Breaking News: Attack in Norway

Twin attacks: Gunman opens fire on youth camp, car bomb explodes at PM’s office.

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    Sir Fresh Sign growls and barks:

    Breaking?

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    Mike M growls and barks:

    Barack doesn’t want us to lose sight of what’s really important here. He offered US assistance because…

    …he remembered how warmly Norwegians treated him in Oslo when he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.

    Not like those nasty Brits who tortured his grandpappy.

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    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    Damn those pesky Mennonites… :em08:

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    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    Oh, and please pray for the dead, and comfort for the living.

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    kwongdzu growls and barks:

    They are saying he is an ethnic Norwegian and a right-wing Christian extremist. How long before the nut jobs come out of the woodwork screaming about the Tea Party?

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Many facts are still unknown, but at this point it appears that a key ingredient in the tragedy was the fact that the killer had the only gun on the island.

    – Andrew Bolt.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    A perfect example of gun control at work. When you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns.

    I learned at a very young age that the only solution to an animal that has rabies is a .30 .30 Winchester. There are a lot of two legged animals in this world with rabies.

    exit question…how many of my people (yes I’m Norwegian) would have been saved if one, just one person had a handgun, shotgun, hunting rifle or one of those “evil” assault rifles close by?

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    FabioC. growls and barks:

    exit question…how many of my people (yes I’m Norwegian) would have been saved if one, just one person had a handgun, shotgun, hunting rifle or one of those “evil” assault rifles close by?

    We cannot say, but it’s hard to imagine it would go worse that it did.

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    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    let me get this straight. hundreds of incidents of Islamic violence, and not a peep. -One- frigging white crazy person, and it’s a frigging travel advisory? We’re going to get mauled in the press for this, you watch.

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    @ kwongdzu:

    They are saying he is an ethnic Norwegian and a right-wing Christian extremist. How long before the nut jobs come out of the woodwork screaming about the Tea Party?

    Guess who’s the first?

    like American Christians he doesn’t like the integration of his white race with other races. He bullshit at the Muslims so he decided to kill 91 blue-eyed pale skin liberals!

    how many more innocent people have to suffer because these assholes are continuing Hitler’s policy of a white Aryan race only for planet earth?

    Ninety-one people dead so far all because some pasty white right wing radical is mad at the Muslims for getting their “chocolate in my peanut butter”

    :em02:

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    media hits a trifecta, blames right wingers,Christians and “gun lovers”, while endorsing muslim multiculturalism.

    The Norwegian police on Saturday charged a man they identified as a right-wing fundamentalist Christian in connection with a bombing in central Oslo and a shooting attack on a nearby island that killed at least 92 people. Officials said the death toll could climb as they continued to search for the missing.

    As stunned Norwegians grappled with the deadliest attack in the country since World War II, a portrait began to emerge of the main suspect in the case as a gun-loving Norwegian obsessed with what he saw as the threat of multiculturalism and Muslim immigration.

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    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Something smells like spoiled lutefisk. How did this lone gunman manage to place his car bomb by the PM’s office and them manage to make it to the island in time to do his shooting at about the same time. How did one lone individual manage to shook so many? How did he acquire his police uniform? To me this smells of a falsee-flag operation. But to suggest there couold be more than a single gunman, is the enter the world of darkest tinhat conspiracy theory.
    BTW – As Misha should be able to confirm, Conservative in Europe, particularly in Northwestern Europe, is something entirely different from conservative in the United States. Stay tuned and suspend judgment but look verrry attentively behind the curtain.

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    MarineVet1995 growls and barks:

    @ LC Light29ID:
    Just wondering… is hard to find, how did he get taken down in the end?

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    MarineVet1995 growls and barks:

    @ LC Roguetek:
    RAAAAAAAACIIIII!SSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! You bad person, those Religion of Piss followers of the Pedophile Prophet, (may he feel Satans barbed Cock in his Ass Every hour of eternity) are only reacting to the (insert bullshit here) of the evil White Republicans. Or Tea Partiers. Or the Non-celebrity rich. Or… well you get the idea. Fuck, I’m already blamed for every other evil of mankind as a white Christian straight, married, (22 years n counting) male, why not find a way to blame me for this as well?

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    And do you think that had someone been armed in that camp it would have stopped this crazy person from killing people?

