On the Boehner “Plan”

I’ll keep this short, because there’s really no point in dragging the nonsense out any further.

Boehner’s laughably impotent plan is the best we can hope for right now. No, it’s not the best we could possibly get, but it’s the best we’re going to get with the current passel of dickless, incompetent fuckheads making up the current GOP.

We could get much better if the GOP had spent more time haggling with the opposition than they did between themselves, we could get better if their standard response to Il Douche’s threats was to demand his alleged “plan” as a counter-proposal rather than immediately offering something watered down every time he said “no.”

It’s really pretty fucking basic, you know, which is possibly why the Gentry Wing of the GOP don’t get it. You make an offer, and then you wait for a counteroffer. You do NOT respond to a “no, I don’t like that” by immediately backing down in hopes that the next offer will be accepted. You don’t say a fucking thing until an actual, bona fide, written down counteroffer is on the table. THEN you respond.

But that would require the current GOP to have, among themselves, what amounts to the brains and haggling skills that G-d gave 3 year olds and we just don’t have that right now.

2012, we’ll throw some more GOP bums out and we’ll be closer to where we need to be and Weepy Boner needs to be one of the spineless fucks who is primaried into fucking oblivion.

But, for now, we can do with this. It’s all we’re going to get. If we push harder, “steely and flinty” Boner is just going to cave some more and we’ll soon find ourselves wishing that Reid’s proposal was still on the table.

I will say one thing, though: If we ever consider selling Vicky, we want Boner as a prospective buyer. He’ll be paying $40,000 for her before we’re done and we’ll have the Weakly Standard and the Rick Moran wing of the GOP proclaiming it an outstanding, historic victory.

Then we’ll go buy ourselves a whole fucking fleet of the vehicles.

And don’t give us the “if we don’t raise the debt ceiling, we won’t be able to keep our AAA rating” either.

Sure, defaulting would be a Bad Thing™ for our credit rating, but we won’t have to default on a single loan if we don’t raise the credit limit. The amount of money we need to make our minimum payment on our credit card is a fraction of what we take in every single month. Sure, we may have to give up on such vital spending as cowboy poetry festivals, teaching shrimp how to run on treadmills and we may have to force the BATF to start providing Mexican drug cartels with automatic weapons for free, but somehow I’m sure we’ll survive that.

We’ll only default if resident Golfsalot decides that we should default. Right after he gets done starving grandma to death, as he’s already threatened to do if he doesn’t get his way.

But the real kicker is this: If you really fucking think, even for a fleeting moment, that us raising the debt limit without serious spending cuts (as in: Not Weepy Boner’s laughable penny-ante “savings”) is going to instill confidence in world financial markets, then you obviously haven’t got enough cerebral capacity to figure out how to boil an egg.

You think that telling the world that “hey, we’ll just increase our credit line and keep on spending money we haven’t got indefinitely like there’s no tomorrow” is going to make them more confident that whatever we borrow will be paid back?

Are you frackin’ RETARDED or something?

You try that line with your own bank and tell me what happens to your credit score, provided they don’t just have security throw you out.

Thatisall.

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LC Jackboot IC/A
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Sire- Go to bed or fuckin’ call me….. :em07:

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Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan

I’m ashamed to say that I got caught up in the initial hoopla…… I thought, and said for ONCE Weepy and the GOP was doing something right and standing up for principal. I should have known, once more information came out, well I can’t say I was surprised, but I am disappointed. It’s almost like watching my 4 year old daughter ignore my instructions…….. I know she is 4 and testing my authority, but I’m still disappointed when I must raise my voice and correct her.

