There Are Lies, Damnable Lies and Statistics

Ed Morrissey makes the case that it’s perfectly understandable for the GOP to give the NSDWP everything they want because otherwise, a poll indicates, the GOP might annoy some people.

Because, you know, forget about right or wrong. Polls Are G-d™! And who really gives a fuck if Mitch McCockless’ proposal for the GOP to vote “present” on the debt ceiling hike means that generations of Americans will live in a nation that even our parents wouldn’t recognize as long as the Make Believe Media, just dying for an opportunity to heap praise on the GOP might decide to do what they’ve never, ever done before, which is to heap praise on the GOP.

The polls don’t lie!

It’s all about crawling around on your bellies hoping for the cool kids in the Make Believe Media to start liking you, which they surely will if you just fluff their fuck-tackle enough.

Thanks, Ed. You’re a fucking spineless, principle-less worm too.

Here’s a hint: No, Eddie, the NSDWP won’t use Vaseline if you pander to them enough.

On the other hand, if you’re merely making the observation that maybe McCockless has a reason to be a spineless, principle-less worm, then just what the fuck are you trying to say?

That it’s OK?

Tell that to your grandkids when they’re living in Stalinist concrete apartment complexes, sweeping streets with a broom for a living and hoping that maybe, just maybe, OgabeCare will deem them worthy of treatment should they get an illness.

We’re sure they’ll understand how this is all secondary to the vital, overriding principle of doing well in polls.

Heaven forbid that you should ever do the right thing simply because it was the right thing to do.

Think about the children!


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    LC HJ Caveman82952 growls and barks:

    Polls, huh?
    Gallup had bambi behind a generic republican by eight points, his popularity dropping.
    Got some news for you, Mr. President, and I do use the term loosely…..
    Highly entertaining is the notion to bail out monied interests you will have to sell out the public. For this is what you have told us, of course not mentioning your buddies in GE and such.
    But it is we having to face austerity?
    I don’t think so, Mr. President….I don’t think so……….
    Please pay the bondholders and stiff our military, our elderly, our sick….those that serve and have paid, go for it, Mr. President, after all, you are the all wise and mighty..
    Or you can slash spending…I have some suggestions, for starters TSA, EPA, bambi care, Depts of energy and education, NEA. PBS…it’s a long, long list, Mr. President……..
    And donate your birthday take, the one you have the day ofter we default……..I’m sure you’ll have enough money.
    For you see, Mr. President, I and others such as I would prefer a default, a crash if encessary, rather than the slavery to those you deign fit to receive my money.
    How does it feel, Mr. President? You throw tantrums, so common on the left, yet it is you, not your opposition dropping in the polls.
    How tight does your tie feel now?……and the clock is ticking……for even your supporters will know an uncomfortable fact, it was you that chopped them off at the ankles to pay the banksters and politicians……..after all, you are the president. You know, the guys that caused this problem, then took advantage of this debacle.
    Go talk to Barney Frank and Chris Dodd……
    Go talk to the federal reserve……
    Go talk to Fannie and Freddie…..
    Go talk to these fucking banks you bailed out, they turning around and paying themselves huge bonuses, the loans to the public be damned.
    And you’ve got the balls to claim your opposition is the party of the rich?
    A double edged sword, Mr. President…
    And how much did GE pay in federal income taxes last year, Mr. President?
    I paid six thousand…..
    How much????????????????/
    Go talk to your lefty sponges, those electing you with welfare dollars soon to be chopped…you know, those throwaways you only coddle when you need votes. You know, the folks not worried about filling their gas tank or paying their mortgage. It’s easy when you no longer own a house and your car is repoed.
    You can blame your opposition, but you are the one running for re-election….the American public notoriously impatient. Two out of three senators running for re-election are democrats, and Congress is so very popular right now. Both houses of congress, does the word impeachment mean anything to you? Do the words high crimes and treason mean anything to you? They might one day……And let the left scream and break things……I could care less now.
    All in the name of austerity….
    Ours, not yours, no doubt……;l
    And you can’t cut the federal budget and spending?
    Where is the example, Mr. President?
    And as for you high financial buddies, and congress people…..
    It’s funny how I see little rope or pitchforks remaining at Home Depot……
    Gun shops doing quite well too, despite your best efforts to defraud the public with gun confiscation. Gun control is when I put mine in a safe or fire them at the range, not when someone takes them against my will.
    Fourteen million legally sold last year. This not counting the thousands you sold to cartels, resulting in the deaths of innocent Mexican nationals, Border Patrol agents, police officers and Americans…..
    It’s devil and deep blue sea time……..and I am so enjoying this…….
    So keep those polls coming…and throw some more petulant fits, .you are dropping like a rock…….but please take the rest of the left with you……