    Why not? Over a million crimes a year are stopped in America because a citizen is armed and capable of defending against a criminal.

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    Muzzy growls and barks:

    LC Roguetek says:

    let me get this straight. hundreds of incidents of Islamic violence, and not a peep. -One- frigging white crazy person, and it’s a frigging travel advisory? We’re going to get mauled in the press for this, you watch.

    Not a peep? Are you kidding? Do me a favor, do a Lexis-Nexis search on the phrase “Islamic Terrorism” and/or “Muslim Extremists”. You’ll get so many hits that the total figure would have to be displayed in hexadecimal just to keep it from spilling off the page. The media has never been has never been silent on the subject of Islamic terrorism.

    LC Gladiator says:

    media hits a trifecta, blames right wingers,Christians and “gun lovers”, while endorsing muslim multiculturalism.

    Don’t be an idiot. Nothing in that quote constitutes an “endorsement” of anything. Furthermore, if the perpetrator was indeed a right-wing Christian fundamentalist, why on earth wouldn’t the media mention it? If he’d been a muslim, you’d have demanded the media mention it at every available opportunity and you’d have kicked up an almighty stink if they hadn’t. I guess the media is in the same position it’s always in at times like this, damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

    Oh, and just because they’ve identified the culprit in this case as a right wing Christian doesn’t mean that they’re blaming all right wing Christians everywhere. Jeez, no wonder you have such a massive media persecution complex, if this is how you read the news.

    MarineVet1995 says:

    @ LC Roguetek:
    RAAAAAAAACIIIII!SSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! You bad person, those Religion of Piss followers of the Pedophile Prophet, (may he feel Satans barbed Cock in his Ass Every hour of eternity) are only reacting to the (insert bullshit here) of the evil White Republicans. Or Tea Partiers. Or the Non-celebrity rich. Or… well you get the idea. Fuck, I’m already blamed for every other evil of mankind as a white Christian straight, married, (22 years n counting) male, why not find a way to blame me for this as well?

    Oh, shut up. God, you Tea-Partiers don’t half love feeling sorry for yourselves. Chill out. Nobody is blaming you for anything. The only “person” getting blamed is the evil piece of shit responsible. Speaking of which, I really fucking hope they kill that motherfucker.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Keep your powder and opinions dry a while longer, now rumors are circulating that a muzzy group is claiming responsibility. Also it was the NYT that is reporting the Right Wing Loony angle – let’s wait a bit more for facts but our prayers and hearts go out to all the families of the innocent slaughtered by these loons. And yes, no one on the island was armed, not even a groundskeeper? You reap what you sow there, clear as day.

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    Muzzy growls and barks:

    Misha wrote:

    I’m perfectly willing to go out on a limb here and make a postulate of my own: The number would have been smaller if somebody had been able to shoot back.

    Ordinarily, I’d agree with you. However, in this instance, the killer was dressed as a policeman. He may have done this on purpose in order to claim more victims if there had been a gun owning good Samaritan on the island. I mean, if you were a frightened teenager and you didn’t know what was happening, and you saw two armed men, each claiming the other was a killer, and one of them was dressed as a cop, which would you be most likely to run towards?

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    @ LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E.:

    You’re right, Rurik, this does smell quite a bit.

    I’m not saying that it would be impossible for one person to pull off, but I am saying that such an individual would have to be quite talented and creative. We’ll just have to wait for further evidence on that bit.

    As to the perp himself, I’ve perused some writings ascribed to him here (it’s Google-translated, so expect some mumbo-jumbo, but I was able to fill in the holes pretty well with my background and all).

    Is he “right-wing?” Based on what I read, he certainly seems to hold your standard European right-wing views and he is most definitely no friend of Marxism in any of its incarnations. He even seems aware of the fact that “right-wing” is an utterly incorrect way to describe Nazism, so he has apparently read a history book or two. Very much anti-multi-culti too.

    Christian? Mheh. I wouldn’t call him that based on what I read, nor would I call him “non-Christian.” There just aren’t any declarative statements in support of Christianity, nor any quoting of Scripture etc. What I suspect he is is “Christian” in the European sense, meaning “not non-Christian”. You see, in most European countries Christianity is the state religion which, in a practical sense, means that you’re automatically one at birth unless your parents opt out or you opt out later on, which hardly anybody does since it’s not worth the bother.

