due to primitive self-preservation, to either give up or go the way of the Dodo.

We have that opportunity now. We can uniformly reject their Golden Calf, their Anointed One, no matter how many camels we have to swallow, and let them know that there IS a line in the sand. That no amount of threats or cajoling by them will make us vote for somebody simply because they told us to, because they told us that they knew better than us who was electable and that we should all just fall in line (like liberal fascists do) and accept their superior wisdom.

We can keep playing their game, which is “no matter how atrociously inept our chosen candidate is, you still have to accept our choice because he’s still better than the alternative”, which will give us nothing but more of the same, or we can hit the establishment who depend on our willingness to stay on their plantation in order to maintain their lives of privilege while the rest of us are losing our jobs and homes right in the face. Because the prospect of losing their DC sinecures and all of the bribes that come with that is just about the only thing that they give a good shit about.

We can kick them where it hurts by voting for somebody who, although not perfect by even the most lenient of standards, is still somebody willing to misbehave and who is loathed by the establishment that all good, patriotic Americans should hate with the fury of a thousand suns.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Until I have no further use for him. I’m not pledging my life to Newt, I’m just saying that as long as he does what I want him to do, which is what will help destroy the RINOcracy, I’m fine with supporting him. And he ought to know that. He’s been in the game for long enough.

Or we could just keep waiting for Mr. Perfect while the Plastic Romneys, Weepy Boners and Mitch McCocklesses keep surfing through lives of ease while shitting their pants laughing at our gullibility.

Pick one.

Thatisall.

19 comments

  1. 1
    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    Alles in Ordung, mein Freund! Oh, wait…

    Go against the Establishment? What are you thinking!?! Can’t have that…

    (My thoughts exactly, My Liege)

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    Listen, we know that Newt Gingrich isn’t exactly the Perfect Candidate™, but he has got one thing going for him, which is a refusal to roll over. Still, he’s hardly Thomas Jefferson, and we’re not going to be howling hoorah when we pull the lever for him if he’s the candidate, even though we will, because he’s better than SCOAMF by several orders of magnitude (not that it takes much to achieve that).

    EVERYbody has warts. Everybody. And even if they didn’t the Alinsky rule means they will. Yeah, “when did you stop beating your wife” will be with us forever. Newt’s “ethics violations”? Wasn’t he found Not Guilty? And yet you mention that he was CHARGED with that and, oh boy he’s evil. He explained the pisslousy couch thing, and stated that he didn’t necessarily believe it was man made, but we need to try to keep the house as clean as we can. And many of the things that get listed as shit he’s done actually do look pretty good at first glance. On paper they’re fine, when enacted they’re exploited.
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    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    Distinguishing between any of the current “front runners” of the GOP requires a finely honed razor. While I agree with His Rottieness’ ideas, I can’t find any reason to feel more confident that Newt will somehow dismantle the RINOcracy than will Romney. They’re both flaming a–holes, just with different facades. They’ve both historically demonstrated far too much willingness to abandon solid, decent, Constitutional principles for political power and expediency. Whatever happened to the “Contract with America” congress? Oh yeah, led by Newt, Army, Boehner, et al., it worked while it had a popular wave to ride, but once re-election, pork, and lobbyist “perks” began to come around, that contract became null and void.

    The foregoing may sound like someone supporting Laup Nor, but it’s absolutely not–unless as some kind of protest vote and I’m not any more interested in wasting my vote than I am in firing warning shots. But I don’t see much point in getting too fired up about Newt in opposition to Romney. To me, they’re pretty much just different sides of the same bad penny.

    God help the GOP, if they don’t get beyond this idiotic self-flagellatory clown show they’ve been putting on, there’ll be absolutely no hope of beating <0bama. But then, if they won't present a serious, consistent, Constitutionalist, States Rights candidate, I'd say they're done anyway. With the current crop, we're probably better off letting the whole thing go right on down the crapper. I've always felt mine and the Rottie Empire's chances during a period of real anarchy were pretty dayum good.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    One of the issues I have with Newt is this: if he cannot/will not stay faithful to his wife, what makes you think he can/will remain faithful to “we the people”? As a Christian, I am having a really difficult time trying to reconcile his infidelity and why I should vote for him. I realize that for most people, that’s a non-issue, but it’s important to me.

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    Mark12A growls and barks:

    Maybe my victory is minor, but I told the telephone hack from the GOP who called me looking for donations there was no freaking way I was going to donate to the party. I’ll select my own candidates, thank you very much. Although I doubt anyone on this forum donates to the party in general…and maybe the Supreme Council of the GOP or whatever doesn’t really give a shit, but if we turn off the money taps maybe they’ll start asking why.

    And maybe one or two of the candidates has actually LISTENED to the “tea party extremists” and heard what middle America is really saying, and is at least trying to align himself with what he’s heard.