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    ‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’


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    LC Big Evil growls and barks:



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    Odahi growls and barks:

    The more things change, the more they remain the same. A friend pointed me to this story, you’d think it would have been written at the height of the mortgage fiasco, not last WEEK.

    My wife said, “Haven’t they learned anything? Don’t they know this won’t work?” Hell, there is nothing for them to learn! To learn something from the crash, it would have to be something they didn’t want to happen. It was the fucking PLAN all along. This is just a continuation of it.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    President Obama is demanding a big long-term budget deal. He won’t sign anything less, he warns, asking, “If not now, when?” How about last December, when he ignored his own debt commission’s recommendations? How about February, when he presented a budget that increases debt by $10 trillion over the next decade? How about April, when he sought a debt-ceiling increase with zero debt reduction attached? All of a sudden he’s a born-again budget balancer prepared to bravely take on his own party by making deep cuts in entitlements. Really? Name one. He’s been saying forever that he’s prepared to discuss,

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    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    Ah, … Allahputz and Morrischmuck strike again, eh?

    More damaging to conservatism and the conservative movement (if you wish to call it that) than the entire lineup of MSNBC could ever dream of being. Why read what they think?

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    ‘This may bring my presidency down but I
    will not yield’: Obama walks out of debt
    talks warning GOP ‘don’t call my bluff’

    Barack Obama is said to have come to blows with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor on the fifth straight day of debt talks. The ‘tough’ and ‘testy’ meeting got ugly quickly, according to sources who said Mr Cantor clashed with the President after repeatedly pushing for a short-term resolution to the crisis. According to Mr Cantor the President said: ‘Eric, don’t call my bluff,’ before adding: ‘Would Ronald Reagan be sitting here? I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this. ‘This process is confirming what the American people think is the

    Thank you Eric Cantor, for showing us how to stand firm.

    PS: A politically connected friend of mine suggested that instead of sending a ‘thank you’ letter to a politician I admire (like Cantor), that I should send a $5 or $10 contribution.
    “Don’t take away my credit card, or else…”

    The Community-Organizer-in-Chief is driven to drag us deeper into debt.

    Raising taxes prolonged the Great Depression. Both Hoover and Roosevelt raised taxes. Taking money out of the private sector retards job creation. Obama and the Democrats are just plain killing jobs.

    Obama is PO’d because his golf time is being curtailed by real work. The Communicator in Chief is used to a 5 hour work week and any more than that makes him real testy.

    What does that remark mean, “Don’t call my bluff”? To me, it means he’s probably bluffing.

    The more we see of this kind of thing, the more it looks as though The Minus One’s vaunted poker prowess was another fabricated aspect of his “compelling narrative.”

    If I hear one more comparison between the great Ronald Reagan and this armpit in an Armani, I will puke where I stand.

    Seems Obama is getting all wee-wee’ed up!

    “This may bring my presidency down”

    : )))))

    Congress, call his bluff.

    Your Nation needs you to stand up to the socialist and take him down, so Sarah can clean up the mess in 2013.

    Great pics. Bambi’s weeweed and gop looking aces in the hole relaxed. Don’t back down, Cantor. I’m going to do as a previous poster suggested and send EC $10 just to up the donor count.

