The Devolution of Man

As a general observation on the rampant riots in London described by LCBrendan below:

What we’re seeing is what happens when generations are taught that there is no such thing as personal responsibility, that nothing is required or even expected of anyone, that it’s always “somebody else’s fault” and that the good things in life are entitlements, rather than something that you earn.

It cannot be otherwise. London is the inevitable end result of Progressive Regressive Utopianism.

Ann Coulter nailed it in one in this article:

The Nazi war machine couldn’t break the British, but the modern welfare state has.

And, lest somebody accuse His Imperial Majesty of wanton Brit-Bashing, the modern welfare state will do the exact same to this country. We’re already a ways down the slippery slope that EUnuchistan has been traveling down for decades, we’re just not at the same point as they are.




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    Boryon growls and barks:

    I’m not going to accuse you of Brit bashing. It has been obvious we’ve been heading this way for a while.

    I have been observing a number of bloggers on various coal faces admit to shifting from left to right as a result of having to deal with this sort of thing. Here’s one of them. Winston’s story is one to warm the cockles of the most hardened conservative. He was in the position of the ferals now. He was taking drugs. He was undereducated. He was going nowhere (at best). He turned himself around, got himself educated and became a social worker to try and help people like himself. You can see from the rest of his blog how well that has worked out.

    It is the welfare state (see Winston)
    It is the police becoming politicised (see Inspector Gadget)
    It is the corruption of the education system (see Frank Chalk. I wish Miss Snuffy’s blog were still up to reinforce this point).
    It is the abdication of parenting to “someone” whether by the wussiness of the busy middle classes or the laziness/bad examples of the feral class (sorry, not reading any good blogs about this, although it is a recurring theme in all 3 linked so far).

    I sometimes think that the only role left for Britain in this cycle is to serve an example and warning to others.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Boryon says:

    I’m not going to accuse you of Brit bashing. It has been obvious we’ve been heading this way for a while.

    Thank you.

    If there is one thing I do not want to do, it is to bash the Brits. Without Great Britain, even with the dust-up of 1776, there would be no United States of America. Great Britain has always been a model to me of doing what needs to be done, stiff upper lip and courage in the face of adversity. You need go no further back than 1940 to find an example for all free nations to follow when it comes to stand up for liberty in the face of seemingly impossible odds.

    But that was the Great Britain of old, which is why it pains me so much to watch what’s become of her.

    In days of yore, we would be looking to her for inspiration, for her intransigence against Napoleon and Hitler even when it seemed like the gig was, indeed, up, and now we look to her as a warning of the horrors what we ourselves will be facing if we don’t change course drastically.

    So many times in the past we have come to her aid, and now we’ve mired ourselves in the same mess to the point where we can’t even say for sure that we’ll be able to help. At least not until we’ve cleaned our own mess up.

    But I promise that when we’ve done so, we’ll be there as she has always been there for us.

    I just pray that we do so in time.

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    Draven32 growls and barks:

    The Dolists are revolting! Call the Committee For Public Safety!

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    Boryon growls and barks:


    David Weber fan or is Weber’s PRH closer to revolution time France than I realise?

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    BigDogg growls and barks:

    Boryon says:

    I sometimes think that the only role left for Britain in this cycle is to serve an example and warning to others.

    Sadly, it’s an example that is ignored by or lost upon the vast majority of people. From the evils of socialized medicine and the welfare state, to the Sepaku of “tolerating” muslim invasion and self-balkanization, Great Britain is an open time-travel portal into our own future here in the U.S.

    If only there were more than a handful of us who could see and understand this, we might have a chance at changing our own course. However, I’ve passed pessimism and entered grim fatalism on the issue.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    The government seeking absolute dominion over ones actions, thoughts and beliefs, the populace held hostage by those criminals allowed to abuse them, and protected from reprisal.
    I’d say it’s time to get a new government……but sadly, they have taken all their guns.
    Remember that lesson, America….remember it well……

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    From the begining I have been reluctant to “politicise” the behavior of the looters. I think the source of the behavior lies more with the “gangsta” culture and less with classism. I think the shitheads hide behind the classist excuse and that the majority of the actors are as politically savy as a common. Housefly. I believe this is the biggest common denominator. I can’t deny that the politics of the nation hasn’t contributed to this problem, I just think that politics played a lessor role.

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    Draven32 growls and barks:

    Boryon @ #8:

    Weber fan who can see mirrors of the Dolist state in the current European socialist systems.

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    One of the most shocking revelations resulting from the London riots for me has been the disturbing realization that Russell Brand is actually literate.

