2012 Is Coming, You Might As Well Get Ready

And you can safely disregard any and all speculations about who the GOP nominee is going to be, because it ultimately doesn’t matter.

Nor does the outcome, as far as things getting ugly are concerned.

There are two main possible outcomes:

1) Il Douche is trounced in the election, in which case we’ll have the Occutards and their ilk creating mayhem because their affirmative action socialist Ear Leader didn’t get re-elected.

2) The outcome isn’t outside the NSDWP Margin of Fraud, resulting in serious unrest and mayhem as Americans not content with watching their children and grandchildren living in abject poverty under the boot heel of socialism decide that enough’s enough.

Alright, we’ll admit that there is a 2a) here, in which enough ballot boxes containing, unexpectedly!, nothing but votes for Ear Leader are “discovered” lying around in closets, outhouses and walk-in closets to squeeze him through to re-election, but everybody still agrees to accept the obvious fraud in the interest of “civility”, but that doesn’t matter either. It will only delay the inevitable, because when our economy by necessity collapses in a smoking heap of fail as a result of Ogabe and the NSDWP’s tried and untrue policies, it’s going to get ugly anyway.

So you might as well get ready.



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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Verdamt! Schlaffen Sie Niemals, Eure Majestaet?

    Again, probably because I’m baking pies (mmm, pies …) in Spokane and am up late even for PST,


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    Special Ed growls and barks:



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    Special Ed growls and barks:

    Petraeus may not run while he is Active. He may not even speak about his political preferences, more’s the pity.

    DJ, you and I don’t see eye to eye on matters political, or several others for that matter.

    But don’t assume your view is shared by a majority of the People. I don’t assume mine is, either.

    Fortunes have been won and lost betting on the will of the People. By the same person.

    Better off predicting the weather …

    Reminds me, DJ, perhaps you know. Have any studies been conducted concerning climate disruptions due to altering wind patterns/depleting wind energy? I wonder, what with us trying to extract terrawatts of energy from one of our principle atmospheric phenomena, second only to water vapor condensation/precipitation?

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    LC Thresher growls and barks:

    Misha, you forgot Option C: Ron Paul somehow manages to win in a three-way race against Mittens and Ogabe, unshackling the chains of oppressive government with the Sainted Key of Real Money. Unemployment craters to -23% overnight with the legalization of marijuana, and the resulting tax revenues pays off our debt!

    Everything will become Libertarian Nirvana!

    Right up until Iran cranks off a van-borne 10kt nuke and wipes out lower Manhattan because President Paul decided searching vehicles coming into this country was un-American.

    /sarcasm… except for that last bit. Because Paul really is that fuckin’ dumb, and I’m afraid the American people just might be fuckin’ dumb enough to elect him.

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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:


    His Majesty’s latest screed doesn’t sound like someone trying to soften the blow to me. Instead, he is making what I think is a safe prediction, given the way the Democrat Party operates and the realistic nature of a presidential election using our constitution.

    The popular vote is not the issue – it’s getting enough electoral votes to win or (failing that) mustering the required number of senators and representatives in Congress to vote in a President. Hence, the battleground states are key. The Democrats clean up the Northeast and the Left coast. The Republican usually carries the south, the great planes, and most of the Rocky mountain region. The battleground states are Ohio, Florida, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Missouri, and West Virginia. The candidate who wins these, wins the election.

    Given the way the Democrats tried to steal the 2000 election in Florida and how they’ve violated the law in other places to get their folks into office (Senator Al Franken. The name still makes me laugh…), the Republican candidate needs to win by huge margins to avoid a repeat.

    In any case, His Majesty’s warning seems clear: the polarization of America – and the tactics of the Democrat Party in particular – guarantees upheaval in the wake of the 2012 election.

    As to the current slate of Republican candidates, any one of them is far superior to President Obama and would do a better job. I’d say two candidates are out there who would make splendid presidents: Rick Santorum – he’s not getting much traction, but if he could, he’d clean Obama’s clock, and; Michelle Bachmann. They have legitimate Conservative credentials and experience in Washington. Bachmann in particular has an impressive resume’ and could leave President Obama looking foolish in a debate.

    And happy Thanksgiving to you and all the other LM’s.