    And maybe the horse will learn how to sing.

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    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    I really liked Michelle Bachman until she imploded by going stupid with her comment about the Gardasil shot causing retardation for that one girl. Then instead of issuing a mea culpa, she doubled down on the stupid. She sank herself. That’s too bad, as she would have been light years above Obama.
    Cain came in second until the slime merchants of the DNCLSM decided that he was a threat to the Liberal Plantation as a self-made conservative black man that managed to rise to the top without the aid of Affirmative Action. So the same DNCLSM that covered and obfuscated and misdirected for Billy Jeff decided that Cain had to go.
    Perry was scraping the bottom of the Republican barrel. Yes, he wasn’t a Damn Yankee. Yes, his (and the Texas Legislature’s) policies created jobs in Texas while most of the rest of the country was recording record high unemployment rates. BUT! But, he wanted in-state tuition rates for children of illegal aliens because charging full tuition rates would be punishing children for the sins of their parents. Bullshit, Perry! Sending a goblin to prison also punishes his (or her) children. That doesn’t mean that that parent shouldn’t be sent to prison for his/her crimes. Then he “thought with his heart” (was that the phrase he used?” and used and executive order to mandate Gardasil innoculations for female children in his state. FUCK THAT!
    If the Republican Establishment tries to force another McCain shit sandwich down our throats, just remember that the President needs the permission of Congress to act. The President is not a King … despite what Obama thinks. So, instead of holding your nose or taking a barf bag into the voting booth, either vote 3rd party or abstain in the Presidential race, but vote for the most conservative candidates possible for Congress and Senate. If it takes a bitch slap by the people and a second term for Obama to get the message through to the RINO establishment, so be it. We will hopefully have a House of Representatives willing to Impeach his Disloyal Majesty for abuse of power and other high crimes and misdemeanors, and a Senate willing to convict and remove that particular pimple on the ass of the body politic, and a House and Senate willing to start the reversal of 70 years of creeping marxism. If not, then this country will follow the rest of the great powers of history into the trash heap.

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    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    LC Ogrrre @ #:
    Yeah, you rite, Ogrrre! Why oh why can’t conservatives, like Bachman, recognize that they have to stay absolutely true to the Constitution and its limits on federal power to be viable candidates? As soon as they go off on their personal or religious beliefs and act like they’re going to impose those beliefs on the nation, if elected, they lose. And they should lose, because that is only slightly less odiously wrong than what <0bama is doing. The Feds have no place whatsoever in our homes, our bedrooms, our medicine cabinets, our doctors' offices, our classrooms, or anywhere else beyond the limited sphere of power defined by the Constitution and particularly the 10th Amendment.

    However, I strongly disagree with any kind of abstention or "protest" vote in any election. There is almost always some way to distinguish a better vs. worse candidate, even if the distinction is minor. We have to do all that we can and in the case of getting this Nation back on track politically, it is necessarily a very slow, incremental process. Otherwise, it'll have to be revolutionary, in which case, voting for the worst possible candidate becomes the most effective tactic. Though I'm more ready than most for that latter option, it's not one I want my kids to have to live with, unless absolutely necessary. So let's all try to make our votes count, if only a little bit.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    There is nothing that makes Owebama acceptable now that his motives and methods are known to the independents who took a flyer on him. There is nothing about a Republican that would be swayed into supporting a known subversive this time, even by not showing up. The Paulbots would be write ins if they show up. So Zero gets zero Rs and zero Independents (who may be more to the right than RINOS) and all that is left are the welfare class and the San Francisco LBGT types to support Zero. That is a Reaganesque rout in the making.

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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    Yeah, Mish, I guess that could work (I’d sooner vote for LUAP NOR than Gingrich or any of the other losers vying for the nomination), but to put it simply, a Gingrich presidency is not going to happen. He won’t even be the one on the ballot.

    I love the term RINOcracy, though. It really hits the nail on the head if you look at the GOP from a certain perspective, but those that hold that perspective have truly been had – hoodwinked by those within the party who claim to be conservatives. Truth be told, McLoser, Romneyfart and Nooooot truly represent what the Republican Party is all about.

    Your Royal Highness, with all respect due my own “blogfather” and one of the finest bloggers and greatest minds anywhere, it is WE who are Republican In Name Only. WE are the ones representing the position contrary to what the party stands for. WE are the RINOs.

    Obviously, I don’t share your position that the best way to go about this is to try to change the GOP. All this talk of “taking the party back” is nauseating, to say the least. How do you take back what you never had to begin with? The GOP has never stood for what we stand for. Reagan was elected DESPITE the party’s beliefs, not because of them. Sadly, given the current state of affairs, Reagan would be grossly inadequate today. Today we need Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. Neither of these great minds would give the Republican Party a second look.