    What baffles me, though, is that I didn’t see anything truly extreme in his alleged writings (but, again, I didn’t go through every single text there, so maybe it’s further on down. Nobody’s paying me to do this, so I’ll let the paid experts do the footwork).

    No outcries about “race treason”, no evocation of the need for the people to rise up in revolution to undo the shackles of tyranny, no calls for blood in the streets, just a whole lot of talk about how to get the message out to more people through message boards, flyers, periodicals and such.

    In short: A whole lot of talk but really no appreciable hints of action, which I would expect from somebody planning to commit mass murder in the advance of some “cause.”

    I know. Still waters and all that, and I’m not saying that he couldn’t have been hiding his real intentions real well, it certainly appears that he did now, it’s just not at all what I would expect. Or, to put it another way: Had I been going through his writings prior to today, I can’t honestly say that I would have flagged them as more than loads of rhetoric. Sure, you have to miss every once in a while, it’s just a bit mysterious, to say the least. It seems to me that something or somebody else must have “helped things along.” Not that it absolves him of even one iota of responsibility for his heinous deeds, that should go without saying, but it does suggest that we don’t know the whole story yet.

    UPDATE: It appears that the swine put out a video and manifesto that does indeed contain all of the crap you’d expect from a psycho mass murderer.

    Of course, this doesn’t in the least bit change what I said above, since that is the first sign that he’d gone off the deep end, published the day before he went on his mass murdering killing spree.

    Something pushed him over the edge, and I’d be very much interested in finding out what that was.

    Once we know, slip a noose around his neck and give that vile sack of filth a short drop to Hell.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    The media has never been has never been silent on the subject of Islamic terrorism.

    :em05:

    The media dares not utter the words Muslim or Islam when referring to terrorism or criminal acts. They prefer to use words like “youths” or “Asian youths” instead.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    I was absolutely horrified reading of this disaster…all those kids……a paradise suddenly turned into hell. I do wish an armed man could have taken him out. As Muzzy says, though, who would you run towards? Perhaps two cops…but even then, and your life depends on the answer, unless the threat was immediately neutralized. At which point, being a scared shitless kid, I would have been gone real fast.
    So no one armed?
    I would be willing to bet that policy will change in the future……
    But as with Misha…I believe the toll would have been less, especially the perp knowing he was being hunted.
    I have not yet read of any assignment of blame yet here in Kalifornia. The lefty blogs a different story. I pay them little, if any mind.
    I do find the timing interesting, though, some claiming a false flag event. I do not know, but am investigating. A whole lot of circumstance simply does not add up or make any sense at this point. Perhaps in time. I do not trust the media to any great extent. I will wait.
    I just hope Norway can get past it OK, I remember Oklahoma City vividly….and 911 goes without saying. Add one more nation to a long, long list, England, America, Australia, Israel………
    Oslo has just been changed forever…….and I feel for them……..

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    The camp I went to as a child had a rifle range that we went to daily. it was often staffed by Marine Vets of Iwo Jima. Perhaps things will change at this camp and self defense will become a subject of study. And why did it take two hours for the police to respond?

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Misha Grozny:

    I’m perfectly willing to go out on a limb here and make a postulate of my own: The number would have been smaller if somebody had been able to shoot back.

    Just what most of us reasonable people were thinking.

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    84 dead??? from one guy??? jeeezus, how much ammo was he packing? and what did the people on that island do? I mean, I’m no hero or anything but there were 600 people on that island and they couldn’t overwhelm him? LIke I said, I’m no hero but there HAD to be some things on that island that would make effective weapons….throw rocks, throw tools, throw cans of food, do SOMETHING.

    or are all the people over there just reflexively trained to curl into assballs and go submissive…….

    I gotta wonder at this, one guy and he’s able to kill 84 people in an hour and a half. Compare that with the Giffords shooting over here, when there were enough people around familiar enough with firearms who knew that the time to take down the shooter was when he stopped to reload.

    My prayers go out to the Norwegians, and I pray that they still have some Viking blood in them and that it hasn’t all been replaced with the blood of sheep.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Muzzy says:

    I mean, if you were a frightened teenager and you didn’t know what was happening, and you saw two armed men, each claiming the other was a killer, and one of them was dressed as a cop, which would you be most likely to run towards?