    Of course, the article could have been penned by someone else, but whoever wrote his piece is definitely a better writer than Megan McCain!

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    Veeshir growls and barks:

    I’d suggest it’s not really the welfare state, it’s the fact that the police are jokes.

    They tell you not to report certain crimes because they won’t catch them and the cops don’t want to screw up their rate of solving crimes.

    They arrest the lawful for defending themselves. One family had a home invasion where a bunch of thugs, with brass knuckles and other items of mayhem, said they were going to rape the women and burn down the house so the homeowner messed them up with a sword and was arrested for using “disproportionate force”. You see, he needed to fight them hand-to-hand.

    They let real thugs off with nothing. The thugs in that scenario were let off with a warning, the homeowner was in real trouble.

    There’s a neat deal that’s been going on, squatting.

    You leave your house for a vacay, or even just to go to the store, and some squatters move in and you can’t get them out. Like this story, they went away for Christmas and came back and a family had moved in and the owners were SOL.
    Do a search for “britain squatters” and see all the people defending the rights of the squatters.

    When a career criminal commits thuggery, it’s society’s fault.
    When a law-abiding person uses violence to stop said thuggery, that person is bad and wrong and must be punished.

    In such circumstances, it’s actually an intelligent reaction to become a thug. If there are no repercussions for being a thug and there are for being law-abiding, well……..

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    LC hilljohnny growls and barks:

    The Nazi war machine couldn’t break the British, but the modern welfare state has.

    ” We have met the enemy, and they are us” Pogo

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    Boryon growls and barks:

    @LC TerribleTroy re#7:
    I agree, the majority of the looters have little/no political views. It is just an excuse. I have seen it mentioned that the Socialist Worker’s Party was out and about, being a bit more organised than the average rioter.

    The politics, I see as having an underlying role, rather than a direct cause. They sowed the seeds of the wind as opposed to being the whirlwind.

    @Draven32 re#8:
    There’s a thread about exactly that going on over at Baen’s Bar atm (one of Weber’s 2 conferences on there). Have you read Caliphate by Tom Kratman?

    @Veeshir re#10:
    Be careful around those cases. Not all are what they seem on the surface. The mail is particularly bad for exaggerating things to make people’s blood pressure go up. That said, there are some real abuses of society c/o squatting law. There was one case where a guy’s mother had died and left him her house. IIRC before he could put it on the market, a family of squatters moved in. There was considerable outrage about that one yet as usual the politicians did sod all.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Why is it in most of the photos I see the looters are wearing track suits? What? Did Run DMC finally make its way across the pond? The more I look at this thing the more I think it is a absolute LIE to categorize these people as “protester’s”. Lets get something straight, these people WERE NOT PROTESTING A FUCKING THING. These people are just opportunistic copy cats looking for a excuse to cover their socially maladjusted behavior. The underlying cause is their youth induced shallow fucking outlook on life. No More, No Less. Like all youth, they thought they could get away with it. And now the supposed “adults in the room” want to discuss social characterization & justification. BULLSHIT! Why is it that I can come from extreme poverty, induced by my lazy fucking hippie parents and never participated in this kinda bullshit? I’ll tell you why. Its because I looked at where I was and determined that it was fucked up and the reason it was fucked up was because the folks were fucking lazy parasite assholes who refused to take responsibility for themselves, much less anything else. I then determined that if their way got them what we had, there had to be a better way AND I got the fuck away from them as soon as humanly possible. The sad thing is that when this happens here in the states we’re going to see the same lame ass justifications and finger pointing. BULL FUCKING SHIT

    Remember if you don’t like the weather…. MOVE!

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    GamerFromJump growls and barks:

    You’ve read that series, too, Draven32? Note that in the books, it took a combination of getting their asses handed to them (by capitalists!), and internal revolt to reform the system. The question is, will it take something quite that drastic to rid us of our own Dolists?

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    Draven32 growls and barks:

    I read Weber, Kratman, Ringo, Correia… and pretty much any other Baen book that sounds decent.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    More than 20 years ago, the American sociologist Charles Murray wrote a series of articles about the emerging British underclass. He identified in some of our towns and cities the same trend that had been seen in America: a rapid rise in the number of children born into homes with no resident father and where the principal source of income was welfare benefit.
    Murray predicted that this growing phenomenon would be concentrated in certain inner-city communities, creating a value structure largely divorced from mainstream society. Several consequences would follow: the children brought up in these circumstances would be poorly educated and lack the desire and wherewithal to work; and the communities themselves would be prey to high levels of crime.