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    Odahi growls and barks:

    “No one ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the American people.” -Some smart guy.


    I try not to be a pessimist, but we’re now in “rearranging the deck chairs” mode. Is it possible to reverse course and save our collective asses? Maybe, although it’s getting very late, if not TOO late. WILL we reverse course? I really doubt it. There aren’t enough of us who have the will. And the rest will just keep their fingers in their ears, and chant, “lalalalala.”

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Sadly I believe this country will be forced to endure a convulsive change……brutal, stark and unrelenting. A great deal of social PC bullshit will be shitcanned, folks simply trying to eat. The ghetto people, and I’m speaking of attitude as much as locale, will become violent, only to discover the guilt card won’t work any more. I have long since prepped pretty much as best I can given circumstances. With my wifes cancer terminal and my daughters nervous breakdown denying her the ability to walk, I am quite busy here. But I am determined to stand my ground….in this town you have good friends, simply by being one. Just three houses on my street, mine and the homes on either side of me, we could collectively field five shotguns, at least five rifles and six pistols.
    I will stand my ground……………..and thank God for the second amendment………..
    As for the elections….? It sickens me………..both parties, both sides……….
    I do find it delightfully ironic the baby boomers, meaning my generation, will finally get their just reward for their past indescretions……….
    In the meantime I keep a low profile…..

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    When it comes to that, to the extent that I can offer any of my fellow LC’s some ammo, an MRE, or a place to sleep, I look forward to it. There is some comfort in knowing that there are brothers and sisters in arms out there.

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    I’m afraid Caveman might have the right of it. Sorry to hear about your daughter. You and your wife are still in my prayers.

    Not to change the subject from doom and gloom, but Happy Thanksgiving to all Rotties everywhere.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain says:

    Rick Santorum – he’s not getting much traction, but if he could, he’d clean Obama’s clock

    When Perry first hit I was ready to toss all my support his way until some Texas friends cautioned me to hold up. I’ll toss out the same advice on Santorum. I’ve lived through having him as a senator, and I trust him……. I know he’ll screw me at the first chance.

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    0007 growls and barks:

    DJ – the difference between a “consensus” of democraps complaining about repukes stealing elections and repukes complaining about democraps stealing elections is that one can go all the way back to the Kennedy/Nixon election to show the domos stealing elections whereas repukes, not so much or so often.

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    LC Spare Parts growls and barks:

    The last President of the United States was Reagan. Every president since has acted as president of the Washington Establishment. WE don’t matter to Them at all. We are an entity to be subjugated. What they offer us is nothing more than different kinds and degrees of servitude. After 25 years of RINO treachery, total disregard for Constitutional limits on Federal power, and Our Rights trampled wholesale due to moral cowardice of self serving officialdom, there’s nothing left of any public institution worth defending. The most ominous prospect we face is the under the table alliance between the the DNC and RNC hierarchies dedicated to insuring that Conservatives have no candidate to vote for on election day next year. But they’ve been doing that since FDR.
    Half the population is no more qualified to hold a job than they are to draw another breath. These incompetent parasites will swamp the producers sooner rather than later. The predators in our midst will join together and attack the suburbanites who’s street smarts are in negative figures. Those in law enforcement unlike us will freelance for themselves. Our America is already a memory. Just keep your sword brothers on speed dial and make sure your old CB’s work. Soon enough they may be all we have as your property will be limited to what you can hold by force of arms or carry at a dead run.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    It has been my position that DJ’s highly regarded “independant ” voting block is much smaller than he thinks due to polarization. Therefore they don’t hold the impact of the past.

    If Bush stole the election then the democrats have no testicular fortitude. If I truly believed an election was stolen from me, I would be required to respond accordingly. And my response would not cease with legal remedies.

    With the euro collapse on the horizon, with Iran with nukes, with this full court socialist press with this admin, does anyone really think happy days are on there way? Enjoy your turkey, next year at this time the world will be a different place.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Said the Deejinator to Darth Misha:

    Already throwing in the towel? Because all I am seeing is you trying to talk yourself into reasons why Obama won re-election.

    DJ seems surprised at Misha’s pessimism, then offers his own brand, which is something like: nothing matters, Big Money controls everything, resistance is futile–or, to quote a cartoon character of yesteryear, “We’ll never make it. I just know we won’t.”