    No “may” about it Mr. Child-in-Chief. You are a total failure and it’s all over but the cries of “racism.” The 2008 great American social experiment is ending just as it began. A White House (I’ll bet it kills him to call it that) full of radical, idealistic amateurs has produced the expected results.

    He is so ruffled lately that he has forgotten to apply the hair dye.

    The GOP has the American people in their corner. Obama doesn’t. The people who aren’t paying attention to this don’t matter.

    When my teenagers acted like that I took away their car keys.

    WE CAN ONLY PRAY HE BRINGS DOWN HIS OWN PRESIDENCY!!! (I think it’s more likely America either fully collapses or we break out in Civil War again!)

    Talking heads are saying Obama’s $86M war chest (thus far) is NOT (like the $600-$800M he gathered last time; so much for ‘campaign reform,’ eh?) from BIG or OVERSEAS donors, but is “on avg $60 per” from “little folks.” When someone at his recent press conference said “aren’t the 68% of Americans who don’t want the debt ceiling raised ‘left out of the [negotiating]room’?” Obama responded about ‘professional politicians’ knowing more/better…(the narcissistic Dismissal). He later said ‘the folks’ want pols to get back to enacting ‘more programs’… REEEALLY?!

    He still thinks like a community organizer (street thug, ‘us’ vs ‘them,’ arrested development adolescent who was never confronted or challenged); he’s in waaaay over his head as President. A disaster for America as a whole!!!!!!!!!! But he’s slick, Self-Esteem on steroids, and championed by media/96% of blacks and too many self-loathing, suicidal whites not to mention aided by anti-Americans (be they foreign or domestic self-interesteds). ‘Troops’ like ACORN are still getting funding; socialist/communists WANT DISSOLUTION. It’s happening…and won’t be stopped without Divine Intervention (please God). In the meanwhile, Repubs…KEEP UP THE PRESSURE/RESISTANCE, HE MAY BE CRACKING!

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    FabioC. growls and barks:

    I have some news to bring to your attention, and sorry if this is off-topic.

    Minnesota Shutdown

    It doesn’t look good, does it?

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    MrSpkr growls and barks:

    Misha, for years I’ve been a voice of moderation in reacting to the G.O.P.’s failures on this site, often arguing that the alternative was much worse; thus, I argued, we needed to hold our collective noses and support the Republican candidate.

    No more.

    If McConnell’s plan passes, then I’m done with the party that can’t shoot straight.



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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Barky has soiled his diaper at the mere thought of someone telling him, “NO.”

    Now he’s going to hold his breath and stamp his feet and threaten senior citizens and veterans if he doesn’t get his way.

    This idiot Communist needs to be removed from office ASAP. He’s the most corrupt, openly anti-American piece of excrement ever to occupy our beloved White House.

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    LC Gladiator growls and barks:
    July 14, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    ‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’


    Meet where?

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    About an hour or so ago, O’Dickhead preempted programming to get his message out but …

    We care for an aging parent (100+) at home and I got an earful re: how O’Bumblefuck displaced her gameshow with a whiney speech – probably a bunch of soap operas also. Most other presidents would have taken their problems to the people during evening PRIME TIME.

    To me, this says volumes re: who O’LimpDick’s supporters are – the game show and soap opera crowd.

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    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Voters say 67 – 25 percent that an agreement to raise the debt ceiling should include tax hikes for the wealthy and corporations, not just spending cuts;

    Look at this. 67% of the country has apparently succumbed to the class warfare hallmark of the left. They want punitive taxes for the ‘rich’.