    Come on now, Muzzy, now you’re pleading special cases and you know it. Of course, given the hypothetical that you’re describing with a kid seeing two armed individuals, one in uniform, and assuming that the kid has watched neither fire a shot before, of course the kid would run to the uniformed individual.

    That apart, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

    But if we have to plead like that, just how would the kid running to the uniformed individual change the dynamic? At best, it might distract the “cop” enough that the other guy could put a few in his center mass.

    Unless our shooter here is one uncannily professional bastard with an eye unlike any pros I’ve ever had the pleasure to serve with, it’s a given that somebody would survive some of his salvos and the word would be out like a wildfire among the survivors: “There’s a guy dressed like a cop shooting at us!” and somebody, had that somebody been armed, would have a good chance, being forewarned being the secret to success in all such encounters, to put a round in the noggin of Mr. Psycho.

    Instead we have eyewitness accounts of kids running scared through the woods, not knowing where the hell to run to while the perp was walking around, cool as a cucumber, shooting ducks in a pond.

    There’s another thing for you: If the perp knows that some of his victims may be armed, remember that we’re talking 600 of them here, you can be damned sure that he won’t be strolling around casually, shooting at everything that moves with not a care in the world. But he knew, thanks to the weapons laws of Norway, that the chances of anybody packing would be somewhere between “slim” and “none.”

    Normally, whether you’re insane or not, you have to deal with the old OODA loop. Problem was, in this case, the killer didn’t have to worry about it at all as it had been rendered irrelevant.

    You just cannot argue, intelligently, that the presence of or even the possibility of the presence of firearms among the victims wouldn’t have changed the outcome at all.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Lets make the counter argument. Would this motherfucker attacked this youth group IF he knew that there were citizens running around with LAWFULLY owned weapons? Somehow I doubt it.

    DJ, Muzzy and all the rest of the GFWs can screech to the heavens but the fact remains that a person trained with a weapon is not a victim but a deterrent.

    Again I repeat what I said previously:

    exit question…how many of my people (yes I’m Norwegian) would have been saved if one, just one person had a handgun, shotgun, hunting rifle or one of those “evil” assault rifles close by?

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    KayInMaine says: July 23, 2011 at 8:18 PM All right wingers worship Adolf Hitler (who use religion to brainwash a nation just like George Bush did!) and want a authoritarian dictatorship. Republicans hate the human race pretty much and like all conservatives they’re selective in who they want around. Teabaggers arent inclusive, rather, they’re exclusive. Seriously, I hate them more than Adolf Hitler!!! In fact, all conservatives are despicable human beings! *SPIT!*

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    That crazy bitch isn’t worth hating. Just another tolerant, loving, kind, humanistic lefty……. :em05:

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    LC Darth Scoundrel growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID says:

    exit question…how many of my people (yes I’m Norwegian) would have been saved if one, just one person had a handgun, shotgun, hunting rifle or one of those “evil” assault rifles close by?

    I’m thinking of a number between one and 80…

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    And do you think that had someone been armed in that camp it would have stopped this crazy person from killing people?

    YES

    Port Arthur
    Dunblane
    VT
    Hoddle Street
    Strathfield massacre
    Colombine

    All mass shootings in a gun free zone.

    If he was that honked off, why not assault a police station, or an army base….oh that’s right, they’d be armed and able to shoot back.

    Gun free zone =human target range.

    How many fucking times does it have to happen before the penny finally drops and some poor fucker stands up and screams “my wife is dead because you fuckers wont let me have a gun”

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    I would be willing to bet that policy will change in the future…

    I bet it will change, all right…MORE gun control.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    BTW a few questions: how did he get the police uniform and badge? The police issue weapon?

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    The weapon I can’t speak to (except that they were incredibly easy to get a hold of where I come from, extremely tough gun control laws notwithstanding, as long as you had enough dough), but unless things over there are much different from what they used to be, a police uniform good enough to pass inspection by the casual observer wouldn’t be too hard to get from a costume shop.

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    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    Norway doesn’t usually have a problem with armed marauders storming their youth camps or igniting five tons of fertilizer in government buildings.

    It isn’t a “usual” happening here, either.

    It was a youth camp, fer cryin’ out loud.

