We’re Not Worried At All

Thanks to LC & IB Bill Quick, we learn that apparently there are some on the right, or at The American Thinker at least, who aren’t exactly 100% sure that they should celebrate al-Alwaki’s recent departure to hell. No, the writer is not all verklempt that al-Alwaki’s no longer here, we do have the obligatory acknowledgments that the world is a better place without the terrorist bastard, BUT…

But it is worth noting that the United States government has killed a United States citizen without any judicial sanction, merely on an executive branch decision. A line has been crossed, and there are people on both the left and right side of the political spectrum who are given pause by the precedent and prospects for the future.

We’re with Bill Quick here completely. The line that was crossed was crossed by al-Alwaki when he decided to wage war against his homeland because, as the Oath says, those of us who gave it are obligated to defend the Constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic.

There is no “but you get special treatment if you’re an American citizen waging war against us” clause in there.

Al-Alwaki wasn’t “assassinated” (as you so cutely put it) because he owed back taxes or had written a scathing blog post about Ogabe, he was killed because he was waging war against the U.S. It is not only perfectly legitimate for the Commander-in-Chief, no matter who he is, to issue that order, it is his sworn duty to do so.

But you’re right that there are those who should be “given pause”, not because of an enemy combatant who just so happened to be a U.S. citizen getting killed as a result of waging war against us, but because of their seeming lack of understanding of the whole “…and domestic” part of the Oath. They just seem to be all on the same side (not ours) and they all seem utterly unaware of the implications thereof.

Hopefully for them and our nation, they’ll wake up before it’s too late for them.

Thatisall.

P.S.: To preempt any nonsense about his “being killed in Yemen which is not a war zone, waaaaaah”, allow us to quote this:

However, tribal sources told AFP that Awlaki was killed in an air strike which hit two vehicles in Marib province, an al Qaeda stronghold in eastern Yemen early Friday.

So, if the Brits or the French had taken the opportunity to blast the shit out of Adolf Hitler while he was in Paris, celebrating the capture thereof (but before the French had surrendered, therefore making them “not an enemy”), then that would have been an “assassination” too?

32 comments

  1. 1
    Igor, Imperial Booby growls and barks:

    So, if the Brits or the French had taken the opportunity to blast the shit out of Adolf Hitler while he was in Paris, celebrating the capture thereof (but before the French had surrendered, therefore making them “not an enemy”), then that would have been an “assassination” too?

    According to the liberal loony leftists, YES.

    Which is why they are Liberal. Loony, and Left. No discernible ability on their part to actually think, y’know?

  2. 2
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Liberals and idiots, (As if there’s a difference), will say we should have arrested those two and tried them in a court.

    In some ways, they are correct. If they had walked into any American embassy and surrendered themselves, they would have been entitled to the full protection of the Constitution and laws of this nation.

    This includes a fair and speedy trial followed by the execution of sentence. :em01:

    However, since they didn’t and were in the process of committing repeated acts of treason, (Taking up arms against the United States), they were fair game.

    There is precedent for this. After all, the Union forces didn’t try to arrest the Confederate forces, they just shot them on sight.

    The confederates did commit treason by taking up arms against the United States. Oh, the Union did not recognize the Confederate States, so legally they didn’t exist.

    So should we all head over to the democrat underground and toss logic at them? It’s always fun to watch their pointy heads explode when violently impacted with things like logic.
    :em07:

  3. 3

    Exactly right, moy bratik!

    The oath says, “Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Anyone who wages war on this country is an enemy. If he happens to be a citizen (why he was allowed to hold dual citizenship, I’ll never know), and he’s waging war on his fellow Americans, he’s a domestic enemy.

    Glad to know he’s getting sodomized by pigs in hell.

  4. 4
    LC Guy S growls and barks:

    AWM got it in one! Had the “former” American, found his way to the nearest embassy, THAN his constitutional rights would have kicked in. As it was he was:

    1. An unofficial combatant (akin to a spy, terrorist, or other civilian malcontent) meaning he was not a member of any recognized nations military. To the best of my knowledge, there is no restriction on any government. tracking. and upon finding, allowing said traitor to assume room temperature as quickly as possible.