    Time for conservatives to move on from the GOP has come and gone, and come again. If the Tea Party is not about the Constitution, then it’s useless as well. Consider this, which is currently being reviewed for 2012. the party or candidate choosing to embrace it will have my vote. Replacing Obama with Obama makes no sense whatsoever. That’s exactly what you will get with Romneyfart, Newwwwt, et al.

    Doesn’t ANYONE remember what happened with Scott Brown?

    RWR
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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    Mark12A @ #:

    if we turn off the money taps maybe they’ll start asking why.

    That’s already been tried – and it has failed dismally. What it will take is enough people refusing to vote for the lame-ass candidates they field. Sadly, the mustang herds will sing in four-part harmony before that happens.

    RWR
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC & IB RightWingRocker says:

    Obviously, I don’t share your position that the best way to go about this is to try to change the GOP. All this talk of “taking the party back” is nauseating, to say the least. How do you take back what you never had to begin with?

    Damn, it’s Reunion Day around here today! :em01:

    The only reason I’m clinging bitterly to my Take the Party Back™ philosophy is that it’s a dang sight easier (if we can SUCCEED in it) than building a whole new party, complete with platform and infrastructure from the bottom up. And even with that not small feat accomplished, it will take a while before that new party becomes enough of a factor to actually start winning elections under our system.

    That’s the Really Long View™.

    So I’d rather take what already exists and subvert (or REvert, rather) it to our cause and it can be done. Just look at what the NSDWP wing of the Democrat Party accomplished to turn that party into something that suits their extremist, Marxist philosophy. If those retarded chimps can turn the Dem Party into Workers’ International in less than a decade, then surely we can yank the GOP back to the right?

    But you may be right, in which case it will be long overdue for us to create a third party. It would be the best long term solution, I prefer new stuff over old crap that has been patched to death, I just don’t know that we’ll have enough time to do so before the whole mess will have to be resolved by, shall we say, “other” means.

    Let’s face it: At the rate things are going, I’d say we’re lucky if we have much more than a decade before the whole sorry mess collapses and that’s just not enough time to found a new party, get it established and get it battle ready.

    For that to happen, we should have started long ago. I’d say the right time to have done so would have been 1992 when RINO Bush the Elder fucked up and gave the presidency to Billy Blow Job. That’s when we should have said “is THIS what they turned the GOP of the Reagan Revolution into? They were given the strongest conservative movement since forever and the heir of it threw it all away???”

    If that had happened, then we might have had a strong, effective conservative third party by now but, as it is, the clock’s run out on us. We can either try to use delaying tactics or throw our hands in the air and wait for the inevitable crash. We can and will pick the pieces up after that, I have no doubt, when it comes to raw force we cannot be beat because we have something we believe in enough that we will happily die for it if need be, but it’s going to be messy. Really, really messy. Revolutions, no matter how desirable the end result, are never pretty.

    On the other hand: If that is what we must have to fix the problem, then by all means bring it, and bring it sooner rather than later so my kids won’t have to fight it.
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    Mittenz ran irretrievably afoul of our consideration in 2004.
    I saw what you did and I know who you are. /creepy whisper>

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech says:

    Mittenz ran irretrievably afoul of our consideration in 2004.

    Oh come now, Cheapshot! Don’t you know that Mittens ObamneyBot is the only True Conservative Who Can Save America™?

    I’ve been making fun of the Ronulans since 2008, but they’re beginning to sound positively sane compared to the MittBots of 2012.
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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    The only reason I’m clinging bitterly to my Take the Party Back™ philosophy is that it’s a dang sight easier (if we can SUCCEED in it) than building a whole new party, complete with platform and infrastructure from the bottom up.

    ya know, Beece and I had a looong conversation, in a hot-tub over ceegars and brews quite awhile back over EXACTLY the same question. We ended up with the same conclusion. While building a new party up, necessarily from the ground up would be the work of a generation, we just don’t have time. The socialists have an accelerated time-line with Ogabe in power.
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    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    ya know, Beece and I had a looong conversation, in a hot-tub over ceegars and brews quite awhile back

    Y’know, that’s a mental image that I really did not need.

    And during dinner, too. Ew… :em05:

    While building a new party up, necessarily from the ground up would be the work of a generation, we just don’t have time. The socialists have an accelerated time-line with Ogabe in power.

    Frankly, it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Second Civil War™ break out before the next midterms, no matter who’s in power. So we’re prob’ly gonna have new parties spring up, no matter what.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    So I’d rather take what already exists and subvert (or REvert, rather) it to our cause and it can be done.

    Only if the Limbaughs and Levins and Becks (wince) call for it. And even then its only a maybe.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    I just don’t know that we’ll have enough time to do so before the whole mess will have to be resolved by, shall we say, “other” means.