    And before the GFWs got their panties in a twist, the Boy Scouts had merit badges for marksmanship. I don’t know if that badge is still available, but we used to have guns available in our youth camps, and I don’t recall any stories of a boy scout going crazy and gunning down his fellow scouts.

    And do you think that had someone been armed in that camp it would have stopped this crazy person from killing people?

    Well, DJ, he probably wouldn’t have been able to kill as many. It was an armed civilian that stopped the religion of piss follower from killing a bunch of people (I believe that was at a synagogue.) There are many documented instances of armed civilians preventing a goblin from killing other folks. You just won’t hear those stories on the Lame Stream Media.

    No more than the actions of Muslim extremists reflect badly on mainstream Muslims.

    Sorry, DJ, but I have to call BULLSHIT on that statement. There is a big difference. Extremists who call themselves “Christian” are condemned by Christians. The Phelps family, for example. The splodeydopes are hailed as heros by many, if not most Muslims. Check some polls. I believe that in one poll, 65% of muslims approved of suicide bombing in the name of jihad. Yes, some few Muslims condem the hirabists, but they don’t seem to be very loud in their condemnation.

    He

    needs to be put down. Period.

    I agree 100%. It doesn’t matter if he did it for Mohammed, Jesus, or The Great Pumpkin, he needs to die.

    I’m just not seeing how ANY of this scenario was going to be prevented with or without gun laws.

    Wow! Two in a row! You’re on a roll tonight! But you know the gun grabbers like upChuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, et al, will still call for more gun laws. The two assholes at Columbine broke 32 state and federal firearms and explosive laws, but when it was all over, the above mentioned called for more gun laws.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    We could spend hours and days going back and for about the IFs and the MAYBEs, but at the end of the day we still only have the one set of facts before us — a lot of innocent people were killed.

    Yep. Without a means or a chance to resist.

    And that’s the saddest part of all.

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    If they are that easy to get a hold of, then it would stand to reason that in most populated areas there would have been at least one other person who might have been armed, right?

    “Easy to get a hold of” meaning in this case those who are willing to go into hostile areas to do their firearms shopping out of the boot of a vehicle at 0145 hrs.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    His Contrariness the ITW asserted:

    A LOT of people who are trained with a weapon end up being victims themselves. I would venture to say that a lot of them get this false sense of security thinking that just because they are armed, nothing can happen to them.

    Is this drawn from personal experience? A perp may have the initial advantage of surprise, but unless he’s set on suicide I suspect he wouldn’t choose a bunch of experienced heat-packers to shoot. Of course you can still neutralize a single shooter by using a knife or club with speed & stealth–& sometimes without the stealth. Still dunno what the ¢0¢$µ¢%€® had for weaponry or how often he had to reload…

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    LC Old Dog growls and barks:

    I am totally speechless! I just saw on foxnews dot com that this lowlife scumsucking piece of shit is facing (are you ready for a coronary): wait for it…….

    Up to 21 YEARS IN JAIL!

    Send this cocksucker to Texas where they know how to deal with his kind! :em08:

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    A LOT of people who are trained with a weapon end up being victims themselves.

    How many victims in a LOT?

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    Muzzy growls and barks:

    Misha wrote:

    But if we have to plead like that, just how would the kid running to the uniformed individual change the dynamic? At best, it might distract the “cop” enough that the other guy could put a few in his center mass.

    Unless our shooter here is one uncannily professional bastard with an eye unlike any pros I’ve ever had the pleasure to serve with, it’s a given that somebody would survive some of his salvos and the word would be out like a wildfire among the survivors: “There’s a guy dressed like a cop shooting at us!” and somebody, had that somebody been armed, would have a good chance, being forewarned being the secret to success in all such encounters, to put a round in the noggin of Mr. Psycho.

    Yeah. On second thoughts you’re probably right.

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    simonwise growls and barks:

    The suspect charged with carrying out a massacre at a youth camp in Norway and a bombing in the capital, Oslo, says he acted alone, according to police. Anders Behring Breivik, 32, admitted to carrying out both attacks, which he described as “gruesome but necessary”.

    At least 93 people were killed in the attacks – 96 have been injured and some are still missing.

    In Norway, where liberal values prevail, the MAXIMUM penalty for murder is 21 years in jail. However, most people serve a maximum of only 14 years.

    Most murderers get out at weekends after 7 years, unsupervised.