    2. In the wrong place at the right time! Sucked to be him. Hope he likes his 72 raisins.

  5. 5
    Sir Fresh Sign growls and barks:

    Ask me if i CAIR

    CAIR, Civil Liberties Groups Question Killing of American Militant Without a Trial

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/30/cair-decries-killing-american-militant-without-due-process/#ixzz1ZTyJtl2e

    and it was a two-fer:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/30/family-jihadist-blogger-tried-intervention-before-left-for-yemen/

  6. 6
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    WHEN YOU COMMIT TREASON YOU GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN

  7. 7
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    OBAMA IS A WAR CRIMINAL. IMPEACH AND IMPRISON HIM NOW !!!!

  8. 8
    LC/IB PrimEviL growls and barks:

    Good. One less apostate*, traitorous, treasonous terrorist assmaggot on the loose.

    Wish I could have been the one to push the “fire” button.

    *(The punishment for apostasy under Islam is death. Why not hold them to their own rules?)

  9. 9
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but guess who else considers it an “assassination”…?

    Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is condemning the Obama administration for killing an American born al-Qaida operative without a trial.

    Paul, a Texas congressman known for libertarian views, says the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki on Yemeni soil amounts to an “assassination.” Paul warned the American people not to casually accept such violence against U.S. citizens, even those with strong ties to terrorism.

    To those of you who, even briefly, considered voting for him to be the GOP nominee…I trust I’ve made my point.

  10. 10
    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    I am one of those “concerned” by this. Very concerned.

    There is no “but you get special treatment if you’re an American citizen waging war against us” clause in there.

    Not in the Oath, no. But there IS such a clause. It’s Sec. 349 of the Immigration and Naturalization Act:

    (a)–A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality –

    (1)–obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

    (2)–taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

    (3)–entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serves as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

    (4)–(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof after attaining the age of eighteen years, if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof after attaining the age of eighteen years, for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or
    ….
    OR

    (7)–committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of Title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of Title 18, or violating section 2384 of Title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.

    Take your pick on which subsection to choose. Subsection (7) seems appropriate, but one of other the others wouldn’t require a trial in absentia for treason.

    Barack Obama is actually UPHOLDING his Oath in this case. Incidentally perhaps; but, he’s defended America and the Constitution against an enemy. He’s also set an unchallenged precedent for doing so against all those that HE BELIEVES are “enemies foreign OR domestic”.

    Go ahead, read that last sentence out loud. IT MEANS YOU!

    Or, re-read that first sentence in the Bill Quick quote:

    But it is worth noting that the United States government has killed a United States citizen without any judicial sanction, merely on an executive branch decision.

    Remove all context from that statement. Forget about Awlaki for two seconds. The statement stands — and it IS precedent.

    But, that’s O.K. because it’s someone you wanted dead anyway. I wanted him dead, too. However, I was willing to wait for a simple administrative decision (a secret one, if need be) to avoid having the precedent set that it is entirely up to the President to decide which U.S. CITIZENS need killing and which don’t. I wonder why no one here would have been willing to wait for this (as I heard no constant shouting for Awlaki’s head EVERY SINGLE DAY from anyone). But, more than that, I wonder why Barack Obama didn’t want to wait?

    You’re in favor of the decision today; but you won’t like its consequences later. The precedent may one day have its succedent; and, when and if it happens, I’d be happy to say “I told you so”, but I’ll already be dead.

    Go ahead, say it can’t happen here. Say it can’t happen at all. Say there isn’t a chance in Hell that Obama gets re-elected.

    Now say that someone just like Obama only worse can’t be elected when your great-grandkids are of voting age.

    There are non-violent means to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies. There have to be. Because if violent means are used, it means we’re ALREADY in a HOT war (i.e. revolution, civil war, etc.).

    But now, once El Presidente has a whim to declare you an “Enemy of the State”, that’s it … SEAL Team 6 doesn’t knock on doors, or serve warrants, or let anyone even see them.

    I find the number of conservatives who either don’t understand, or dislike, the Rule of Law disheartening.

  11. 11
    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    Neal Boortz (heard just this minute):
    “I think if you’re a U.S. citizen, you have a right to stand up and say ‘this country sucks’. But, as soon as you stand up and start inciting people; you deserve a Hellfire missile with your name on it.”

    SWEEEET!! :em01: :em01:

  12. 12
    LC SmokeyBehr growls and barks:

    @Samsapeel: 18USC2385 is the operative law that triggers Subsection 7:

    Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

    Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof–

    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

    If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

    As used in this section, the terms organizes and organize, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

    He’s done everything in bold over the last few years, and the evidence is all over JihadTube…

  13. 13
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Samsapeel1:

    But now, once El Presidente has a whim to declare you an “Enemy of the State”, that’s it … SEAL Team 6 doesn’t knock on doors, or serve warrants, or let anyone even see them.