LC 0311 Sir Crunchie I.M.H., K.o.E.
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Like I said the other night Boss, this deal may suck huge pachyderm cock, but at least the debate is happening. A year ago there would have been no debate, the debt limit would have been raised to whatever Ogabe needed to keep Michelle Antoinette in cake, and our great-grandkid’s would be serfs in the New Zimbabwe. Now, thanks to the Tea Party freshman Republicans, the blank check was taken away. Not much I know, but sometimes you just have to look for the clean section of bread in the shit sandwich. One more round of establishment RINO purging and… Read more »

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Sure, defaulting would be a Bad Thing™ for our credit rating, but we won’t have to default on a single loan if we don’t raise the credit limit. Who gives two shits about credit rating except the Chinese? If America’s rating goes down all it means is that the Federal government will joining the majority of Americans who’ve watched their credit ratings swirl down the shitter because these fuckheads can’t stop spending. America needs a cleansing of its soul and when it finally comes it will be ugly, brutal and bloody. I keep getting reminded of the ending scene from… Read more »

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
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BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)

The system is broken, but nobody can allow themselves to believe it. We have a tyrant in the WH, and a rubber-stamp congress. Sure, they go through some Kabuki theater as they’re reaching for the rubber stamp, but the end result is the same. Wake the fuck up, people …

Samsapeel1
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The system is broken, but nobody can allow themselves to believe it. Oh, I believe, BigDogg. I believe. I’m a born pessimist, so take what I say with that grain of salt; but, I don’t think this country has a prayer ….(well, maybe a sliver of a strand of a slim prayer in the 2012 elections — but, as per my prior definition of myself, I’m not optimistic). Personally, I think small (and large) communities needed to be preparing for a total breakdown of social order, anarchy, looting, murder, rapine, and famine …. like, yesterday. That is to say, a… Read more »

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LC Gladiator
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Democrats are irresponsible socialists and communists obsessed with redistributing America to death to “fundamentally transform” it. Democrats are the party of [1] freedom without responsibility, [2] wealth without work, and [3] representation without taxation, all three of which Democrats have used to try to kill/transform America for a century. Republicans are the firewall. Democrats don’t want limits on how much they can tax and borrow on the backs of responsible Americans to redistribute to Democrat supporters. The cut, cap & balance bill and the bill mandating spending priorities on Obama (debt service, defense, social security, etc.) are all that Republicans… Read more »

Terrapod
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Best that can happen now is that the House bill does not get voted on and is permanently pulled. That forces the Senate to produce the non-existent Reid bill and vote on it. My take is they will be too scared to do that and will vote present, forcing the treasury and Obungles to have to actually cut bureaucracy on Aug. 2nd to have cash to service the debt, SS/mediscare and the Military. All the rest is non-essential. Fuck the NSDWP/Dems, they painted themselves into this corner of hell, let them figure that out.

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I can dealwith the Democrats acting like assholes about this. My kids carry on the same way when I refuse to buy them a toy when we go to the local Wally World. What twists me up is the bullshit from that asshole, Juan McCain yesterday. On the one hand, I’m glad that he let his arrogance and condescension come through. It should be obvious that he’s more concerned about re-election than he is about doing what is right. (But I’m sure his braindead daughter was as proud of his mavericky defense of the status quo as the New York… Read more »

irish19
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Terrapod,
Interesting take on it. I thought Dingy Harry actually had a bill since the CBO scored it. I like the way you think though.
Samsapeel1,
I hope you’re wrong. But I’m keeping my powder dry and my eyes open for an affordable wood stove. Stocking up on food that keeps-and ammo.

Samsapeel1
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Samsapeel1

Irish19, I’m doing the same; but I was thinking more along the lines of something to prepare along with neighbors & other local people. I can’t vouch for the following because it comes from Wikipedia, but: When good men do nothing The statement that “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” is often attributed to Edmund Burke. Burke never said this but, in 1770, he wrote in Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents that “when bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one,… Read more »

LC HJ Caveman82952
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I’m a hard core prepper….guns, grub and gold….well, no gold. ‘Nuff said.

Samsapeel1
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Samsapeel1

Well, you can’t eat gold.

All those folks who believe that gold has “intrinsic” value could potentially be in for a rude awakening. As for me, I’m of the opinion that toilet paper could become more valuable than gold. I was going to stockpile coffee too, but I drank most of it.

irish19
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I was going to stockpile coffee too, but I drank most of it.

I can identify with that. The point about tp is very well taken.

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
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BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)

Plenty of tp around … it’s green and white and has pictures of dead presidents on it.

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