    So, assuming the alleged murderer is convicted, he will get a maximum of 3 months per life so cruelly taken.

    Anders Behring Breivik will be out of prison when he is around 50 years old.

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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    That’s one thing I like about small towns…had so many of our young been massacred as has happened, we would remember…..the relatives, friends, townspeople….we would all remember….
    Gunsights are timeless, and we would know when he got out…….the rack of a slide…….the sound of a cylinder closed…….the click of a bolt sent home…….
    Some of the most horrible accidents happen with farm equipment……..
    And nobody would have any idea……………

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    Now that’s some crazy shit about the laws re murder. Hopefully they will be wise enough to hold him for being batshit crazy for the rest of his life, seeing as they wont do the right thing and execute his ass.

    Im curious as to how many were on the island at the time of the attack. Im also curious as to the apparent lack (at least unreported as of yet) of self defense. Did anyone there present the “fight” response? Im just having a hard time understanding that considering the numbers involved and the length of time of the shooting, why there was no organized resistance. Please dont get me wrong Im not in any way blaming the victims. Just curious.It could be social conditioning, lack of exposure to these types of incidents, etc. etc.

    Not too long ago (maybe a couple of years) a crazy tried to shoot up a church here in the US. A armed plain clothes female security office successfully intervened and terminated the assailant.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    @ simonwise:

    Anders Behring Breivik will be out of prison when he is around 50 years old.

    And I’m sure some the next-of-kin will be waiting, say about a 1000 meters away with a .300 WinMag (yes I’m prejudice, this is by far the best mass produced hunting/sniper rifle ever).

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    LC Light29ID says:

    And I’m sure some the next-of-kin will be waiting, say about a 1000 meters away with a .300 WinMag (yes I’m prejudice, this is by far the best mass produced hunting/sniper rifle ever).

    I wouldn’t even have to think twice about it considering the current penalties. Im surprised the murder rate isnt high as the penalties offer very little deterrent value.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    @ LC TerribleTroy:

    I’m sure there are thos that believe as I believe…you take my children then you forfeit your life, even it means forfeiting mine.

    One Shot, One Kill, No Regrets, I Decide

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    I read some reports of people hiding and texting…..that was their first reaction, to text their friends and family.One girl hid at the base of a rock that the killer was standing on, close enough so she could hear his breathing, and she texted her family with the killer in arms reach.

    Not that she could have done much granted that, but jeeezus….some psycho “Right wing Christian” (thanks media for THAT bit of info, you could have just called him a militant like you do the muslims) stalks around shooting people and all they can think of doing is to text.

    1 in 6 people on that island was killed, by one guy…….the hirabis have nothing to fear from the eunuchs in Scandinavia.

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    LC Old Dog growls and barks:

    Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:

    1 in 6 people on that island was killed, by one guy…….the hirabis have nothing to fear from the eunuchs in Scandinavia.

    I read a quite scathing comment at another site!

    “The Scandinavians once had some of the toughest minded Warriors in Europe. They are still easy to find today, just check the US Immigration records. Oh by the way, concentrate on the Southern and Southwestern states!”

    The Proggies wish to make it unacceptable living conditions for anyone save like minds!

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Deej,
    Gun
    Fearing
    Wussy
    Now ya know. :em01:

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    LC Old Dog says:

    “The Scandinavians once had some of the toughest minded Warriors in Europe. They are still easy to find today, just check the US Immigration records. Oh by the way, concentrate on the Southern and Southwestern states!”

    Oh yeah, I grew up in a community with a lot of Scandinavians in it. Their ancestors conquered and settled and civilized most of Europe. Look at what the Finns did to the Soviets in WW2. They have a rich legacy, and I’m sure that somewhere down deep that legacy still has roots. We just need to devalue and discredit the politically correct philosophy that is the mandate now.

  53. 53
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Isn’t one person as a victim one too many?

    I’ve heard that one before. It’s a long standing argument used in favor of gun control and gun bans.

  54. 54
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Anders Behring Breivik was reportedly a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi internet forum.

    “He created a profile in 2009, with a pseudonym that can be traced back to his email address,” Mikael Ekman, a researcher with the Stockholm-based Expo foundation, told AFP on Saturday.

    Nordisk, a web forum founded in 2007, describes itself as a portal on the theme of “the Nordic identity, culture and traditions”.