    Neither do we.

  14. 14
    LC Proud Infidel growls and barks:

    Another terrorist head honcho has been sent to hell, time to celebrate! I’ve been having a ball bashing the pissy-diapered trolls at Human Events and cns News on his alleged “rights” that he surrendered when he decided to wage war on the USA!

  15. 15
    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Hamas: ‘Resistance’ against Israel is only option left for Palestinians

    Hamas leader Khaled Meshal addresses Tehran conference ‘in support of the Palestinian Intifada’; Iranian supreme leader tells conference that UN bid for statehood will fail.

    Hamas leader Khaled Meshal told an international conference in Iran on Saturday that “resistance” was the only option left for the Palestinians.

    Meshal was addressing the “5th International Conference in Support of the Palestinian Intifada” in Iran’s capital Tehran.

    “Palestinians must resort to resistance no matter how costly it is, until Palestine is free and Israel is destroyed,” Meshal said.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hamas-resistance-against-israel-is-only-option-left-for-palestinians-1.387504

  16. 16
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    What’s new about these rantings from a HamAss honcho? Hasn’t this “resistance” crap always been the Philistine leadership’s default position?

    P.S.: Resistance is futile. Bwahahahaha!

  17. 17
    dasbow growls and barks:

    It’s simple, really. If you go to war against us, we go to war against you. See how well that works out for you.

  18. 18
    spc67 growls and barks:

    I suppose I understand the general concern about the Feds killing citizens. In general it is a terrible thing.

    But in THIS case it isn’t even a close call. These jokers “provided aid and comfort to the enemy.” They have committed treason and are now belligerents.

    Unless they are easily captured (and I mean EASILY) summary execution is entirely appropriate.

  19. 19
    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Why was Awlaki (oil lacky?) even considered an American citizen? In what way was he American? What thing did he have in common with us? Fluency in the English language? If that is the criterion, then it is time to declare non-citizens several million cholos in the Southwest. And many more gangbangers and Ebonics babblers in our big cities. The purported citizenship of al-Awlaki raises substantive questions about the wholebirth citizen/anchor baby mess.
    Dduring WWII there were a miniscule number of Americans who deserted to Germany and served in the SS. Would it have been necessary to drop injunctions and legal warnings on their positions prior to attack? This whole fubar resulted from Bush’s deranged deciision to curry favor with his political enemies by treating he war as a legal matter instead of as a war. Time to tighten up our definition of citizenship.

  20. 20
    irish19 growls and barks:

    I’m in the minority here, but I agree with Samsapeel. I think this is something that could come back and bite us on our collective asses if we’re not careful.

  21. 21

    angrywebmaster says:

    However, since they didn’t and were in the process of committing repeated acts of treason, (Taking up arms against the United States), they were fair game.

    Exactly, thank you for my answer! The Emperor had said almost exactly what I had thought of writing this morning, so I was just going to link this post, but you’ve just condensed the entire argument into one sentence.
    Then Nicki, then Guy, and then
    LC Gladiator says:

    WHEN YOU COMMIT TREASON YOU GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN

    Beautiful! and even the lefty bonzos should agree with the next one from the same author.
    Darth Venomous @ # 9: Just completely finished the Ron Paul concept within any possible window.
    Sams, back there at 10 & 11, which one is the right one? This fuckwad had been actively inciting against America. What was said by spc67 @ # 18: I find absolutely correct in this case. Dipshit deserved nothing more than death. What Rurik said at 19 I found extremely thought provoking, and irish19, as far as domestic enemies in a very high and public place? It would appear to me that our nations capital needs a similar treatment.

  22. 22
    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician says:

    Sams, back there at 10 & 11, which one is the right one? This fuckwad had been actively inciting against America.

    Sorry, sarcasm doesn’t always come across in writing, and I hate using “sarc” or “/sarc” as it defeats the purpose.

    I was being sarcastic with my response to the Boortz quote. It isn’t “sweet”, it’s insane; because all that’s required is someone else’s (Obama’s, the media’s, the Left’s, Harry Reid’s) perspective on what constitutes “incitement” — especially when there’s a communist in charge of where we put those HellFire missiles.