    Say what you will about Andy Jackson; he ostensibly claimed, “One man with courage is a majority.” In my opinion there are enough here to make quite a few majorities!

    I may only be throwing out slogans, but that’s because (and here comes one now), as Privateer Jones said, “I have not yet [physically–X.] begun to fight!”

    Dum spiro spero.

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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    I agree that President Obama is a symptom of a much larger problem (or set of problems). Two such monoliths come to my mind instantly.

    1. Ignorance of our Constitution and our fundamental philosophical underpinings. America is the anti-socialism / anti-tyranny. Sadly too many see it as just one bull-headed opinion. Part of this ignorance is institutional, the other part cultural. In both cases, America moves rapidly towards its demise as people see the socialism of the Democrat Party (and its incarnation in the current President) as a valid American expression of politics.

    2. Consumerism / Celebrity culture. Advertising and the drive to produce markets for goods and services warps America’s vision of reality. Too much time in front of a TV set (guilty!) and even the Internet with its twisted, slanted, dishonest messages intended to sell stuff is soul poison. Part and parcel of this is the stilted worship of stupid people who somehow get the attention of the media. Hence people seem more interested in who Jennifer Anniston is dating than the horrendous debt piled on by the last Congress or the insane bailouts of the last Bush administration and their enablers in the Congress.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Do you realize how much money is tied up in all of these “derivatives” the Banksters and Wall Street

    I’m aware of it Dave, and you are correct, given my studies of the Federal Reserve, fractional banking and the present system of crony capitalism now being implemented. I play with numbers, and derivatives scare the shit out of me. There is simply no way to fix this. Banks and governments will not be simply impoverished, they will be destroyed. And who do you think th government will protect? Who have they protected? Fascism will prove the end result until we have a clean capitalist system again, if possible. Personally I doubt it. Our government protects the banksters when it should be prosecuting them. These banks should have gone bankrupt, the economy would have cleaned it up without government help. Of course the shareholders would have killed the management, but no great loss there. That is clean capitalism. Politicians like Barney Frank should be rotting in prison. And he is but one of many I could name. Sadly, until punishment is swift, sure and severe any further deregulation will result in more abuses, Glass Steagal a prime example. There is great historical precedent for this…..I wish it were different….so very much I wish.
    I am infuriated with government meddling in these affairs, they creating far more problems then they solve….I am angered by these idiot socialists decrying capitalism when captialism is not the problem, socialism never works. Look at Europe. Or…etc. The banks must have something on the government………..perhaps some interesting revelations could be brought to light involving certain politicians….I would love to be a fly on the wall.
    I hope for the day we have a clean capitalist system….free of foolish government regulation…….I doubt I will live to see it.,,,but I am willing to die seeking it.

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    lawmanjed growls and barks:

    LC Thresher – why do you conclude that Ron Paul, because of his obvious anti-imperialist stance, is somehow not interested in national defense. Why is it that he has overwhelming support from or active military. Is it possible they know something that you do not? Is his refusal to condemn Iran’s warmongering threats against Israel and the US – the lesser and great ‘Satans’ – clouding your judgment. He has called for an end to foreign aid. Some say he is therefore anti-Israel. But we give far more in foreign “aid” to Israel’s enemies than to Israel. He has stated clearly that he would rather not tell Israelhow to defend themselves. Whereas previous US administrations have pressured and influenced Israel to do just that. Tell me exactly what it is that you fear from a Ron Paul presidency.

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    lawmanjed growls and barks:

    sorry for the typos – rushing off to Thanksgiving dinner – and Happy Thanksgiving to you all!

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    LC Thresher growls and barks:

    Tell me exactly what it is that you fear from a Ron Paul presidency.

    I fear a return to a foreign policy that ceased making sense in the 1880s.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Just jumping in here to say thank you for the free psychotherapy. Of course, just like paid for psychotherapy it’s pretty useless, but at least it doesn’t come with a price tag.

    “Throwing in the towel?” Really? The only thing I’m doing is making the observation that no matter who wins in 2012, there’s going to be plenty of Teh Ugly™ and therefore it makes sense to prepare oneself for the inevitable.