    It hosts discussions on “everything from white power music to political strategies to crush democracy”, Ekman wrote in an article published on the Expo magazine’s website.

    Among those discussions were how to blow up a building.

    Link here.

  55. 55
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Jaybear

    Oh yeah, I grew up in a community with a lot of Scandinavians in it. Their ancestors conquered and settled and civilized terrorized most of Europe.

    Fixed it for ya!

    Look at what the Finns did to the Soviets in WW2.

    In the Winter War, yes. Then the seasons advanced, & Steely Joe’s legions stated winning. Lousy deal.

  56. 56
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    @ LC LOBO:

    Now that’s interesting, LOBO, and somewhat embarrassing too as I had initially thought that there was bad blood between him and the Nazis. Reading through the link I provided earlier I can see that I wasn’t paying as much attention as I was. He wasn’t expressing disdain with his observation that the Nazis were not purely right wing (actually, he got that half wrong. They weren’t right wing at all), he was merely making an observation.

    I also should have made a note of his use of the word “kulturkamp” (Kulturkampf in German) which, though not exclusive to them, was a particularly beloved buzzword to them.

    See, that’s what you get from just skimming through material. My bad.

    So it would appear that he is most definitely not “right wing”, at least if he really is a Nazi, which would also rule out his being a “fundamentalist Christian”.

    Not that it matters in the great scheme of things, he’s still a disgusting piece of shit who should be strangled to death very slowly.

  57. 57

    LC Xystus says:

    Oh yeah, I grew up in a community with a lot of Scandinavians in it. Their ancestors conquered and settled terrorized and civilized terrorized most of Europe.

    Fixed it for ya!

    OH yeah, they massacred the monks at LIndisfarne and did all kinds of horrid things. But, as time went on, they started to settle the lands they conquered….many converting to Christianity and they made Britain what it is today….credit to the Normans too…..and the Celts.

    LC Xystus says:

    Look at what the Finns did to the Soviets in WW2.
    In the Winter War, yes. Then the seasons advanced, & Steely Joe’s legions stated winning. Lousy deal.

    terrible deal, they were pretty much left on their own. But they inflicted huge casualties on the Soviets before their numbers prevailed as the seasons changed.

  58. 58
    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Had a long talk with a friend near Frankfurt yesterday on the event in Norway, he is as Capitalist and tolerant as they come, but even he is saying that Germany’s Nationalist sentiments are growing as a pushback to the flood of muzzy immigrants to the point where many there are asking why is it not we (the natives of Germany) that should come first in our policy making and jobs instead of all the immigrants who will not assimilate? Good question. The trend is building across Europe. Ask the Italians how they feel about their flood of Libyans and the French about their waves of N. Africans? I think the fuse is lit and the Eurocrats are dithering. Recall also that about 2 weeks ago one newspaper quoted a senior police officer in Norway stating that 100% of the rapes comitted last year were the work of muslim “youts”. For that to appear in print is truly astounding and another sure sign things are fermenting.

  59. 59
    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    @ LCBrendan:
    Brendan, you couldn’t be more right. However, someone has already stood up and “shouted” this to the rooftops, unfortunately, with little effect: http://youtu.be/bLRr02YrW6o Still, it’s worth remembering and maybe bookmarking to share with the self-defense doubters. And so it’s abundantly clear, all things of this f’er’s ilk need to be disposed of and any group that fosters their nut-case evil should be targeted as the enemies of all humanity that they are. Radical muslims are just a particularly visible and currently problematic example. Nazis, neo or otherwise, are merely another example, just as rabid wolves and rabid coyotes both need to be put down.

  60. 60
    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    @ Emperor Misha I:
    I think Your Rottieness and I and perhaps even DeeJ would agree–wherever there is a herd of sheep, there should be at least a couple of sheepdogs. There are too many wolves, jackals, coyotes and poachers in the world to be so irresponsible as our gummint handlers are, thinking they can post signs and thereby evade all responsibility for actually protecting those in their charge. I’d wager there will be some heads rolling and maybe some supuku (sp?) in Norway over this, as frankly there should be. Oh, and as to having a defensive tool at hand, if it’s my responsibility (as it is every time I go out with my family) to keep someone safe, there’s a .45 on my person and the eyes in the front and back of my head are fully open. Who would do less for their loved ones, even for their neighbors?