    Chalk my entire argument up to quibbling over semantics if you like, but statements like those of AngryWebmaster and LC Gladiator are simply factually inaccurate. You do NOT give up your rights as a citizen by committing treason. They are taken from you after you have been tried and convicted of treason.

    As for the Confederacy, there were formal Declarations of Secession by the Southern States (whether most or all, I’m not sure). This would be the equivalent of Awlaki having sent a signed, notarized letter formally relinquishing his U.S. Citizenship.

    As for Americans-turned-NAZI, Section 349(a)(3) of the INA would have applied. It does not apply to Awlaki.

    All of that is moot, however; the point is that it is NOT SOLELY up to the President to make such determinations.

    All I ask is that there be somebody — whether Congress, the Judiciary, or even an ALJ — who can, by law, rescind or revoke citizenship for some discernable reason, before Obama starts giving orders to have them killed for good reasons, bad reasons, or no reason at all.

    Did Awlaki make war against the U.S.? Yes. Did he commit treason? Of course. Did he do all of the terrible things he’s accused of, and then some? You betcha.

    You know he did. I know he did. Everyone knows he did.

    We also all know that O.J. killed his wife; that Michael Jackon molested little boys; and that Casey Anthony had something to do with killing her kid.

    The point is that PROCESS is important. At some point, process may be all that stands between you and prison or death. Actually, right now process IS all that stands between you and false imprisonment and/or summary execution.

    It might be a good idea not to fuck it up.

    I will repeat:

    I find the number of conservatives who either don’t understand, or dislike, the Rule of Law disheartening.

  23. 23
    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    I should note that I am not a lawyer. And, if I were a lawyer, I doubt that this area of the law would be my specialty. The Act that I cited may not be the best or most appropriate way to go about revoking Awlaki’s (or anyone’s) citizenship.

    If not, I apologize, but it doesn’t take from my argument that there should be some legal procedure and decision (by someone other than JUST the President) to revoke citizenship from people like Awlaki BEFORE they are summarily executed. Without such procedure, every U.S. Citizen becomes subject to death at one man’s whim.

  24. 24
    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    Thinking more has made me mightily pissed off. Don’t like me? Fine. Don’t believe me? Also fine. Don’t listen to me? Don’t worry, nobody does.

    Nevertheless, I give it one last shot.

    Read what someone else has to say: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/278845/assassin-chief-kevin-d-williamson

    That’s the first and only one I bothered to link. I didn’t even read it to the end. Too pissed.

    “Aww, nobody wikes da Consthituthion anymoah. Nobody caihs ’bout da Wule o’ Waw. Sepawathion of Powah. And ouw Pwesiden’ i’n eben a U.Th. thitithen. An’ ‘e’s a ssssoshawist, too.”

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

    You’re willing to give THIS “pass” to a man who you say you despise, and who threatens this country far more than Awlaki ever dreamed? THIS “pass”?! THIS ONE?!?!? The very, very, very ultimate, uttermost, absolute final one that should EVER be given ….. EVER?!?!?

    And you don’t even bat an eyelash. Why? Because Awlaki was a very bad man.

    Great.

    Just fucking great.

    Like Awlaki’s the only one. There’s no more bad men out there now.

    You know, you here at The Rott (and elsewhere online) are …… rather, were ….. the last, best hope for the continuation of liberty and the principles that the American nation was founded on.

    Now, with this one thing. A thing that could easily have been done differently. A thing that could easily be fixed ….. beforehand. With this one seemingly small thing, you would give it all up. Make yourselves liars and fools. Potentially fuck up freedom IRREVOCABLY FOREVER … for EVERYBODY.

    If I could find a word in my dictionary to adequately summarize my disgust, my loathing, I’d type it. I can’t.

  25. 25
    LC Draco growls and barks:

    We have actually gone from one extreme to the other. I know air strikes that were called off due to a JAG officer telling the Division Commander, “We might have issues”. Pissed me off.

    We are in a war that started over a decade ago and will continue for the foreseeable future. There are checks and balances, but when it comes to mil ops, back the fuck off and let us do our jobs!!

  26. 26
    spc67 growls and barks:

    Samsapeel,

    While I understand your concerns it seems to me that when Congress authorizes general action, as it clearly did under W it also authorizes the specific acts encompassed in that general action. In this case actively pursuing enemy belligerents and killing them. It seems to me that an American citizen should not be able to escapenthe consequences of becoming an enemy combatant.