    This is what we get for our side being the ‘nice’ guys and not challenging the class warfare card EVERY FUCKING time some socialists shit-stain plays it. I am sooo sick of hearing ‘millionaires and billionaires’ used like it’s a vicious pejorative. Does that include the numerous wealthy pols like Stretch Pelousy, Kerry et al ?

    fuck ’em, HARD and DEEP without mercy.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    This o-loser is such a constant liar. This goes on day after day after day. I can’t stand to look at him and his lying eyes. He is in this for himself……power….. to destroy this country. Also, so mooooch-elle can continue her extravagant travels. o-loser is in this only to destroy the United States of America. His father hated this country and as they say……the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. He is a very deceiving person. He smiles and pats people on the back for the cameras to record. But behind closed doors………! How he handled the health care bill should tell it all. The dems locked out the Republicans. Then held that farce of a health care meeting, admonished the Republicans, said he was the p-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t ( “I won”)……said the Republicans had no ideas…..when everyone could plainly see the Republicans had all kinds of ideas with all the paper work at the table. o-loser had no intent of listening to them. Just like the debt limit meetings. He should have had this done months ago. Boehner tried and tried to get him to work on the debt ceiling back in January, but to no avail. Then o-loser says his daughters don’t wait to the last minute to do their homework. He talks out of both sides of his lying mouth.

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    The Gallup Poll
    85 % Democrat

    10% Independent

    5% Republican

    You can get any result you want when you target the right people. Right Gallup??

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Lately, every second dispatch out of Washington D.C. has involved the debt ceiling. For anyone who’s been living under a Martian rock for the past two months, the federal government reached the statutory limit of what it’s able to borrow back in mid-May. In other words, without running up further debt, it can’t pay its bills. But the law prohibits the issuance of any more funny paper. Impasse.

    Obama wants some form of tax increases to make the cuts more palatable. Both sides throw out words like “non-negotiable.”

    But do you see the more interesting question here? If not, go back to that first paragraph and reread it. See it now?

    Right. The debt limit was reached on May 15. So how come the defaults didn’t begin immediately? Who’s been paying the bills in the meantime?

    Did you guess that, some way or other, we have? You’re pretty much correct. If you were reading the newspaper back in May, you might have seen a small reference to a statement from Treasury Secretary Geithner to the effect that he could delay the day of reckoning until August. You probably didn’t see any specifics, but some kind of accounting gimmick was involved, you were led to believe. No biggie. Don’t worry.

    In fact, what happened was that Geithner declared a “debt issuance suspension period” (DISP), to be in effect from May 16 to August 2. No new debt would be issued. Ok, that sounds good. But what about the aforementioned bills that would come due in the interim?

    Well, as Geithner explained in a letter to congressional leaders, during this period the Treasury “will suspend additional investments of amounts credited to, and redeem a portion of the investments held by, the CSRDF, as authorized by law.” And he went on to say the same regarding the “Government Securities Investment Fund [‘G Fund’] of the Federal Employees’ Retirement System.”

    The CSRDF is the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund. The G Fund is part of the Thrift Savings Plan. Though there are some differences in employer vs. employee contributions, both are basically pension plans for civil service employees. And both have basically been looted.

    At the end of last year, the CSRDF held over $775 billion in assets. The Office of Personnel Management estimated at that time that the total would swell to $806B by the end of this year. They may have a tough time getting there. Note the $22B drop in May – that’s the DISP at work. And it’s gotten worse since. According to the just-released Monthly Statement of the Public Debt, as of the end of June, the Fund had plunged to $680B. More DISP.

    The situation over at the Thrift Savings Fund? Check this out: Around $130B in assets at the end of April shrank to less than $75B by May 31. And it gets worse – the June report shows a meager $27B left in there.

    So, prohibited from issuing debt, the government raided – excuse me, borrowed from –people’s retirement funds instead. And they took a lot. More than $180 billion. Of course, in Secretary Geithner’s encouraging words: “Each of these actions has been taken in the past by my predecessors during previous debt limit impasses. By law, the CSRDF and G Funds will be made whole once the debt limit is increased.”

    Are 401-Ks next?If civil service pension funds can be molested, what about IRAs? Some have suggested that the government is already eyeing our private retirement accounts, to see what might be gotten out of them. Washington created them; it can change the rules any time it wants… to require, say, that a certain portion – or all – be invested in government paper. What a windfall that would be.