  61. 61
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Did we miss the part where this was a friggin’ youth camp, not a military base?

    Actually, it’s more of an indoctrination camp featuring good ol’ fashioned Jew hatred.

    These kids were victimized twice.

  62. 62
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    I knew that someone would get around to blaming the camp itself because they were Socialists.

    It’s called stating a fact not assigning blame. Squarehead Von Aryan or whatever the bastards name might be is the only guilty party. I figured you would jump out the window and start honking in self-righteous indignation.

    You don’t think it is possible to disapprove of Israel’s actions and not hate Jews? Or Israel for that matter?

    Not particularly since the grievances against the Israelis are complete bullshit and blood libel.

    Because I don’t approve of what they are doing and I actually fought for them.

    You don’t approve of surviving in the face of bloodthirsty genocidal savages yet you fought for them?

    Split personality syndrome or just plain old liberal cognitive dissonance?

  63. 63
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    DJ,

    I can’t remember who did the study but there was one done on violent felons. They were asked if they would break into a home where the owner had a handgun. The vast majority responded yes because they knew that the odds were good that owner a) wasn’t trained or b) if there were kids in the house the gun would be locked up. Then they were asked would they break in if they knew the owner had a shotgun in the house and, again the response was overwhelming, but this time the answer was no. The reason being that if a person had a shotgun then he/she was probably trained and possibly a hunter.

    Deterrence in it’s basic form and it works.

  64. 64
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    I’m catching things like this,

    “Breivik attacked the ideological offspring of the Labor Party. But, if Breivik hated Muslims, why did he not attack Muslims, instead? Why mow down nearly a hundred liberal-left Christian children?

    Ok, I know that liberal and left automatically rule out being Christian. Yet I keep hearing this from everywhere. Why does a nazi, kill commies instead of those whom he professes to hate ? Why docilely go with the cops ? Why does this smell more rotten than the fish in Denmark? And why is it that now the police are saying that he “more than likely” had help?
    Now he is saying that there are two more in his cell, (note this comes before the cops say he had help) ready to attack. This ain’t no OKC, this ain’t no Timmy McV. And this sure as hell ain’t no conservative Christian.

  65. 65
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    And that being Conservative and Right automatically makes you a fundamentalist religious whack job?

    It does according to your party, the DHS, and damn near every “news” outlet.

  66. 66
    ZeektheCruel growls and barks:

    @ LC LOBO:

    So, are you suggesting this is a Marinus van der Lubbe/Reichstag Fire kind of incident? Do you think the “help” was from similar political travelers or from the opposition playing him for a rube?

  67. 67
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    @ ZeektheCruel:I’m not suggesting anything. He is the one claiming that he had help, and that he has more people in his “cell”, that points to a lager “network”.

    Anders Behring Breivik has confessed to both assaults but denied criminal responsibility for them and pleaded not guilty at his first hearing. He told the court he wanted to save Europe from Muslim immigration and warned that there are two other cells of his terror network.

    Link here.

  68. 68
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    It does according to your party, the DHS, and damn near every “news” outlet.

    Annnnnnnnnnnd… THERE OFF!!!

  69. 69
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    @ LC Gunsniper:
    Fuck man, that is some weapons grade stooooopid. Thanks for the headache…..

  70. 70
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Oh, horse pussy.

    That too.

  71. 71
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Into the first turn with Slate nosing ahead…

  72. 72
    ZeektheCruel growls and barks:

    @ LC LOBO:
    LC LOBO says:

    I’m not suggesting anything. He is the one claiming that he had help, and that he has more people in his “cell”, that points to a lager “network”.

    Mmmm…lager…… :em05:

    Anyway, I think this guy is a loon. We’ll have to wait and see if the investigation finds anything. Maybe he had help and maybe he’s blowing smoke. And if he had help, it will be interesting to see who it is.

    Honestly, I’m surprised more of this kind of shit hasn’t started up already. There’s no law in the universe that says terrorism is not a two way street. I still think this guy is an asshole, but the world is full of assholes.

  73. 73
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    I’ll be honest, I really don’t give a shit about a nazi killing commies. What bothers me is that the left wing scum that passes as news, keeps pounding the “fact” that this was a Christian and Conservative. He is no more Christian, Conservative than I am mooslim.