    Now would I be troubled by a three person commission, say the Speaker of the House, the Attorney General and the head of the Joint Chiefs unanimously agreeing in order to add US Citizens to a list of targets? Nope.

  27. 27
    Bones growls and barks:

    Sam, I have held off commenting for a bit while I mulled this over. You are absolutely correct in your assessment (my opinion only). This sets a VERY bad precedent. I’m not worried as much about this being used against my grand-children, but against me in the here and now and my grown children in the next couple of years. An “enemy of the state”, as defined by a government controlled by idealoges (either side) is an entirely too broad of a definition. Did this fuck deserve to die, yep. Try him in absentia and remove his citizenship. There are plenty of precedents of this. The next iteration of this precedent will be the assisnation of an American Citizen who speaks ill of America in a foriegn country (think McKinney, Obowow, Clintons, etc). As much as I despise everyone on that list, before execution, they must be tried. Please be careful what you wish for and celebrate today, because tomorrow those same “tools” can be used against you. I’m sure that almost everyone here is on some “list” of the governments, I know that I am.

  28. 28

    Bones @ #:

    I have to disagree with you there. This is not a criminal issue. It’s not a law enforcement issue. This is war. He has declared it – several times over – on the United States, and he was treated like a warrior on the battlefield.

    I actually wrote about this over the weekend, and I stand by it.

    This was NOT an assassination in any way, shape or form. Assassination is defined as the killing of a (mostly) political leader in a sudden and/or secret attack. An additional definition is “the act of deliberately killing someone, especially a public figure, usually for hire or for political reasons.”

    This was neither one of those. Additionally, the principle of assassination as political activity is also no longer applicable once war begins.

    This does not qualify as an assassination. Al-Awlaki and his minions declared outright war on the United States. He has repeatedly said so, and repeatedly used psych warfare tactics to incite his minions to attack innocent Americans.

    He declared war on us. And it was a dirty war. He was an operational planner for all intents and purposes, and killing him was part of that warfare, and totally legal.

  29. 29
    irish19 growls and barks:

    An “enemy of the state”, as defined by a government controlled by idealoges (either side) is an entirely too broad of a definition

    Exactly!!

  30. 30
    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks:

    #13 LC Xystus

    Samsapeel1:

    But now, once El Presidente has a whim to declare you an “Enemy of the State”, that’s it … SEAL Team 6 doesn’t knock on doors, or serve warrants, or let anyone even see them.

    Neither do we.

    With apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan:
    And that Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
    The Judicial humorist — I’ve got him on the list!
    All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life —
    They’d none of ’em be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed.
    And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
    Such as — What d’ye call him — Thing’em-bob, and likewise — Never-mind,
    And ‘St— ‘st— ‘st— and What’s-his-name, and also You-know-who —
    The task of filling up the blanks I’d rather leave to you.
    But it really doesn’t matter whom you put upon the list,
    For they’d none of ’em be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed!

  31. 31
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Listen, I’m not blind to precedent, nor am I one to shirk from a talk about slippery slopes, but Awlaki wasn’t exactly lurking around back alleys in Seattle handing out fliers saying “Death to the Great Satan.”

    If he’d been hiding out in El Paso then yes, the only appropriate response would be to send in law enforcement, clap his ass in irons and try him for treason.

    But he wasn’t, was he? Is anybody seriously suggesting that the only way to deal with an American citizen who resides abroad in hostile territory, who has openly declared war on our nation, who has openly aided and abetted enemies of our nation in a time of war, is to send in the FBI with a search and arrest warrant and oh, please, don’t forget to read him his Miranda rights before arresting him???

    Really? Because I somehow don’t think that said team of special agents would have survived long enough in al-Qaeda territory waving warrants around to achieve anything but giving the ragheads a good laugh at our expense.

    I suppose it’s a good thing that our bombing raids on Tokyo didn’t accidentally send Tokyo Rose to hell or we would, through that horrid assassination, have set a terrible precedent that would basically have given JFK the go ahead to nuke Las Vegas in order to kick the mob in the shin.

    Listen. If Awlaki had been enjoying a quiet sunset over Puget Sound when he was hit by a bunch of Hellfires, then I would absolutely agree that a line had been crossed but, I’m sorry, that’s not what happened here.

    Is there a slippery slope here? Perhaps, but I’ll wait until a president sanctions a Hellfire raid on a bunch of abortion clinic protesters before I start going crazy over it.

    But that’s just me.