    Im not trying to be a smart ass, but deep down inside you know we don’t. The (thankfully) reasonable man inside you doesn’t like what you know is the only viable solution in our lifetime. We are utterly corrupted from the inside out. Politicians, Media, Education System, Economy, Energy.

    Emperor Misha I says:

    I have no doubt, when it comes to raw force we cannot be beat because we have something we believe in enough that we will happily die for it if need be, but it’s going to be messy. Really, really messy. Revolutions, no matter how desirable the end result, are never pretty.

    I agree 100% but its not like were living in a pretty place now, nor is it reasonable to expect it to get any prettier anymore. The fix is obviously in. You’ve seen and lived this nightmare with your own eyes. Would the Berlin Wall have come down without the US support / presence? There is no one to support us once we are under their complete control. If we don’t get them soon, THEY WILL GET US in the future. You know this is true and it is the ugliest truth imaginable. I don’t blame you in the least for your sentiments, I identify with them 100% but I think maybe we should acknowledge our reality and dispense with the would of, should of, could of, thinking. Continuing will just make the horror that much more hard to accept. I’m not trying to be a dickhead or disrespectful but I think this is end game and I agree with Darth Venomous, Spring 2013 is the start of the last quarter.
    Emperor Misha I says:

    On the other hand: If that is what we must have to fix the problem, then by all means bring it, and bring it sooner rather than later so my kids won’t have to fight it.

    Unfortunately prudent parenting has required me to begin training my son for just that necessity. You know how these things go, how many combat soldiers made it all the through the first civil war from start to finish?

    Its a giant shit sandwich and we’re all going to have to take a bite….

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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    LC TerribleTroy says:

    Im not trying to be a smart ass, but deep down inside you know we don’t. The (thankfully) reasonable man inside you doesn’t like what you know is the only viable solution in our lifetime.

    Troy- You nailed it there utterly. The boss is a reasonable man, but would NEVER want to think that he personally had a direct hand in bringing this about, especially one of our little outpost of sanity here. We’ve had so many discussions about the seemingly endless series of events driving us to this resolution by other means. Clausewitz was entirely right.

    Not one of us wants this to happen, we pray it won’t happen, we look for ways to keep it from not happening, but so much (too much) of this is at the hands of our enemies, that it’s probability is so, so small. Us older Mutts don’t fear it so much, because for the most part our kids are grown adults. I’m lucky in mine are totally capable of taking care of themselves. I have grand-kids, but somehow as horrible as it seems, they’re not so much a factor in my personal decision here. IOW-I’m well past my reproductive age, past raising the young’uns, well trained and armed, which makes me an ideal soldier for whatever may come our way. Please L-rd forbid this, but if it IS Your will, let us be worthy of those that made the ultimate sacrifice before us, we’ll also join them at the big campfire if that duty is needed as well. While it’s time for us to pass the torch carrying on our duties as citizens and men, I can still be of some use, if merely as cannon fodder. We’re making the pilgrimage that all Texians must, to the Alamo on Sunday and that sir, will reinforce my resolve without a doubt.
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    LC & IB RightWingRocker growls and barks:

    I don’t mind being the dissenter. Perhaps being blogson of sorts of the Emperor, I don’t have to eat the shit pie I’m constantly fed over at Michelle Malkin’s blog for simply speaking the truth, I thank my amazing blogfather for the civility of your response.

    However, there are many ways of going about putting a “new party” together that can do what we need in much less time. Shit, look how fast the TEA Party stuff got off the ground. Also don’t forget that there are at least two fairly powerful third parties on board who could be consolidated with the proper pitch, and conservative Republicans would come along in droves if they saw the potential in that should it happen.

    I just think we are barking up the wrong tree with the Republicans. They have proven themselves merely a wing of the Democrat Party far too many times for me to believe they are ever going to give conservatives anything to get excited about. Look at the current crop of candidates. The best candidate in the running for the Republican nomination is a guy none of us would willingly vote for (LUAP NOR), and he’s coming in at maybe 10% – even as the ONLY conservative running. If the only conservative in the race is polling that low, that party is NOT going anywhere I want to go.

    Click the link in my prior post. THAT is a platform that will attract conservatives, if they will only read it!

    RWR
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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    LC & IB RightWingRocker @ #:

    Great post, certainly thought provoking. But lets run a optimistic scenario where all goes in our interest. How do you think the enemy will respond to this scenario? They aren’t going to go away quietly. Especially in the initial phases of implementation. We can address the corruption politically in a more immediate fashion than the other areas that are also broken and that will only provide a trickle down to energy and economy, but the effects will take time. In the mean time the educators will continue to undermine our beliefs for another generation and the media will continue to do the same. Reform takes a lot of time and room to maneuver.