    In the end, “debt issuance suspension,” a term no one will ever remember, could turn out to be the wellspring from which all manner of mischief flows.

    h/t Casey Report

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    Virago growls and barks:

    Talk about DAMN LIES-
    This morning Ogamo said 80% of Americans favor higher taxes….. (On Drudge).
    Either this man lives on another planet or is delusional.
    I will grant that 80% of the people who do want higher taxes, want it from OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.

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    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    KKKayinsane screams she got some 5th rate tabloid to announce that Palin faked the Trig pregnancy! :em05:

    the blog I did recently about Sarah Palin and her shoulder pads opened the National Examiner’s eyes up.

    Bristol Palin is the one who gave birth to Trig at Auntie & Uncle’s house in Wasilla. She had a home birth there (and spent almost all of that school year out of school with “mono”)

    Sarah got a call from Bristol’s mid-wife in Wasilla telling her that she had better get back to Wasilla because Bristol’s water broke and she’s in labor!

    she was able to suck that baby in for the first 7 months of the pregnancy, because no one in the governor’s office or the Alaskan media knew she was pregnant until she announced! Once she announced…all of a sudden she has a belly and very wide shoulder pads!

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    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Speaking of polls – here’s the one Cave was talking about.

    Other side of that one – while the ‘Generic Republican’ is stomping Teh Won by 8 points…

    …Mittens only has him by 3.

    Romney doing worse aainst Obama than another Repub – who doesn’t-even-exist.

    And who do we think the Party of Stupid is going to run?

    – MD

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    ‘Reckon the reasons many tyrants get as far as they do is because they have some capable operators supporting them.
    Imagine if more of the world’s despots found out too late that they had guys like this on their staff; Two Libyan Pilots that, when ordered to attack Libyans, forfeited their ‘everything’ and diverted to Malta.
    Heroes are where ya find them.
    Malta just got the net-worth of it’s air force doubled.
    Mirage’s ain’t cheap, even the old ones..

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    LC Gladiator growls and barks:

    Since 100% of taxes are paid by ‘wealthier’ Americans, just how much does OBAMMY consider will be “FAIR”???

    50+% of Americans pay NO income tax…(wouldnt it be more “fair” if they paid SOMETHING?? Like 3% maybe??)

    ADD IN THE ILLEGALS – as they draw benefits from those taxes.

    Now, how many are not paying any income taxes?

    Don’t start telling me ILLEGALS pay taxes, either!
    Cuz that is just BS!Sure, some do, but,according to the LA Times – a VERY LIBERAL paper –40% of ALL MONEY changing hands in LA is UNDER THE TABLE!

    Thanks! Illegal aliens!

    Now, what obama NEEDS to do, is define WHAT EXACTLY he will consider a FAIR amount for them to pay? ?

    Just HOW MUCH they have to pay to make him happy?

    Then, ask him to explain and define EXACTLY WHY THAT NUMBER IS “FAIR”.Exactly HOW he came about THAT EXACT NUMBER?

    Who is HE to define what is “FAIR”

    Poverty is a GOVT DEFINITION based on a PERCENTAGE of everyone’s income, AVERAGED.
    So, there will ALWAYS be poverty.

    GROW the taxpayer base – that will create the “revenues” he wants.TAXING more will NOT grow the revenue base.


    Explain to us, Mr. President, just HOW does taxing people MORE,CREATE JOBS??? (maybe it lets you hire more govt employees?) Of course, that’s racing toward full blown COMMUNISM, not just socialism. The same socialism which obama CLEARLY seems to embrace.

    Ob said in early 2009 – to the republicans- “get in the back of the bus”…remember?


    Repeal obamacare, dissolve the Environmental Protection Agency, Dept of Education, Dept of Energy, ALL government employee’s get the same as the taxpayer at large… SSI, medicaid, medicare, follow/punished by the same laws.CUT taxes for all, go to a FLAT is that for starters????