    I suppose I could have added that, no matter what, the final outcome of Teh Ugly™, once the dust settles, is going to be favorable to the side who actually gives a shit about what this nation is all about as envisioned by the “dead white men” without whom we wouldn’t have a nation. The White Hats will win, it helps immensely when one side has a near monopoly on force and skills, but it’s still going to get ugly before we get there.

    Which is why all of us would rather that it never gets to that point, but once you realize that things are coming to a head, you might as well prepare to make the transition as quick and painless as humanly possible.

    This is “throwing in the towel?”

    Well, if roping your sails and battening down the hatches when you see a storm on the horizon as opposed to pretending that it’s not there at all is “throwing in the towel”, then I suppose you might have a point. It’s just that I’ve survived a number of nasty storms at sea and it sure as Hades wasn’t because I refused to acknowledge the storm’s presence and just carried on regardless.

    And then I made the observation that Il Douche couldn’t possibly win the next election honestly. Please, this is somehow not a simple observation? He and his First Wookie are currently ranking below Yersinia Pestis in the polls. Jimmeh Cah’duh was positively adored by the people before he got steam-rollered compared to SCOAMF’s current standing.

    I would agree that constantly saying “he is going to steal the election” might sound like something a liberal would say if, and only IF it wasn’t for the fact that the Democrats have a long and rather well-documented history of actual organized election fraud and actual voter intimidation tactics, as opposed to the liberals’ claims about the GOP which, to this date, have not been substantiated by anything even remotely resembling actual evidence. No matter how hard the DNC’s propaganda arm, the MSM, have tried and they’ve tried pretty damn hard.

    For example: In spite of numerous “recounts” conducted by the media after 2000, and no matter how absurdly their “recount” methods would favor the NSDWP, not even the New York Times could come up with a scenario under which Gore would have won Florida. Or how about all of the liberal allegations of voter intimidation in Florida? Not a single one of those idiotic claims has in any way been supported by actual evidence. As opposed to the very real Black Panther incident in 2008 which, because it was so well documented and proven, was immediately swept under the rug by Accessory to Murder Holder’s “Justice” Department.

    Ohio in 2004? Puh-lease. What was the margin of victory there again? Tens of thousands? Let’s be real here: The Party of Stoopid couldn’t organize a clusterfuck in a Thai whorehouse during Fleet Week, yet we’re supposed to believe that they could somehow manage to manufacture a few tens of thousands of votes for Dubya without a single soul in the know coming out to blow the whistle on it?

    That kind of crap makes the Alex Joneses sound like veritable prophets of truth.

    I’m not “preparing myself for the inevitable Obongo victory” or “throwing in the towel.”

    I’m merely observing, as anybody who actually bothered to read what I wrote would know, that A) things are going to get ugly no matter who wins in ’12 and B) there is no way that the most unpopular president in the history of the United States can win reelection without resorting the fraud for which the NSDWP have become justifiably and provably known.

    “Throw in the towel?”

    Frack, I haven’t even begun to fight.

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    lawmanjed says:

    Is his refusal to condemn Iran’s warmongering threats against Israel and the US – the lesser and great ‘Satans’ – clouding your judgment.

    ‘Sharpened it, I’d say.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Socialism never works. It never has worked, it never will work, because it’s based on the foundation that human beings aren’t what they actually are.

    To suggest anything other than that, especially considering that socialism has been batting a 0.000 average throughout human history is nothing but delusional.

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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    A combination of socialism and capitalism? Hmmm….I don’t think that was in the minds of the Founders, DJ. They wanted to balance the problems associated with the dark side of the human condition by building in certain safeguards that confounded government’s tendency towards the tyrannical.

    Adam Smith does a wonderful job explaining the built in correctives to capitalism…and they work. Just ask Circuit City’s former CEO. Or Border’s books. Or Arthur Andersen.

    When government interferes with the free market’s corrective impetus, disaster generally strikes. GM’s business model hasn’t changed…which only prolongs the inevitable. Same with Chrysler. Or TARP. Or Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac.

    The founders understood that economic freedom, not government, is the key to advancing society and filtering out the problems inherent with commerce.

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    lawmanjed growls and barks:

    LC Thresher – What evidence do you have that President Paul would not exercise strong efforts to secure our national defense as any of the other candidates would or recent Presidents have done? Your suggestion that the delivery of a 10kt nuke in a vehicle would somehow be prevented by “the searching of vehicles coming into this country” is ludicrous. Just how do you propose to search virtually all vehicles entering this country so as to prevent such an act? Has Paul indicated that he would absolutely rule out the searching of vehicles if warranted by intelligence. What makes you think that “Paul really is that fuckin’ dumb”? It seems you have built up a straw man only to knock him down without seriously considering his positions. He has repeatedly made it clear that our national defense, including the defense of our border, is his highest priority. Please do not confuse his rejection of globalist militarism with isolationism. The best defense is a strong homeland, not an over-extended, imperialistic, offensive-minded military.

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    tweell growls and barks:

    D.J., your statements were fairly well parsed. Paraphrasing, you said that if one group won, the other would cry foul. In that you are absolutely correct.
    However… which party has been caught cheating more? I will not claim that Republicans have never done so, but I would be surprised if they have more than 20% of the proven election frauds (the last time I checked, it was ~10%). Please do not try to claim that the Republicans just don’t get caught. Given the lack of competence repeatedly demonstrated by the Party of Stupid, that just isn’t credible.

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    LC George, Apocryphal Prophet growls and barks:

    Communism can be extremely successful, when it’s voluntary and practiced among small groups within a larger free-market framework.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Again, with the moderation? Sup wid dat????

    Thanks, invisible mod who got me out.

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    Shaitana growls and barks:

    Quit hijacking and let the rest of us converse for fucks sake. Please?

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Shaitana @ #:
    Converse away. No one’s stopping ya.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. says:

    Not at all. But you seem more irritated with the things I say than with practically anyone else here (with the exception of Ranger or Gladiator),

    Skye… Glad you noticed that. If it wasnt for Mishas open mindedness, DJ would have tomb stoned me years ago

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    Shaitana growls and barks:

    Sniffs at the bait.

    Nah, not going to bother.


    Got to say I tend to agree with the original post on this one though. Things will get uglier before they get better. Our ‘ruling’ class, be they Ds or Rs, need some seriously schooling.

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    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    I have no problem disapproving of Obama. But you don’t see me calling him “Obongo” or draw pictures of him with bones in his nose. No, instead I just talk about how I disagree with him — without referring to his race or his wife being an animal-like creature.

    I think you are the biggest racist on this board, but then most marxists are.

    But hey, DJ, I wonder if you remember these words:

    I have officially resigned from the Rott, lock, stock and barrel. No more posting account, no more comments, no more debate. I am through. Finished.

    And these words:

    Take care of each other. Please, don’t think about me any longer. I am gone.


    Good Golly, marxists are really bad about keeping promises.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    DJ sez:

    You’ve got me confused with someone else. I have NEVER claimed that Communism, Socialism or Capitalism, or any other -ism has worked. They haven’t.

    Oh really?

    I found the following posted in comment 19 on the “She Who Will Not Be Recused” thread by DJ on November 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM:

    Socialism and Communisim has worked in places — and still is.

    Score one for the Grammar Czar. 😀

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    But you don’t see me calling him “Obongo” or draw pictures of him with bones in his nose.

    I remember back when your “You are all racists” crusade was reaching a fever pitch, you conceded that “Obongo” was a play on his name and not a racist reference about The Chosen One.

    As far as people here drawing pictures of Obama with “bones in his nose”, I don’t seem to recall that at all.

    I do remember a photo floating around the interweb with ” rel=”nofollow”>Obama portrayed as a witch doctor in context with the Obamacare “debate” but it didn’t originate from here.

    I chalked it up as clever but in poor taste, much like the ” rel=”nofollow”>Obama caganer.

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    LC Grammar Czar, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Yay, E-man. Thanks. *Hi-5*

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    DJ sez:

    And in each of those cases, they have that little mixture of Capitalism thrown in.

    Funny how you didn’t mention anything about “a little mixture of Capitalism thrown in” when you made your statement.

    Nice try.

    DJ sez:

    Conceded? Not really. I got tired of arguing about it.

    No, you definitely conceded that point but to be fair, I’d get tired of throwing around ridiculous leftist memes as well.

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    Lady H growls and barks:

    Heh heh, EM! :em05: